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Before we get in to this I feel it's important that everyone understands the subject a little bit.

I'll find a case that will make it clear for everyone what living with depression is like, especially as compared to not having to live with it.

Ok. I remember watching a documentary that had the perfect case. But I can't find it.
My recollection of it follows. (I watched it 8+ years ago)
We see twin girls, one started showing signs of depression at a young age. While the other twin lead a normal happy existence the other couldn't even get out of bed.

Depression is not simply being sad for a while, not even being sad for a long after someone dies. Depression can steal away years of productivity and growth. It can lead to suicidal thoughts thousands of times a day for months on end. I'm not an expert medical professional so I can't define it much more concisely than that.

I trust that many of us on this forum have struggled with depression at one time or another. Some chronically. It also doesn't seem like there is an easy fix for it.

I've heard it called the black dog. I'm really fond of that expression. Right now, looks like I'm getting another extended visit from him.

The biggest problem I face is that I let things pile on. Everything. I'll let the dishes pile on. My room will just become dirtier and dirtier. Car maintenance to the absolute minimum. I'll even leave some funds on exchanges. So even if I can snap out of it for a little bit it's not easy for me to be happy because I can't put things to normal in that short time.

Sometimes I hope a natural disaster will come and wipe the slate clean, so that when I'm ready to be happy again, I won't have to deal with the mess I've made in my life.

Edit:

One thing I keep up is work. I will use a lot of energy to work hard and keep at it. I give it my all. Being depressed makes social situations more difficult. I can't find the words or keep up a conversation or connect to people while in this state. Not easily.

I can empathise with you to a certain extent. I've got a mass of historic problems to sort out. You just need to do something every day, and you will find that you will gradually get on top of things. If you are felling particularly low, then just do a couple of easy jobs. You need to keep your environment clean, and don't let the dishes mount up. Instead of getting a clean plate for your next meal, wash up the one from the last meal and use that. This mrans you will never have a mountain of dirty dishes to face.

The money left on exchanges is a bit more interesting, and it is something I have done in the past. I worked out that I was doing it as a form of security, as I felt that the money was always there if I needed it. Bitcoin has helped me with that. Now, I collect the money, and I buy some Bitcoin to save as my security. If you do this regularly, you can cheer yourself up by checking your wallet balance.

The covid lock downs are causing problems with depression as well. If you need some social interaction, you can always start or enter into some social discussion on the off-topic board here. A few of them can be quite interesting. Another thing to do is to start a new project, and this is why I hosted the domain Rag St, and I hope to develop that into a sellers introduction site.

I know it's hard to overcome such feeling of being depressed. I agree that at one point, most of us experienced that feeling, whatever the reason is. But one thing I learn is, take one day at a time. Look for reason/s to live. Gather yourself. Think positively even if you feel hopeless. Do one thing at a time, if you will think of things that you need to do, I know you will feel overwhelmed. Slowly accomplish things that you need to do. No one is pushing you to complete those tasks at once. Appreciate small things that you have.

there are mutliple types of depression. there is however 2 main umbrella categories.
biological depression, situational depression

thnigs like PTSD is situational. where your depression is triggered by experiences and memories.
biological depression is where your body malfunctions to cause the mood change.

i know some people say 'just distract yourself' or 'just do something' 'try exercising' but this is not good broad advice
if you can figure out the cause of it and work on recognising the triggers and then work on affecting the triggers to no longer overwhelm you. you can then start to lead a better life which then cycles around to improve things

take for instance the inability to maintain your house.
in some cases it might be a mobility issue that stops you leaving your house, stops you cleaning the house and getting into this rutt then triggers the situational depression
it may be having to get the energy to clean the house to improve the situation. help might be to get some disability support of a cleaner popping around to help you. that improves the situation

other things like having memory/concentration span issues where one minute your planning on cleaning. then you forget/get distracted and hours later you realise that you didnt do what you planned. which then affects how you feel and makes your situation worse
other things like hormonal issues affect your mood by making you not care about things around you. which then cycles around

