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Who's anyone in here who does not want Tesla car? I mean anyone should dream of this futuristic car that Elon Musk designed.

They just announced that Tesla's 3rd model will be the cheapest Tesla that you can buy in the market starting at $38,000 still expensive but this is worth all the cents that you paid for. Not just the parts, but it is also design wise, most beautiful Tesla car that they've created.

What are we expecting from the Tesla's Stock? What will happen to electric cars competition?


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I'm not so sure. The other car companies are also making electric cars affordable. See this recent news for example:

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/23/success/volkswagen-id-4-electric-suv-unveiled/index.html

"Prices for the ID.4 will start at about $40,000, not including the widely available $7,500 federal tax credit for purchasing an electric vehicle."

Tesla has too much debt and growing competition. What it has is the power of the brand but it is a power it can lose.

It think the stock is in a bubble, even Elon Musk said this. The problem with american companies is that the bubble keeps inflating and you never know when it is going to explode.

Competition wise, there will be innovations from other older companies and I think it is a good thing, there is no monopoly for electric smart cars. In the long road, the prices will get better but with the current economic standing for most countries, I do not think everyone that has a work can afford one. Stock price will probably plummet if the competition grows bigger and a new model that is better and affordable will be released by the competition. I think the biggest advantage of Tesla is that they are the frontier of the industry and that gives them a headstart for a more advance and efficient models.

The fact Tesla has a great marketing doesn't make it most desirable car (for example I'd prefer a Maserati Levante at any time. Yes, on gasoline).
I like the idea of electric car, but I don't like the current electric cars: expensive and with crappy battery.
I've read rumors about the "million miles battery" and I had hopes (maybe unrealistic, I know). A new battery tech - way bigger capacity, way smaller charging time and way smaller price - are needed to make this industry really make sense. Until then the brave ones buying those cars are just investing in innovation. It's a nice gesture  ;D

With states like California now banning the sale of gas cars (by 2035) I like Tesla’s prospects.

Tesla is the future car and I think it's what most people are wanting. Effecient and saves a lot of money but only limited to countries and areas that has chargers of it and has good highways.

I'm imagining that they'll make a flying Tesla soon.

In the original Fast and Furious movie, there's a scene where Vin Diesel tells Paul Walker he owes him an 11 second car. Some tesla's do a quarter mile faster than 11 seconds. The tesla plaid due out in 2022 can do it in 9 seconds. Most analysts look at the range statistic without considering performance or overall cost. If another EV manufacturer were to match tesla's range or performance, I doubt they could match the price. In that sense tesla could be a bit underrated. A value gap which could inevitably widen if tesla's september 22nd battery day announcements come to fruition.

If anyone's interested in tesla cars from an engineering perspective. Here's a good channel devoted to the topic:

https://www.youtube.com/c/MunroLive/videos

Geez, that's about what I paid for my high end Prius.  Also worth every penny, but yes, I want a Tesla car.  I'm also excited about their insurance program.

Does that car has a auto pilot mode? what I love about Tesla is that they're already ahead of today's cars.

Never had a Tesla but yeah, as of today, I think it is still convenient to use gasoline powered cars as we don't have much charging stations yet.

Now I think of installing a solar panels in the roof of the car so it gets charge automatically under the sun, would that be possible?

I see that this is going to happen, we'll see til the Tesla releases their Model Z  ;D

Recently China made world's cheapest electric car but it doesn't really worth the price we pay for and tesla looks more better offer than buying these cheaper cars.The cost of tesla's cheap model is about a cost of mid range sedan online.

Tesla is not just about cars. Heck, Elon happily gave away their electric motor patents. Tesla is getting into the power business, they are going to take over the peaker plants worldwide. Why build and start a costly gas plant when a bunch of distributed batteries can do the same faster?

Yes, they getting heavy into batteries not just for the cars, but for the electric grid as well. And they have solar panels too.

There is also a rumor about people individually being able to sell their power back to the grid with some sort of automated distributed system, possibly including blockchain technology.

