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Show me shops where i can spend crypto ...

crypto is useless...

type "buy with bitcoin" on google search and you will not find any major retailer using bitcoin or other cryptos

So what's the point of crypto if i can't use it to buy stuff ?

Check the below website,

https://coinmap.org/

It consists the required info!

Also, it is true that crypto can't be used in many places due to the regulatory hiccups and price fluctuations. But that doesn't mean it is useless. You can order a crypto debit card from Bitpay and Polispay and use it like any other plastic card.

Hope this helps!

overstock
microsoft
newegg
namecheap
fasttech
caseking
kfc
wikipedia
AT&T
burger king
subway
dell
twitch
norwegian air
starbucks
etsy
gyft
nordvpn
...

either accept btc, have accepted btc in the past or some of their filials or country branches accept btc. There are literally thousands more... Both online and offline. These are just the ones i had in my bookmarks...

But if you feel crypto is useless, it's perfectly fine... Just sell any crypto assets you hold, store the FIAT in your bank account and walk away...

I personally still can't shop with cryptocurrencies freely but I don't think that cryptocurrencies are useless.  The understanding of cryptocurrencies is not evenly distributed, this is the reason why many online or offline stores still do not accept payments in cryptocurrencies.  You can still personally spend the profits from selling the cryptocurrencies you earn to buy something..

"lol" it looks like we don't need to be too harsh with the OP's opinion, he is just less sensitive to conditions in many countries that still cannot accept cryptocurrencies as a means of payment..  :D

Here's the thing, just because one thing isn't yet accepted majorly in the mainstream circle doesn't mean it's useless! It's just that we have to preach about crypto more to people so they all see how beneficial it is and how fair it is against fiat which is printed out of nothing and is regulated by corrupt institutions. Store crypto, one day it will be accepted everywhere I believe :)

check the fees and confirmation time also ...

1-2 hours to confirm bitcoin transaction ... if i go to a fast food and pay with bitcoin for my burger and fanta i got to wait 1 hour for just one confirm ... some times more

Same for eth ... also eth has cancellation fee ,many many errors ...

Go to Bitrefill.com. There you can buy balance and coupons for shops like Amazon, Apple Store, Netflix, IKEA, Playstation and many more (depends also on the country you come from). There are so many different companies /shops listed in my country that I could basically make all my important purchases only through Bitcoin. Bitrefill has been on the market for years and can therefore be considered very serious. So far I have made only good experiences.

Also compare transfer fees

Let's say i want to transfer money from country A to country B .... Moneygram,Western Union is cheaper then Localcryptos or paxful or localbitcoins etc...

What, Moneygram and Western Union are cheaper? Absolutely not. You can send Bitcoin with less than $1 in fee, while you pay much more with Western Union and others. With BitRefill you don't pay any extra fees. On the contrary, you even get 2-3% cashback credited to your purchase. For example, if you buy a voucher for $ 100, you pay exactly $ 100 in Bitcoin and then receive $ 2-3 credited for the next purchase.

I'm sure Vitalik will reward you generously if you would be that kind to point the many errors ETh has.


PcGarage or Evomag  ;D Not good enough for you?
And if you want food, why is the timing that important now with the lockdown, my friends tells me that restaurants are closed in your country anyhow.
Other than that why the hell do you even care about it, are you out of things to hate for the day and started this to relieve more of your frustrations?

There are a lot of today are accepting the use of the cryptocurrency in their shops, Also recently there is a thread on our Local(Pilipinas) created¹ by Asuspawer09
Some of the stores in my country already accepted the use of it, and soon after the covid I will visit those if I have time.


Also, you can try to visit the huge list² of ratimov about different exchange which uses debit cards and some of these are accepting the use of the bitcoin as payment. Right now I'm using the MCO Crypto. com to buy different things like voucher into grab and more stuffs.
Ps. Im not promoting the website this is included to the huge list if ratimov too.


1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261087.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280997.0

OK. Not the first time that I've heard this description for crypto. While others are enjoying the benefits of crypto and its uses, there always those people that will say it's useless, no worth, can't buy anything.

It's funny to see that I'm only thinking of buying top up loads and then it was the result when I've used those keywords you have given.

You just can't buy it because you say so but probably haven't done it personally.

Well, not all sites that accept bitcoin appear there. I found a dentist I was looking for and noticed that his site says he accepts bitcoin. Also, it won't appear on the google search that the OP has done for sure. This also happened to me in another case.

The thing is that the OP is partly right, bitcoin is far behind the cash, and the bad thing about pages like bitrefill is that they do the conversion to fiat so you can spend.

Nice suggestion. More on to this, day before yesterday I had good discussion regarding binance debut card which supposed to be most legitimate service considering the fact they are giant exchanger in the crypto space.

So yeah you can always enrol for such programs and get their debit card which has the capability to pay on the spot just like your normal visa or MasterCard. I guess it makes it even better considering you get to enjoy your anonymity.

A lot of famous companies are accepting cryptocurrencies as payments like Microsoft, Twitch, Overstock, etc. I think you are just making non-sense, and doesn't really know what bitcoin truly is. If you want to know the real purpose of bitcoin, you better start learning its benefits and uses of bitcoin in your daily lives and try to be active in this forum to realize that bitcoin is not useless.

