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Title: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Amel on October 04, 2020, 03:23:00 PM
Hello @JollyGood

I don't think I'm making a big mistake. It's just that maybe the quality of my post was a little worse. Also, if there is any other mistake, please let me know, sir. If you look at my other posts you will understand that the quality in my post is not so bad. I am waiting for your reply.


Thanks

I have been given red trust from this ID
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1016855


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Vod on October 04, 2020, 03:39:37 PM
I'll weigh in.  JG is supported by 10 people who are supported by many others.

I agree that your posts do not contribute anything.



Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Amel on October 04, 2020, 03:53:03 PM
I'll weigh in.  JG is supported by 10 people who are supported by many others.

I agree that your posts do not contribute anything.




I have no doubt about your prudence. I respect you enough. I assure you not to make such a mistake in the future. I hope you will forgive my mistake and take away my red trust in my account very soon.
Thank you sir.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Vod on October 04, 2020, 04:16:03 PM
I'll weigh in.  JG is supported by 10 people who are supported by many others.

I agree that your posts do not contribute anything.




I have no doubt about your prudence. I respect you enough. I assure you not to make such a mistake in the future. I hope you will forgive my mistake and take away my red trust in my account very soon.
Thank you sir.

You just proved the OP correct.  :/


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 04, 2020, 04:20:09 PM
I looked at your posts a little and was a little surprised. What do you think it's called?


In this case, your post looks like a call to create “as many alternative accounts as possible.” Are you serious? The rules of bounty company sound in such a way that in most of them they prohibit the participation of alternative accounts.

This means that if people have second accounts, they should appear as separate profiles. Completely separate. However, managers don't even recommend that. It's just that people create more accounts to increase their earnings.


Quote
ltcbtcdigger both participated in one signature campaign

Didn't find these profiles ???



For this situation, your post resembles a call to make "however many elective records as would be prudent." Are you genuine? The guidelines of abundance organization sound so that in the vast majority of them they preclude the investment of elective records. This implies if individuals have second records, they ought to show up as isolated profiles. Totally discrete. In any case, administrators don't suggest that. It's simply that individuals make more records to expand their profit. I have seen two client Hhampuz and yahoo62278 both took an interest in one mark crusade. The venture of overseeing more than o e record and meeting the week by week portion isn't a simple errand and you may end up spamming which may decrease your odds of being acknowledged in a lucrative mission.
https://archive.st/b1kx

By chance?
And you rewrite many other people's posts like that?


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: suchmoon on October 04, 2020, 04:29:30 PM
I'll weigh in.  JG is supported by 10 people who are supported by many others.

I agree that your posts do not contribute anything.

That's not what the trust system is for.

Quote
BEWARE: "Amel" seems to be posting for the sake of posting most probably for signature campaign bounty.

I have added "Amel" to my ignore and distrust lists. I recommend you all do the same: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278797.msg55301513#msg55301513

... is not appropriate negative trust. Shitposts should be reported to moderators.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: hacker1001101001 on October 04, 2020, 04:30:08 PM

For this situation, your post resembles a call to make "however many elective records as would be prudent." Are you genuine? The guidelines of abundance organization sound so that in the vast majority of them they preclude the investment of elective records. This implies if individuals have second records, they ought to show up as isolated profiles. Totally discrete. In any case, administrators don't suggest that. It's simply that individuals make more records to expand their profit. I have seen two client Hhampuz and yahoo62278 both took an interest in one mark crusade. The venture of overseeing more than o e record and meeting the week by week portion isn't a simple errand and you may end up spamming which may decrease your odds of being acknowledged in a lucrative mission.
https://archive.st/b1kx

By chance?
And you rewrite many other people's posts like that?


Looks like use of some text spinner to me.

Yet this don't look like something which deserve a neg tag from someone like JollyGood how enjoys abusing trust.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Little Mouse on October 04, 2020, 04:38:19 PM
Wrong use of feedback system. This never deserves a negative tag. If JollyGood doesn't like his spam, he can either report the posts to moderator or simply can put the user in their ignore list (he did that although).
This is second time I'm watching JollyGood is using trust system in wrong way. Previous one was also for same reason if I'm correct. And this tag is from today  ::)


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Amel on October 04, 2020, 04:48:34 PM

... is not appropriate negative trust. Shitposts should be reported to moderators.


