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VOD is abusing trust system repeatedly, but nobody punishes him. Theymos already posted about his behavior

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5142064.msg51007199#msg51007199

Now he is doing the same thing. He gave a neg trust to peloso for giving a merin to OG.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=81995 (Follow the reference left by VOD to his neg trust)

Also he gave a counter positive trust to dragonvslinux only because OG left him a neg one.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1170966 (This one does not have even a ref...)

This dude was accused of many other wrong doings that are out of this forum (We all know what I am talking about)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241511.msg54512310#msg54512310

I am not defending peloso or someone else here, I'm just talking about VOD's ridiculous behavior.

Giving a red trust for a merit. Leaving a counter positive feedback without knowing the subject. Just because someone "not your friend" left him a well deserved neg. 
 I do not think that people like him must be on DT list.

Well then, you don't really have much of a say in that... ::)

https://i.imgflip.com/j2209.jpg

WOW.. a new fart from another OG's hater.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=313016

No hate, and don't even care about the phony negs, smart people know better than to believe his lies. :D

This is about you whining about Vod, remember? ::)

...and OG sent retaliatory negative to dragonvlinux (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg54063055#msg54063055) and I don't see you creating topic about OG's actions.
Well, I don't agree with tagging users because they sent merit because of political reasons/trolling/whatever.
This has been discussed many times, stop beating dead horse.
Rippoff is scam, you can report anyone for anything and fake everything, they won't remove report unless you pay them to do so, that's what I've heard.

Vod is troll. Just look at his avatar. Any questions?

Maybe Vod is an trolling alt of forum staff?

Yeah. Are you really Albert Einstein? ::)

This just tells me that this feud between Vod and OgNasty is causing both of them to make poor judgements with respect to their use of the trust system, though I haven't been observing the feud and the resulting actions with a microscope, and I don't know which one is making the most bad decisions. 

As I've said a few times before, I'm not a fan of leaving counter feedbacks in general.  In this case, it looks like the counter was left by Vod simply because he doesn't trust OgNasty--with no regard as to whether the neg was valid or not.  That's not good.

I don't either.  That's a really bad reason to tag someone.

People change over time, and I think Vod might have let his hatred (for lack of a better word) of OgNasty cloud his judgement, and Vod had also done some odd things with another member he was feuding with (can't remember the user's name), stuff that I wouldn't have thought he would do.  But I've got mixed feelings about removing him from the DT list.  He's left far more valid feedbacks than bad ones over a very long time period, and I think that has to be taken into account.

I do think this is a valid discussion, however. 

I'm shocked you would believe an anonymous coward so quickly.   You can talk to dragonvslinux, who knows why I left the feedback.

The feud between me and Mr. OG is no different than the feud between Elliott Ness and Al Capone.   If I wasn't calling for justice, that sociopath would have no issues with me.  I have all I need from him and I have no need to deal with him further, other than deal with these trolls., which I also want to ignore.   So please don't believe trolls who hint they can read the minds of other people.

When I leave DT, it will be by my choosing.  No one cares about an opinion if the person giving it doesn't care about it either.

Phony negs?  Look at the reps you've left me.  You're a jealous little hater that was wrong and got caught trying to extort someone into proving NastyFans received a donation of stolen funds (spoiler alert: we didn't).  So you've lashed out like a child with lies for years to cover the fact you're a pathetic wannabe criminal who got caught with a bad extortion attempt and joined forces with the other disgraced failed extortionists here to takeover the trust network and try to bury my ratings to cover your misdeeds.  It's so easy to spot the pieces of shit here.  They stick up for the behavior of people like Vod, who are 100% very clearly in the wrong and harass those who do good things like build community organizations, donate to causes, and protect funds for users here. 

owlcatz is probably in my top 3 list for worthless trolls of bitcointalk.  Vod, TMAN, owlcatz...  These are people the community would literally be much better off without their existence.  The last 6 months without TMAN has been such a wonderful step in the right direction for this forum.  I can't wait until life catches up with Vod as well.  I'm sure at some point in time these trolling buffoons will realize they are only attacking allies of the Bitcoin community with their trolling of me, and that their time would better be used literally doing anything then trying to waste the time of others who actually have the capability of innovating and advancing Bitcoin adoption cases.

Listen, I'm not getting into this bullshit with you anymore, I've told you that already. This isn't about you, I know you love to think so, but sorry. ::)

Edit - Last I checked, I left you one neg that is all true. None of that shit you made up is real, my trust even shows better than yours on this forum FFS.

You are now on perma ignore even tho I love to laugh at your fucked up narcissistic & delusional posts. :D

Claiming you've left me one negative rating now?  I can easily prove you're lying about this with screenshots...  My favorite was the rating you left me where you said I was trying to scam an old lady on eBay by selling a coin I engraved a private key on.  Talk about delusions, that feedback actually made me think you're a drug addict as it went far beyond just being an idiot.

Your trust shows better than mine on this forum?  Man are you delusional...  My default trust score 574.  Your default trust score 411.  If you lie about easily found facts like this, what won't you lie about?  This is just another example of you being too stupid to even state an easily found fact, yet you want people to trust your ratings about serious business accusations?

Let's dive into this bullshit claim you just made about your trust feedback being true.  


Runs the longest running ponzi scheme in Bitcoin history.
This is a lie.  First of all, I don't run NastyFans, nonnakip does.  I only donate money to it regularly.
Secondly, NastyFans isn't a ponzi at all.  No new investor funds are needed to pay out existing members.  Our mining operation and sales of my goods are what provides a vast majority of donations.  There is absolutely no truth to any part of this claim and it's all very provable with the blockchain.


