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It is of no doubt that many investors detest bounty hunters as they usually attribute the fault of price fall and dump to them, instead of blaming the project teams that do not put things in place to make their projects stand out.
Today, the team equally treat the hunters wickedly as if they're beggars after the hunters have completed the tasks assigned to them.

I recently witnessed a bounty pool of $15,000 with a participants of around 2,000. The bounty bounty was first scheduled for 4 weeks and later extended to 20 without a dime added to the pool.

The hunters endure the hash condition to complete the project and the hunters' were still delayed for several months after the bounty ended. When the started to pay, just 20% was released extending the rest of the payment to over 9 months.

Despite all these, the token price is still not attractive. Are all these hash treatments meted on hunters worth it!

There're a lot factor on shitcoin dump and bounty hunters is one of them. Most bounty hunters will quickly cashing out or exchange to top 10 coin after they got shitcoin from bounties.

Not sure which bounties you joined in, but I believe that bounties also wrote this kind rules and you can't do anything since it's a rules. Their bounty their rules.

There are good managers who handle these professionally and join those projects they put forward. this is an old thread but do check it ouy

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4528038.0

I have seen something similar happened a lot of time. Sadly nothing can be done about it because we can't dictate the rules and, sometimes it's not even CM's fault IMO the fault usually are of project owners. When something like this happens to me I usually walk out of the project's campaign.

I have also been a victim of this treatment too and to this I think hinters should only participate in bounties whose rewards are escrowed to a trusted manager. That's the surest way of making sure one gets one's reward at the end.

I like it when we put out the names of these projects and their managers so we can shame them at the same time. We shouldn't be protecting them by masking their names and making them anonymous. Are you by chance referring to the Tokoin project? OP, if you don't mind kindly put out the name of the project you referred to so others we know you've facts.

Let's face the truth that some bounty hunters do that dumping and they're a lot, maybe you're just the tiny portion of those who just keep holding it.
Even if the team treat their bounty participants equally, they can't do anything once the BHs received their coins already. They're just gonna go separate ways.

Sometimes these projects  are not paying but why are you protecting the project, why not post the name of the campaign and make them answerable to the community we can also warn investors about their behavior, if they can do this to bounty hunters they can also do this to investors this kind of behaviors are also the same behaviors of scammers.

No  I don't agree with you opinion the project should be the one to be prepared once thier tokens offered as payment . If you don't really want hunters to sell thier share you should pay them in other crypto currency instead of your own coins. It's normal for workers to widraw the money they earn from the job they done so you cannot blame them if they want to sell thier shares .

You made a salient point. The bounty hunters are entitled to their funds. They earned the tokens by hardwork and could decide to do whatever they want with it. If they choose to invest, fine and if choose to cash out, better. If the project is so concerned about dumping, they could pay hunters in USDT and I'm certain that hunters would even prefer that.

I don't think so. Bounty hunters don't dump the token price. We can see that most of the tokens are being dumped 1/2 days before the day bounty hunters are distributed. I have many examples like OKS, ZYX, SGC, ANG, IQ, ARX etc. So how are the bounty hunters dumping the price but they are being deprived of the fair price. I think the team and exchange are jointly dumping the price. Don't blame bounty hunters for price dumping.

I stil do no understand this shit explanation by investors. When only a small portion out of the total tokens are distributed to hunters how can they affect the price of  that token?

Investors should understand this simple calculation..

Most hunters here do not care about the project and they are willing to promote anything that pays them token, without even realising what the project is offering?

If you are promoting a shit project you will end up getting peanuts. In my opinion hunters are responsible for such treatment from project developers.

Still there is no guarantee a project will deliver what they have promised as a hunter you have to be ready to take that risk.

If the coin (project) is solid, there is no reason for the price to fall after distribution to bounty hunters. The price drop is most often caused by poor project performance and development or poor bounty planning. If you think your bounty hunters will take down the price of the coin (token) then just don't organize bounty campaigns. Simple as that!
But no, most of today's projects are conceived as scam from the start. Therefore, the cause of the price drop are not the bounty hunters but the owners themselves who are trying to cash in their bags as soon as possible.

THe project should know what they are looking as advertiser don't look for quality look for quantity that the promotion can have if you will only choose all the participants that can join in your campaign.

This is also another big problem in the forum there are too many abuser that want to earn free money in the name of bounties. so they join using multiple accounts in many  bounty campaign .