so getting advice to 'just get on with it' aint good. instead on your clear days try to work out the cause-effect and get to the root of the problem. then try to get a plan of how to handle certain situations.
sometimes it can be as simple as a calender reminder on your computer to prompt you to do something. sometimes it can be making chores into games. like if you do some housework then you can reward yourself with a treat. or to get someone in to help you.
as for the biological malfunction. maybe its worth asking the doctor about your specific issues and then say the words 'dont give me the first medication your thinking of. can you find something more specific'
some hormonal disorders are where your body is not making the 'happy hormones' and some meds are not the happy hormones themselves but other ingredients that would trigger the happy hormone. which in some cases just wont work or require high dosages of it to trigger the natural hormone release.
so try to find the right type of meds and not the generic stuff
EG normal peoples seratonin is triggered by chocolate, turkey, salmon. but they dont have seratonin in them they have tryptophen which your body if working right converts to seratonin
so if chocolate/turkey doesnt give you that relaxed 'food coma' state where you go for a nap and feel good. then its a sign your body is not converting things into hormones.

if your already on meds and your not feeling the benefits. then updosing may not help either. ask for a different med to try.
if your issue is your depression is making you forget/not care to take the meds. then you need to find that routine whether it be reminders or a person prompting you. just to stop you from cycling into worse state

but the secret to everything is to try working out the cause-effect at the root of it

Depression may lead to suicide, most of young people are the victims,  like those who are bullied in school, or a person who cant give the expectation of thier parents.

I can vouch to this subject for depression. As an Engineering Student, I've encountered great amount of hardships with my subjects. The stress, and the financial amount needed for my projects is really tough to acquire. There are few times in this hardships that I myself wanted to give in my inner self telling me to die in different ways but my mind wanted to do it with no pain.

Aside from these times in my college life, all the years from when I was in JHS up to SHS, I've been struggling in different stress. (1) my mother was diagnosed with brain tumor. (2) My father tried to move away, and step away from any financial duties. (3) I've been ressetled to my grandmother where my uncle was pissed cause "We take advantage from them". and lastly, (4) I've been bullied for having a broken tooth in the incisors. These struggles in my life where; I want to get away but I can't, I want to live on my own but I can't, I want to play but I can't. are part of me now.

And actually, I'm not sad or depressed anymore about this happenings because I know in myself that I've been through all of that, and now I now for sure that I can face difficulties in my life.

My secret for this is that I've read many motivational speech in spotify, and youtube, and I really set myself straight by thinking of the benefits about this. I changed my POV, and focus in the future where I envisioned myself to be a successful engineer, and a businessman.

I know that this is very hard, and I am not saying that my way can be applied to every person who are experiencing depression, but I can tell you that this depression in your life, as soon as you pass this, I'm certain that you'll become a different strong person with a very bright future.

I wish a different term could be used to describe that word and make it more decorative but less attractive or so I thought. I believe I did or so did my friends say, that I was no longer depressed! I was astonished to hear them say that to me. They said, they've always wondered what was wrong and who would rescue me! Severally, they found me by myself, withdrawn from social life as though I wasn't within their age grade and as such, saw what ever fun thing being done as child's play.
I can go on and on but, to keep it short, they said I was depressed and I really hate to think of it that way. As I strongly believe it was me being me, just liking my quite and on my own times and the rest of the world never accepted me that way. My spice was needed and I wasn't giving it. So sad.

A depressed mind will not know until your been told. When ever you find yourself withdrawn from the society and often sad, for no just course, just know that your depressed or on your way to being depressed. Seek therapy.

I've read a lot on that topic and I believe that regular exercise, sleep schedule, some hobbies activities (if possible) are far better cure than taking some pills that numb your consciousness and lead to more problems later on.

You can try all of those and depression will still persist.
In some cases medication is practically required, unless you count success as having decent quality of life like 2/10 days on average for years on end.


I still haven't found that study that I want to post on this thread but it's always in the back of my mind.

KonstantinosM,

I'm responding as someone who has experienced depression and because you used the word serious depression.