Sent users scammed by "others" on HIS escrow thread after ME on Telegram with ZERO evidence.
I don't use telegram.  I don't interact with users on telegram.  When I heard someone tried to use my username to scam on telegram I sent all the information I had to telegram and asked that they work with the police to catch the person involved.  You then started saying I was trying to report you to the police, so maybe you shouldn't have taken that comment personally?
(edit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3157259.0 - link to my thread about the situation since owlcatz locked his when he realized his slip up)


Has been directly accused by many forum members of "extortion" over negative feedback.
You trolls have accused me of lots of things I haven't done.  This comment seems extra foolish though.  I'm actually currently being harassed by Vod because I refused to allow him to extort me into modifying my trust settings and trolled by you owlcatz for bringing your role in zeroxal's extortion attempt to light.  You're literally taking a page from Vod's book and leaving me negative trust ratings for YOUR misdeeds.


Behaves in a manner consistent of a malignant narcissist
Huh?  My actions are pretty selfless when it comes to this community.  I don't think I'm being a narcissist by refuting claims with truth.  For example, I have donated a shitload of funds to many Bitcoin organizations.  When people like you try to minimize these contributions or make false claims about me, it is perfectly acceptable for me to state the facts of my contributions in order to refute your false claims.


cannot be trusted over 1 oz of gold being sold, but instead blames others.
Huh?  I sold so much gold recently that more orders came through than I could fill.  This was a result of nonnakip traveling internationally and not being able to immediately remove the listing from his shop.  Even with that, and a user leaving no contact information, their full BTC payments were refunded (at a higher exchange rate) and they were sent FREE PRECIOUS METAL COINS for the mishap, even though they used this 22 hour period where the refund was being made (due to the international flight nonnakip was taking) to try and cause as much trouble as possible for me, who I will add doesn't run the shop or handle any of the BTC sent there.  Did they mention these free gifts publicly anywhere?  Do you think I got a thank you for assisting them or sending them free coins?  I'm still amazed how far above and beyond I went to help with this situation, only to be criticized for helping resolve this issue in less than 24 hours!


Constantly deletes his own posts and backtracks/edits them to fit his false narrative(s).
The only narrative I'm interested in is the truth.  Considering all you do is tell lies about me, I can see how you find this frustrating.


Paraphrasing, owlcatz doesn't belong anywhere near DT either.  We need to stop accepting this type of behavior into positions of trust within this community if we want to reverse the dying relevance of this community.

(edited to add link and clean up some formatting)

Neither Vod or Owl are suitable for DT.
One was implicated in an extortion scam and is close friends with 2 proven scammers.
Vod has abused the trust system in multiple ways.
Abusing the trust system intentionally is facilitating scammers.

1. Vod admitted to being too afraid to tag or even exclude lauda because they may ruin his own account
2. Vod engages in undeniable misuse of red tagging
3. Vod opposes flags on iron clad evidence of scamming by his pal lauda

Of course this brain damaged broke down bum must be removed.

OWL is even more dangerous. 
Fortunately the dox is available on both. Vod doesn't hide. Owl was revealed by cody.

DT1 is fucked. The entire system needs changing.
You simply can not have mentally deranged brain damaged broke bums with no backbone, nor friends of scammers that are up for a bit of extortion in positions of trust.

Did OG really claim the forum would be better off without me?

I think the sociopath meant HE would be 2,600 BTC better off without me.    I agree.  ;D

Hey LoyceV, where is "Is Vod on DT yet?" script?

You can't leave DT :P You can request to be blacklisted from DT1, but your DT2 status is up to DT1 members. Marlboroza tried (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.0) and failed considering his current DT2 strength (25) (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=marlboroza).

Marlboroza is too nice.  I can make DT1 members hate me.  :)

Hmm, now it's clear what kind of patron you've found for yourself)

https://i.imgur.com/HESYpWE.png

OP, you are either happy with OG's approval you got from creating the thread, or, frankly, puzzled that you might have to get people to talk about it. Because adequate people try not to repeat the obvious, so as not to waste their time and energy on what they will not remember tomorrow.

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But seriously, are you not tired of measuring members yet?
In any case, it looks like "Vod Licks breasts since the opening of the forum, when you probably didn't even know what a personal computer was".

P.S. Over-enthusiastic people on this forum are often so desperate for attention that they forget to consider whether their contributions are so valuable.

Well, I checked dragonvslinux's feedback, and the only reason you gave for the positive was that OgNasty's feedback cannot inherently be trusted, because it's OgNasty.  Dragonvslinux has plenty of other negative feedbacks on his profile, many less recent than OgNasty's that you didn't see fit to counter.  That's just how it looks to me.

OK, I hope that's the case.  I'm not against you being on it, never have been.  That's not to say your feedbacks shouldn't be open to scrutiny and discussion, which is exactly what this thread is about.  Same would go for me or anyone else in DT.

Man, I just want you to present the evidence you have to whomever you're going to present it to and be done with it.  The back-and-forth bickering between you and OgNasty accomplishes nothing.

Man, I totally agree with you.

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Vod and OG / Have you ever heard of SWOT Analysis? You'll be able to swot anything, a concept, an initiative, or even a person!  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/HJmlufY.png

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SPOILER ALERT: This story contains plot points from the latest episode of Silicon Valley.

