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Let's take one year time

You buy btc Now its 10k it Can fall down like to 7k likely and then it will go Back up... Right. I
in one year time  there is high change that btc go to  10k to 15k price range.
Right Now its 10k If I buy Today in few months it Can go over 12 k as the price was like this many times.
Anyone Can see that bitcoin price is quite stable on the Long period of time.

And Right Now If you buy btc its 10k its in likely possible the price will go lower.

As strong buy price are 7k to 10k

If you Don't sell with loss the btc is best investment asset I just realised.

And Right Now we are on Economic low point and Even then the btc is 10k the price likely will go up If the economy will be better.

Are you getting paid to create topics like that ?

I see that almost every day you create topics that is hard to read. You just throw a bunch of phrases, words, some numbers (perhaps then click "randomize" button) and produce a new topic. Do you even read what people post in your own topics?

According to your post, bitcoin can go up, or can go down. There are "chances to go up to 15k", while it is "likely possible to go lower than 10k". Wtf is this ? "If you buy high, dont sell low" - well I be damned, that is so right… Since you registered in July 2019, it took you 1 year to realise? Yeah…"btc is safe heaven"

If you don't sell your bitcoins in the short term, then yes, you have most likely made a great investment, because bitcoin is probably going way up in the next 3-4 years. Although, you are correct only for the long term. On short term, if I want to make 100 dollars within a month, I consider bitcoin one of the worst investments since it's wildly fluctuating.

There are some warnings though, that show what should you do. Like, recently when bitcoin dropped from ~$10600 to ~$10000 and then it went up again. But even that is risky, it could stay on the $10000 for weeks or even worst, it go down to the $9k  ::)

For the not-so-much-bitcoin-fans, I personally suggest ethereum as "quick money" with low risk. This thing is going up soon.

P.S: Make your posts look better as @TopTort777 said above, you look pretty spammy.

you are wrong bitcoin is not a "safe heaven".
bitcoin is a currency that has a good chance of appreciating in value over time and increase your purchasing power if you own any amount of it. it is not supposed to go up in price and it is not supposed to be profitable and there is no guarantee.

It can be true about every strong asset in the world in long term, isn't it?

you have created so many topics all over the forum,are you really doing this for the sake of finding knowledge?
Sorry just curious because i have been seeing you in all section almost with existing or new thread created.
That is if you really understand what OP means,because i find it hard to understand.
though Bitcoin is really safe heaven if you are willing to Hold longer than what other expected.

Pretty much. Using OP's argument, you could say the same with assets like Amazon stock, which a lot of people believe that will likely go up as time goes and as Amazon continues to grow. And regardless how bigger and bigger Amazon is growing, there's technically still a non-zero chance that Bezos will mess up the company one way or another; hence not really a "safe haven", just probably a good investment.

People call bitcoin a "safe haven" not because of the potential price appreciation, but mostly because bitcoin is like gold in a way that bitcoin's(and gold's) total supply cant be mass inflated at will by the central banks.

When you talk about long term yes there is a possibility as long as btc exist and people still fully support the technology, but the fear of unknown can't be ignored as well, i think the whole btc being a safe heaven argument is subjective and depend on each individual, if you are the type who is not affected by occasional price dump and aim long term this will most likely be true, but many people are only viewing the short term price, that is why many panic sell when there is a little price dump.

Neither way then you will either earn or have loss but as long you don't sell up your coins  then it wont really consider as a loss but the question is, would you really have that kind of patience
where you might hold up for several months or years?

Its never been always a guarantee that if you do buy now then you would assure that you will be profiting on the next year to come.Just take for example on last year basis if you do get in into those peak prices then until now you are really still holding.

Safe haven isn't a proper word because even though bitcoin is highly supported but doesn't mean that it will give an assurance.

