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Title: 3080s for mining...
Post by: aliitp2 on September 23, 2020, 04:25:47 PM
am thinking of getting 3x 3080s since they seem really profitable ATM with nicehash, is it the right move ? or can i get a better ROI with different setup ?...

power cost where is love is 0.096 KWH,

thanks,,,


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: john1010 on September 24, 2020, 11:35:42 AM
I saw one of my friend in facebook posted his hashrate result using 3080 and it was amazing because he got 100MH in a single card,  The RTX 3090 24gb w/ 120mh/s per card mining Ethereum. First it was the RTX 3080 10gb card with 100mh/s per card.

https://scontent.fmnl4-5.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/119973306_10224354253660837_4051473932128924737_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_eui2=AeENUu9nO8PzSHW8VQyRZ2qFjkaewRb8sKGORp7BFvywoZGiW2vFuFLo6gKkDweE0Uh5I7auj90OciKPfdjJ01ZG&_nc_ohc=yaS-A2cCCgQAX9JT5tE&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl4-5.fna&oh=4e8e7cc060d694a28ec6dd683158bc1d&oe=5F90C76B


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Permonik on September 25, 2020, 06:22:54 PM
I am not sure why to pay for 3080, when I can buy two RADEON VII cards for that price, which have 100Mh/s each...


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: miner29 on September 25, 2020, 07:22:15 PM
I am not sure why to pay for 3080, when I can buy two RADEON VII cards for that price, which have 100Mh/s each...

Well for starters the 3080 costs $699 NEW...you cant buy a VII used for under $700 if you check ebay.  Amazon wants $1300 and Newegg has no offering.
So for your case 2 of the vii's will cost you $1400 to get total 200mh/s....and you are getting used.  For $1400 you can get 2 NEW cards which do 120mh/s each....so 40mh/s more with warranty.....

What are you babbling about again?
 


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: P00P135 on September 25, 2020, 07:27:51 PM
I am not sure why to pay for 3080, when I can buy two RADEON VII cards for that price, which have 100Mh/s each...

Maybe in 2019 when they were $350 a pop on newegg new.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 25, 2020, 09:18:52 PM
I am not sure why to pay for 3080, when I can buy two RADEON VII cards for that price, which have 100Mh/s each...

Maybe in 2019 when they were $350 a pop on newegg new.

really? radeon vii was always $699, hbm2 is expensive

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_RX_Vega_series


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: dagarair on September 25, 2020, 09:32:48 PM
https://videocardz.com/newz/geforce-rtx-3080-sees-increasing-reports-of-crashes-in-games


https://www.notebookcheck.net/Some-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-3080-cards-are-crashing-at-factory-overclock-speeds.495200.0.html


Doh, might be like gen 1 1070s that kept burning out.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 25, 2020, 09:48:42 PM
Doh, might be like gen 1 1070s that kept burning out.

$699 and they are not using good components, it reminds me the days of the gt 8800, the early adopters suffered a lot. Imagine paying 70k for a gpu on ebay and issues like this makes you to rma the card only to know you can't ehhe


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: P00P135 on September 25, 2020, 10:53:07 PM
I am not sure why to pay for 3080, when I can buy two RADEON VII cards for that price, which have 100Mh/s each...

Maybe in 2019 when they were $350 a pop on newegg new.

really? radeon vii was always $699, hbm2 is expensive

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_RX_Vega_series

They were $499 for a long time at Best Buy and Newegg.  The XFX ones dipped a few times on newegg to $350 to clear stock when no one was buying GPU's.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 25, 2020, 11:24:24 PM
They were $499 for a long time at Best Buy and Newegg.  The XFX ones dipped a few times on newegg to $350 to clear stock when no one was buying GPU's.

Yeah price history backs you up on the $499 for xfx, not $350, all other models stayed around $700.

more here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s2Jtt6/xfx-radeon-vii-16-gb-video-card-rx-vegma3fd6?history_days=730


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: aliitp2 on September 26, 2020, 05:24:52 PM
so guys any feasible alternatives to the 3080 or RADEON VII at the moment ??... or should i wait for the 3090 ?...


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Riptide_NVN on September 26, 2020, 05:27:36 PM
3090 FE on the way here.  What miner client is in use in the photograph above?  Need to do some research on the best one to look at using.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 26, 2020, 06:05:35 PM
so guys any feasible alternatives to the 3080 or RADEON VII at the moment ??... or should i wait for the 3090 ?...