That's the whole thing...  I did nothing wrong, so he can't possibly have any evidence of wrongdoing.  The fact you believe it is even possible he has some sort of evidence is what he wants, and that's why he continues his childish trolling of me with lies instead of being a man and admitting his mistake.

Presented my evidence a hundred times already... I'm working on the proof now.

Simply put:  OG ran a Ponzi separate from Pirate.  He planned in advance to scam everyone.  When pirate folded, OG made off with 2,600 BTC.  OG's ponzi was not bankrupt  - it had enough to pay all investors 100%

Pirate =/= OGNasty!

OG will not answer what he did to the 2,600 - his responses have been the same  - I can't name a victim (lie), Everyone got what were owed (lie) and I was stroking out (lie).   If he was honest, why the deflection?

My delay in posting the proof is because I'm building my own site, and I don't feel like urgently catering to people who so easily fall for multi million dollar scams, and don't have basic logic skills.

There is no feud - I have done nothing wrong.  OG hates me because I've sent him to prison, period.

Og's neg trust is the only DT neg trust rating on dragonvslinux: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1170966;dt

It was posted in retaliation for dragonvslinux expressing his opinion in the Vod/Og dispute: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg54063055#msg54063055

Imagine if Og dug up some old untrusted rating in your trust history and re-posted it with DT visibility just because you said something he doesn't like. How would that look to you? Except that he's too chickenshit to do that to you or to me or to anyone he perceives as not weak enough for him to trample on.

BTW this is not an isolated incident either, he has a habit of abusing red trust to fight personal disputes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1668017;dt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=479624;dt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=313016;dt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=138940;dt

There's probably more that I'm forgetting now, just browse his sent trust history and look for anything that sounds like a whining thin-skinned narcissist that he is.

Lol why would anyone be scared of you or hahaha thepharmacist?
Please stop making up silly stories suchmoron

This thread is about vod being removed from DT.
Why are you attempting to bring in off topic irrelevant incidents?
Or because you feel there is a connection is this allowed? Lol

Vod is a trust abuser and I listed several other independently verifiable events that automatically should preclude him from DT.

This other off topic attack on OG via dragon is the sort of thing you claim is trolling when others do it.

Also it seems you are now making up shit as you go along claiming OG would be scared of you or thepharmacist.
That is too funny. Who could be scared of thepharmacist haha the very notion is completely ludicrous.
I mean it is conceivable that in your case 200kg of lard could be scary. I'm into bbw though so I'm fearless where you're concerned.

Most of DT1 should be removed. Vod too but he is not the worst.

Which DT1 here doesn't use red tags to punish people for daring to mention inconvenient events from their past. Or just saying anything they dont approve of. Or just for fun.
This comes from suchmoon who opposes flags on proven scammers and has those scammers for ages on his trust includes.
The reader should note suchmoon is full of shit and double standards.

He's deleted a LOT of information from this forum - that's typical of people who have been honest, right?   ::)

This thread can be locked - the only people wanting me removed are scammers with a lot of negs.   

Are you referring to nutildah?

Can you post some proof that the only ones wanting you removed are scammers?
Sounds like a lie.

I want you removed. Please present the evidence of me scamming.
I can present the evidence of your 2 pals lauda and tman scamming

I mean you do understand the definition of scamming is lying or deceiving for financial gain right?

Okay present your conclusive proof. I'll wait. Or maybe you are just telling lies.

Make lots of money - buy this forum - remove me.  :)

I don't think many people care what you write - but by all means, continue to push your scam agenda.

Suchmoon can’t keep me out of her mouth. She can’t stay away. Stating her incorrect opinions about my motives as if they’re facts to further her irrational agenda. Talk about another idiot that shouldn’t be anywhere near DT... They’re all gathering in this thread to defend their little trust abusing self admitted pedophile buddy. What a great bunch of forum users we have here...

Vod started a thread asking for criticism (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277553.new#new), so I gave him a little of that but a higher dose of praise--and he deleted my post.

For the record:

Vod, I know you're probably on blood thinners since you had your stroke, but they shouldn't be thinning your skin.

Since 1983 actually.  :)   I had a defective valve and was replaced at that time.  It was supposed to last 7 years, but it's now 37.  Wasn't having my blood monitored closely enough so I had the stroke.

I just want that thread to be one people can point to, to summarize my illegal activities, without all the posts from people I've caught scamming. 

Bayarea has already made a new tread, and of course you copy your words here, so I'm not really trying to stop anyone from speaking their mind.   I just want one thread free of trolls - I already had to delete OG troll posts consisting of nothing else other than "you are a liar".   I'm sure I'm not the only once sick of accusations with no evidence. 

Suchmoon always protecting Vod. Why suchmmon still not tagged?

So if you were on DT, you would tag people for not jumping on the bandwagon?

Once I got on DT, I have never been removed.   Can anyone else say that?  :)

That was probably a cruel jab and I apologize, but I was irritated that you deleted my post--nothing to do with having my post count deleted, just that I'd wasted time composing some thoughts about you that I figured might be useful.  You didn't specify that you wanted claims of illegal dealings with evidence only, and you did say this:

Thus I didn't figure I was wasting my time writing a post in your thread.  I guessed wrong, but no harm, no foul.

Ah, my bad for not being more clear.   I think they were coming down the isle with the drink cart and I was rushed.  :)

People can post good or bad things I've done, with evidence.  (For example, I created BPIP, or I red tagged over a thousand scammers).   But I really don't want to be seen as deleting nonsense posts and just leaving the compliments.