But reality will always slap us in the face. Most project managers mentality is "Why would we pay convertible money when we can just pay them useless tokens! Not to mention abuse them and treat them like a dog!". I've been a victim of this abuse that's why I stopped doing bounty campaigns that pays in valueless tokens (Though I still consider projects that depend reputable campaign manager and project founder).

A couple of years ago, there was an initiative to create a bounty hunter trade Union that would protect their interests. But after a long discussion, it came to nothing. Therefore, as before, each bounty hunter must independently decide which bounty to participate in. At the same time, they should keep in mind that the rules may be changed and they may not be paid for their work.

This happens quite regularly and teams behind those projects are usually getting away with no repercussions. You cant fight them legally, but bounty participant should more often raise their voice and express their stark disagreement with such unfair changes/practices. In the past I observed that threats of "scam accusation" work the best as teams are afraid that that could damage the image of their project.

All this is due to hunters blindly following each and every campaign, I have also seen such campaigns couple of times and i think hunters should unite in this case and pressurise the team to stick with original plan otherwise report those people for fraud everywhere. So that others will not exploit hunters in future.

Just to be fair with the projects, perhaps they've learned their lessons from the 2017 bull run. Many bounty hunters cheats a lot of campaign with alt accounts but no one. complain that time from bounty hunters because they make a killing out of it. But the community started to have merits, and bounty cheaters are caught one by one. And then the project offering has been reduce and now we have started to hear this complaints for the last 2 to 3 years or so because the market witnessed a bear market.

I guess for bounty hunters, if you find the project offering you cheap rewards then skip and look for other bounties. We are no longer in the 2017 hype, everything has change then. It's no longer a "job" for everyone. You might as well be a trader or investor to make more money instead of joining scam and fraud projects.

Mostly they make the hunters faulty in a reason that they don't care much of the tokens being sent to them but if it will be put in one piece mostly investors contribute much of the falling price if certain investors do have a weak hand.

As far as I could tell it isn't but hunters do have a choice where they'll join projects they think that has good pay. As per the distribution I think it was a little too harsh really, I've been on the same boat and still waiting if they'll ever distribute it, hoping the future of bounties is paid weekly or monthly.

You faced a common one,which was faced by many hunters after full work by the bounty team.It should be avoided by the project to get good response from hunters and investors.After bounty also the token going to sustain in the market,if they scam hunters it will loss for the project at the end.

Of course investors will hate bounty hunters because they are the ones who damage the price in the market, I also don't know whether this is true or not, but what I felt before as a bounty hunter when I got a token would sell it no matter what the price was definitely sold because they wanted to exist a definite reward and want to make money from the bounty.

But I see the hunters now asking them only that "when is the distribution" maybe the team is fed up with that word so bounties are imposed like pengemi.

But I think the bounty also can't be faulted completely because they are the ones who continue to promote better than other marketing.

First of all, I don't think that bounty hunters are the ones who dump token prices. Perhaps most of bounty campaigns allocates only few percent of their total token supply to those bounty hunters. So, only a few percentage  would affect the token price if bounty hunters sell their token right away.

well your logic is very correct because if you look at the total supply of a coin and its price at the exchange if the price falls and blaming the participants of the bounty campaign is a big mistake because actually what makes the price of a coin collapse is a project that is not very useful so making many people disinterested and no support from the developers is also one of the reasons.

Yes, and that is clearly seen in all campaigns because on average bounty campaigns make small allocations for bounty hunters, so that the effect of reducing the price is only slight even though all bounty participants immediately sell their coins after distribution by the project team.

I have joined many good projects so far, each project realizes that when pioneering development it requires support in any way, including bounties to campaign globally on forums and social media, when the project reaches its peak they will thank the bounty hunter and will be paid for campaign services. The only reason a bad project would be to divert the price dump was because of the bounty hunter but to be honest the project's growth was not good.

They should blame investors of those coins who bought during pre-ICO at an outrageous cheaper price while waiting for the coin to be listed thereafter dump them immediately to make some profits, they are the major culprit, they don't bother about the future prospect, project and development of the coin while its very unfortunate that the dumped in token prices are usually placed at the door step of hunters even after enduring an endless wait to earn from their hard work, hunters should be selective in choosing bounties as the way out of this problem.