High end models no, midrange there is the 5700 but pay attention that 5700 is only good on eth and block rewards will be halved few times this year. So I would not touch rx 5700. Well buying eth will make your money at least 3 to 5 times in this bullrun.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: buraz11 on September 26, 2020, 09:30:06 PM
I disagree with you that 5700 are only good on ethash, ever since teamredminer was made  5700 was on par with 2080 in hashrate in most of the important algorithms.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 26, 2020, 09:50:55 PM
I disagree with you that 5700 are only good on ethash, ever since teamredminer was made  5700 was on par with 2080 in hashrate in most of the important algorithms.

Please give me examples because what I see on whattomine is 2080 spanking it on every algo. The only algo I see it better is eth, all other algos it loses by a large margin.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: buraz11 on September 26, 2020, 10:10:22 PM
On kawpow  it does 28 mhs, after ethash thats the most profitable algo, let me know which algos you think are relevant and ill run it.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 26, 2020, 11:48:57 PM
On kawpow  it does 28 mhs, after ethash thats the most profitable algo, let me know which algos you think are relevant and ill run it.


yeah it can probably do that if pushes further on overclocking + lots more watts, I saw a 26 using 220 watts. 2080 can do 26.5 190 watts. See how 5700 is only good on ethash.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: buraz11 on September 26, 2020, 11:55:03 PM
I get it that you like nvidia cards but we are comparing 5700 that costs about 300 to a 2080 that costs almost double to a 3080 that costs double and is a next gen card, if you think thats fair ground i also disagree with that.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 27, 2020, 12:42:42 AM
I get it that you like nvidia cards but we are comparing 5700 that costs about 300 to a 2080 that costs almost double to a 3080 that costs double and is a next gen card, if you think thats fair ground i also disagree with that.

2080 used to cost $699, now you can find for $300 or less. 5700 is around $400 at moment, dont see anybody selling it cheaper and just for clarification, I'm not an nvidia supporter, I support my own wallet and I say how i see things, if you read my posts then you would know that. So my statement still true, rx 5700 is good only for ethash and nothing else.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: buraz11 on September 27, 2020, 02:01:40 AM
Please link a 2080 for 300 so i can buy 10 or 20.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 27, 2020, 02:10:21 AM
Please link a 2080 for 300 so i can buy 10 or 20.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=rtx+2080&_sacat=0&_sop=15


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: buraz11 on September 27, 2020, 02:20:41 AM
you do understand those are auctions right?
like this one
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=5700+xt&_sacat=0&_sop=15


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 27, 2020, 03:20:47 AM
you do understand those are auctions right?
like this one
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=5700+xt&_sacat=0&_sop=15

They are not all auctions, some are "buy it now", you have to look it well.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Permonik on September 27, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
I am not sure why to pay for 3080, when I can buy two RADEON VII cards for that price, which have 100Mh/s each...

Well for starters the 3080 costs $699 NEW...you cant buy a VII used for under $700 if you check ebay.  Amazon wants $1300 and Newegg has no offering.
So for your case 2 of the vii's will cost you $1400 to get total 200mh/s....and you are getting used.  For $1400 you can get 2 NEW cards which do 120mh/s each....so 40mh/s more with warranty.....

What are you babbling about again?
 

No, You are not able to buy it for that price, I am only see prices around 2000USD for one 3080...


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: geck on September 27, 2020, 11:24:01 AM
On kawpow  it does 28 mhs, after ethash thats the most profitable algo, let me know which algos you think are relevant and ill run it.


Running at 1250core/1800mem, after ethash, the next profitable algo for my rx5700 is beamhashiii. after electricity costs, it makes the same as my rtx2080 mining grin (most profitable at the moment on nicehash)


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 27, 2020, 01:46:26 PM
On kawpow  it does 28 mhs, after ethash thats the most profitable algo, let me know which algos you think are relevant and ill run it.