I've been such an active part of this community for so long, they are many discussions about me - I wanted a place to concisely summarize bad things I've done so when sociopaths say I'm bad for the community, it's a simple link to show I've done nothing wrong.  :)

He deleted mine as well.  

I think Vod realizes his reputation is completely destroyed and is just trying to get attention any way he can.  Attacking people seems to be the only way he can get a response and he's forced to attack people here because he's already chased everyone from his life.  Unfortunately, so long as theymos isn't willing to put a stop to this, Vod will continue trolling and littering this forum with misinformation and childishness.  The only good that can come of it is that you can judge the character of those who support him, who you might not have otherwise known were shady and evil individuals.  

Lol how will you manage that? You going to nutildah your post history?

You've done lots wrong.  Even better now you are demanding evidence for claims made. That's just what I was hoping you would say.
Hehe you first.

What, no harassing PMs this time? I'm disappointed.

You're red-trusting trustworthy users with extensive trading histories, who are in no way "high risk", and whose only "fault" is saying bad things about you. You're abusing the trust system to settle your personal disputes. Those are the facts evident in your trust history. You can talk all you want about some mysterious motives and you surely have fooled enough users to maintain your position in DT but I'm not one of them, you patronizing lying piece of shit scammer.

Hey, I made a thread for that.  :)

Thread rules require evidence.   Be concise, and provide links to concise evidence, and I won't delete your post.  No one should have to read fifty pages and ten different links to back up your claim.   "feelings" or "rumors" etc. are not acceptable evidence.

If you need an example, I can use nastyscam.com to show you how evidence should be presented.  Let me know.


I think Mr. OG will be surprised to learn you don't get BJs...   ;)

Many users in DT leaving OGnasty use trust system to settle there dispute's. Some even use flag system at times when someone offends them in a way. I don't think OGnasty has fooled anyone to put himself into DT, rather the vessels making most noise here are the once fooling innocent and new users to fall into there fake trap.

Suchmoon, you are worse than worthless, you are harmful to this forum.

Can you point me to the post in which this was admitted?

Lol which trustworthy users? Give me their names.
Trustworthy like your pal lauda or aka you?
Owl?
Tman ?
Lol bring me the trustworthy users to have a look at.
Most of your pals are either scammers or scammer enablers and facilitators like you.

Vod is a scammer facilitator clearly. He even admits he dare not tag or exclude lauda. Now he's opposing flags that contain proof of scamming by lauda like you have done yourself suchmoon.

Therefore vod and all other scammers and scam facilitators must be ousted from DT1.


Suchmoron is full of shit. Don't  worry though it will self debunk all it's own claims soon enough.
What? people are not really scared of you and pharmacist after all... lol.

Nobody of any standing who doesn't need bitcoin dust from shitty sponsors gives one shit about you or that imbecile and broke bum thepharmacist.

Also stop screaming out allegations and accusations to your elders and betters. Like myself for instance. You petulant little dreg.
Anyone needing to spam for btc dust has little skin in this game.

Lol at protecting lauda and being pals with tman Owl nutildah and calling OG a scammer.
Hahaha yeah I would let one of those hold the forums 500 btc. Not.

Lol at loyceV now reconsidering Vods babysitting application.

Since these people have openly started protecting proven scammers including loyceV then it's clear they must be hounded and crushed at every opportunity.

The reader should be made aware of their real character. However pure and impartial they pretend to be so they can keep chipmixer spamming for dust and sending each other merits.

When he can't do that, maybe you'd consider adding your vote/voice  to the growing number wanting him permanently gone from DT?   ;)

Refusing to praise you and calling you out for your lies doesn't make me harmful, except maybe to your narcissistic ego. OTOH you are are directly abusing the trust system with your bullshit red ratings.

You're not fit to judge someone's worth. You're not fit to run an "investment" that goes to shit but is totally not a scam because you renamed it to something else. You're not fit to hold coins in escrow because you use it to steal some shitcoins for yourself. All you're fit for is to challenge cryptohunter for the title of the nastiest troll.

Mr. OG's plan has always been to scam the entire forum.    You and I are harmful to that plan.  :/

This "troll" Held 500 BTC for the forum from 2013 to 2019. in 2019 500 BTC was equal to 5 MILLION DOLLARS Now let me ask you suchmoon. What have you done for this forum?? If such amount of BTC was held by VOD he would run away with that money. I am 100% sure about that.

Says suchmoon who

1. Is first to oppose the flag of a Proven scammer lauda
2. Is first to stab theymos in the back for daring to suggest DT members remove the proven scammer and trust abuser lauda.
3. Is probably the alt of lauda since along with the first 2 points
a/ had lauda on their includes for ages
b / other members have mention suchmoron speaks Croatian
c/ same caustic style of posting
d/ often first to jump in when lauda was in real trouble.
e/ doesn't hold lauda to standards anywhere near as strict as with others
4. Is pals with other proven scammers tman and owl
5. Supports the proven scammer facilitator nutildah
6. Makes up bullshit then runs away from providing evidence when requested.


Yes cryptohunter is so horrible a troll that suchmoon can't provide even 1 example where he was presenting provably false information as true nor any examples of him scamming ever.

Suchmoon is full of shit and confirmed scammer facilitator and protector.

Also a broke ass fool that needs to spam chipmixer after all these years of being here


So anything or anyone she attempts to protect in DT1 is likely rotten as fuck especially vod who needs to be removed.