I like that Franky1 pointed out "biological" and "situational".

I have not had the experience of depression coming out of nowhere to interrupt my perfectly happy life: Biological
Mine have been situational and typically a cluster of undeniably depressing things happening at once (3x in my lifetime)
Many people who are depressed or even suicidal may seem happy in public, while putting in the effort for that "show" can take a separate mental and physical toll.

You should know that being depressed doesn't always come with suicidal thoughts but that it can really effect your thought processes and create
continuous negative outcomes...perpetuating itself. The chemistry in your brain is different and that can be as powerful as any mind altering drug.

While self help books and positive thinking can be useful...the idea that you should be positive or happy can also be destructive.

Sometimes you need help and in hindsight I once suffered several years too long before getting it *lesson learned but it's time I can't get back.

My recommendation for anyone experiencing depression is to get help early; first a counselor and then maybe on to whatever drugs may be prescribed.
I say counselor first because many of the drugs prescribed for depression have suicide as a side effect, so having people who are keeping track of how you are reacting will be helpful if changes are necessary.

If you have people close to you maybe try to confide in one of them ------but don't be surprised when their first reaction is to try to cheer you up  ;).

Depression is really a very broad word. It is not limited to someone's grief when someone died or dying but it can be associated to failures, bullying, feeling of emptiness or the likes, and love break ups. The severity of depression varies from person to person on how they were dealing with the current cause of depression. Depression was very hard to determine on a certain person even if you know them for a long time. Their behavioral pattern might be a cue point but that is not always the case.

It's a very complicated subject.

Your advice is practically the best advice, however I have a big caveat to offer.

Depending on where you live, a counselor/psychiatrist can be more destructive then the disease in itself.

I understand this is a very controversial opinion. I do not take this lightly. I know I'll lose a lot of credibility just posting this. I have known a lot of people with mental illness, and if you read my previous post on this topic, I do believe that medication in many cases is required.

However, if you live in the United States, there are a lot of psychiatrists who just see you as another source of revenue. I have seen cases where people were put in mediocre clinics and insurance was paying out big time. Doctors that threatened patients with their freedom. Patients who tried to commit suicide because of what their doctors did. Patients being locked up because of family wanting them locked up so they could scoop up their money. Medications not prescribed but forced on patients.

If you live in the US, you have to really know a good doctor because they will try to coerce you and deprive you of your rights. For anyone that suffers that fate, on top of mental illness, losing health coverage when possible will get rid of these leeches.

Also once you out yourself as having these problems, you're giving up a lot of rights because of the stigma associated with it.



Also as with any mental illness each individuals experience may vary. I assume even people who aren't depressed contemplate suicide sometimes. While some people with depression have that though repeat in their head thousands of times a day, for months on end. They make plans and get careless with their life, because in their head it's over.

When opening this topic up, I was certain I'd find the study I was looking for. Unfortunately, I can't. Perhaps nobody posted it on YouTube or I need to know the exact name. I remember the professor who showed me this, but it's been many years, and I don't have any sort of relationship with him, and he probably wouldn't even remember it.

But it's such a powerful thing to witness, the power of depression. How two identical twins are changed so much. So many important aspects of it illuminated clearly enough for anyone to grasp them. Even without personal experience.

Failing to demonstrate what depression really is. I don't really want to go past it. I wouldn't have even opened this topic had I realized I could not find the clips from that study.

I'll leave this post with someone talking about their depression in a funny an entertaining but also illuminating way.

Video Title: I want(ed) to die
Source: Jreg (YouTube Channel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7v7HvNjm5E

Even at the start he talks about this video potentially harming his job prospects in the future. Also he's a perfect example of people who may appear happy on the outside.

Absolutely.