You can visit my thread in the Local(Pilipinas) Section here :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249761.0

Literally, thousands of websites online and physical stores where you could use your cryptocurrency.

Why you don't sell all of your cryptos and convert it into fiat and then send it to your bank account. By doing that, you will stop thinking about crypto, and you will have fiat money to buy anything you want. If your complaint with the time confirmation, you can increase the fees to get confirmation in a short time. I never use Moneygram, but I already use Western Union, and the fee is damn too high for me ;D

1144 online stores for now, will that be enough to meet your needs? https://spending-bitcoin.com/


If you think so, then you are on the wrong forum, crypto can be quite useful if you understand what it is all about.


First you need to learn how to use search engine properly, then you can see some real results. I’ve personally bought a lot of stuff for Bitcoin over the past few years, and I’ve never had a problem with fees - but that again requires knowledge - not some special knowledge, but still bigger than using a bank card with 4 PIN numbers.

Undoubtedly, today the infrastructure for using cryptocurrency in a person's daily life is not yet fully developed, but first of all it all depends on the laws of a particular state, since it is impossible to get any services for cryptocurrency if it is prohibited by the government. In addition, I believe that the more cryptocurrency users per square kilometer of the city, the more likely it is that the services of shops, offices and businesses can be provided to customers for cryptocurrency.

Definitely this website doesn't hold the full list of bitcoins accepting merchants. It's an inhumane effort to list everyone. However, it provides a good list to start at least!

As I have already said, many merchants don't accept bitcoin due to the regulatory issues. In my city, I have found a Hair Salon which says they accept vitcoin. But when I called them to enquire, they denied. When I had actually visited the Salon, they agreed to take bitcoin. It shows that a lot of merchants are super cautious due to the regulatory issues. Not all countries are like Japan or Germany!

do not compare evomag and pcgarage with emag or altex ...

evomag and pcgarage are tiny shops

Are you kidding me? $11,380,970 worth of Bitcoin was sent today with just $2.75 (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/ab9eba31343bc76ed1396a30ef07ae5685f6e78cdb131a8d783f0741753aa76c) which you and I know is impossible send just $100 with $2.75 using money Gram or Western Union but you mistaking if you judge BTC transaction fee through the charges on paxful or localbitcoin because every peer to peer exchange site charge some ridiculous fee. However, is not up to Wu/MG fee.

No  no no sweetie (hopping your a girl and not some fat guy :) ) ...your math is wrong...

First  user from country A has to buy BTC ,easiest way to buy btc is via p2p trading platforms ...as it's cheap ... he pays +3% - 5% to buy 10000 usd

Moving btc from wallet A to wallet B  is cheap

Now user B has to exchange it to fiat ...it cost him around +3% - 5% trader fee + a small bank fee

So cost to send 10k around 10%

User A has to send 11000 USD so that user B gets 10000 USD as fiat ... via crypto


Via moneygram

https://i.ibb.co/fSqbDw6/Screenshot-from-2020-10-13-20-12-13.png

Fee is 104.99 usd via debit card/credit card

The reason you can't buy stuffs with crypto yet is simply because it has not been massively adopted in the mainstream. Just because this is so doesn't mean bitcoin or crypto is useless. It can be used for a whole lot of other things.
If you take just a minute or two to check through the numerous benefits of bitcoin and crypto, you'd realize the other benefits of bitcoin other than using it to buy stuff.
I mean you can simply hodl your coins in the meantime as an investment. Many have made money that way. You can also choose to trade it although this requires skills and knowledge.

Ps. There are several sites that accept bitcoin. They have been listed by those before me

Airbaltic airline accepts bitcoin as a payment for tickets https://www.airbaltic.com/airbaltic-worlds-first-airline-to-accept-bitcoin.

They do is since 2014 and claim to be first airline to accept bitcoin as a payment. But according to this article (https://bitcoinist.com/it-doesnt-work-cryptocurrency-community-tells-airbaltic-to-ditch-bitpay/) they do not accept bitcoin and used that name just get attention.

Maybe just in your country you can say that crypto is useless but not in other country because other country are now moving forward to accept crypto. Also cryptocurrency are already used for online payments and also some business establishment and stores are not accepting it. Here in our country ,I can pay my bills using crypto , So I think crypto is not useless and remember that this time of pandemic crypto become an alternative source of income of many people just to survive from this situation.

From the very beginning days of bitcoin, it has got its usage on different services. These services with cryptocurrency acceptance hasn't gained good visibility, because of its services being offered within specific limits. Mostly on western nations, America and Japan has got large number of shops accepting bitcoin. Crypto isn't useless it is in its early adoption into real-time usage.

This is the part on where you're wrong on what you had said. You want a list?
Check this one: https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin/who-accepts/

Also this one on few sites too:
https://icoholder.com/blog/places-accept-bitcoin/

Crypto is useless? Think again.

OP is talking like the only purpose of Bitcoin is to be a currency. :P


I don't know why you insist on using expensive exchanges when there  are much cheaper options around.