It is easy to imagine if we buy bitcoin at a current price and hold it for a year, and then in the next year, bitcoin prices increase a lot. But I am afraid that you will not see that. If you follow what happens from 2017-2018 until now, you will see bitcoin price suddenly jump to the lowest price, and many people never imagine if that can happen. But it did happen, but people are now seeing a new hope for bitcoin price to increase higher because the price now can back to $10 price level. And if somehow, the price will go down to $7k-$8k again, I am sure people will try to buy bitcoin at that price because that will be a discount price for bitcoin.

Buy bitcoin at any current price, hold it and trade it if you have skills, and sell it whenever the price increases, so you can profit. That will make you have money to buy gold.

Bitcoin is a decentralized which is very safe compare to other cryptocurrencies  which are not safe in the area of market. When you obey all the bitcoin rules in the areas of transaction all your coins are safe.
I think when you study the rules of bitcoin very well your money is safe and  it make you feel  you just discovered possible reason why BTC is safe heaven. Bitcoin is more popular and safe in the  place of Investment.

He even said it himself:

Assets that do it cannot be called a safe haven.
I have no idea what safe heaven is. ;)

Even if you think something will go back up it's only oyour believe and your speculation.

I own Bitcoins but I wouldn't recomend people to put all of their money in it and tell them it's 100% safe.

History may repeat itself, but not all the time. Bitcoin's past of impressive value appreciation will not just be a magical endless cycle. If it was able to hit $3k after touching $20k, it is able to hit $1.5k after touching $10k as well - and so on.

It's not just a miracle. Today, we have the possible extreme advantage of multiple factors, such as the fact that there still are very few Bitcoin users right now, although the number has exploded since Bitcoin's genesis. While you may have missed the first decade, it's still early to enter the market today IMO.

But that comes with consequences - institutional investors are making Bitcoin's graph follow stocks more than ever before. Remember when Bitcoin had a huge drop this year, together with stocks while at the same time Gold bounced? How is Bitcoin a safe haven in that scenario? :P

Bitcoin is not stable and reliable enough to be safe haven. Let's be realistic. Fiat is still doing quite okay and it's pretty stable, even though usually somewhat deflationary. Then there's gold which has a long history of rising up in price, and rarely demonstrates high volatility. Bitcoin might become a safe haven if major fiat currencies fall to hyperinflation, but it's unlikely and situational. Bitcoin is young, volatile, and wasn't made to be safe haven, so while some might use it in this way, this can end badly with people losing a lot of money due to usuing Bitcoin not the way it's supposed to be used.

absolutely true bitcoin is not safe heaven, if you are looking for safe heaven property is the answer
the human population will not comply but will continue to grow so that property will be very much needed
I remember my house around 2010 had a price of $ 60,000 and now the price is $ 476,818, this is a real safe heaven asset

BTC is a worthy asset, and it is trusted enough. But, I don't think many people consider it a safe-heaven asset.
Well, it is probably because of the volatility of BTC in the market.
You may say that if holding BTC will lead you get the profits after one year or more. It may be true if it is for a long-term investment. But, you cannot expect the profits until a certain time exactly. Because we will not know whether the price of BTC will go up after one year or not. As in 2017 and above, the price goes down again and again until now and it still doesn't break the ATH

Property is an asset because its price tends to increase and it brings us money. In addition, property sales generate money for property agents and property loan salespeople who earn income by selling property and banking products.

But property can be an expense if over time there will be burdens including renovation costs, maintenance costs, water fees, electricity fees, land and building taxes and property loan installments. So instead of gaining more money, the house is actually draining more money.

Asset functions to increase wealth and store money in the wallet, while Expense functions to reduce wealth and remove money from the wallet. So that the house can be an asset not a burden, the house must generate value to cover the burden. The way to do this is by being contracted, used as a boarding house, used as lodging in collaboration with hotel aggregators. By turning a house into passive income, it will provide us with wealth and income without the need to use up our time and energy.

You just realized this? how long you've been researching how good bitcoin as an investment. I've read it before that you only loss when you sell at losses. As long as you hold it, you can retain the value in no time and if you believe it being as the best cryptocurrency.