Here's a few things:
Yes there can be stigmas attached but what about living with the weight and often dull darkness of depression?
And yes, the state of mental health in our country is in shambles, just look around on the streets and in the news.

 
thinking of suicide over and over is suicidal ideation and while is may not always lead to suicide as a result, the thought pattern isn't healthy.
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
Hours: Available 24 hours
800-273-8255

My mother was diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic, she was committed 2x and forced onto medications. Her perspective of being medicated was that of being poisoned and having her thoughts controlled--who could argue with that, there's some truth in it. I was in foster care by age 13 with my little brother. It has been about 5 years since last speaking to her, she has continued to lose much and suffer greatly by her own mind.

Getting a good counselor could be a challenge and yes that is their profession and way to make a living so be conscious of that not deterred from getting help.

Sounds like an interesting documentary (I'm a bit of a Doc junkie :-))

Is it this one...

Trapped By My Twin (Mental Health Documentary) | Real Stories

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Q21AljzHpcY&ab_channel=RealStories

P.S. watched your link
It's slightly manic for my taste but I'm old so things are better slow for me.
:-)
he makes a good point at around 11mins "don't fall in love with your depression"

No, it's not that one. I've probably described it a few times already. The subjects are two girls, twins. White and blonde, probably aged around 12-14. One got depressed and the other didn't. Their lives diverged so much.

The depressed one was practically bedridden with no energy to do anything. While the other thrived and lived a normal life. It's a stark comparison when you see it in children. One having a normal happy childhood while the other suffers. In the very same home even with mostly the same body and starting from the same point.

You could also clearly tell that the healthy one really loved the depressed one but there was nothing she could do for her sister.

I saw it in a Psych 101 class. I think it's just not available online. Probably never got published like that.

 
I'm also a huge doc junkie. but I don't think I'll ever find it again. I guess to find it you'd have to look through every study that is done on the genetics of mental illness conducted on twins. It's doable, but not easily.

Maybe it only ever got distributed on DVD, maybe it's behind a paywall or on a streaming site.

from what you have said. the teens in your scenario seem to differ due to a situational depression in one
although living together. one girl may have had a bad experience and she is not communicating/dealing with it. so bottling it up in secret which is causing the experience trauma to cycle around and worsen

the question of medication is more about the type of medication as i discussed before.
some medications are not the happy chemicals. but other chemicals that trigger the bodies happy glands.
these dont always work with people that have that gland malfunction.
these dont always work if person are too depressed to remember to take them
these might cause the happiness but dont remove the negative experience thoughts/memories
in some cases these can if already contemplating suicide make you "happy" to commit to suicide
happy pills wont remove situational memories, they can make you happier to care less about situation memories

trying to find the root cause is so much better than trying to mask the effects, because as explained those masks are not always effective. especially if using the wrong mask for the occassion

.. as for your own descriptions where it appears you do not value psychiatry and finding plausible excuses in the training/capitalist nature of US healthcare to avoid seeking support.

try not to find excuses to avoid support. i dont mean just in healthcare. but in things like just googling things.
even at home you can try to remember the last time you felt depression free. and work out if there was a physical accident involving an injury or was there a situation.
look at what triggers you. is it hearing a particular sound or smell or being in a particular place. is it certain people. is it just reaccuring memories, is it non specific just unpredictable bad and goodish days
write down your triggers.
if its like a paranoia/anxiety of people. psychiatrists will(if trained well) teach you techniques to not let your paranoia of a 2 minute social activity spiral into hours of mentally thinking about it.

like being on a public bus. if you think someone is looking at you. if that usually makes you wonder about their thoughts about you for the rest of your day. learn techniques like. when people get off the bus everyones thoughts are about what they will do in a store/work. they forgot about who was on the bus with them. then you should think about what you want to do when you get of the bus. forgetting about who was on the bus
its not easy to remind yourself of this on the bus situations. but practice makes perfect

if you can work out your triggers you can work out techniques to cut those triggers short.

Interesting subject.

First off USA medicine is very profit oriented. So if you live in the USA 🇺🇸 and you have real true mental illness like depression it will be hard to help yourself.

Just answer this question did you ever want to hurt yourself? Yes To any USA based doctor and you could

have a lot of ‘treatment’ forced upon you in the name of helping you.

But it you are really depressed you most likely need medical help.