Even though I'm not using Coinbase anymore their fee for EU citizens is 1.49% and fiat bank transfers are free of charge.

So just because someone like you woke up today and couldn't find something to buy with bitcoin we declare crypto useless? Even though many others have surely given you websites showing what all can you buy using crypto I think the primary accomplishment for cryptocurrency is that without any regulation and intermediary in a matter of merely 11 years it has been able to establish that trust between two people that atleast some things are being sold over internet using cryptos. It would take time for this culture to develop. What most peopel fail to realize is that this whole system is trust based. This is a slow process which is improving each day. The stores each day are increasing. I see this as a pure success for cryptos.

Peer-to-peer has its costs as well. The fact that p2p traders charge 3-5% is not Bitcoin's issue. If you find the right person, you could trade at way better prices. If price and % is extremely important to you, there are even other options to consider such as centralized exchanges - the top ones usually have convenient prices, although KYC is mandatory and it isn't something I really support.

The point I'm trying to make is, there are a lot of options for all of us - you just have to seek them and accept that more privacy will from now on equal more costs.

I do not compare them as I have no clue what those shops are, I simply used google translate to search for shops accepting bitcoin in your country and the list came in the top results, simply done, and you could have done it also. Second, when searching for pcgarage and million dollars I stumbled upon an article in English where their revenue is pointed at 40 million euros, it might not be much for some but it's still exactly 40 million more than your mall will ever do.
Besides, this is not about comparison, if Pizzahut would accept bitcoin you're still going to answer that it doesn't matter because McDonald's is not?


Stop pulling numbers out of your you know what and no, the easiest way is via an exchange, and Bitstamp has a maximum  0.5% fee on trading Kraken has 0.26%.

Yeah ...now add the income tax 10% for trading crypto no matter if you make profit or not  on centralized exchanges...that's how it is in my country ,it turns your 1.49% in to 11.49%

PcGarage belongs to Emag ,Emag belongs to Naspers ,Naspers  revenue US$22.1 billion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naspers

You can't exchange it here via centralized  exchanges...local irs tax you 10% here ...all you can do is buy something with it that's it ...

I personally can't use crypto to buy in any shop even if crypto is not illegal in our country,

However, I do not call it useless, I know well that it is yet to be accepted worldwide that's why you can only spend crypto in a few shops. If you can't use it, then the only reason is there is still no available yet near you.

or what the OP can do is just convert his crypto to fiat, thats actually not a problem here. the prob here is if you have no crypto to spend.
 you may not spend your crypto directly to shops but guess what? there are so many ways how to spend crypto.

but did the OP try to connect it with his debit card or getting a debit card just like the binance card. this is one good example where you can basically use a crypto debit card for various merchants

https://www.binance.com/en/cards
https://medium.com/@Blockchance/binance-debit-card-shop-anywhere-with-bitcoins-387f7406739f

Indeed, there are not many places for us to spend Cryptocurrency, but that doesn't mean cryptocurrency is useless. After all, not all
countries accept cryptocurrency, so naturally there aren't many places for us to spend Cryptocurrency. And there are many ways to
spend crypto, you don't have to spend it in the store. We can spend crypto to play gambling or some charities like UNICEF also accept
donations with cryptocurrency. So we can share a little of the profits we get from crypto for donations to charities. Don't compare it
with fiat which is thousands of years old, give the cryptocurrency a chance to grow and don't call cryptocurrency useless.

While everyone here is telling you that you can actually make regular purchases with cryptocurrency, I'll ask you something else.

Why do YOU use cryptocurrencies if they are so useless? Is this a special kind of masochism? Or to spite someone? Why, Mr. smartcontracts100 (aka spy 100), why do you continue to use this tool if you consider it useless? You know why. Everyone here knows why.
Why? Because you are not interested in the possibility of buying a PS5 for ETH in the official store. You are not interested in buying coffee at Starbucks for btc. You are not interested in integrating cryptocurrency into everyday life.
YOU're only interested in profit. Profit from over-volatility of the exchange rate. Profit from short positions. Profit from new tokens that will become dust tomorrow but today cost 20 thousand dollars.
So answer me - why ask such questions on the forum about cryptocurrencies when you yourself do not need what you are asking?

You sure you googled it properly? I know hundreds of websites that accept bitcoin as a form of payment. Even you are accepting cryptocurrencies/bitcoin as a form of payment (based on your signature and a post in the link you provided). So, if you think crypto currencies are useless, why are you accepting it?
Even if those "major" retailers aren't aren't accepting crypto currencies, you can still buy from them indirectly using cryptocurrencies. Buy a giftcard with bitcoin and spend it over there!

What do you mean by "major retailer"?Amazon,eBay and Walmart?
Well,the discussion about why the major tech giants like Amazon and eBay aren't accepting crypto is going to continue forever.If you ask me,Amazon and eBay will never accept crypto payments,because there's no need for them to accept crypto payments-the costs will be more than the benefits.
Anyway,there are many small and not-so-small companies that accept crypto payments(most of them were mentioned on the previous posts).
If you are so disappointed by the cryptocurrencies,then don't use them and get a credit card.