I also wanted to say this. Will I be given straight red trust for poor quality of a post ???




Looks like use of some text spinner to me.

Yet this don't look like something which deserve a neg tag from someone like JollyGood how enjoys abusing trust.

What kind of rule is it to give red trust only because the only one post quality is bad. I did not steal anything here. I did not do any scam.



Wrong use of feedback system. This never deserves a negative tag. If JollyGood doesn't like his spam, he can either report the posts to moderator or simply can put the user in their ignore list (he did that although).
This is second time I'm watching JollyGood is using trust system in wrong way. Previous one was also for same reason if I'm correct. And this tag is from today  ::)


Here I have not done any harm to anyone because of which I can be given red trust. I will be given red trust only because the quality of one post is bad ??? If I had made a big mistake, I would have compromised. But this is being unfair on me.


[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: The Cryptovator on October 04, 2020, 05:29:29 PM
It's quite surprising to me a Legendary user doesn't know how to quote the reply. Multiple posts in a row against forum rules. You can just merge them in a single post. To be honest, your replies on this thread are enough to mark you as a professional spammer even you don't know what should you write to whom. Your posting behavior is something like "posting to get paid". I am pretty sure if there was a merit system before you become Legendary then most probably you had to spend hundreds of years to become Legendary. I am not saying you deserve red trust for it, but your post doesn't bring any contributions to the discussion really.

@JollyGood, if you continuously leave negative feedback for spammers then most forum members will be tagged. Neutral feedback for such a case is enough, doesn't necessary to write with red that you are ignoring someone. Just click on the ignore button is sufficient, let moderators clean the forum, and help them by reporting spam. Trust system hadn't been implemented to prevent spam.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Amel on October 04, 2020, 05:34:49 PM


You just proved the OP correct.  :/

Only by determining the value of a post will you give me red trust ??? I understood what kind of rule this is. People will make mistakes. So if he makes a mistake, he should be killed ???





Looks like use of some text spinner to me.

Yet this don't look like something which deserve a neg tag from someone like JollyGood how enjoys abusing trust.

No, there is no possibility of it happening. I never copy anyone's post. Maybe he didn't like the quality of my post, that's the problem.


[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on October 04, 2020, 05:54:18 PM
I agree that your posts do not contribute anything.
That might well be true, but are we going back to the days of giving red trust to shitposters?  I thought we were all done with that when the merit system was rolled out.  Before that happened, actmyname and I were tagging shitposters left and right, but I never thought it was a good use of the trust system--but it was the only tool a DT member could use to combat them.  I definitely don't think DT (or even non-DT) members ought to be tagging shitposters. 

OP looks like he's got some other reasons he should be red tagged (like trying to buy merits), but his post quality isn't one of them IMO.

@JollyGood, if you continuously leave negative feedback for spammers then most forum members will be tagged. Neutral feedback for such a case is enough
Neutral feedback is fine, but I probably wouldn't even bother with that.  Just ignore shitposters when you come across them.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: khaled0111 on October 04, 2020, 05:58:45 PM
I agree with most of the replies above that the trust system shouldn't be used to tag spammers.
Anyway, @OP, the negative feedback left by JollyGood is the last thing you need to worry about as, now, you may get banned for plagiarism.

...
No, there is no possibility of it happening. I never copy anyone's post. Maybe he didn't like the quality of my post, that's the problem.
What about text spinners!
I used the first free text spinner I found on google to spin
lovesmayfamilis' comment and here is what I got:
https://i.imgur.com/66BQVlS.jpg
it looks ~100% identical to your post  ???


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: eddie13 on October 04, 2020, 06:01:31 PM
Maybe jg should remove it since he is about to be permabanned for plagiarism anyway..

Surprising they don’t know better than to stick their heads up by now..
Another legendary bites the dust..


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Vod on October 04, 2020, 06:10:46 PM
I agree that your posts do not contribute anything.
That might well be true, but are we going back to the days of giving red trust to shitposters?

I wouldn't, but I'm not going to waste time defending a trivial instance of a sig spammer when there is so much more abuse higher up.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: YOSHIE on October 04, 2020, 06:15:31 PM
@JollyGood, already warned you first about junk replies on the topic: Tennis: French Open 2020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278797.msg55301446#msg55301446), and you move forward again repeating the same thing in the topic: English Premier League Season: 2020/2021 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275303.msg55311916#msg55311916), you pissed him off, even though he warned you about trash retaliation, you ignore it.