The nicest dog I have ever know was a black dog.

The second best dog I have ever know was a black dog.

To think that depression is the black dog very likely  means you are suffering big time.

I don’t know where you live but find some online talk site designed for depressed people.

Good luck.

The cure for depression is hope.Without hope there is despair but false hope crushes the spirit as false hope is but a lie.To understand that to have ones physical health,no torment from grief through loss of a loved one,loss of ones dignity,loss of ones earnings,poverty,spouse through infidelity (transgressors of the law cause misery to many and by their actions such depression on their victims/example theft of ones property can lead to depression for the victim while a person living an ungodly life can become a victim themselves of folly and destructive behavior that leads to addiction and despair)..makes you luckier than most would give oneself a better perspective of where they are at but depression can be caused through a whole range of other complex issues too but at the end of the day it is hope that brings solace and the less complex you make life the easier it is to find hope.

If one can find happiness in the simplicity of life and understand that a human's life on this earth is lived in the literal blink of an eye then they may be able to find that hope in knowing that ALL suffering ends at the end of their short life for them but taking one's life as a solution to escape depression is a false dichotomy.

Although I am among scoffers and unbelievers and I am no monk,priest,prophet,angel or expert on such matters I would advise anyone who has lost all hope to find it renewed in the gospel and have their dignity and sense of worth as a human being restored.Your human life is very short in this world and becoming selfless and carefree as to the opinions of your societal peers in achieiving true wisdom through such selflessness will bring untold satisfaction as every tool nescessary will be at your disposal if you have the courage to pursue this path.....It could be FAR worse.One could have to endure endless days in this God forsaken world without any hope of rest knowing FAR worse awaits :)

Philipma1957,
Someone dear to me used that phrase for years (they were depressed).

To leave technical terms out: it just flat out f'n sucks that many people suffer in silence and that the topic of depression alone can make people squirmy.

Many people are uncomfortable even feeling sad while suffering a loss and for sure expressing it to another human can be risky just on the basis of not knowing their capacity to simply allow you to be sad, so if we are not good with the things most of us will experience in a lifetime (like the loss of the loved one) it follows that generally people may not be comfortable or skilled enough to deal with the gravity (weighty thing) of depression.
Kate Spade and Anthony Bourdain seemed like people who had everything to live for.


hornetsnest,
yes, people can find comfort in religion: a love for Jesus got me through many dark days (especially when I was pissed off at God decades ago).
It felt like gravity, no joy, for sure hope was a hopeless prospect and at the time: so much guilt for the ingratitude I felt towards being alive.

Deep depression can be like a black hole, devouring the light of your soul and everything around it into it...

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/styles/side_image/public/cygx1_ill_0.jpg?itok=i-wm1p2p


Talking about it brings it out of darkness.

"Someday you will see the light at the end of the tunnel and it won't be a train" ;-)

https://youtu.be/ixqVlWrHmyw



It’s called “if my brain had morning meetings” this is part 3 really funny and priceless when she calls it a “symphony of destruction”....don’t miss the end “murder hornets” ect

Every one has in one stage experience or will experience depression. Some people will describe depression as a sickness that affects the mind. It is a disorder that can result in unending sadness and a lack of interest. If you are depressed, please talk to someone about it. (A professional preferably)

Did you read through the thread?

Anyway, I'll disagree with that, not everyone will experience clinical depression at some stage in their life. Perhaps a deep sadness, perhaps boredom, maybe the odd suicidal thought here and there.

Clinical depression is a different animal all together.


This has also been discussed previously in the thread and there's a lot more nuance to be had about that aspect of the topic.

If you're doing this for a sig-campaign understand that Serious Discussion doesn't count towards your post-count.

In most cases the "cure" for depression comes from dealing with the very "issues" that are causing such misery. For example: If you were rich yesterday and the stock market takes a dump on you right down to Chinatown and today you are eating from the dumpster outside McDonalds there is no doubt the majority who suffered this fate would have a severe case of depression.Incidents,occurences,traumas and other such things that lower self worth and perceived value are the cause of depression.Only in extraordinary cases is the root cause due to chemical imbalances or deformaties and injuries so the patient should be given help in the area that increases hope and joy in their lives before turning to medication which eventually leads to noting other than addiction,organ damage and a psychological crutch that will never allow them to walk without it.

