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Title: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Pffrt on October 04, 2020, 01:20:30 AM
I know about sportsbet.io but I'm not thinking of going with them. What I'm looking for is which bookies allow gambling with stablecoin? Please name a few of them. I used to gamble with BTC but now I have a plan to make some sure profit which is impossible without stablecoin. By the way, it's not a strategy. I will be another form of bookies and make profit. That's why I need to place bets with stablecoin.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: boyptc on October 04, 2020, 01:57:05 AM
Playbetr accepts stablecoins.

--> https://www.playbetr.com/best-stablecoin-casino

I can't see the logo below though but it's written that they are supporting it.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Yogee on October 04, 2020, 02:00:10 AM
- Betnomi
- Bitsler
- FortuneJack
- BitCasino.io

adding more:
- Chips.gg

I'm sure there are more gambling sites accepting USDT that are not popular in the forum.
 
.... I used to gamble with BTC but now I have a plan to make some sure profit which is impossible without stablecoin. By the way, it's not a strategy. I will be another form of bookies and make profit. That's why I need to place bets with stablecoin.
Price fluctuations goes both ways. It can be against or in your favor when it comes to its USD value. If this is about the withdrawal fee charges, there are other cryptocurrencies with cheaper fees too. Moving USDT (erc20) is a bit expensive due to eth's network congestion and it's sometimes higher than btc.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Darker45 on October 04, 2020, 03:50:50 AM
Cloudbet is accepting USDT.

I'm a little bit curious why you won't bet on sportsbet.

adding more:
- Chips.gg

Does chips.gg offer sports betting? Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think chips.gg is a sportsbook. It's a casino. But, yes, I read it also accepts USDT.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Yogee on October 04, 2020, 04:03:50 AM
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adding more:
- Chips.gg

Does chips.gg offer sports betting? Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think chips.gg is a sportsbook. It's a casino. But, yes, I read it also accepts USDT.
I'm expecting someone would notice. I've added it to the list in advance. Yes, they don't have sportsbook at the moment but I read in their thread that they are planning to add it. If you're interested, they're also inviting some beta testers once it's ready https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277365.msg55291835#msg55291835


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Pffrt on October 04, 2020, 04:16:47 AM
Moving USDT (erc20) is a bit expensive due to eth's network congestion and it's sometimes higher than btc.
I don't need to move fund from site. Once I will deposit there, it will be there as long as I don't need a lot of cash. I will be another form of bookie for a group of people as they had no idea how crypto works. I can use their money to pay them while I will only deposit a sum in the bookie. Well, this will an experiment basis.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Yogee on October 04, 2020, 04:41:47 AM
...... I will be another form of bookie for a group of people as they had no idea how crypto works. I can use their money to pay them while I will only deposit a sum in the bookie. Well, this will an experiment basis.
The bookie part in your first post wasn't so clear to me.

Does it work like this?
You'll deposit USDT to casinos > they will give their odds and pay you in fiat > you'll enter their picks using your own funds.
If they win, you pay them back in fiat less your commission as their bookie.

I'm assuming these are your friends too. Good luck with your experiment.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Darker45 on October 04, 2020, 04:54:24 AM
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adding more:
- Chips.gg

Does chips.gg offer sports betting? Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think chips.gg is a sportsbook. It's a casino. But, yes, I read it also accepts USDT.
I'm expecting someone would notice. I've added it to the list in advance. Yes, they don't have sportsbook at the moment but I read in their thread that they are planning to add it. If you're interested, they're also inviting some beta testers once it's ready https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277365.msg55291835#msg55291835

That's good to hear as many gambling sites are now a combination of a casino and a bookmaker at the same time. That's better gambling experience to their clients. Of your list, I guess Betnomi and Bitsler are newcomers to this combo thing.

...... I will be another form of bookie for a group of people as they had no idea how crypto works. I can use their money to pay them while I will only deposit a sum in the bookie. Well, this will an experiment basis.
The bookie part in your first post wasn't so clear to me.