Agree, the bounty hunter is not the main reason why the token dump too much. If the project itself is profitable, investors will probably buy all the dump token from bounty hunters. But the real problem is the developer of this project can't support their project or maintain the promising prize of their coin. Even if the allocation percent on the bounty campaign is too low, the token price will dump because the investors and developers of this project can't see that this token will be useful in the future.

We cannot do anything about this kind of problem mate just be very careful on joining trusted bounties or you may join only the btc paid campaigns to avoid this such unfortunate situation joining bounty in this forum is all about luck much better to get a full job and threat this as a sideline.

Scam accusation won't work anymore if there are no supports from the reputable higher rank forum members, it was happening on DigitalBits bounty campaign after a year of waiting to get paid the bounty hunters receive nothing but insults and humiliation and the worst is their KYC's are held hostage by the DigitalBits team they have a scam accusation Thread but not much-getting support from higher ranks that's why if any investors looking into it they don't believe because there is not enough TAG now they are proudly running an Ambassador  Bounty campaign again like it was nothing happens. thats why its better to stop joining such Abusive Bounty campaigns to avoid those incidents to happen again. 

There's the only way to fix this problem to make sure the creator of the campaign wanna try to escrow the funds that being used to pay the hunters, this story is always happening since a few years ago but only some managers who have been putting the community at their priority.

This can't be done easily at least the hunters must also avoid to promote the suspicious project.

This must not happen forever.

People should aware about this especially for the hunters who are blindly promoting any platforms.

Well, I've been a victim of this before where a project we were supposed to promote for 3 months was extended by another 3 months, making 6 months, we couldn't do anything but to keep going, at the end of the 6 months, tokens were distributed only for them to be locked for another 6 months, some of us were happy because we thought that before the 6 months lock elapses, token must have added a lot of value but we were wrong, before the end of the lock period, token was only listed on latoken and price was shit, there were alot of sell orders with no one to buy, we all ended up with usless tokens...

Token prices dumping on the exchange shouldn't be blamed on bounty hunters, project managers are the ones to blame cus they fail to put in place a mechanism that will cub the effects of bounty hunters sell off.

This is a very big problem that still exists up to now, projects and even the manager do not give us fairness. They freely extend the duration of the campaign without consulting us, in addition, they require a lot of information in order to receive tokens.
There are quite a few projects that previously required KYC and even email and phone numbers. This is like taking our information publicly.
I think a bounty campaign should have a moderator at the bitcointalk forum that rules by law, we need to be protected!

And I also don't think that dumping happens just because of the bounty hunters. This is not possible. if we look through project allocations, we can conclude by ourselves. I mean the percentage of coin allocation that is shared between the team, investors or bounty hunters. bounty hunters always get the rest and sometimes only a few %.

I don't agree with what investors do, blaming the bounty hunter for a dump.
It's a scapegoat. Blame others while they are really the culprit of the dump.

They are the ones who got the bonuses from the pre-selling and I bet most of them are not long term investors but just in for profit.
Anyway, the team behind the project should have a solution for that. It always happen so why not be ready for something to equal it.
Blaming hunters for just 1-2 percent total of the token is not enough to bring down the value of it.

I'm sorry for your situation. You should do better research in the future. I can assume that you were mentioned about alchemy bounty. Alchemy bounty isn't right to do that. Now alchemy project will be distributed every 3 months but before starting the bounty no rules were there about it. Without limited hunters, we shouldn't participate in a low budget campaign.

it is no longer news that campaigns organized here have no intention of paying hunters. Most project owners believed that hunters are engaged in lots of projects so they will get paid working on other projects. it is obvious that bounty these days are worthless. forget the hustle, it is just worthless. My humble advise to newbies here is to go back to airdrops.

There are still worth promoting projects and teams paying good tokens that actually will have a value in the future. These projects however is just rarely going to do campaigns and you'd be lucky to have joined in because most of the time when a good project does have a campaign, bounty hunters just rush to join filling all the position which is limited.

But then the payment phase again will take weeks to months. This is becoming normal too.

When you are getting paid with some random project tokens is always a gamble what you get. Either get the projects you want to advertise or accept only projects that pay with coins that have value (like btc/eth).

Or then you have a possibility of writing in here and not wearing signature at all. I feel amazed how bounty hunters seem to think that it's a real steady job with an union benefits. Like they are entitled of more benefits because they've been promised stuff. Investors get scammed left and right and bounty hunters are surprised that their work sometimes aren't worth it?