This one hits close to home because most business does not consider integrating crypto transaction in their payment system. In my country, the most popular transaction system is through Paypal like apps. I can't blame this businesses though because they risk losing profit with the current volatility of the market. If ever the time comes that they can integrate this kind of transaction especially small businesses is a revolutionary milestone for cryptocurrency.

I believe that major retailers will accept cryptocurrency payments one day. But we have to be a little patient until it comes true,
if you really want to spend your crypto by buying goods. Why not convert it to fiat on the exchanges you normally use to cash out.
I also always exchange my crypto into USD, after that I use it to buy some goods at the market place.

Don't get hasty to let cryptocurrency be adapted eventually after it was being implemented. Beside you should be thankful that you should be here because you had the advantage over other who are not here and learning about cryptocurrency.

Anyway, the best thing that one could happen believing in cryptocurrency is the knowledge about things that should be avoided, the way that a crypto user should behave, learning to get away from scams and fraud activities.

That is something that every people here are grateful for because even if we are in the pandemic, we can still have a way to make money while other people struggle to find a new job. We don't have to use bitcoin to shop in the local store or online store if we can not find that store. It is better to save our bitcoin and only sell the bitcoin if we need money. And if you can have another way to make money from real life, then you can save your bitcoin for the long term and only sell if the bitcoin price can surge to the high price.

There are many crypto shop in my area where you can buy anything with your crypto in the shop. Many people in my country it hard for them to hold fiat money to look for where shop is to buy goods with fiat money because they are now use to crypto to do any kind of transaction they found their self in the country.
I think those people finding it difficult to make use of cryptocurrency to pay for their goods they bought in a shop or restaurant are those country just legalized crypto in the place. Such people will find it difficult to get a place where they can buy goods with their coin.

Crypto is not yet supported in many parts of the world in that case there will be problems in providing the shops. I think you can use PayPal to spend crypto and also you can easily use paper money by converting cryptocurrency into dollars. Paper coins are common everywhere. And the easiest way to break the crypto and convert it to fiat if Fiat is able to use the currency not only for shops but also for other purposes then crypto will not be useless. Buyers and sellers will benefit from both exchanges.

Despite the fact that in some countries bitcoin remains unrecognized, I think that no one has any problems with cashing it in fiat.
Hence, its value does not disappear. If bitcoin can be exchanged and used as money in the future, how can you call it useless?
Another important point is the very danger of cryptocurrency exchange. To avoid mistakes, you must have some knowledge in this area. There are exchangers, that is, services for exchanging and buying digital coins. You need to carefully study the service from which you want to exchange cryptocurrency.
Regarding the ubiquitous adoption of bitcoin payments, I think that because the cryptocurrency issue remains unresolved, many sellers are wary of using bitcoin as payment.

Bitcoin is used as money already cause any item that is accepted as payment for goods and services is called money. That's what the OP doesn't understand before saying Bitcoin is useless and if it was indeed useless as the OP thought why would the institutions see it as a threat.
I think the OP is one of those that don't understand the concept of Bitcoin.

We actually dont need the giant online stores to accept Bitcoin as payment since we can easily use Bitcoin to buy gift card online or shop with crypto credit card on the giant online stores(Amazon, ebay, walmart etc). However, things is changing positively for crypto since exchange site like Kraken got approval by the government for seamlessly payment between crypto and national currencies this year.

First of all you can google all the places that accepts bitcoin, there are thousands of them online and there are thousands fo them that accept it directly and only in Japan there are 260k+ places that accepts a gift card that you can fill with bitcoin.

Moreover, we are talking about half a million and more places that you can spend bitcoin on which is a good start in the first 10 years, the next ten years will be even bigger, we are going to definitely reach to over a million places but we will also aim at places like amazon, steam, facebook and google which would make the biggest change. Obviously this is going to take sometime but this is also not the only way you could use bitcoin, it could look "useless" to you but the price is over $11k and that means people are willing to bet on it and consider it not useless.

Crypto is something you can buy any were because it has be legalized unlike before some years back it was very difficult to locate or to have access to cryptocurrency especially bitcoin even with happen of Google search as op stated above, cryptocurrency can be purchase through different sites even applications.

Emphasising on how to spend cryptocurrency, it's very simple because currently cryptocurrency especially Btc can be use to purchase everything,  provided that the products is available in market, even sometimes people values Btc more than fiat currency due to its transactions with Btc  and btc differs than fiat currencies.
Based on your statement saying that cryptocurrency is useless or worthless, no i totally disagreed with op, because crypto has numerous functions which other currencies can't operates in such manner, I will advice op before using language that will generate dust or that will be complicated to community try to make proper research.

Yep, all of those businesses accept bitcoin (as far as I know), and I'm sure there are a lot more.

But even if there were no businesses that accepted bitcoin, that doesn't mean that it couldn't have value.  You can't spend gold doubloons or rare comic books at your local retailer, but those things can be converted to large amounts of fiat--so in other words, bitcoin is an investment and not just a currency.  In fact I've always thought of it more as an investment than a currency.  I would much rather spend the dollar bills in my pocket than bitcoin when I'm buying groceries.