Running at 1250core/1800mem, after ethash, the next profitable algo for my rx5700 is beamhashiii. after electricity costs, it makes the same as my rtx2080 mining grin (most profitable at the moment on nicehash)

Whattomine says a 5700xt does 25 140 watts on beam, 2080 does 30 190 watts, If we think about they are the same, 2080 has 25% more hashrate but consumes 25% more watts. However in the end 2080 is better due to density. I wonder how much a 3080 does on beam and progpow.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: P00P135 on September 27, 2020, 03:53:22 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/j0re5n/evga_geforce_rtx_3090_xc3_crypto_mining/

3090 tests


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 27, 2020, 04:17:06 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/j0re5n/evga_geforce_rtx_3090_xc3_crypto_mining/

3090 tests

Thank you.

For reference,

eth

2080ti, 52.5 180w
3090.., 106  226w

Beam

2080ti, 37.8 220w
3090.., 52.5 279w

Kawpow

2080ti, 31.5 220w
3090.., 45.0 302w

Cuckatoo32

2080ti, 0.68 220w
3090.., 0.98 263w

MTP

2080ti, 4.60 220w
3090.., 7.29 321w

Overall 40% if hash x watts is matched, not impressive at all. Now we need tests on the 3080.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: philipma1957 on September 27, 2020, 04:21:41 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/j0re5n/evga_geforce_rtx_3090_xc3_crypto_mining/

3090 tests

Thank you.

For reference,

eth

2080ti, 52.5 180w
3090.., 106  226w   very close to 2x amd 5700xt you can get two amd's for 750 the 3090 is 1500 if you can get it.

Beam

2080ti, 37.8 220w
3090.., 52.5 279w

Kawpow

2080ti, 31.5 220w
3090.., 45.0 302w

Cuckatoo32

2080ti, 0.68 220w
3090.., 0.98 263w

MTP

2080ti, 4.60 220w
3090.., 7.29 321w

Overall 40% if hash x watts is matched, not impressive at all. Now we need tests on the 3080.

Not too good for mining eth vs a pair of  5700 xt


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: P00P135 on September 27, 2020, 04:35:10 PM
The 3090 is just garbage price to hash, but the 3080 still looks like it could be good if and when we see miner optimizations.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: CjMapope on September 27, 2020, 04:43:39 PM
https://old.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/j0re5n/evga_geforce_rtx_3090_xc3_crypto_mining/

3090 tests

Thank you.

For reference,

eth

2080ti, 52.5 180w
3090.., 106  226w

Beam

2080ti, 37.8 220w
3090.., 52.5 279w

Kawpow

2080ti, 31.5 220w
3090.., 45.0 302w

Cuckatoo32

2080ti, 0.68 220w
3090.., 0.98 263w

MTP

2080ti, 4.60 220w
3090.., 7.29 321w

Overall 40% if hash x watts is matched, not impressive at all. Now we need tests on the 3080.


those PRELIMINARY KapoW #'s are really disappointing...
im still gonna grab some 3080's (only ones with good capacitors tho, some things never change, reminds me of early risers with the "good" capacitors)
once ETH fixes fees it wont be so profitable for these nutbags using current profit numbers for their buying decisions,
im saving my ETH rig upgrades for big Navi likely personally
i want my 30 series for niche coins, kapow, progpow, equihash variants, etc
i wont pay more than 1kCDN$ tho per card, above that ill just wait for 3070 :P



Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 27, 2020, 04:50:13 PM
Not too good for mining eth vs a pair of  5700 xt

once ETH fixes fees it wont be so profitable for these nutbags using current profit numbers for their buying decisions,

eth default hashrate for me is 30 mhs rx 580 and that is giving at moment $0,50 net, if it could reach $1 per day per rx 580 then would be a return to august 2016, at moment if this price keeps, $0.50 net then we have that eip if voted on, it will make any fees not going to miners anymore, so making that $0.50 net to go lower, possible $0.30 if eth $400 holds then we have eth 2.0, hybrid, reducing eth reward blocks to half, if eth is still $400 then from $0.30 to $0.15 net per 30 mhs, there is another eip https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/pull/2878 , to reduce the eth block reward from 2 at moment to 0.5 eth, that will reduce 4x more, so $0.15 net will become $0.04 net per 30 mhs. The only way for eth to return to $1 per 30 mhs is if price increases 25x, from $400 to $10000, that would be 25 x $0.04 = $1 per 30 mhs, will it happen? not in the short term and by then eth mining will be dead. So do not buy expensive cards for mining, stop and think carefully. I would not even think about buying any gpus at all.