But if it makes you feel better, those projects that don't treat bounty hunters well don't probably care about their investors either, because paying investors don't want to deal with all the shit talk and fud that unpaid bounty hunters unleash that could affect the value of the token.

It is too difficult to determine who is to blame when the prices of newly listed token or coin on exchanges do not match the expectation of many. Bounty hunter only have 0.1-1% distributed of the total token allocation, and are they to blame when prices drop on the exchange?

I think so far market support for new token has been very weak as trader still find it too difficult to believe in the potential that exists in these token. Lack of market demand makes it difficult for price to rise, and that will continue to be the case with most new token or coin. As usual, the feared new token or coin had no potential to be sustained and it made bounty hunter sell it cheap in the market.

How all projects and bounty managers say - dont like it, dont participate. No one forces you to join. But then, with such an attitude to hunters, blame them (even if they are not guilty) for dropping price and burying a project. Funny, sad and ridiculous cycle of bounty.   

This is "The risk" and I think we all know about that. So as the hunter must prepare anything to face the future of the project.
But i think is not true if blame bounty hunter about dumped price. They just receive around 1% from total allocation and will be split to thousands of participants

Yeah it's sad but bounty hunter technically have zero rights against the projects that they are doing their bounty work for.
The argument is always "What do you want, you get free money anyway". But the truth is that most of the tokens you get from altcoin bounties will probably be worth 0 anyway.
If you feel treated badly as a bounty hunter by a project like in the case that OP mentioned you can open a pots in the reputation section of this forum, so that at least everyone knows that a project is not acting ethically.

I always put in my mind that I should be ready for managing my risk in case something happens to the bounty campaigns that I've joined. There are several factors in which these bounty campaigns have in store for the hunters, in which they're playing mind games with us.

Such factors are the following:

1. The sudden change of bounty token supply after the bounty campaign is over.
2. The sudden extension of bounty duration (from 8 weeks to 12 weeks or more)
3. Different phases of bounty that doesn't make sense
4. Sudden announcement that all bounty hunters must complete KYC (especially if passport is needed)
5. Distribution of tokens are at least 6 months to a year (it doesn't save the project's token from getting dumped)
6. Tokens are not escrowed. Either team or bounty manager can cheat or exit scam.

And so much more. This is just the sad reality for bounty hunters like us. This should be regulated in the forum, with the exception of those who are stable, reliable and with years of credibility (especially those bounties who are paying in BTC, ETH, XRP, USDT, etc.).

Just from changing rules and not giving what is required or said amount already shows that the project is not really that good to make it a big thing, that's the reason maybe it didn't attract many investors as the project may be not that useful or the team is not good enough to really succeed fast. Being true to words and considering the participants even the bounty hunter as part of the team or as investors may make their projects more likely to succeed if their good in managing and marketing.

If investors are angry or don't like bounty hunters, it's quite simple. Tell the CEO and the project team not to do bounty campaigns and do the marketing themselves.
worth or not it depends on the results you get later after listing, and I also remind you that if this is a risk as a bounty hunter, there is nothing we can do except follow the rules that have been made by the bounty manager and the project team.

You have to consider howmuch the team's percentage of the total amount of tokens and are they in the vault for keeps. If they are readily available for dumps I guess the team has something to do with dumps. I wouldn't be considering joining unless its really a good project to try.  Bounty hunters are not totally getting all the blame for the tokens price dump. Its a fact that hunters are dumping most of the time.

Bounty hunters are treated like beggars because they act like beggars.

You can offer them a shitty payment made in some wannaby coin that isn't even listed on any exchange and they'll accept it.

When you guys show the managers and dev teams that you're desperate for money they'll take advantage of you.

Some of the bounty hunters are just joining bounty without even knowing the purpose of the project, how much they can get and how much is the value of the bounty this is why they are getting confuse on the end of the bounty.

Hunters are not acting like a beggar, they are just working and helping the team to grow, its just that the dev team are taking the advantage and not committing on their promise date. The manager also have to support the hunters because he’s the voice of the hunters and he’s the one introduces the project to the hunters.

So for the hunters to avoid this kind of project, he should also do his homework before joining any type of bounty.
Check the reputation of the BM, the foundation of the project, the probability that they will truly implement their mission, the team behind it, and other factors.
If the hunter feels that the project is heading to be a scam, leave the project even if he already wasted effort. Don't waste more.