In any event, bitcoin is not useless.  You can spend it; it's an investment; and it's somewhat of a store of value as well.  I'd also point out that useless things don't tend to be very popular, and you kind of have to admit that bitcoin is pretty damn popular and has been for years now.

Most of the world don't have something like that. Income tax as its name suggests is applied only when you have income.

You are sending Bitcoin to someone else like as a gift  or a payment so you exchange your fiat money for Bitcoin and then send it away. How are you profiting from such transaction?
I'd understand if the person receiving your coins were to pay, but that's completely normal. If you sent them fiat money they'd have to pay income tax as well.

gifts are not taxable here ,if you trade btc there ,and i get fiat here as gift from you ,not my problem ...

Now i understand here you are making mistake cause p2p market price is always higher than actual market price and the exchange will also charge their own fee. Besides, the last time i checked no crypto exchange site charged the ridiculous amount you post and the lower fee are always 0.01% while the highest is 0.22% even for crypto to fiat currency.
One thing about cryptocurrency is that if you are not knowledgable enough you spending some unreasonable fee even as transaction fee either. Which exchange charge you the 3% - 5%?

But if you buy BTC and send it to somone that's taxable and that's your problem? A rather dumb and rare law if you ask me.

In most countries only your income is taxable not the action to buy or sell Bitcoin, because what if you sell at a loss? What if you just buy and sell at the same price because you made up your mind and decided not to get involved?

Mentioning your strange local laws when talking about usefulness of Bitcoin around the world is out of place. In the same way a Chinese citizen could say that Bitcoin is useless because he can't trade or take it to a store. The rest of the world will respond just like you did: not my problem.

It's not strange....just logical

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USER A tells USER B : Hey i want to send you 100 usd birthday gift .

USER A does not have cash but he has BTC ... he sells his BTC to get FIAT ( it's USER A problem if he gets taxed or not)

USER A Sends via tranfer or gives in hand 100 usd gift to USER B

Gifts are not taxed here...you can give me a Ferrari as gift ,how is my problem how you buy the Ferrari ?

If you occupy a public office or work for the government here ,sending Ferrari's as gifts that is a problem here(bribe etc) ...not allowed.

But private person to private person no problem,send gifts as many as you want  ;D i will gladly accept them.

There are two sides of the medal. User A will be in trouble for selling $200k BTC unless he finds a car dealer who accepts cryptocurrencies as a payment method. If both users live in the same country, the headache will less but the conditions change if the user A ships the Ferrari to another country. Customs tax and other expenses will grow and he can't even drive the Ferrari for 1 month if there are gaps in documentation. So finding the app/service which accepts the BTC will not let both users bother with the mentioned problems. 

Ah..so what are you trying to say is that its sender's responsibility whether he need to pay tax or not based on the regulations there of course. I guess pixie85 thought that the act of selling/buying btc is the one which is taxable. Maybe both of you are just having a misunderstanding :).
Hmm, is that all? What if I gave my government employee friend but not asking for any favors, is it still considered bribery?

Go to Bitrefill. You can find gift cards for almost all the stores, and these cards can be purchased using BTC, ETH or other cryptocurrencies. You can use these gift cards to make payments, when you visit Starbucks or Walmart next time. So don't claim that Bitcoin is useless for doing shopping. If you know how to use it, then you will be able to do shopping using BTC almost anywhere.

I don't think it's a question of where and how BTC can be spent anymore, because it has been more than obvious that there are thousands of online stores that accept BTC as a means of payment - but the discussion has turned into how the fees are too high and the issue of taxes. Even if these issues were fully clarified, I believe the OP would find some other reason to still believe that BTC is useless.

I don't mind that everyone has their own opinion, after all, everyone should use the payment options that suit them best at a given moment. I like to pay with BTC, but in some situations I use other options because it is more convenient for me or BTC is simply not a payment option.

There are many shops where you can use your crypto to purchase any kind of product you want in the shop.  Cryptocurrency is not favouring you does not mean is not favouring others. There are many crypto shops in my area where you can buy goods from shops and pay with your crypto without anybody question why you use crypto as payment.
I will advise you to make some research in your area about where you can use your crypto to purchase goods from the shop. I think there are many shops in your area just that you are afraid to ask people where you can use crypto in the shops.

It takes time to make things work like you are paying with Fiat.
and also not all countries implement crypto, that means it will still take a long time for all countries to implement crypto as a means of payment.
There are several countries that have implemented it, but only apply to a few items, and also with certain restrictions for each purchase, unlike fiat money which is freely used around the world. ::)

In the past there were places for me to spend bitcoin and yes, I was just looking for and using a local platform so that the delivery of goods could be done as quickly as possible but in the end there were new rules made by the local government. So I think, as long as bitcoin has its own value it will still be valuable, it takes a long process for bitcoin to be used directly in real life, and therefore bitcoin must continue to be supported so that in the future we can use bitcoin for many purposes of transactions in real life.

Take a look at these links so you can spend your Bitcoin with whatever you want to buy.

https://bitcoin.org/en/spend-bitcoin (https://bitcoin.org/en/spend-bitcoin)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/cointelegraph.com/bitcoin-for-beginners/what-can-i-buy-with-bitcoins/amp (https://www.google.com/amp/s/cointelegraph.com/bitcoin-for-beginners/what-can-i-buy-with-bitcoins/amp)

I am going to share an experience: I bought a phone on a local e-commerce platform and I asked the seller if he accepted Bitcoin and he said yes and we proceeded to make the payment method and I was able to pay for my phone with Bitcoin. Try this idea if it suits you.