Does it work like this?
You'll deposit USDT to casinos > they will give their odds and pay you in fiat > you'll enter their picks using your own funds.
If they win, you pay them back in fiat less your commission as their bookie.

I'm assuming these are your friends too. Good luck with your experiment.

I'm smelling a game of odds here. I think OP would be accepting bets from friends with lower odds and then place them on gambling sites offering higher odds. Been there done that. Offline, and especially among friends and peers, the betting odds is usually 2.0. The same money could be placed as bets on bookies offering higher odds, say 2.40 or 2.50 or 2.70 and so on.

I'm just guessing. I could be wrong. ;)

Good luck with your experiment, OP!


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: BITCOIN4X on October 04, 2020, 05:06:02 AM
- Betnomi
- Bitsler
- FortuneJack
- BitCasino.io

adding more:
- Chips.gg
It look like this answer already represents the OP's need. I'm not used to gambling with stable coin like USDT and I probably won't because gambling is no different from fiat. I love crypto gambling because it can help me maintain my privacy and appear anonymous. I no longer need to make deposit from a bank account in my own name because I can do it with my crypto wallet. Regarding crypto price volatility, I don't think gambling should think about volatility (in number). But if op think about its value then a stable coin is another option to keep its value.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Pffrt on October 04, 2020, 05:39:34 AM
I'm smelling a game of odds here. I think OP would be accepting bets from friends with lower odds and then place them on gambling sites offering higher odds.
No, it will be commission based. I will give them the same odd as bookies give me like as what Yogee said. But games of odd is also possible. Well I will give that a try too.
BITCOIN4X, If I bet with BTC or other crypto, chance us I will go bankruptcy once BTC crashes significantly. That's why I'm taking stablecoin here.
As I have got the solution, locking the thread.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: bobyhodob on October 04, 2020, 08:51:17 AM
Moving USDT (erc20) is a bit expensive due to eth's network congestion and it's sometimes higher than btc.
I don't need to move fund from site. Once I will deposit there, it will be there as long as I don't need a lot of cash. I will be another form of bookie for a group of people as they had no idea how crypto works. I can use their money to pay them while I will only deposit a sum in the bookie. Well, this will an experiment basis.
It is better indeed to multiply the assets at the gambling place when the current conditions of transaction fees are increasing expensive, because there are gambling establishments that provide such features and can get a lot of money without having to gamble.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Ryker1 on October 04, 2020, 09:15:30 AM
Moving USDT (erc20) is a bit expensive due to eth's network congestion and it's sometimes higher than btc.
I don't need to move fund from site. Once I will deposit there, it will be there as long as I don't need a lot of cash. I will be another form of bookie for a group of people as they had no idea how crypto works. I can use their money to pay them while I will only deposit a sum in the bookie. Well, this will an experiment basis.
Well, that is interesting experiments. But I think you need some more funds or USDT to cover their bets into bookies.
Can you please give some update on this thread of what is the reult of your experiment, --I will try this when I have enough fund as a capital. This is good if you have a friends that are very oftenly placing bet offline with group of people, --just like placing bet of the result of NBA game.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: UmerIdrees on October 04, 2020, 09:29:18 AM
I know about sportsbet.io but I'm not thinking of going with them. What I'm looking for is which bookies allow gambling with stablecoin? Please name a few of them. I used to gamble with BTC but now I have a plan to make some sure profit which is impossible without stablecoin. By the way, it's not a strategy. I will be another form of bookies and make profit. That's why I need to place bets with stablecoin.

If you need to bet with stable coins, it would be better you bet with fiat money with the local bookies.  You can get much better rates with local bookies.

Also i don't see how one cannot make profit from bitcoin betting and can make profit from stable coins in betting  ???