Stop with the ifs, buy it or you'll be telling us in the future that you've missed buying with the range you're telling us today as a good price to buy.

Anything which gives us profit is an asset, terming it as a property is not correct because banks considers cars in the property as well, but is it an asset? No, because it rather drains all your money,

I accept that even immovable assets such as building, lands etc can turn out to be a liability. Just take the current scenario where I have seen drastic fall of price of the immovable assets in our area and nearby due to the pandemic. Rent apartments are empty where the owner has to shed money to maintain the property.

BTC being the safe heaven or not, nobody can tell about it now. With countries banning crypto trading and criminalizing the action will make this more complicated. I would have bought legitimate and a little safe option rather than BTC completely.

What you are saying makes no sense whatsoever op. You are simply speculating on the future value of BTC based on historical data which is something that most crypto enthusiasts do on a regular basis.

This doesn't mean that their speculations are accurate or anything. The same applies to you obviously. Stop assuming things since this makes you seem like a gullible newbie.

The truth is that assets like BTC etc are not completely safe and the past hacks etc are proof of that. You need to secure your assets properly through 2FA, hardware wallets etc.

BTC has been one of the best performing investments with returns of 600x over a 10 year period, it's very likely that price action will continue upwards for a while.

I do think that it can be thought of as a safe haven both as an investment and for security purposes. In Venezuela people have mentioned that the government was able to seize their gold and physical assets, but not their BTC.

The price is already above $11,000 right now, although it doesn’t mean it won’t go down, since that’s not much, but at the same time there is still the chance that the price can continue going up from there. I have been holding my bitcoins for a long time now and I know one thing for sure that it will go up in future, even if the price should crash, there is more chances of going up in the future.

The problem some people are having is because they are always hoping for the price to go from $1 to $100,000 in a day, they are looking for quick money, but it doesn’t work that way. It can take months, depending on when you invested for you to make a good profit from it. I tell people that if they can’t have that kind of patience, then it’s best they look for something else.

I appreciate your support for bitcoin. With Tether rising from a few hundred million dollars to 15 billion dollars today, I have a strong belief that money is flowing into the crypto market faster than ever. As the financial stimulus continues to roll out Bitcoin will be bought more by people especially companies.
Can we reasonably explain why Bitcoin is increasing in price? I'm just speculating.

What if the price went down $1000 in the next year and another thousand dollars in the consequtive years? You didn't tell us the real reason why you consider it as safe heaven. :)

Bitcoin prices fluctuate all the time.  Because it is never fixed. If you want to invest in Bitcoin, you can invest at any time.  Bitcoin has been at a point for some time now.  It is limited to 10 to 12 thousand. So if you believe in Bitcoin, then buy Bitcoin.  One day or another, its price will go up.  I have repeatedly said that it is better not to invest in Bitcoin in the short term.  Because it has more chances of loss than profit.  If you have a long-term investment plan, buy and hold Bitcoin.  I think now is a good time to buy bitcoin.

Bitcoin is an option for calling for a new global monetary system. Because it is too small and volatile, it isn't a safe haven or a store of value yes. a 10 percent regular changes is not unusual. its network value, after all, is less than 3 percent of the gold market cap.

 your phrase is confusing but i figured out what your trying to say . your saying that btc can go down or can go up and down but in the end btc will still go up and remain stable on there .

 your right with that and that is what im saying whenever there is a debate or is someone questions the abillity of btc . you arent the first to discover this but theres a thread on here before that talks the same and he said that btc is also a safe haven .

 it is really a safe haven but there still iliterate people that dont get it  .

Pehaps, he have noticed the importance of scarcity and miners to this point of conclusion that BTC is a safe haven (Correction, not heaven). The truth is, we are seeing the price fluctuates from stable to high and high to low stable, and any other patterns but the IMO, Bitcoin's future doesn't depend on its price, if you could see its market capitalization, our next target is trillion dollar market cap which means that Bitcoin has already established a huge market adoption that many people are already into it. The basic laws of economics are simple, more demand of a product/services means higher price. Added the scarcity of bitcoin, low Supply + High Demand = + Value.