If you think the bounty wont work well, don’t participate and I see good managers that protects the interest of the team and the bounty hunters as well. Delaying the payment is inevitable especially if the dev team needs more time so they can come up into a good project, this is usually normal but I hope if they delay the payment they should also increase the bounty allocation.

It's not the risk anymore but IMO if that's their decision to choose the crap projects. They have a lot of chance to avoid the crap project that will always fool the hunters but in fact they were rushing to get more and more campaign and do all of these campaigns at once without try to DYOR.


I do agree with it and it's just like when DIA was getting dumped so hard even the bounty didn't yet distributed.

DYOR is a must for any hunters.

The hunters should stop blindly rushing any projects

changes in rules that often make bounty hunters disappointed. But, do you know, every bounty manager will tell you that the rules can change at any time, and when we choose to join it means that we are ready to accept all the risks and changes. I am sure, the bounty manager and competent dev team will definitely grant the bounty hunters who have helped promote the project. it's just that, there are some people who take advantage of it to cheat the bounty hunter, so they argue many things by utilizing "change in rule is the right of the organizer", so that a lot of drama appears, rewards are reduced, periods are added without compensation, distribution is postponed, etc.
Come on friends, understand this as a risk, be an educated bounty hunter. As long as changes to rules are still reasonable, we have to accept, if we don't agree, then submit a petition in a polite manner.

Bounty hunters are literally worth pennies bounty hunters will still accept few cents for several months of works a friend experienced that on one bounty campaign named leadwallet where it pays $3 or even less for months of works I will not even surprised if bounty hunters received $1 of works after months of works while the developers are making millions.

Welcome to the Altcoin Bounty world here in crypto in which the Most scam and BS place you can find.Sad to heart about your experience but since you are only registered last May in which i believe you are a newbie,now better understand that you are lucky still receiving payments from the team even it is 20% because many of them are not paying,running after the ICO and care nothing but their bagged investments.

Unfortunately you're right, some bounty hunters are desperate to join a project without even researching if this is legit. So whatever they receive they will blindly accept it or if it turn out to be scam, partly hunters are to blame because not careful on joining and easy to convince for a too good to be true rewards.

There are projects that pays but the price gets easily dump once the hunters sell their rewards. But good projects wont be too affected even this situation happened and it is expected for hunters to sell because they deserves it after months of promoting.

It has been like that since bounties started to appear many years ago. That is also true during the golden year of bounties in 2016 and 2017. You can join many bounties and then you will be surprised that there will be extention of dates, and then delays in payment, and also those who declare failure of the project and they cannot pay you even a dime for the work you have given them. Such is the condition in cryptocurrency and there will be more if we are not careful in picking up the right bounty to join.

It's been long this kind of thing has been happening. In most of the cases is not the fault of the project managers but that fault of the owner of the project...
They use different techniques to treat hunter badly, some project might even look promising but at the end of the day they won't even pay, at least have seen up to 5 project that I did last year and they promise to pay but till now they haven't said anything about it..
So to me I don't think that there's something Bounty hunter could do and sometimes is  advisable to leave the project whether you detect any kind of scam.

Not only leave but report them as well so they will be tagged, we have so many scams now and we must help our fellow bounty investors and fellow investors so they will not get scam, if these scammers successfully scam people they will not stop they will continue to scam people, these people will not satisfy as long as they can scam people.

Without a dime added to the pool? Damn! man, that's hilarious. I mean, that's one of the worst burglaries I've ever heard. +20 weeks? no matter how legit was the project that's no justice man. They should not made any bounty from the start and those bounty managers really need to excrow the rewards if not, there will be a lot of cases like this to happen in the future. Not just you OP, I witnessed such kind of scenario when I was doing bounties 2 years ago and until now I cannot forget the name of the bounty and the manager who promotes it.

This is the Bounty I'm talking about: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5061455.0

That was two years ago the bounty manager do not deserve to manage the campaign if he cannot give bounty hunters a fair treatment, I also have a share of bad bounty campaign some of them have bad reports and I support those reports and I guess if you are active in bounty campaign you will have a share of bad bounty campaigns, there are so many bad and scam bounty campaigns.