Should, you shouldn't do it again after @JollyGood reminds you.



@JollyGood, I can only say a case like that is 'Neutral' I think it is more appropriate, for a warning.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 04, 2020, 06:44:26 PM
I think the neutral mark is not appropriate here.
The OP uses, like some others, paraphrasing posts and does not provide a link to the source. I did not search deeply, but I think that this is not his only such post.



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Unless the OP declares that he
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Paraphrasing text is tantamount to plagiarism.

This is very similar to one more user. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2845817


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Vod on October 04, 2020, 07:34:41 PM
I marked him with a simple neutral warning others not to hire him for sig campaigns.  I think that's fair. 


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Amel on October 04, 2020, 07:54:38 PM
@JollyGood, already warned you first about junk replies on the topic: Tennis: French Open 2020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278797.msg55301446#msg55301446), and you move forward again repeating the same thing in the topic: English Premier League Season: 2020/2021 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275303.msg55311916#msg55311916), you pissed him off, even though he warned you about trash retaliation, you ignore it.

Should, you shouldn't do it again after @JollyGood reminds you.

After receiving the warning, I did the second post well. Do you think the value of the second post is low ??? I am always trying to improve my skills in English.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: dkbit98 on October 04, 2020, 08:19:09 PM
I would not give negative feedback in this case, but maybe neutral feedback and report for his posts would be the best thing here,
but I don't think any feedback must be permanent and if OP changes his posting habits than JollyGood will remove his feedback.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Timelord2067 on October 04, 2020, 11:12:16 PM
For 90 pages Amel spoke Indonesian then stopped.  On the 9/20/2019 2:37:59 PM    password changed they changed their password and didn't post again for 2 months.  When they came back this is the quality of their posts:

Spammers are individuals who only use this forum to make money and do not care about the quality of their posts. But those who respond according to their hearts and minds, they are the ones who deserve to be here. Although bounty managers reduce the number of posts per week, do you guarantee that spammers will reduce? instead it will increase spammers because it simplifies their work. Therefore, spammers are rogue, it's useless if the bounty manager reduces the number of posts.

Now compare it to their first post here:

Hello @JollyGood

I don't think I'm making a big mistake. It's just that maybe the quality of my post was a little worse. Also, if there is any other mistake, please let me know, sir. If you look at my other posts you will understand that the quality in my post is not so bad. I am waiting for your reply.


Thanks

I have been given red trust from this ID
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1016855


... and their second post:

...
I have no doubt about your prudence. I respect you enough. I assure you not to make such a mistake in the future. I hope you will forgive my mistake and take away my red trust in my account very soon.
Thank you sir.




Amel against stops posting on the 28 January 2020, 01:01:52 and resumes posting on the 09 July 2020, 03:21:35 two days after they change their password three times in ~24 hours, the last time being: 7/3/2020 5:14:19 PM    password changed

Note the quality of writing:

Very meaningful writing you wrote. The text is so well-arranged that it is easy for newcomers to understand. I think it's a big deal to write neatly and pay attention to the grammar. No one can easily understand your twisted or messy words. Write in a few words but highlight the main meaning. Your writing will be successful only when your audience understands it very easily.

On the 18 August 2020, 16:24:17 they attept to join 9 different signature campaigns in the following 12 days.  It is in this time that I first spot the use of the word "Sir" when talking to others:

The spreadsheet is updated. Please take a look and make sure that all info is correct. If you find any issue then please knock me here/telegram @sujonali1819 (https://t.me/sujonali1819)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13r1Opy4g5-FaPUnYPCciavRo0WsoNJkHamIPmKAB4RY/edit#gid=478778819

I am not allowed sir.. I think I can be allowed but not allowed , thanks sir

The last week of September they attempt to join a further six signature campaigns, then on the first of October, their posting style changes to quoting whole blocks of text from external websites.

Conclusion:

"Amel" hasn't posted in Indonesian in the Indonesian section since they first changed their password a year ago and fell silent for two months.  It's my opinion that the account has changed hands at least twice corresponding roughly to when they recommenced posting after changing their password in Sep '19 and July '20.