There is however a time when all 4gb gpus and asics will stop mining eth, november 2020, for a brief moment and if no eips were voted yet and eth 2.0 is not here yet then that $0.50 net could get close to $1 even if for a short amount of time, weeks to 3 months at most.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: philipma1957 on September 27, 2020, 06:01:59 PM
Not too good for mining eth vs a pair of  5700 xt

once ETH fixes fees it wont be so profitable for these nutbags using current profit numbers for their buying decisions,

eth default hashrate for me is 30 mhs rx 580 and that is giving at moment $0,50 net, if it could reach $1 per day per rx 580 then would be a return to august 2016, at moment if this price keeps, $0.50 net then we have that eip if voted on, it will make any fees not going to miners anymore, so making that $0.50 net to go lower, possible $0.30 if eth $400 holds then we have eth 2.0, hybrid, reducing eth reward blocks to half, if eth is still $400 then from $0.30 to $0.15 net per 30 mhs, there is another eip https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/pull/2878 , to reduce the eth block reward from 2 at moment to 0.5 eth, that will reduce 4x more, so $0.15 net will become $0.04 net per 30 mhs. The only way for eth to return to $1 per 30 mhs is if price increases 25x, from $400 to $10000, that would be 25 x $0.04 = $1 per 30 mhs, will it happen? not in the short term and by then eth mining will be dead. So do not buy expensive cards for mining, stop and think carefully. I would not even think about buying any gpus at all.

There is however a time when all 4gb gpus and asics will stop mining eth, november 2020, for a brief moment and if no eips were voted yet and eth 2.0 is not here yet then that $0.50 net could get close to $1 even if for a short amount of time, weeks to 3 months at most.

viabtc is paying me 0.0283 a mh I have a lot of 40mh cards so 40 x 0.0283 = $1.132 they will pay off in 250/1.13= 221 days.

I expanded from 5 + 6 + 2 + 3 + 2 + 4 + 4 = 24   and 20 1080ti to them and about 26 amd's

so the Nvidia  do 26 a day and the amd do 26 a day. that speeds payoff for me. big time as the Nvidia are paid off.

n= 24

a= 2+ 4 + 5 + 5 + 3 + 4 + 3 = 26


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: buraz11 on September 27, 2020, 10:04:21 PM
hey geck what mining software do you use for beamhash?


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: geck on September 28, 2020, 12:01:04 AM
for my rx5700? i use lolminer.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: batsonxl on September 28, 2020, 05:11:05 PM
yeah 100mhs looks amazing hashrate for 3080 but i will not hurry because 3070 will be best for mining it has less tdp and im sure hashrates will be nice too. Nvidia is very solid cards i like pascal cards are very solid. Amd is good as long as ETH good. Ones ETH falls amd prices gets very low.


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: aliitp2 on September 28, 2020, 08:51:18 PM
guys am the thread opener here, what do you think about keep mining with 1080 Ti, those are really cheap right now, half the price of a 3080, or should i wait once the 3080/3090 is available again ?...

am mining with nicehash, what platform is most profitable ATM ?...

thanks,


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 28, 2020, 08:57:36 PM
guys am the thread opener here, what do you think about keep mining with 1080 Ti, those are really cheap right now, half the price of a 3080

14nm to 8nm is huge, half the price is bad, it should be half of half the price ehhe


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: ZeeeN on September 28, 2020, 10:46:09 PM
so guys any feasible alternatives to the 3080 or RADEON VII at the moment ??... or should i wait for the 3090 ?...

3090is 1499 i think pick 2x 3080 is better choose 699x2 


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: aliitp2 on September 28, 2020, 11:17:54 PM
3090is 1499 i think pick 2x 3080 is better choose 699x2

i guess you are right, but the one am using is the 1080 Ti Waterforce, its the best in the market and doesnt go over 55c, so i like my card watercooled, sells for 400$-500$ on ebay, any idea when the 3080 or 3090 gonna be available and where to buy ?!...

thanks,


Title: Re: 3080s for mining...
Post by: Metroid on September 29, 2020, 12:25:10 AM
3090is 1499 i think pick 2x 3080 is better choose 699x2

i guess you are right, but the one am using is the 1080 Ti Waterforce, its the best in the market and doesnt go over 55c, so i like my card watercooled, sells for 400$-500$ on ebay, any idea when the 3080 or 3090 gonna be available and where to buy ?!...

thanks,

November.