Bitcoin has a very good buying zone, and the price increase of bitcoin has been predicted. Currently, bitcoin's block rewards are halving, the hash rate is increasing, companies are actively buying bitcoins, the number of bitcoins on exchanges is falling, Bitcoin has been stable above $ 10k for days in a row. ... the reasons above are great for a bullish bitcoin scenario.

This thread doesnt really contribute or just really a simple prediction one on where we can make on our own when it comes on predicting prices.Of course it can shoot up from 12k or more than
and can possibly dip down below 10k or lower.This had been always the typical move of bitcoin and what matter most here is that majority is aiming for long term aspect.
Also it isnt really that ideal to treat bitcoin as a safe haven because everything can blow you out on least expected.Only invest on the amount that you can afford to lose.

As of now bitcoin price of $11,000 was a safe heaven to think of but we cant assure that this value may take so long because we can't tell when this price would take dumped off or much better if it going up. Fluctuations of price may happened anytime in the market and it depends upon the supply and demand of cryptocurrency. Cryptocurrency value varies anytime, unpredictable and you are the one who can control your lose be careful enough and have patience.

I will agree if holding bitcoin would be better than the altcoin because when bitcoin moves, the altcoin will go behind bitcoin, so that means, if bitcoin goes down, the altcoin will go down, and sometimes, the drop of the altcoin will be deep.
And if bitcoin can rise, the altcoin will need more time to increase.
So if you hold bitcoin and not sell in the downtrend, but you buy back bitcoin, you will have a chance to sell at a high price.
But I don't think that bitcoin is safe heaven because we know that the price has fluctuated, and the price can moves to any price without notice.
But people can say bitcoin is a safe haven for them, including what the @OP want to say, but there will be people who don't call bitcoin as a safe haven, and they prefer to say that gold is the safe haven for them.

There's no assurance after all. Lots of factors that can affect how the value will proceed, we can all assess and speculate, it depends how you trust the system in order for you to say that it can be a safe haven for your investment.
Never to expect sure thing to happened, there's none while the type of nature coming from this venue of investment are very unpredictable, lots of fluctuations and sways,.

yes, many people also say bitcoin is a safe place to invest because bitcoin prices are stable and always above $ 10k in recent months, in my opinion there is a big possibility that bitcoin prices will be more expensive in the next few months.  I am sure that if the Corona Virus can be eradicated in the near future, then the economies of all countries will recover and after that the price of bitcoin will rise even higher.

yes, many people also say bitcoin is a safe place to invest because bitcoin prices are stable and always above $ 10k in recent months, in my opinion there is a big possibility that bitcoin prices will be more expensive in the next few months.  I am sure that if the Corona Virus can be eradicated in the near future, then the economies of all countries will recover and after that the price of bitcoin will go higher because bitcoin buyers are increasing.

Then what if it stayed at 10k and never fell again to 7k?
Worse, it suddenly pumped to 15k.

Regrets. That is the one thing you will feel.
But, if you did take the risk it may fall below 7k but all you need to do is wait since there is always a larger possibility for it to go back up.

Bitcoin is not a safe place for everyone's assets, bitcoin is a place where people invest with great risk and desire to reap a return.
If people who ever bought bitcoin when its price is close to $ 20,000 hear someone say that bitcoin is a safe asset, I think they'll go mad.

You won't lose your money until you sell all your coins. You can not become rich in days. You have to apply the highly patient if you want to make more money.
Bitcoin has enough power and potential to convert your investment into high profit.
There are chances for bitcoin to increase up to 15k. The most possible lower price will be 9k since it's stable from July.

Bitcoin is a decentralized currency that has a prospect in future, which many people know about, and many companies are implement bitcoin as means of payment and purchasing goods and online booking.