I also beleive a NEUTRAL "This account may have changed hands and the post quality has been affected" would suffice.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on October 04, 2020, 11:28:02 PM
Negative trust isn't necessary if someone is shitposting otherwise if members hand it out to anyone whom they think is shitposting or spamming then it loses meaning.
When negative feedback is sent even for very small offenses then so many profiles are going to have it and a points is going to reach where people won't care if there account has negative trust or not. It becomes the new normal. Best things to do is:
1. Reporting their posts
2. Ignoring the shitposter


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Scam Exposey on October 05, 2020, 12:14:01 AM
So what happen now? Hopefully there's a sanction for DT members made a mistake for doing some irrelevant decisions here.

Because that's not fair for a forum user to get a red trust for such action which can be corrected easily.

DT position has been abuse nowadays.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Timelord2067 on October 05, 2020, 12:22:11 AM
So what happen now? Hopefully there's a sanction for DT members made a mistake for doing some irrelevant decisions here.

Because that's not fair for a forum user to get a red trust for such action which can be corrected easily.

DT position has been abuse nowadays.

This link (https://bpip.org/TrustLog) might be able to (in part) answer your question.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: HCP on October 05, 2020, 01:42:00 AM
I don't think I'm making a big mistake.
You are making a "big mistake"... it's called 'Plagiarism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism)'. ::) ::)



Plain and simple, the guy is plagiarizing with text spinners... ::) :-\

Plagiarism:
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Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: YOSHIE on October 05, 2020, 08:26:40 AM
Do you think the value of the second post is low ???
No, that's not what I mean 'low quality'.

I was thinking what did you reply in the topic of gambling, @JollyGood felt uncomfortable with your reply, I thought @JollyGood thought you didn't understand in the game you replied, that's why he warned you there.

I thought that was the problem, so @JollyGood got a little emotional and he thought you were challenging him and forbade you to post on the topic he created.

You should look for other gambling topics, that you really understand about the game to discuss it, that's what you should do before someone gets emotional, so it's not as complicated as it is today, actually the problems you are facing right now, You seek it, for yourself.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: examplens on October 05, 2020, 06:18:29 PM
Do you think the value of the second post is low ???
No, that's not what I mean 'low quality'.

I was thinking what did you reply in the topic of gambling, @JollyGood felt uncomfortable with your reply, I thought @JollyGood thought you didn't understand in the game you replied, that's why he warned you there.

I thought that was the problem, so @JollyGood got a little emotional and he thought you were challenging him and forbade you to post on the topic he created.

You should look for other gambling topics, that you really understand about the game to discuss it, that's what you should do before someone gets emotional, so it's not as complicated as it is today, actually the problems you are facing right now, You seek it, for yourself.

it is obvious that you have understood the basic JollyGood motive when they leave negative feedback to Amel, but in essence, it is still the wrong reason. Neutral is okay in case of any shitposter (I didn't research OP's posts) just to warn primarily signature campaign managers.

Based on this JG tag, I would expect him to neg tag campaign manager which accept shitposter or spammer in the campaign. In the end, they are the bigger culprits because they allow it and still pay for such posts.

@JollyGood you need to revise this feedback (and others similar if any) to prove that you fully understand how to trust system work and its real purpose. If you insist on the red tag this user, it seems here in this topic you have more serious reasons for that. some users have done a more investigation.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: YOSHIE on October 06, 2020, 01:16:17 AM
@JollyGood you need to revise this feedback
I think there is no point in revising or doing anything with @Amel anymore.

He's left the forum for good: Amel (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Amel) (Archived),
unless there is a miracle.

@Amel: Have a nice day out there.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on October 06, 2020, 06:30:00 AM
@JollyGood you need to revise this feedback
I think there is no point in revising or doing anything with @Amel anymore.

He's left the forum for good: Amel (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Amel) (Archived),
unless there is a miracle.

@Amel: Have a nice day out there.

It really doesn't matter if the account is banned or not but the negative feedback should be revised. As everyone else said, this is inappropriate use of the trust/feedback system. I'm not talking about if the user is a spammer or not, the right approach was already followed since the account is banned, and that was what should have been done at the first place. Hope that @JollyGood will avoid doing this in the future.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 06, 2020, 08:59:40 AM
Just my opinion,

Previously theymos has told that DT users who use the trust system to negative tag a person for their posting habits will not longer remain a DT member.

So Jolly should take better steps in controlling his red paint gun if they wishes to keep their status intact and also because we need them to tag scammers and continue what Jolly does good.