Indeed, Depressions don't have specific symptoms that will helps us define if a person is in the state of depression as each individual has their own specific roots of problem that cause this in the first place, they also have the specific way to deal with them. But the way they deal with them wasn't always enough as they might be only scratching the surface of the problem. So little sensitivity and patience are always needed in helping the patients suffering from depressions. There is no easy route in psychological problems, it will always be rough and a long road.

Not really, I've had times in my life that were really harsh, were I was not only not depressed but also profoundly happy.

And this is not a unique experience.

And then I've had times were money was plentiful, I had really good food and a clean bedroom with good A/C and the ability to go out and I was very badly depressed.

External circumstances can affect people's mood and can affect a person's mental health but they're separate from it. A chemical imbalance is most often the root cause. It's not up to the person being depressed. Nobody wants to be depressed.

If that wasn't the case how could you explain rich and famous people who commit suicide? People like Chester Bennington from Linkin Park for example?

It is said he had many issues which led to his depression as have many high net worth individuals who have commited suicide after depression caused by effects of infidelity,gambling,substance abuse,social isolation,illness etc.

As someone who has dealt with / is dealing with PTSD and depression.
1) Seek medical advice. Medication can help.
2) Tell people that care about you how you feel. It is difficult but helps them understand your mood or demeanor.
3) Focus on people that you care about. Look at ways of making THEM happy. Happiness can be infectious.
4) Get a dog.  ( Research the breed so it suits your personality and lifestyle ). Dogs are emotional beings but also live a simple life. It takes very little effort to make them happy and they can be immensely loyal.
5) Exercise and get plenty of sunlight.

there are different types of depression
some are (e)nvironmental and some are (b)iological

EB    Major Depression.
BB    Persistent Depressive Disorder.
BB    Bipolar Disorder.
EE    Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)
BB    Psychotic Depression.
BB    Peripartum (Postpartum) Depression.
BB    Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD)
EE    'Situational'

5/14 is environmental triggered
9/14 is biological triggered
(my estimation. not official)

I would like to ask the people here if you have heard of patients having issues with depression and went to a doctor to get the treatment he needs to combat it. He was diagnosed an antidepressant and he thought that would end his problems with his anxiety and depression. But doing that was his biggest mistake of his life because in time the medicine that he is taking is making him dependent on it that everytime he stops it, he experiences very serious issues with mood swings, paranoia, shortness of breath and always in the alert sense that he does not want to live with those kinds of feelings.

I want to know if there are persons here in this forum who has experienced that and was able to get out free from it.

I know people who are experiencing the same things as you said, basically, these are sleeping pills which is kind of additive and kills the body organs on very slow phase but once they made the medicine for their regular sleep then they cannot sleep without it anymore and its actually done by the doctors for business purposes.

Some kind of depressions are actually by man-made which can be resolved with the help of counseling and also there are some natural sleeping pills which can promote the sleep but the user itself need to realize they need to end this.

I've been in this stage and came out of it, got back into it and have experienced whatever you said and true, these are all facts and not just a myth. While, I was seeing a lecture the other day that explained how this pessimistic and optimistic attitude can swing and how our purpose of life in our mindset for a tangible cause can greatly affect it, while working and keeping busy is just putting away the symptoms away, the cause can be greatly wiped if one tries to find meaning and purpose in their life!

Currently struggling*

Before the pandemic hits, life dealt me series of massive blows and piling up till where I'm now. It seems all hope is lost and I want to claw my way back to a peaceful, fulfilling and happy life but to no avail. I've been bearing it all for almost 5 years now and circumstances are weighing me down.