Here she self debunks herself again whining about OG claiming shit coins . Because that scum bag cunt lauda used peoples escrow funds and moved them  to claim tons of shit coins and she is including lauda on DT for ages after and always protecting lauda from any punishment even with the undeniable evidence of scamming from lauda . More self debunking and double standards by suchmoron.

Suchmoon is a fucking dumb clown, the reader should strike anything she says away as poison.

Lol not fit to hold 500 btc. Tell me some other people here that the board could trust to hold 500btc for years?

Nastiest troll = the person who tells the most undeniable truths about DT1 scammers.  

Vod is not a scammer but is not fit for DT..  suchmoon is not fit to be a member here. If they are lauda they should be in jail.

This means fuck all coming from a shitcoin scammer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237863) in the making. You also think that theymos should buy an island (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241511.msg54261634#msg54261634) with forum's money. Pro tip: not everyone is a scamming piece of shit around here, although when you listen to OgNasty and cryptohunter too much you might think that way.

I like it when suchmoon starts to lose it and spout madness.

When someone presents independently verifiable facts then it matters not if you try to sully their rep.
Also you are full of shit.  Ch never scammed and never presented provably false information as true.

If the worst you can say is OG claimed some shit coins then you didnt care when your pal lauda did the same actually you had them on your trust includes and are first to protect them when they get in any serious trouble.

Go have a lay down.  You know you are youre own worst enemy when you get in this state.

Also was OG not minding 10 MILLION dollars at the peak?
Who else here hands back 10 Million dollars that are on DT1? A couple at most.

Not you suchmoon if you are lauda and since you're a broke bum needing to spam chipmixer now and deliberately protecting proven scammers ( if you're just a pal of laudas ) I dont think theymos would ask you.

Theymos distrusts Vod so wouldn't be asking him either lol.

Your claims are easily eviscerated as usual.
Go have a cookie your blood sugar is low again.


What's wrong with buying an island? Contact the contributors and ask them. Far better than wasting on a new forum. This one is fine with a few tweaks.

Buy devils island then invite DT1 over.  Get them off the streets.

You did not answered the question. What does your references mean? 1. I was looking for a partner a long time ago. 2. Yes in my opinion  Theymos is very rich. What is the problem? Let me answer to my question myself. You are nothing but a worthless fat granny look like female that does not have a personal life and to make herself happy is sitting and attacking ordinary members 24/7 here on this forum. Here you are DT1...and that gives you a filling that you are "Something" but in real live you are nothing. ZERO. Fuck all coming from me huh? Fuck everything coming from you Alexa. Neither VOD or you did anything for this forum. So stop comparing yourself with OG.    

Didn't he steal value from those coins, and Theymos called it tacky?  Not a single treasurer that Theymos chose returned the coins in the same condition.
How much work is it to do nothing and get paid 0.5 BTC a month? 

 ::)


Another mind reader!  I would have returned the coins without using them.  I don't have a long criminal record like Mr. OG.  :)

Oh dear, I see you're still having issues with women after all these years. Don't go full Quickseller, don't start doxing people just because things don't go your way.

Suchmoon aka Soochckamoon is a same idiot like as vod and liar
these idiots always support each other and their dirty behavior

but if we ll ask Suchmoon, elk and other idiots that supports vod
why vod gave me neg for stupid reason ( i gave to user merit )
they will come up with stupid stories about the fact that vod are a useful user of the forum and he can be forgiven for his idiotic behavior

You can't really deny that is your dox (as you have previously) then say when those names are mentioned they are doxing you.

Anyway since you dare not refute any of the indisputable points I've made about you and your scammer facilitating and protecting ways and your now clear double standards on people claiming shit coins off of coins they dont own personally.

Why should we really believe we can put any stock into your opinions on another proven scammer facilitator vod remaining on DT?

It is quite revealing that suchmoon has time to stalk all of my threads and post demands there that people stop contributing to them. But is scared to actually respond to the points I am making about them personally.

Why? Because suchmoon knows there is simply no defense that will stand up to scrutiny.
They will simply be crushed publically again.

Your days of lecturing on " scam " and  financially motivated wrong doing are done.
Nobody gets to protect scammers if they are pals with them then punish people they "claim" are scammers when they feel like it  

You've dropped yourself further in shit now that we know you find claiming shit coins with bitcoin that is not your own such a huge crime....but never cared when lauda did it and he had to move others coins to do so which was much more risky.

Not only did you not care you had lauda on your includes and were first to stick up and protect him against theymos and a flag that supplied proof of his deception and lies for financial gain.

You just keep making it more probable you are lauda.

What's the address of your forum?   You have zero power here.  :/

Sure. It’s a PM he sent me that I will happily post with Vod’s blessing so it doesn’t get removed by moderators.

Suchmoon, you are always trying to get my attention and spread your dumb lies about me. Considering the people you call friends here, I am not surprised. Make no mistake though, you bring absolutely no value to Bitcoin. Much like Vod, if you disappeared tomorrow, this place would be better off. You have no right to criticize people like me who actually do things. As for the seats I sold for $1.54 that have returned 25x that much to those that bought them, ya, real bad investment. LOL.

I can't tell you that as its a child friendly forum.

Anyway, anyone with a brain that was not melted away would understand that truths that are independently verifiable are all powerful. I mean what can stand against it and not be destroyed?  Certainly not the excuses of the weak and feeble minds of DT1.

DT is regarded very highly on this forum.  Everyone wants to be DT.   Only the most trusted get on DT and are never taken off, like me.  :)

I have no desire to be on DT.
I have no high regard for scammers or scammer facilitators. Hence no high regard for most on DT1 including you.