Legalization is the biggest problem in accepting crypto payments because if the government does not approve bitcoins as legal then you cannot accept bitcoins payments. Apart from that the next problem is not everyone is well versed with bitcoins and you are unlikely to find many people who will want to pay with bitcoins.

if somehow you break these barriers and accept bitcoins and you have enough clients too then the biggest problem that comes is transaction fees and confirmation time because you cannot assume someone is going to wait for confirmation after having a cup of team right? Plus one cannot pay high transaction fees either so bitcoins in daily use is hard to be implemented but for sure digital payments is the right place to accept payments in crypto.

There are countries where you can't use cryptocurrency but there are lots of international shops where you can purchase stuff using crypto. We're lucky because in our country, we're able to purchase different things in our local online shop using crypto specifically Bitcoin and Ethereum using our local crypto wallet. We can even pay bills using it. Adoption is really what we need so more countries and merchants would accept crypto. Just have the patience for now. Things will get better for crypto in the future.

There are only few shops that accept the crypto in some countries, but it doesn't mean that crypto is useless, because there are still so many ways to convert crypto into fiat, in short we can still used crypto by converting it first into fiat with the help of different exchange, and through fiat we can buy things that we need. In my country  there are no shops that accept crypto that is why we need wallet or exchange that can convert crypto to fiat and after converting we cam freely used our fiat to buy. So there is no problem at all even if there are no shop that accept crypto as long as it is convertable.

You are the same guy who used to offer your services for bitcoins and now after you had a bad time with forum you are questioning how one can use bitcoins? if you have forgot then please see the reference here - (thanks to Foxpup) https://archive.fo/HIjkM

You cannot find shops where you can spend bitcoins but there are numerous ways of spending bitcoins and you can buy anything with bitcoins if you are smart enough. For example you can get amazon and 100+ giftcards on bitrefill with bitcoins and with that you can shop so that is one way and apart from that there are credit cards which can be reloaded with bitcoins and then you can spend them wherever you want to. As long as you are smart enough you can spend bitcoins and buy everything or anything.

There are many ways to spend bitcoin using your intellect in addition to credit cards crypto-currency mining is a process in which various types of cryptocurrency transactions are verified and added to blockchain digital accounts. I can also buy a lot from the store by converting it into fiat currency is used everywhere fiat is the most convenient when cryptocurrencies are not used in many parts of the world.

Cryptos are not useless. There are indeed areas or countries wherein most of the services are not accepting such technology as a mode of payment, but that doesn't define its usefulness. Majority of the people who are in this industry are making use of cryptos full potential. Some are able to use it in order to experience convenience regarding online transactions, they are the lucky ones at some point. But to those who are living in countries wherein cryptos are not yet being widely used or accepted by their governments, most of them are using cryptos as means of investment because of its volatile marketvalue, which I think is very beneficial for the investors. Who knows, right? What if someday cryptos are globally used in every transactions? Let us all wait and for now, be patient.

i more or less agree with you. there is not a really practical use case of crypto yet. But we buy crypto as an investment only. Cryptocurrencies are not for short term but in near future, blockchain technology will start dominating most of financial ecosystems.

You are probably not serious about bitcoin and crypto being useless. In all over the world there are many places where they accept crypto as a payment method. As avikz mentioned above, using websites like https://coinmap.org/ you can see a complete, worldwide map where you can spend  your cryptocurrencies or cash it using an ATM. However, if you don't wanna go due to the covid-19 out and prefer to use the online marketplaces, you will have much more options and more places where they accept cryptocurrencies as a payment method.

Dude i am from the beginning in the crypto world ... i even built an exchange platform similar to localcryptos ... what i am telling you  is beside trading,gambling,money laundering and a few online websites that accept it ,crypto is useless...

Exchange 1 usd worth of crypto back to fiat ... can you do it ?
Or 5 usd worth of crypto exchange to fiat ...

Real cash can not even be compared to crypto ... If i have 1 usd in my pocket i can go to any store and buy a candy ... can you do that with crypto ?
Why in the world is 1 bitcoin worth 10k ? Does it make sense ? or maybe some corrupt rich dudes moving money or trying to hide their illegal activities ... Dark money it's the only thing that keeps bitcoin alive.

Sure we got the blockchain ... Jesus Christ it self ... the blockchain ... beside cryptocurrency and a few other uses where you need to use a database that must not be centralized it has no use ...

Even the smart contracts are useless ,you can't use randomness with them ,hard to implement with hardware ,hard to implement in dapps ,you got to audit them ,not user friendly( How do i explain to my grandpa smart contracts ?)...and on and on ,problems after problems with crypto ...

You do not have to find something new for bitcoin to mean anything, it doesn't need to be filled to any crypto card or whatever, you do not have the find a place to spend it neither on real places neither because you can spend it on many many online places, do not forget that many business' are just online these days without any shops you have to go to.