Hunters should create respect for themselves by taking prompt actions like leaving the campaign if the team announces extension.
If the reward is small try to avoid such campaign.
Projects that solely depend on soft cap should also be avoided because they will most probably end up not raising enough funds due to slow ico market. The hunters should also raise voice for their rights and reward at all project pages and channels and also post about bad behavior of project team or bounty manager at forums.

scammers keep abreast of trends that occur in the market. therefore there will always be a project scam that will trap bounty hunters and investors. they are looking for gaps in what the market is interested in. as now we better be careful with projects on behalf of Defi. You can see that today, after becoming popular there are many new Defi projects seen.

when a project fails and is not paid for, the bounty hunters can only tacitly accept the fact that the bounty hunters' hard work doesn't get rewarded, this is really unfair, when the price drops on the market by the bounty hunters they blame, I assume It is natural for bounty hunters to want to get rewarded by doing the dumper because they want to get rewarded for their work immediately. But this is a risk for bounty hunters and must be accepted, because there are no laws to protect bounty hunters if they don't get anything.

Base on experience, yes, that is true.
Some of us are still lucky to get paid in an environment in which most of the team behind the project could just get away with it and no one will sue them.

That's the problem with bounties. It's more like a freebie from the owner's perspective.
To us, it is more like a job already.
Take the risk, swallow the truth that sometimes they don't pay.
I just don't really like the blame game that investors are using to pin the dump with bounty hunters.

20 percent release now and the rest of payment over 9 months didn't mention before bounty started. Actually, bounty managers don't create these problems. I joined an "injective protocol" campaign where they didn't keep their promises. The same situation was created by the most popular projects DIA, payment was delayed for 2 weeks. I know, these projects changed the rules before distribution to rejected bounty hunters.

doing bounties is a job and if a real job has a law about illegal recruiters or employers that arent paying , why not put the same law on here ? bounty hunters are not payed imediately after doing the work but they some of them sell imediately after recieving the reward  .

they sell because they are excited to taste thier hardwork and value could already be dumping  . they dont care and still sell at loss but in the end they are still being blamed for the dump of the price .

I believe hunters have every right ot do whatever they want when they get the token, I mean this is their own money from that point on forward so that means if they want to sell it right away and dump the price they have that right. If you are so worried about paying people your token and then people dumping it, why not trust your own token and pay with USDT, that way creators will have more token and if their token worths more that means they will be richer as well.

But they don't, why? Because they do not believe on their own token, which is why people actually do not give usdt or btc, they give their worthless token because they created it and it didn't cost them a single cent to create it, so they lost nothing. Which means even if hunters dump, the creators are richer.

to be honest there are no guarantees in the bounty project, this work cannot be used as your main income. as we all know that this is all free and we also do this job at no cost. So whatever happens, we must always be ready to face the risk of not getting paid or losing time due to a scamed project.

Personally I detest bounty activities because of the usual unfair treatment of hunters, projects and investors are quick to blame the hunters for the fall of price while the fault is usually from the project owners. I stopped bounty since last year because same reasons you gave here. And I don't think I'll ever get involved anytime.

yes, bounty hunters are always associated with it. whereas if you can realize that bounty hunters only get the rest. if it should be at fault maybe the early investors, because the initial investors were the first to buy the coins during the pre-sale of tokens. they get tokens earlier in comparison with bounty hunters.

Obviously in this case the very logical thing to blame is the initial investors who buy tokens at a cheap price and with a lot of bonuses, so they own tokens faster and have the opportunity to get a lot of profit even though they sell below the standard price, and who getting the rest of course is often too late like the hunters and some are not even paid at all, so the person who blames the hunters for the price reduction, then it is a fool and does not know the actual project flow.

now it seems that bounty hunters are only being used for various ways, finding followers on telegram / social media is huge, but the benefits are only for them. the behavior created can always end up cornering and not being able to do anything. because they have arranged well what will be questioned later with the system they made like that.

indeed, they have to go back to the beginning of the bounty which all transactions are applied in the forum only and not leaving the forum will make them maybe more careful and there will be no new account to become BM.

Once, I was really disappointed, when everyone bounty, that I have participated, refuses to distribute. But now I taught myself not to expect much from bounty. Like it was mentioned many times before - "bounty is like a lottery". When you buy a ticket, you dont expect that you will be the one that gets a jackpot. Consider participating in bounty as being a part of a project and you might have an opportunity to test it (if you get tokens or coins).

If the project or bounty manager treats you unfairly, make the same to them. If bounty manager is lazy to fill the spreadsheet, correct it or help you with bounty - skip this campaign. If he treats you like this now, when distribution comes, his attitude will be even worse.