Reporting to the moderator is what should have been done in the first place instead of giving a negative trust. This is the job of the mods to do so let them do it. Division of duties is important here. :-[

In any case, this one is over now, but have any of you informed irfan_pak about it? I found the OP's name still in the campaign list. If not, I will do it.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Lucius on October 06, 2020, 10:40:44 AM
Previously theymos has told that DT users who use the trust system to negative tag a person for their posting habits will not longer remain a DT member.

I have nothing personally against JollyGood , but I wonder if any of the DT members who have it on their list have removed (distrust) him due to inappropriate use of negative feedback? Personally, I felt on my skin that such abuse is punished by other DT members very expressively without any hesitation.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: eddie13 on October 06, 2020, 02:00:33 PM
Previously theymos has told that DT users who use the trust system to negative tag a person for their posting habits will not longer remain a DT member.

I have nothing personally against JollyGood , but I wonder if any of the DT members who have it on their list have removed (distrust) him due to inappropriate use of negative feedback? Personally, I felt on my skin that such abuse is punished by other DT members very expressively without any hesitation.

No, mostly because he didn’t do it to some poor undeserving user out of some personal vendetta to destroy their account..

He was right, even though he used the wrong tag button..

Many DT make much more abusive tags and get away with it over much worse circumstances like personal feuds..

Wrong use of tag but not very egregious or malicious..


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: examplens on October 06, 2020, 06:51:04 PM
@JollyGood you need to revise this feedback
I think there is no point in revising or doing anything with @Amel anymore.

He's left the forum for good: Amel (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Amel) (Archived),
unless there is a miracle.

@Amel: Have a nice day out there.

It really doesn't matter if the account is banned or not but the negative feedback should be revised. As everyone else said, this is inappropriate use of the trust/feedback system. I'm not talking about if the user is a spammer or not, the right approach was already followed since the account is banned, and that was what should have been done at the first place. Hope that @JollyGood will avoid doing this in the future.

Exactly, I am guided by the first post in the thread where OP started a discussion about correct/incorrect red tag. Is no matter is it about Amel or someone other.

Previously theymos has told that DT users who use the trust system to negative tag a person for their posting habits will not longer remain a DT member.

I have nothing personally against JollyGood , but I wonder if any of the DT members who have it on their list have removed (distrust) him due to inappropriate use of negative feedback? Personally, I felt on my skin that such abuse is punished by other DT members very expressively without any hesitation.

No, mostly because he didn’t do it to some poor undeserving user out of some personal vendetta to destroy their account..

He was right, even though he used the wrong tag button..

Many DT make much more abusive tags and get away with it over much worse circumstances like personal feuds..

Wrong use of tag but not very egregious or malicious..

Jolly is a good member, and he did a great job in the fight against fraudsters. things like this can make him better and more precise in leaving feedback. I know he's corrected his rating a couple of times already after a suggestion, which is a good sign and means that he is still trying to be rational when using trust system over Bitcointalk.
I will leave it still on my trust list but I will certainly pay attention to his feedbacks, in the end, it is the same with everyone else on my list whom I have trusted.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Vod on October 06, 2020, 11:04:09 PM
I have nothing personally against JollyGood , but I wonder if any of the DT members who have it on their list have removed (distrust) him due to inappropriate use of negative feedback?

He's a Jolly Good guy.  :)

I feel many DT1 members are kind of "holding their breath" on changing any trust lists right now.     Covid and the election... something is in the air.  :/


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: hacker1001101001 on October 07, 2020, 03:21:59 AM
Previously theymos has told that DT users who use the trust system to negative tag a person for their posting habits will not longer remain a DT member.

I have nothing personally against JollyGood , but I wonder if any of the DT members who have it on their list have removed (distrust) him due to inappropriate use of negative feedback? Personally, I felt on my skin that such abuse is punished by other DT members very expressively without any hesitation.

No, mostly because he didn’t do it to some poor undeserving user out of some personal vendetta to destroy their account..

He was right, even though he used the wrong tag button..

He has done it around dozens of time previously out of his personal vendetta. It's clear that he has too much of an ego and likes to shit on others user trust wall without any solid reason's for doing so.