Bitcoin is not valuable because you can spend it somewhere, and if someone says where you can spend it, you don't have to say any place. We do not buy anything with gold bars neither but they do have a value as well, if you can find a place that accepts gold bar payments you can pay it but that is rare so it is same for bitcoin, why would people not be worried that gold bar is not spent anywhere but has value which is the norm, but be worried about bitcoin not accepted worldwide but have value?

So let's just say the truth and be honest ... crypto currency is no longer currency ...it's just an asset/good or stock etc ....CryptoCurrency is dead .

And also the price is manipulated by Chinese ... binance and coinmarketcap as example ( Why in the world a chinese trading platform would want to buy coinmarketcap ? What use ? Beside using it to manipulate the price of cryptos ...)

Have you ever been updated on what you country stands about crypto usage? Maybe that is the first thing that you must check before going ranting about crypto of being useless just because you cannot spend it. Cryptocurrencies are very useful if you really do have a freedom on using it which is can be dependent on what your government stands and believes about crypto usage for it concerns legalization and wide adaption that are keys to be able for the people to directly spend their cryptocurrencies whenever they wanted because the government and the people are widely accepting the fact that cryptocurrencies do exist and it have a purpose and usage. The reason why you cannot use it directly and freely is because of certain issues with regards to legalization and mass adaption which once solve can give you a chance of experiencing the privileges thar cryptocurrencies can do provide.

Here are some services that you can use bitcoin to be a payment system https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259548.0

You came to the right forum mate, there is legal issue when you look on google search and indeed there won't any service which you can pay bitcoin as a mean of payment.

Like in my country, there is no merchant who will accept bitcoin as a mean of payment and yeah you won't ever seen any information in google search. I guess, you have find a lot of information first before you tell bitcoin is usesless because the fact is not like that.

 i searched the word " buy with bitcoin " on google and i came up with so many results . this includes article sites that list all the sites that accepts bitcoin and also side answers where the site was already posted plus the items that they sold . so how come why you didnt  got such results  ? are you sure you use google or maybe your drunk and you have used other search engines  but crypto is not that new to not see a store that accepts it  . crypto has a value and you can use it for trade , investment  and paying if your having a hard time of finding a store that accepts it  .

Interestingly there is a big deal about how amazon, steam and many other places started to accept bitcoin in 2017 period, but they stopped accepting it, which means there was HUGE names that accepted bitcoin, but everyone seemed to forgot about this in the end and asking where they can spend it nowadays.

Places like MICROSOFT which is huge, overstock, newegg, expedia, and even starbucks for certain things all accept bitcoin, these are HUGE companies and I can't believe people still trying to understand or see where it could be spent, why would anyone deny these huge names to make bitcoin look like it is useless. Obviously this is nothing compared to what it will be like in the future, in 5 to 10 years time we are going to have billions of dollars worth companies accepting it and I wonder what they will say about that.

Well in my country we also have limited use of bitcoin but we prior t keep the coins on holding as investments.
Hope you learn to do so because it is not only the use to buy product or service but it can be a profit provider for long term.

it is sad to say that a currency like bitcoin are keeping hold but for now this is the only way we can be safe in this until the adoption finally happens soon.

This is a funny question. Although I am not going to blame, it’s the people that keeps saying that Bitcoin is a currency and making people to see it the wrong way. Asking this kind of question is like asking which shops you can spend your gold; you already know the answer, there is no shop where you will buy something offline and they will request for gold, they will always request for cash and nothing more. Bitcoin is something similar, and mainly I see it as peer-to-peer.

But, there are still online shops that are legit and are accepting Bitcoin as payment, though it’s not the big names that you are expecting like the Amazon and the rest of them, and they may not accept it because it doesn’t suit their business, so they will go with the stable fiat and accept payments with debit cards or PayPal (which is the same). I have used Bitcoin for years for so many transactions and none of them were for purchasing anything online.

There are more shops accepting crypto even do you search in google you can see it everything in there.
By the where are you from and what kind of question is this and Ill think you live in the forest It was funny that you said you cant find any even you search in google. Actually in my country there are shops in here accepted as payment and then you tell me crypto is useless.

Actually, crypto is not about buying stuff online; you can not blame bitcoins just because your store isn't accepting it or unable to find any store.
Crypto is something about earning profit with the investment. I mostly do trade and earn a high profit. After that, I convert my coins into fiat by exchanging it.
Anyways there's some website that accepts bitcoin, and I use them sometimes. Bitrefill.com and for exchanging https://coinmap.org/

Crypto is much useful and not useless. There are lots of selected digital stores anywhere in the globe that accepted it directly if you will just try to research more. The links and lists given by others here, is definitely a big help to you and to anybody. Its not the only thing alone that you could see and prove the use of crypto currencies. Its a big help to us in anything, not just in purchasing goods online, but its also convertible into cash/fiat money that you can actually use in everyday living.

Did you really do a research or just simple guessing about your words?

Check it here the merchants who accept bitcoins https://www.buybitcoinworldwide.com/who-accepts-bitcoin/

And read the article so you can find and answer your questions there.


People just say that because they don't know how to use it and lazy to research the informations while it's so available in the net.