If a project treats hunters like crap. Spread the word about it. I'm sure you will find a lot of support from fellow hunters and this story might have similar impact as United Express Flight 3411 incident (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Express_Flight_3411_incident) (in short, due to this incident, the company lost millions of US dollars).

At this point I can't take those messages seriously - there is so much information about any crypto project that it will take like 5 minutes to understand system behind any IEO/ICO and to see that BH are just "distributors" of coins, not regulators

We need to be smart when choosing projects to join bounty programs. If the project is longer than 20 weeks, I will quit it immediately. The effort needs to be put in the right place.
There are hundreds of petty bonuses out there and we need to revisit the project before we get started.

True, a review before joining a project is clearly needed by every bounty participant, because adjustments between the duration of time and the allocations given for the bounty campaign must also be seen, not because chasing a reward in a bounty but it can harm time indirectly.

If any team or bounty manager behaves unfairly to the bounty hunters then the hunter community should totally boycott them. We know that most of the projects these days have 99% bounty hunters in their telegram and other social media channels which represent the community of a project so it can really hurt them and teach them a lesson.

for now the payments we get from the results of following the bounty project are completely inappropriate, and the results obtained from bounty participants do not have a major impact on reducing the price of a coin, because the allocation given to bounty participants is only around 2 -5 of the total coin supply

Sometimes it's much lower than that, there are some developers that they think bounty hunters are not going to choose what projects they are going to work even if it is paying pennies, bounty hunters should unite to not work on these kind of projects if you accept these kinds of rewards you will soon received pennies for 3 to 5 months of worth and they will even laugh at you, we are not beggars here.

That's the problem with bounty hunters, we don't choose, instead we allow developers to take advantage of us and that makes us looks very low in front of those developers and project teams, that's why they change rules as they like when bounty is finally over, only very few team takes bounty hunters very serious and pay them as promised 

No one is forcing bounty hunters to promote a project, it's a matter of choice, if offer isn't good enough bounty hunters should leave, a bounty pool of 15000$ shouldn't be allowing 2000+ bounty hunters, this means you won't get any reasonable reward from such bounty project, stay away and if it's good enough for you then join. It's that simple.

The majority of projects spend only a very small part of the supply for bounty hunters, usually within 1 ~ 5% of the project's total coin. In my opinion it is not right to blame the bounty hunter, if the project is good it is certain that the entire bounty hunter sold off his money would not affect it.

That is currently what is happening to most Alternate Coins and that is why I really got lucky to have a weekly signature campaign.

These developers would just create a hyped situation in which they consider their Alternate Coin to gain profit and have these maximum value but when they achieve their profits in the middle of campaigns, they stop developing their projects which really sucks and would really be a scar to people who are enthusiastic with campaigning.

Bounty hunters are not worth it to be treated like this and this is the reason why they are free to choose the campaign they think has high potentials to succeed. If the project will just run like this, bounty hunters are also free to stay or leave. Because we can do nothing about this once the bounty campaign rules is already fixed and established by its project developer.

So the issue is between fixed prize allocations or limited participants? I personally like projects with limited participants and fixed prize allocation. at least it's worth the effort we put into promoting their project, but if this project really succeeds in the market, and if not then I also know the risk of losing time.

It's really unfair, the way they treated with hunters. but haven't found any solution cause hunters don't have right to change the rules when manager have. I found most of manager mention that "rules can be changed",  that's the reason they exceeded the week without any further notice. Sometimes they reduce reward or exceeded distribution date & hunters have nothing to do. But if the project real, then nothing to worry about those issue

There are so many things that can affect the prices, i believe that the small percent of the token that is alocated to bounty hunters can affect the prices if they dump it but if the project is promising it will rise again after few weeks or months. I also believe that we can also put a blame on investors who buy in a big discount that also dump thier token, its really unfair if the bounty hunters are always blame in the falling of the token price.

Developers and few bounty managers are rules breakers, since all bounties have this rule that ' bounty rules can be adjusted or change at any time' gives majority of new projects the chance to manipulate rules or postpone bounty hunters payment at any time, this year so far the only bounty project that wasted no time to pay bounty hunters is Cartesi, the kept their promises and treated bounty hunters like their own.