So if you buy a powerwall for your home, not only you'll have a backup power source, but also a means of earning some coin when you don't need it. I think you could also combine it with the batteries in your car if you happen to also own one.

electric cars are the future and Tesla will be the leader...
Currently, many automotive companies are following the trend in the direction of market change, that is the electric car market, but not just electric car, most of these cars will be equipped with self-driving technology. btw, I heard there is an electric car company that claims they have a 'Tesla killer' but end scam, that is -> Faraday.

Electric cars are overrated, especially when it comes to sustainability. Making rechargeable batteries and disposing of them is pretty dirty. The cars themselves, in their current form, are not yet used for mass transport, because they can not be refueled everywhere, and even if it is possible, it takes a vast number of hours.

To summarize, they are inconvenient in everyday use. So far, this is just a toy for the weekend, nothing more. You need more capacious batteries, you need really fast charging, you need truly eco-friendly technologies, and not what is now called eco-friendly.

E-cars (and not only cars) are definitely future of transportation, but Tesla is not the only company on the market.
Right now a lot of competition comes from Chinese e-car companies, so there will be a lot of brands on the roads, not just Teslas.

Tesla Motors is headquartered in Palo Alto California although they are based in the United States they have expanded in terms of service delivery. One is the fuel source battery the other is the hydrogen cell, one of these two types of technology used in automobiles may be seen in future vehicles. These two technologies will be an alternative to fossil fuels used in conventional automobiles which are also environmentally friendly.

Tesla and Musk will be trigger of the next financial crisis.
Tesla is more volatile even bitcoin. Musk haven't given positive reports for investors anytime for its history.
But people bringing their money to that company trusting that Tesla is the future. They are wrong!
How Tesla can be such expensive company? They haven't produced any high-quality products, they are not Mercedes or BMW.
This bubble will blow soon.

What am I reading? Tesla is far better compared to the BMW or Mercedes in terms of safety and the cost wise.

Tesla is one of the company is in profit even after the financial crisis we met due tpopandemic and he is one of the top 10 rich individuals due to his company.

Company is not in profit, company haven't seen profit from the time when it was established. Teslas shares are in profit and it is result of huge amount printed money by US. Don't look to Teslas prices its fake and soon it will be ended.
Musk is one of the richest people in the world but why?
I can tell you. Because a lot of people are investing their money in to his projects and they are unprofitable. Musk inflates biggest bubble.
How much cars he sold? Are his cars really good? He is smart guy but his projects are too optimistic.

Tesla's Stock should move up, just like happens when Apple launches a new product. That brings the attention of the investors. News like this always bug the markets, we can consider them good news.

And about the electric car's competition, this is getting interesting because all the big car brands realized how the electric cars are better, they are more efficient, needs fewer parts to work, and are fast as hell.

Volkswagen already made the fastest electric car in the world, and the fun part is that this car is banned for the streets and for any kind of race, is just much power for anything, i will leave the video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rg_weJhssM

wanted to try electric cars but its worth a lot.


if its like apple then i guess i won;t have to buy new car for now. i'll just wait for the next hybrid they'd be creating and see how low the price when the market floods with electric car already. i wonder if there is a chinese version of it.  :D  Elon Musk must be from the future, he encourage people to be multi-universe that we start living to another planets.  ;D

Let's talk about the cyber truck, already more than 500K units were pre ordered and the expected launch will be in 2021.As far as they claim they are better car - semi truck and the cheapest in this category.It was already made so it is going to be launched for sure.

If you watch their latest presentation for shareholders you'll see that they just developed a new battery, which is changing everything. It is better than what they use, cheaper and lasts longer.

A large part of the price of electric cars are the batteries, so any reduction in cost of these batteries reduce the costs for electric vehicles. Also these better batteries are going to complement electric grids worldwide. Soon all those expensive peak fossil fuel plants will be replaced by battery banks everywhere. Solar/renewable are also getting a boost from these batteries, which use less space and can "deep" cycle as seen in the cars.

This new battery uses a new form factor invented by them, But the inside of it made for further improvements:

https://cleantechnica.com/files/2020/09/2020.09-tesla-battery-day-annual-shareholder-meeting-SCREENSHOT-4680-cell-dimensions-1536x830.png https://cleantechnica.com/files/2020/09/tesla-battery-day-nickel-cathode-development.png https://cleantechnica.com/files/2020/09/2020.09-tesla-battery-day-annual-shareholder-meeting-SCREENSHOT-jelly-roll-4680-cell-.png

In short:


This not "the future", this is already here. They are manufacturing those.