You are a proven scammer facilitator. You dare not even debate your own actions.

You are on DT because they know you're a desperate old fool who will say what they want if they pretend to be your friends.
The only person on DT1 that really has any real power over this forum does not trust you.

You should be removed right after the other proven scammers.

Whom do I call friends? I don't suppose you have quotes. I'm intrigued who that might be.

:(

It looks like you got his blessing:
The word "here" refers to the thread this quote came from.

He also posted on another thread trying to get me banned here for posting it before I even filled his request... I’m not playing games. If he says it’s fine to post and he won’t ask mods to remove it I’m happy to do so. He has the PM too. No reason he can’t post it himself unless he’s trying to hide something.

You seem to have tangled up in your lies again. Is it this PM (quoted towards the end of the post): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg53114879#msg53114879

You've posted it 4 or 5 times without asking Vod's permission.

This is the jist of the PMs:

- OG PMed I was a coward for not standing up to more scammers
- I PMed I had a lot more to lose than him.
- I sent a PM showing how someone used my linkedin information to attack me.
- OG replied "Martin Lawrence the actor?  Who cares!"
- A year later, OG posts part of the PM and lies "I'm still confused as to why he sent this to me" and calls for the context he omitted (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg53311451#msg53311451).

Purposely, maliciously using children to deflect against my accusation.  For some reason still supported by respected users like theymos, gmaxwell, qwk and philipma1957.  :/

I still don’t have any idea why you sent me a link to a pedophile complaint about you Vod. Glad someone found a link you didn’t get a mod to remove yet so others can see that I’m NOT lying.  :D

Anyone who's not blind can see that you are lying. Nowhere in that PM did Vod admit what you're claiming he did.

If you were a sane rational person you should stop saying that. However given your long history of misrepresenting personal communications I'm not holding my breath.

and it says the liar of the whole forum
it is logical that the liar supports the liar

soochckamoon you lie from childhood ? or....?

Indeed.  Over the years watching who she defends, it is clear she's trash.  It was funny watching Vod's site get hacked and then instead of helping him restore it, she decided to take it over from him.  :D  He's dumb enough to think she's his friend as she now plans to expose him to massive amounts of liability for the chance at making pennies in profits with their new venture.  I wonder who is going to end up taking the fall when that goes bad?

suchmoon was helping with BPIP for quite some time before ownership changed.. and the ownership change was triggered by a loss of server drives & data, not a hack.

Just more false narratives used to perpetrate the lies and mudslinging Og continually puts out these days.

https://i.imgflip.com/4ghgi8.jpg

Have some mercy on Og, he can't really explain why he was lying about that PM above so he made up a mountain of bullshit to hide it.

Lying about the PM. LOL. Reading is hard.

how often do you tell the truth? the answer is never
because you are same idiot as Vod and your other fucking pets

and now you and your fucking pets ( bastards) atacking OG
nothing new

Nothing new indeed.  I only know of suchmoon as a troll who aligns herself with fraudsters obsessed with their ratings on this forum.  They attack anyone who doesn't look the other way at their dishonest manipulation of the system and irrational judging of those who don't fall in line with their nefarious scheme.  Even in the face of facts, like showing the unsolicited PM Vod sent me regarding his involvement with pedophilia, they still say I'm lying.  Nasty Derangement Syndrome, it's apparently a real thing here that sufferers like Vod, suchmoon, ibminer, TMAN, & owlcatz should probably look into getting help for.

Only just noticed this thread referencing me. Thanks for the PM to let me know! [/sarcasm]

Pharmacist is correct, Vod chose to counter negative trust from OgNasty, not similar (ex-DT) negative trust from Lauda or mosprognoz. This was obvious to me at the time, as it should have been to anyone else with half a brain. Whether the negative trust from Og was legitimate or not becomes irrelevant as to Vod's choice of countering someone's opinion instead an opinion. Vod previously had me included in his trust list, but that's a whole "different" story, obviously nothing to do with feedback I left Og  ::)

suchmmon is also right, my negative feedback is merely from criticizing Og. I'm not surprised to see I'm not the only one either. What's new.
+1 to the OP for recognizing things. Still don't trust either of these two fools. eddie13 correctly countered this shit recently, I wouldn't worry about it anymore  :P

Vod: Incase it wasn't obvious, you can remove your positive feedback you left me, it's not doing either of us any favors and it never was ;)
Not going to reply to the remainder of this thread, it's just more og-vod trash talk.

That's not true at all.  You inserted yourself in a conversation and left me a negative trust rating for posting publicly available information regarding this forum's trust network.  Obviously that was unwarranted.  I then took a look at who this idiot is that left me negative trust for posting public forum information and saw you were a scammer.  I don't think this is opinion.  After reviewing all the links it seemed like a clear cut case of you ripping off a project and pushing the scam to enrich yourself.  I do wonder why the usual scam busters (outside of Lauda) decided to ignore your scam, but won't go as far as to say those supporting you benefitted financially from the money you stole.  Personally, I'd rather not have dialogue with scammers, and I don't know why you keep mentioning me, as I don't give a fuck about you or your scam.  I left the rating you deserve and I'm done with it.  No need for you to continue following me around trying to make me seem like the bad guy when it's clear to anyone with an IQ over 60 (sorry suchmoon) that Vod is a liar, supported by childish power hungry fools, who think this is an opportunity to try and take down an honorable member to elevate themselves.  Absolutely pathetic that this is what the community has turned into.  I liked it much better when people supported those who were successful and were happy for them.  Too bad that went to shit in 2013 when every asshat in the world decided they were going to become rich by stealing Bitcoin from users of this site instead of innovating and growing Bitcoin use cases.  Some of them failing so badly they had to resort to registering new alts to try and be respected, and are jealous of accounts like mine that are old and in amazing standing.  Now besides the scammers like dragonvslinux you have morons like Vod who went broke while everyone else got rich, angerly trying to gain power of the trust system to lash out at those who were successful in the most bullish asset run of our lifetime.  All one can do is continue to state the truth and watch who supports the liars and who cares about Bitcoin.