You are just another in a series of completely useless anti-crypto trolls who selectively respond to posts and avoid those who ruin their pointless statements. Since you state that crypto is only suitable for gambling, trading and money laundering, I will once again give you the opportunity to see how wrong you actually are.


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You can buy everything you wanted with bitcoin, just buy amazon gift cards using bitcoin then buy everything you wanted with that gift cards.And also there are lot of websites which accept Bitcoin but it may not be available in your country.

Crypto is never useless during this times that we already achieved some mass adoption for almost 10 years.

If you think that cryptocurrency is useless, try to make it much beneficial in your own way. Do it yourself, don't give up on cryptocurrency just because it has only a limited features that you can use to it. We just need to wait for a global adoption to see the full potential of bitcoin to become the most quality asset during our times. Before, cryptocurrency can't be really used in a transaction due to its unknown importance and value in the market.

Here in the Philippines, not much shops who are accepting cryptocurrency for payments. In our country, we have 7,107 islands. Most of the shops that are accepting crypto payments are in the National Capital Region. But in my area (Visayas Group of Islands), there are two Crypto Cafes (Roxas City and Iloilo City) and I’ve visited one of them a couple of years ago. However that time, they haven’t adopted crypto yet (but maybe they do now because of the name itself). There’s also a shop in Cebu City where they only accept cryptocurrencies and not cash, but I’m not sure where exactly it is.

Actually, even in the capital there are limited companies which are accepting Bitcoin as a method of payment. That is because Bitcoin is not that popular to the majority of people. I've asked 10 of my friends about it, but only two of them are familiar with this technology and most of them only heard it but are not certain of its usage. This is not applicable to everyone but knowing that support is lacking still, it will be hard in this country to make use of it to buy things directly. There are partnerships wherein companies are using third parties such as coins app, dragonpay and the likes but fees are high and you'll more likely convert it to fiat in order to purchase goods online. There are some small businesses who does but there's only a few and most of it are not that popular.

Crypto is a trading asset or investment instrument. Use naming as you want but it still not a currency, sorry

What's your problem bruh?

It seems you'll always find something wrong with every single solution that people gave to you lol
If you found nothing then simply creates one , i mean if you found no store to spend your bitcoin ... think that you can start your own store and make business out of it.
If you think bitcoin is too slow and has too high fee transaction,  try other coins that has a solution to that.
You are looking for a problem not a solution i guess  ???
Come on.

Well, I think OP is trying to prove that crypto is useless but everytime he throw something there's always a right answer but he's not into them. It's true that crypto might be different from FIAT but there are still shops who do offer Bitcoin as payment and you can't say there's none. And just because you can't find one it doesn't mean that crypto is useless already.

Trading and gambling isn't useless too!

And I don't understand why people cannot sell their bitcoins for fiat and then buy anything they want. I mean yes Bitcoins will take a long time to be accepted on local shops but when you can easily sell your bitcoins and get cash or money in your bank then why do people even find payment method via Bitcoins baffles me.

I would also feel great to directly pay with bitcoins but there are a lot of problems like transaction fees and confirmation time so it is better to sell bitcoins and load your bank and then make purchases. Also if you don't want money in your bank for some reason then you can always buy a virtual card with BTC and you can reload it anytime you want through bitcoins, there are many providers out there if you want.

Actually there is still a huge gap in terms of acceptance of bitcoins in payments but I believe this problem will be solved very soon as Paypal has announced that they will now support crypoto currencies on their platform which I think means now users can pay through crypto via Paypal and if someone doesn't find shops/websites that accepts Paypal then really I don't know what they accept.

I also think more merchants will accept bitcoins once the Paypal move works out smoothly because being accepted and recognized by paypal simply gives confidence to other merchants on directly accepting bitcoins. By the way I do all my recharges, amazon shopping and food orders via bitcoins through Bitrefill coupons.

Most in the consensus does not have that much shop that have a bitcoin integrated in their transaction system. Volatility might be the number one reason that businesses do not integrate them in the first place, imagine your coffee shop updating their price from time to time so they can get a profit and as a customer, I do not want to see that my favorite food to order just keeps on changing its prices, the system to update precisely is very expensive especially for small businesses.

The involvement of paypal into bitcoin isn't gonna make more merchants start accepting bitcoin. These days people used to exchange bitcoin for fiat and use it on regular needs. Paypal hasn't made its direct involvement with bitcoin related business, its service is supported by one of the exchange platform paxos. If the bitcoin association with paypal helps widening stores to accept bitcoin then it'll truly boost the bitcoin market high.

Actually there is a POSSIBILITY for changes to occur. PayPal is a huge network being used accross huge services and in partner with many companies. It may develop trust for the merchants. The transactions indeed involve convertion into fiat but not all people are aware of that. Some businesses have tendencies to just accept crypto as payment because a huge network does, not knowing how transactions are really doing. It is quite of a "fraud" in this case, but once more people are exposed to this technology, it may be a catalyst for other businesses to also do so. Since at this moment PayPal and crypto payments are just limited to some states, it would be hard to conclude. Once more countries see the advantages of using crypto, the possibility could be in reality.