I have a lot of unfair treatment from a lot of campaigns since 2018, there are still no good projects until now that can match what we are getting back 2016 and 2017, it's not even half of what we used to get, it started when so many bounties started locking the bounty then they start giving a specific number of coins instead of allocating a pool, bounty hunters are not complaining so these projects thought that even if they give these bounty hunters pennies it will be ok because it's ok to them.

Unless bounty hunters are content on what they are getting, this treatment will continue.

Yes, there are many reasons for this, but one of the very strong reasons is when there are big dumper and people tend to blame the bounties, even though they don't know anything about it, so it seems ridiculous to have someone around. who blames the bounty participant in this.

Some of the investors blames bounty hunter for the price fall of their token, yet some bounty hunters also blame that investors are the ones who put the price of tokens to fall since they are the ones who has more tokens allocated conpared to bounty hunters. But i think we as a crypto enthusiast, we shouldn't put the blame to anyone. Just unite and promote the project for the better development.

I have been participating in the bounty since mid-2017 and have already seen a lot of interesting things. You are right, the attitude towards the bounty participants has become very bad. At the beginning and during the process of each bounty, the treatment of participants is more or less normal, and when it comes to payments, this is where the most interesting begins. The admins of bounty companies are starting to stall for time and create a number of obstacles to getting earned money. And I see it has already become a habit. But what I hate most is when bounty members are accused of dropping prices. I have observed many times how the investors or the team themselves dumped tokens, thereby sending the price to the bottom and at the same time they shouted that the bounty participants were to blame. And there are such bounty companies as, for example, DigitalBits, which simply did not want to pay. And the most offensive thing is that no one can do anything to them.

I think there's no need to blame everyone for a coin that is gonna dump. We should be lenient and don't put the blame to every single on of us because we are all same as a crypto enthusiast. We should unite and promote our own project so that everyone would benefit in the long run. Besides, if some says that bounty hunters are the one who's capable of thr dump, then look at the bounty project's total allocation, it is very small compared to investors part.

But the project team is not generous to distribute that small amount to the people who helped that project to exists this much longer, Karma is a bitch. :D

I do agree with what most of the hunters are saying and most of us here especially active accounts has suffered through nor payment of bounty tokens. Since January this year I have worked for over 8 different bounty and only 2 has paid so far.

I viewed a part of this issue of bounty hunters facing harsh condition of cryptocurrency project been emanated from the fear of the team as many project are/would not be successful or reach its goal on time (struggled hard trying to reach softcap) after all hassle to bring it up, which is why team tends to slash the reward pool and even distributed out rewards in 12 months installmental.

And thats the most pissing part on where you do all the hard work and make use of your resources on doing the task for several months and you do end up nothing since you havent been paid by the team.

Basing off into my bounty experience back in the past then i did really able to meet these kind of unfortunate events and thats the reason why i did left and never comeback to bounty hunting.

They're good in some intro which they do make out some sweet promises but ending up to be dumped in the end of the campaign.You would really be just like a beggar who do keep asking for your pay
and then they would just tell you an indefinite time for those rewards to be distributed.

Its always been unfair but there are still people whom do waste up their time with bounties and does still had some hope and believe into something.

we can't really do something about it but it's true i've seen that there's a lot of works for bounty hunters and yet most of the time the payments were all delays and sometimes wasn't able to receive it but there's nothing you can do if the projects managed to delay the payment since it's their decision.

Bounty hunters are not at full fault on price fall of tokens. I may say that its mainly because of dumping of tokens of the investors and other parties who got the tokens earlier than others. Having these token before the official release got them the advantage to control the price. One team(dumping) will go on massive selling and different advertisements to gain fame to the public then the other team(pumping) will buy it expensively to raised its value and continue these cycle. Until other parties(bounty hunters,traders) will do the pumping and
when the value is on its peak the dumping team will sell their huge amount of token that will makes a huge decrease on its value and at the end other parties including the bounty hunters and other hodler of token will be at the edge to do dumping cover some losses.
They make lots of requirements to stall time in order to make a perfect control on the market.Well the bounty manager is not really the one to blame on these because he/she are only managing the campaigns accordingly on the order given by the higher ups.

As of now we must endure these kind of treatment these will pass soon and I'm getting used to it just be patient and soon you will gain the fruit of your effort.

If you are into joining bounties from any body you will eventually promote projects that are hash like this, they will delay probably for years and they will keep postponing payment over and over, it's a wise choice to follow good bounty managers that takes no nonsense from any project team