Also, in this presentation they mentioned that during the pandemic, all other motor companies had loses, but not Tesla. But this is no just a "car" company anymore, do not underestimate these batteries.

my partner owes one it is nice. I will get back to you on durability of it.

he has it for 18-20 months.

I would own one if I could afford one.

You can probably get an used model S without fancy self driving features for a decent price. Otherwise look at the model 3.

Since you already use solar for mining, you should also install panels/wind in your home, and a powerwall or two... Then later get a tesla car as well. They say people with powerwalls will be able to sell back to the grid at peak hours, think of it as a sort of "mining" (you could even eventually phase out the asic miners for these).

Ideally you would get a new model of powerwall with the newer battery (type 4680). You can even start without any solar, just charge it when its cheap and sell it when its peak hour. I read somewhere they are devising or already have some sort of blockchain related software for this they are trialing in New Zealand or Australia forgot where.

So if you cannot afford the car yet, get a powerwall... Its like a big UPS with better batteries, and much faster response. It can take serious loads too (see cars: powerwall on wheels).

The main thing is not to create an idol for yourself.

I agree, electric cars are the future. And Tesla is the leading producer of electric cars. We all know how important the company is, otherwise the stock price wouldn't be so high. Using electric cars with solar panels at home and charging your car for free at home is the best we can do for the environment. Just look at China they opened now the second biggest solar farm in the world. We must all work together and use renewable resources as energy sources. My next car is definitely going to be an electric car.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm7l3YxEF8g

The Past, Present, and Future of EV's


Good overview and analysis of Tesla and EV markets.

Tesla is the leading producer of electric batteries. Make no mistake, this is going into every home even faster than the cars.

This Australian made a very deep explanation of these new 4680 cells, its even better than what Tesla actually presented:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hbPKE62aM0U/maxresdefault.jpg
EEVblog #1340 - New Tesla 4680 Battery Cell EXPLAINED (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbPKE62aM0U)

This guy owns a Hyundai EV, so he is not a "Tesla fanboy".

I'm from a long time a very strong fan of the Tesla idea of electric vehicles, i love the smart idea and designs and of course i will love to have mine in time. 38000 dollars for the recent release is less than the previous release but it's still quite expensive for an average Joe. I believe that i  time, electric vehicles will become more accessible and cheaper to people around the globe.

That is my plan too, I am waiting for the Tesla cars to drop in price more until I can buy one. For me an electric car is perfect because I only need a car for short trips (<100km) and could easily charge in the garage at home. Unfortunately the cars are still so expensive that I will only switch once my old car dies. Tesla is definitely my favourite electric car. I have been a fan of Elon Musk for years, he is a great entrepreneur and pushing humanity in many fields.

Its a Shame that the Hyperloop is a scam. Do not Trust Elon Musk.

I cannot say that I really want a Tesla car, but they are definitely doing some incredible stuff. The battery tech is where they could really make the money, the automated driving is cool but I think there are lots of environmental factors that will make it tricky to master. Elon Musk is a very clever person, but I find him to be a pretty repugnant human being and it is terrible how he has been allowed to get away with things like blatant insider trading, after which he went on to taunt the securities regulator who were too weak to sanction him properly.

I think almost all would like an electric car to save on fuel but at the moment i don't think Tesla is the first choice there are also other car manufacturers that are making really great progress in the end i think it will be a battle over the price and the one that comes out with a cheap model on the market will be the real winner

Electric vehicles do not use any fossil fuels so they can be a good alternative to ordinary motor vehicles but if a coal-fired power project is used to charge batteries the risk is greater than the environmental benefits and fuel cell cars also use hydrogen to ensure that the environment is not harmed. Also the disadvantage of tesla electric cars is that they can run as long as the battery is charged while this is not a problem for short distances it will require frequent battery charging over long distances.

Tesla is the future especially In developed countries where there is available electric supply but in developing countries I don't think it will make a huge difference. Except if it's also developing alternative power source to power it cars in such areas.