1. 2016 - 2017 [Failure in Studies] ; I was debarred from my university for not maintaining a good grade.
2. 2017 - 2018 [Exit Scam] ; I was involved in signature campaigns, pre-sales and bounties. One of my holdings went to the moon at the peak swing of BTC in 2017 and before the crash I was able to make money but sadly most of my holdings went to $0 when BTC started crashing down. Primarily, the founder of the token exited by selling his token through a backdoor access in Kucoin. My portfolio went from $600,000 to $0.
3. 2018 - 2019 [Death of a love one]; My son died. 7 months into pregnancy with regular and frequent check up (twice a week) and the doctors don't have any idea what caused his death since we are monitoring my wife's pregnancy with extreme caution yet a disaster struck. Puzzling and broken we press on.
4. 2019 - 2020 [Struggling for hope]; With the announcement of lockdown I felt too much trapped and cramped. During this 3-6 month period I wasn't able to be at ease. I felt anxious as the day progress. Even till now that even most shops are open and the public are encourage to take vaccine. The mentally stress it caused is a traumatic. I'm having panic attacks and suicidal tendencies. Yes, my wife sees me as a happy husband and my family thinks I got it all right but deep inside I'm barely holding on.

Being anonymous is a good thing since I can share everything to you without a single hint judgement. Thank you for this thread.

Depression itself is a sickness of the mind,One can get depressed maybe after seeing life in a negative direction and it effect on man include madness,hypertension and so on.It is a sickness that has no cure and can only be treated with anti depressant which is music,laughter and reading of books that can ease the mind.

Almost two years of the pandemic is enough to be depressed. If the isolation will keep you thinking of the past mistakes you did, you are not the only one. If only I can rewind the time, I may really have done it. And then another problem comes when the money dried out, it's a lot more depressing when you have no job and living under your sister's basement.

I eventually stop scrolling my facebook account and only watch youtube and comedy central and find a good documentary to find something to learn. I found a new hobby where people also look for friends such as the biking community. It's good that even the old guys out there who seem to be lonely find new friends. This might also help you by just buying a NEW bike and look for a biking or hiking community.

I've spent most of my life with depression. If you are fragile and optimistic, this life makes you very sad. You start thinking about your every step. You are producing scenarios in case it happens this way or that way. Even if it's not real, you can't get rid of its effect. You don't want to get out of bed, even you don't want to eat your favorite food. You can't sleep at night, you can't wake up in the morning. You can give the best advice to your friends who are suffering same condition, however you cannot cure yourself. You feel like you are in a bottomless pit.

Until, some miracles

Sometimes it's a new lover, sometimes a new dream, sometimes change of place or view, sometimes a new goal, sometimes a burst of energy for no reason.Just knowing it will pass can be very effective when u are struggling with this mood. When im in this mood i've always push myself like someone is controlling me. I'm just putting music to background and acting like a robot. When i achived some progress the rest is coming. This is an infinite cycle I've been through so far. I need a radical change to reduce it even more, let's see when I can do it.

Some may laugh if they found out that there are people depressed but its really a serious matter. I believe everyone experience being depress once in their life. Its just a matter of how you are going to handle and face it. As for me, i always tend to remember the good old days.

Today it said that I have everything but not the peace of mind and calm. There are worries, disappointments, depression, and blood pressure. What for mahatma Gotham budha leave his empire and went to the Himalayan mountain. Why human soul always feels thirst and such kind questions rises in him, who am I, what I am. What is my reality. What is my secret? The human soul always searches to find the answer to these questions. What is the diet of the soul? Why he is sick and under depression.What works as a shield for the soul.How virtue and good deeds bless pleasure to our soul.How piety gives relief to our soul. Is a severe depression illness medically, mentally, or spiritually.
 The cause of worries, disappointments, depression and blood pressure is the distance from God.

I read your post about depression.

We are in an inevitable psychological warfare that we have all been subjected to lately. both work stress, future anxiety, and our concerns about the future of our children.. these examples can be multiplied according to people.

 The pandemic we live in has officially locked all children in their homes. I feel this clearly reflected. In fact, unfortunately, my 15-year-old son is also secretly depressed. They have an excessive consumption of food and a nervous attitude. we try every constructive method to get him out of this situation.