I am open to revising my decision if I could be shown some actual evidence of dragons scamming anyone..
DeepOnion actually sounds attractive as an anonymity project and it looks like the devs never scammed by dumping whatever premine stake supposedly happened or whatever..
And.. I don’t trust Lauda and mosprognos judgment whatsoever..
Soooo...

Dragons is much better than your average shitposter and I don’t think we should be running users like him off the forum lightly..

Your trust rating reference doesn't point to proof that dragonvslinux is high-risk to trade with. But at least you're admitting that it is indeed a retaliatory rating. Such thin skin much DT1.

Your parents should have taught you better.  Sometimes, for no reason at all, people will trust you - and there's not much you can do about it.  :/

DeepOnion was one of the biggest so called "airdrop" scam crypto project of all time. And dragonvslinux was one of the most active supporters of mentioned scam.

Ref 1 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2057229.0

Ref 2 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2066048.msg20624946#msg20624946

If you understand anything in crypto you will understand that it was a huge scam masked under so called "airdrop" with massive amount of shills that were posting countless spam daily on the topic. It is the largest topic in our forum history.

That project had a massive amount of shills https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2006010.msg19967474#msg19967474
Topicstarter of deeponion thread crypto-rainbow and here is his trust list https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=321080 (Check untrusted positive feedbacks.) After that, to clear his name he opened another thread saying that his previous account was hacked. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2683530.0 Some of DT members followed him and gave him a neg on his new profile, but unfortunately they were removed from DT and the scammer get rid from red feedbacks. Here is his new profile and check who posted a positive feedback https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1038794  ;D

Not true, I left neutral feedback, never negative. Not much else to say on this, apart from making the same mistakes as Lauda and mosprognoz isn't a smart move imo.


You're probably right.


Also not true, no point arguing with opinions and conspiracy theories from 2017, instead look at the cryptographic facts from 2019: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5164879


Stop shilling shitcoins dude, you'll get tagged for that shit!

Not surprising you’d lie about this, but in the event your memory is failing you let me make it clear that you did leave me negative trust for posting publicly available information without having had any interaction with me whatsoever. You now stating incorrect information regarding your prior actions doesn’t exactly make me regret not trusting you.

To clear the air here publicly, a short timeline. This isn't intended to dig up the past, but instead about burying the hatchet.

• OG removed his negative feedback against me (as well as my mobile account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2782943)), for unknown reasons. Thanks though, it's very respectable of you.
• I removed my neutral (but critical) feedback to OG "Gave retaliatory negative feedback... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg54066933#msg54066933)", because it was no longer accurate or relevant.
• I removed (https://loyce.club/trust/2020-11-14_Sat_06.08h/1170966.html) OG from my distrust list, as I only distrusted him because of his retaliatory feedback (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg54063055#msg54063055) left against me, to be fair and rational.
• I PM'd Vod to inform him that his counter to OG was no longer accurate or relevant, which he then deleted.
• Vod removed me (https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx) from his distrust list to his trust list, for reasons unknown, but without asking for reciprocation.
• I subsequently removed him from my distrust list, since his dubious counter feedback (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277084.msg55341094#msg55341094) was removed, which had become my reason for distrusting him.
• This currently puts me at DT2 Strength 0, but otherwise from all "eligible" DT1 trust-distrust, I'm still at -1 - so don't panic.

TL:DR: I no longer distrust Vod & OG and all related feedback (+/-/n) has been removed from all parties.


Resolved, case closed.

Looks like you resolved all of Mr OG's trust issues so easily.   Wonder if he'd stop calling me a liar and start trusting me if I stop investigating him.

But, almost fifty pages of a liar calling me a liar - I look pretty good now.  :)

I think you'll find from my summary it's OG who initiated resolving the trust issue I had with him. In this scenario it's OG who was the "bigger man", not me. I just reciprocated removing my feedback, as it was the right thing to do.

I also wouldn't say I resolved all his trust issues, I still see he has negative feedback from DT (-5) as do you for that matter (-3). This also had nothing to do with me so best of luck to you both restoring your remaining trust "issues".

Well, he was also the "bigger man" who called you a liar and left you negative trust first.  He uses negative trust as extortion, which you paid.  :/


Well your fight has nothing to do with me either.  Why is it in this thread? 

If it's not obvious, I'm clearly ignoring past actions, in the spirit of burying the hatchet. I don't feel I was extorted for removing my neutral feedback, as OG removed his negative feedback without expecting anything in return or communicating this to me. I was not obliged to remove my feedback, it was a choice, hence big difference, lack of extortion, bigger man theory.

What matters to me more is how others act in the present, not mistakes they might of made in the past that have since been rectified. Similar to me distrusting you from trust list Day 1 for doxxing OG, sometimes it's better to forgive and move on. This is probably where we differ in opinions more than anything.