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Russlenat on October 04, 2020, 11:30:40 AM
I know about sportsbet.io but I'm not thinking of going with them. What I'm looking for is which bookies allow gambling with stablecoin? Please name a few of them. I used to gamble with BTC but now I have a plan to make some sure profit which is impossible without stablecoin. By the way, it's not a strategy. I will be another form of bookies and make profit. That's why I need to place bets with stablecoin.

If you need to bet with stable coins, it would be better you bet with fiat money with the local bookies.  You can get much better rates with local bookies.
I guess there's a different, in local bookies you are required with KYC, in crypto sportsbook, you are not.

Also i don't see how one cannot make profit from bitcoin betting and can make profit from stable coins in betting  ???

With your skills in betting you'll have a good winning percentage but volatility is another risk.
Say for example, you are already up 30% from your initial bankroll, but bitcoin drop 50% overnight, that would hurt you as what you have work hard for the past few days, weeks or months have only dump in just 24 hours, so probably that kind of possibility is what OP is trying to avoid.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: stadus on October 04, 2020, 11:31:43 AM
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adding more:
- Chips.gg

Does chips.gg offer sports betting? Please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think chips.gg is a sportsbook. It's a casino. But, yes, I read it also accepts USDT.
I'm expecting someone would notice. I've added it to the list in advance. Yes, they don't have sportsbook at the moment but I read in their thread that they are planning to add it. If you're interested, they're also inviting some beta testers once it's ready https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277365.msg55291835#msg55291835

Therefore it's not included yet, only those gambling sites who are actively accepting USDT has to be listed here so it will not confuse us. I like the idea of OP to use USDT, maybe he is kinda serious with sports betting because volatility would risk your money's value even though you are winning most of the time, this is very helpful if you are gambling with some decent amount in sports betting.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: khaled0111 on October 04, 2020, 02:02:06 PM
This is a smart idea. It will ensure you a passive income regardless of the bets results. Therefore, I encourage you to start working on it as fast as possible.
I was thinking of starting a similar business but I gave up because it was impossible to compete with local bookies allowing deposits with our local currency.

Just before you lock the thread as you already got a good list from the comments above, I wanted to add that you should choose the sportsbook that have the best promotions (deposit bonuses, cashbacks, VIP program...), this will be like an extra income, the more you bet the more you win.
Also think of how to make accepting bets and calculating the profits automated so things don't become messy.
Good luck!


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: freedomgo on October 04, 2020, 02:19:27 PM
Moving USDT (erc20) is a bit expensive due to eth's network congestion and it's sometimes higher than btc.
I don't need to move fund from site. Once I will deposit there, it will be there as long as I don't need a lot of cash. I will be another form of bookie for a group of people as they had no idea how crypto works. I can use their money to pay them while I will only deposit a sum in the bookie. Well, this will an experiment basis.
Quite interesting, but isn't it risky on your part? you are like financing or running your own gambling platform here without a license. One of your possible bettors could report you to the authorities and they can witness against you, I know there's an opportunity, but look at the risk also.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: sarmrakib on October 04, 2020, 02:33:24 PM
I know about sportsbet.io but I'm not thinking of going with them. What I'm looking for is which bookies allow gambling with stablecoin? Please name a few of them. I used to gamble with BTC but now I have a plan to make some sure profit which is impossible without stablecoin. By the way, it's not a strategy. I will be another form of bookies and make profit. That's why I need to place bets with stablecoin.
I use Bitsler to do my gamble by stable coin .You can use it and also fortunejack is a good bookie .Hope you will have good gamble on their by stable coin .


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: sportbettor on October 06, 2020, 08:23:45 AM
I know about sportsbet.io but I'm not thinking of going with them. What I'm looking for is which bookies allow gambling with stablecoin? Please name a few of them. I used to gamble with BTC but now I have a plan to make some sure profit which is impossible without stablecoin. By the way, it's not a strategy. I will be another form of bookies and make profit. That's why I need to place bets with stablecoin.
You can find the List of TOP 20 Cryptocurrency Sportsbooks here: http://sportstatist.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Reatim on October 06, 2020, 09:01:34 AM
I know about sportsbet.io but I'm not thinking of going with them. What I'm looking for is which bookies allow gambling with stablecoin? Please name a few of them. I used to gamble with BTC but now I have a plan to make some sure profit which is impossible without stablecoin. By the way, it's not a strategy. I will be another form of bookies and make profit. That's why I need to place bets with stablecoin.
You can find the List of TOP 20 Cryptocurrency Sportsbooks here: http://sportstatist.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/

Dont click this accounts link because this is what says in his RedTag

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1050506

This one is just spreading his site and risky to click.