How can we live without getting depressed in a country where there are such difficult living conditions and where the anxiety for the future is constantly felt?

Congratulations to all the people who made it. I look forward to the sharing of my friends who have developed a method to combat it and or who have received support.

as a result,
Try to see the positive aspects of your life, and create solace in these positive aspects. Life is short and every moment is worth living.

14 Minutes of Comedians Reaffirming Mental Health Struggles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtUA0s3U4I




"It's hard being a person"  :D

I hope it feels a little easier for whoever needs it to today

Severe depression happens when someone loses all flashes of hope. In the third world countries especially, There are a lot of economic, social,& family matters. These issues create desperating groups. This is a sign of injustice in society. These desperating groups try to destroy the system of a society for their exhaustion or fall into depression. Severe depression is not an issue only in third-world countries but in the same way it is in the developed countries also.

Addition to what you said, showing a bit of love to the depressed person, kissing, good sex, good music as well trying to do things that makes you happy.
Rather than taking pills....this may eventually leed to side effects on the brain.

Joe Rogan on Suicide and Anthony Bourdain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkxGah4Kz1g

We See It Too Late - Robin Williams On The Fragile Meaning Of Life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnrVk2InT3Y

Thank you for sharing these videos. These are very informative and can help us all understand what is depression, how to perceive it, and how can we help and understand those people who are currently suffering with depression. I hope that whoever is under this pain would sought to have the will to get through the pain and fight the battles they may encounter.

Since most of you are men on the site I'll try to post "Manly mens" perspectives as often as possible.
I wish us all wellness and comfort for the next year.

I recently read Dopamine Nation which was an interesting and quick read.

Huberman is a deep thinker one of my favorite podcasts so far was him and Robert Sapolsky (Why Zebras don't get ulcers and Behave)

In this one he talks openly about symptoms of depression and some of the chemistry involved

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu1FMCxoEFc&ab_channel=AndrewHuberman

There are some causes of severe depression.

(i)When someone pins unnecessary hopes on somebody and he does not meet his expectations as a result there creates a disappointing situation. So try to avoid such conditions. Do not have so much expectation to a human.

(ii)If you are fell in someone's love and failed to get her then also the situation is very delicate and awkward.

(iii)It is fact that God does not give pain and grief to someone more than his capacity. So you should show your
     patience and tolerance and the matter should not go to suicide.
(iv) Human is, at last, a human, a weak creature in some matters, he can not come to meet someone
       Expectations at all times completely. So don't have very high expectations of someone except God.
(v)Stop worrying and start living, Sharing happiness, and learning to keep others happy.
(vi) Always meet others with smiling faces.

Severe depression,that sickness nwed to fight and be strong,best way is to pray and FOUNDATION ALWAYS is God.If someonw you know that suffering depression,help them and talk to them to express there feelings and listen there problems so you can advice them and help to find solutions there problems.

The fact that major depression can be life-threatening due to an increased risk of suicide underscores the urgent need for improved, faster-acting antidepressant therapy. Recent studies have shown that ketamine, a drug formerly known as an anesthetic, can relieve depression in many patients within hours.

When some people are depressed they cannot engage on the any of the activities you mentioned. They just feel like leaving this world. I think the best thing to do is to speak to someone about the issue or if possible seek medical attention. Depression leads to hopelessness and when someone is hopeless suicide is the next stage. 

that is true - depression is a silent killer.
It kills without letting other be aware that they are being victim. In our county depression is not been taken as a disease. That is one of the reason people try to recover themselves. suicide  rate is very low in our country though!

One of the ways to overcome depression is to always be around people communicating. Staying idle can also bring more depression. Depression has become something that takes life so quick.

Depression can make one feel so alone and suicide will seem the best and easy way out. Some peeps who are passing through depression just need to be monitored and shown love and care.

Depression is a serious issue - most of the time we are depress for three reasons - love, money and family
And at times our health issues brings in depression when it is incurable and untreatebale