Now Vod is using alts to harass people who sell things using my escrow service to waste their time and get their info while leaving more trust abuse. Look at what he just did to rmc. Quite clear from the PMs that this was Vod. His behavior is about as juvenile and shitty as a forum user can be. Amazed there are still users here who support him.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231936.0

I have no alts.  However, this is the third time you have referenced rc's PMs as your own.  :/

I'll state again, I have no interest in making money off this forum, nor arguing with an idiot.

All you do is lie.  Nobody will trust you after your trolling and now harassment of users trying to spend BTC using my escrow service.  You can claim whatever you want but your wannabe IPO was abandoned in the planning stages because you realized that your reputation has been completely destroyed as a result of your continued irrational behavior like a drunken stroke victim desperately clinging to any form of relevance he can.

You actually spent effort to remote the date and link from that quote?  :/   Prices have changed a lot since July 4 - some new figures are up at https://clubcrypto.live


You have nothing but circular arguments.  If you have any evidence I've done anything wrong other than hold you accountable, post it in my reputation thread.  You've been forcing your opinions on everyone for months now - so I'll assume "nobody" is just you and you cohorts.  

Anyone who trusts you is free to post how much they admire your maturity, and add to your voice I be removed from DT.   And if they don't, bring out your big guns with more handicapped jokes.

Vod:

Also Vod:
https://clubcrypto.live/index.php?/investment/

 :D

You don't say how many shares exist and you are selling "500" of them?  What a scam.

You make your investors pay you to develop your idea while giving yourself a free ownership stake?  What a scam.

You charge your members an ongoing fee to be a part of your club?  What a scam.

You claim investors will see a return of over $200 per share within 2 years despite having 0 revenue currently?  What a scam.

Does NastyFans do any of these things?  Nope.  We aren't scammers.

Oh gee, did I screw up?

Have you contacted the CRA yet?  https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/corporate/security/protect-yourself-against-fraud.html

This is a rare opportunity for you to decisively prove 1) I am a scammer and 2) You care for this community.

If you decide to give an excuse why you won't contact the CRA either 1) You don't care for anyone here or 2) You don't believe it's a scam and any kind of financial plan confuses you.

Don't screw this up Mr. Og... protect!

As far as I'm aware planning a scam isn't illegal.  Update: Vod is accepting funds now, scam is underway.  When you raise funds and fail to deliver on your promise of a 400% return in 2 years, that's when it'll be all over for you.  I guess with your recent health problems you figure you'll be dead by then so it won't matter that you scammed investors to help pay your bills since you cannot hold a job due to your shit attitude and poor work ethic.



You already know the answer to this question, but if you would like to share some recent news with the public I'm sure everyone could learn from your karma.

Vod left me another negative trust rating for providing escrow on a ~$200 item. It is fairly clear this user has legitimately gone insane and is now showing what other DT members have absolutely no honor whatsoever by continuing to include him in their networks.

Why didn't you just return the escrow fee to rc, instead of leaving everyone negative trust? 

You made money by doing nothing, as usual.  Rc should be pissed - you should be happy. 

You’d think you would check before making accusations. As usual, your accusation is wrong and that’s provable by the blockchain. Don’t let that stop you from spreading your provably false lies as that is all you do. The sad part is that even though it’s clear and documented that you’re a lying piece of shit, there are still members here that include you in their trust network just to avoid this type of harassment. Show some spine and add ~Vod to your trust settings to show this idiot’s behavior won’t be tolerated here.

Then you better prove it lol.   Your partner posted this feedback:


Why are you keeping his escrow fee?   Is he a scammer for investigating you and pulling out?  What did he do to you?

Stop bashing Vod. The members on this board that have a brain know you are not only an awful person but also a their. You are the one that needs banning

That's a lot of circular talk.  Your partner posted this feedback:


Why are you keeping rc's escrow fee?   Is Chradams a scammer for investigating you and pulling out?

I don't have to prove I did the right thing.  That's why I use Bitcoin that keeps a record on the blockchain.  It is publicly available for the entire world to see I did the right thing.  You should perhaps learn to use the blockchain instead of just tossing out lies that are provably false and making yourself look like an idiot time after time to anyone with even the tiniest bit of technical knowledge.  

Instead of bashing Vod with no proof, why not just post a poll and ask the members of the board if he should be DT or not? And while you are at it, post one for OgNasty too. Then we all can see who really is the trusted one between the two.

We don't need a poll.  Anyone with half a brain can see that I have a much higher trust rating than Vod, or you can just look at who the administration of this forum trusts and who they distrust.

Spoiler alert for those who don't know how to see the admin's trust settings: I'm trusted, Vod is distrusted.


Let's be honest here.  This drama is to coverup that Vod is trying to pull a scam and I have exposed it:

So is it a scam, or am I juszt planning it?  You claim different things, and the community should be warned correctly..  :/

I'm not commenting any more on these deflection threads.  Here is an actual scam accusation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290847.0

All the half brains have removed Mr. Og from default trust again, and all he can do is throw the administrator under the bus.  Theymos has known, or should have known that Mr. Og was running a ponzi since he first announced it (https://web.archive.org/web/20160212042638/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=75843.0). 

The continued bitcoin payments for libel, and the positive trust to promote him, show something Mr. Og is hinting at but too scared to admit. 

https://loyce.club/trust/2021-01-30_Sat_04.10h/30747.html

https://loyce.club/trust/2021-01-30_Sat_04.10h/18321.html

https://cdn1.savepice.ru/uploads/2021/2/4/5169b58ff89af8c065910e8c2d68ff3c-full.png

^ That misleading quote was made by OGNasty, not Vod.  :)