OP there are many offers of site that you can use different coins just one click away from the internet.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: imstillthebest on October 06, 2020, 09:48:38 AM
Moving USDT (erc20) is a bit expensive due to eth's network congestion and it's sometimes higher than btc.
I don't need to move fund from site. Once I will deposit there, it will be there as long as I don't need a lot of cash. I will be another form of bookie for a group of people as they had no idea how crypto works. I can use their money to pay them while I will only deposit a sum in the bookie. Well, this will an experiment basis.
Quite interesting, but isn't it risky on your part? you are like financing or running your own gambling platform here without a license. One of your possible bettors could report you to the authorities and they can witness against you, I know there's an opportunity, but look at the risk also.

if this is against the rule of gambling site its risky but if im the gambling site ill allow such play because this is still an income from me and i must be happy because he will deposit big funds  .

it will be a win win situation for him and to the gambling owner , also on the people that will trust thier money on this guy as long as he is good at betting . he wont be reported by his clients because they wanted this to happen at the first place .


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: harizen on October 06, 2020, 09:03:58 PM
Quite interesting, but isn't it risky on your part? you are like financing or running your own gambling platform here without a license. One of your possible bettors could report you to the authorities and they can witness against you, I know there's an opportunity, but look at the risk also.

It will only happen if OP will do some sh*t against them e.g no payment, run away with the funds, etc.

As far as those bettors are concern, surely they know what OP is offering to them. It's just that they don't know how crypto betting works.

I don't see how OP will able to profit from doing that since he needs to show betslips for references so he can't fake the odds. The only way to get profit is to get some percentage to his bettors' winnings. For how much, I won't bother to know it.


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: JEFE92 on October 06, 2020, 10:21:53 PM
I know about sportsbet.io but I'm not thinking of going with them. What I'm looking for is which bookies allow gambling with stablecoin? Please name a few of them. I used to gamble with BTC but now I have a plan to make some sure profit which is impossible without stablecoin. By the way, it's not a strategy. I will be another form of bookies and make profit. That's why I need to place bets with stablecoin.

Hi,

For a long time I'm placing my bets at Thunderpick.com (https://thunderpick.com?r=JEFE92) and Pinnacle.com (https://www.pinnacle.com/en/esports/matchups/highlights/) for more than 2 years, but Thunderpick is much more comfortable imo, especially with amazing UI, these guys are working on it all the time (I hate complexed UI). They have BTC, ETH, USDT and other cryptos for deposits and withdraw (as for me it's quite enough). So it's worth to try your experience with them. Pinnacle doesn't have enough esports on site, which Thunderpick has, but still I'm placing some bets right there. So it's up to you choose, my friend. GL!  ;)

P.S. Didn't have any issues with both bookies before


Title: Re: Bookies with stablecoin
Post by: Pffrt on October 07, 2020, 02:20:54 AM
I don't see how OP will able to profit from doing that since he needs to show betslips for references so he can't fake the odds. The only way to get profit is to get some percentage to his bettors' winnings. For how much, I won't bother to know it.
There are a lot of possibilities, I can fake the odd which I have not planned yet, I can take commission. In commission, I will give them the correct odd and will charge a fee per X amount of USD and it's acceptable by most of them. No percentage in winning, imagine the odd is 1.70, in that case, for example, for betting every $100, bettor have to pay me $105 ($5 extra charge for me).
Forgot to lock the thread. Will do now.