He always uses wrong tag button to show whom he puts on ignore. ( but can't stand by his words anyways). Maybe this is more clear now.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: suchmoon on October 07, 2020, 03:34:44 AM
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Constantly attacking those who you perceive as having wronged you is not going to change the fact that you're a plagiarising ICO-bumping maggot. Stop derailing threads with your butthurt.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: hacker1001101001 on October 07, 2020, 05:43:21 AM
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Constantly attacking those who you perceive as having wronged you is not going to change the fact that you're a plagiarising ICO-bumping maggot. Stop derailing threads with your butthurt.

I just mentioned a fact. I hope that doesn't count as something worth of red trust from an abusers perspective which you are trying to defend.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: suchmoon on October 07, 2020, 06:13:08 AM
I just mentioned a fact. I hope that doesn't count as something worth of red trust from an abusers perspective which you are trying to defend.

Posting in threads without reading them is another thing that you should really stop doing. I'm not defending anybody here and you would know that if you read the fucking thread. You could have also learned that this thread is not about you but about another plagiarising shithead. Plagiarism is cancer and while red trust is not appropriate in this case, nor is this grandstanding and indignation from the likes of you. Shut up and start reporting spammers since you've been giving a completely undeserved second chance.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: hacker1001101001 on October 07, 2020, 06:24:08 AM
I just mentioned a fact. I hope that doesn't count as something worth of red trust from an abusers perspective which you are trying to defend.

Posting in threads without reading them is another thing that you should really stop doing. I'm not defending anybody here and you would know that if you read the fucking thread. You could have also learned that this thread is not about you but about another plagiarising shithead. Plagiarism is cancer and while red trust is not appropriate in this case, nor is this grandstanding and indignation from the likes of you. Shut up and start reporting spammers since you've been giving a completely undeserved second chance.

Nice spin, but I don't endorse plagiarism or even supported it in this thread anywhere. Also, the plagiarism thing was discovered after the red trust was given anyways.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Timelord2067 on October 07, 2020, 06:24:40 AM
Constantly attacking those who you perceive as having wronged you

That's about where you should have hit the pause button and asked yourself "Do you want to continue?"  instead of continuing with this:

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is not going to change the fact that you're a plagiarising ICO-bumping maggot. Stop derailing threads with your butthurt.

It's off topic and hijacking the thread.

Please stop.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: The Cryptovator on October 07, 2020, 06:36:15 AM
I just mentioned a fact. I hope that doesn't count as something worth of red trust from an abusers perspective which you are trying to defend.
OP got what he deserves. Almost every poster here said that the negative feedback wasn't appropriate in this case since spam is under moderation policy. Sounds against the feedback doesn't me anyone supporting the OP since its pretty sure he a spammer. Sound against OP doesn't mean someone supporting the feedbacks. I agree with them who are assuming the account was changed hand. Even the English writing style completely different than a year ago posts. Since the case has closed by banning OP, so we can avoid further discussion or attacking someone regarding this case.

I think the moderator should lock this thread.


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: notblox1 on October 07, 2020, 07:05:50 AM
Well that escalated quickly...
I am not sure what exactly happened here after reported posts and receiving negative feedback but member Amel is now banned from forum:

https://i.imgur.com/5hX5SZT.jpg
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=519514
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=519514




Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: examplens on October 07, 2020, 08:54:47 AM
Well that escalated quickly...
I am not sure what exactly happened here after reported posts and receiving negative feedback but member Amel is now banned from forum:

https://i.imgur.com/5hX5SZT.jpg
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=519514
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=519514




He is banned because of plagiarism found by HCP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=867786)
You can check his post here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279938.msg55316754#msg55316754


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: eddie13 on October 07, 2020, 03:52:22 PM
I wonder how much that legendary account was worth that he just lost..


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: Vod on October 07, 2020, 04:24:35 PM
Constantly attacking those who you perceive as having wronged you is not going to change the fact that you're a plagiarising ICO-bumping maggot. Stop derailing threads with your butthurt.

I just mentioned a fact. I hope that doesn't count as something worth of red trust from an abusers perspective which you are trying to defend.

What fact is that, hacker?   Everything you posted was opinion and summarization.  :/


Title: Re: What is the reason to give me the red trust???
Post by: suchmoon on October 07, 2020, 04:50:20 PM
I don't endorse plagiarism

That's like me not endorsing cookies.

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Banned from displaying signatures until May 14, 2021, 12:52:45 AM

Report 1 plagiarist for every 10 of your anti-establishment rants, can't be that hard.