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Satoshi is not creator there is more evidence that bitcoin is created by the banks!!

Let's stop this delusion and utopia btc is created by the jp Morgan and That's. The whole cryptocurrency is created by yale university guys the coinbase jp Morgan the cashh app they all the same people.

Its not Satoshi 100%

Did you get dropped on your head or something?

If all you have are wild theories, please refrain from posting.  Some of us have brain cells left that we'd like to preserve and reading your posts places them in great jeopardy.

It doesn't matter who made Bitcoin.  It's ours now.

I almost choked laughing when I read this post  :D, but seriously men why does the bank would create bitcoins at the first place? Maybe your researching on wrong direction that's why you drop that theories here and also it's kinda crazy statement which is so hard to believe. I suggest to stop reading whatever crazy articles you are reading right now and focus on where you can earn and make your time more valuable.

Well, it's just like what everybody wants to know about some people that are claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto or what we believe created Bitcoin, proof of keys on the Bitcoin wallet that is known to be owned by Satoshi Nakamoto before when Bitcoin started.

I agree to DooMAD which it doesn't matter anymore who made Bitcoin now.
Let's say for example, you are correct, they are the founder or created Bitcoin, what will happen? Even Satoshi Nakamoto will pop now and able to access those wallet before with lot of Bitcoins, what will happen? Does it mean Bitcoin will be shutdown? I don't think so!

Well, then provide us that evidence showing that the banks created bitcoin.
I don't know why but just simply curious about this theory on why banks would create BTC that they cannot control at all. Also, if banks created bitcoin then why banks hate it.

I noticed that some of the posts of the OP are not really making sense. I don't know why he's doing that but I think he needs to take time to contemplate on things and get a grip on reality. Is he just posting for fun? I don't think he aimed to get serious discussion out of his random ideas. Just my 2 cents. So let's just ignore what he posted here.  :P

If you look at the economics thread, you can see that OPs threads is everywhere and I agree that most of his threads are either nonsense or confusing the community so I don't know how this guy isn't banned yet.

It's clear that he is trolling and having fun at that. He probably loves the attention since he's getting laugh at most of the time.

I honestly think the guy is just having a good laugh. No sane or serious person would say that. But just in case he's either of the above, then I think nutcases should be expunged from this forum

We are the one who are running bitcoin legacy right now, Satoshi will still remain mystery and historical in terms of cryptocurrency.

Just let him be mysterious so that the identity of the bitcoin creator will still give us a thrill in using it.

I just don't understand why people are getting curious and making false information towards Satoshi Nakamoto. Maybe we should just focus on it, and grow our bitcoin when we make it as our asset. But at the end of the day, all of the credits should go towards Satoshi Nakamoto for making a crypto that can change our lives.

you solved it man, thank you for opening our eyes
it is good that you shared all the evidence here, not just your words without any meaning

Share some proofs that what you are saying is true then we will decide if Bitcoin truly isn't been created by Satoshi or it is :).

Text isn't enough to relay what you are saying to us. Bitcoin created by the banks?? I don't think so. If its not Satoshi then who the F*ck created Bitcoin then??
If its the banks then share some proofs here so that we will believe in what you are saying :P.

Well it seems logical that Bitcoin was created by a team of people, and that they used a pseudonym or a figure head to launch the project. Banking is really controlled by the wealthy dynasties, and they needed to experiment with various alternatives to replace the dying fiat currencies. Bitcoin would appear to be one of the more successful of these. The 21 million cap, and the average 10 minute block generation time mean that it can never become a general currency for everyday transactions. The 21 million cap also means that the bankers can control Bitcoin by purchasing large numbers of coins, and this has the added benefit of further increasing their wealth.

Bitcoin is no longer "ours", but we can use it to our advantage, provided that we work with the financial institutions and governments that are now using it as a store of wealth. We need to use the changes to our advantage, and not try to fight the massive sums of money that are flooding into the Bitcoin economy.

This would be one of the biggest joke around here in the forum maybe you forgot to mention that it was just a total joke at the ending of your post?
If you would really want to push this theory at least give out a solid evidence on your claims.

I think it's quite possible.

However if OP can't figure out that that really doesn't matter then they need to up their Adderrall infusion. Its fate is in the hands of the people who populate its system. They're the ones who decide its course and its future and there's no possible way of pulling the wool over their eyes.

It's not seems it was created by the bank or jp Morgan.Your theory was not acceptable one by the forum people.Do you have any valid proof for that theory.Because only valid and proved theory was accepted by people.When the person said world was circle,no one accepted.It was later accepted by the valid proof.Who invented is doesn't a matter of now.It's our asset for now.

Yes, it might be that the team actually included bankers. However, it doesn't mean they weren't Satoshi because we don't know who Satoshi is. And, to be honest, even though it can be argued that Bitcoin could be created by banks, I don't think this is truly the case. After all, it appeared as an alternative, and it appeared when banks failed spectacularly, causing the global economic crisis by their games and getting bailouts anyway. And a part of Bitcoin is ours if we own and use it. I don't believe Bitcoin is controlled by any corporation or a conglomerate of them. I think it might be occasionally manipulated (the price), but without a long-term effect. Bitcoin is ours.

I think you have a problem with your head right now? Are you still alright mate?
Do you have any kind of references so most of us will know what you are talking about?
Even the google agree that Satoshi Nakamoto is the creator of the bitcoin if you can change the answer on any search engine that bitcoin is created by banks without using the f12/inspect element there is chance that I believe you.
https://i.imgur.com/MbMQCpH.png


This kind of thread will just up another issues with satoshi nakamoto and becomes a reason why people getting more curious. Is this only a strategy of OP to spread a news to become more active the bitcoin? hmm. I don't think so.

 ;D

Keep your delusional conspiracy theorem to yourself, Bitcoin is greater than what you are trying to attribute to the Central Banks. The government can't sponsor such a great innovation.
Well, We are more or less concerned with who those Yale university students are/were. It is now solving pressing issues faced by humans daily so, we don't actually care.

OK.

Then give a reliable source for your claim. It's not more of an opinion but you are thinking of stating a fact that no one will believe you. Do you think that it now makes sense with those conspiracy theories that you have?

Just leave satoshi alone and be grateful that we have BTC.

We should thank the OP for this thread, it really shows that there are a lot of conspiracy theory behind, bankers, even Pablo Escobar’s Descendants Claim to Have Known Satoshi Nakamoto (https://news.bitcoin.com/pablo-escobars-descendants-claim-to-have-known-satoshi-nakamoto/).

However, for bitcoin enthusiast, it was Satoshi who started bitcoin and even though we have so many conspiracies out there, it won't change a thing.

At first: STOP LISTENING TO THE LEGENDS !!  They are here for a reason....

And YES, Satoshi doesn't exist and was a Magic Pink Unicorn created for this purpose!

Bitcoin is created by IBM after stealing the Blockchain from creator David Chaum.
A couple of years later C. Dwork from IBM created the consensus POW mechanism and this was put in place
as the POW consensus protocol instead of the way the early consensus worked.
The reason they did this, is because THIS is the part where they have full control over the chain.

The first milion+ Bitcoin, referred as the Satoshi Bitcoins are mined in The Netherlands.
Supercomputer center S.A.R.A  back then, now called SurfSARA.
Back in 2009 SARA owned the Huygens Supercomputer with serious IBM power
( IBM System p-575 , 3328 x POWER6 @ 4,7 GHz + IBM System p5-575 , 1920 × POWER5+ @ 1,9 GHz )

It is not only IBM mastering this project, if you search you will find (much) more BIG companies involved.
Such as a company in Cupertino :)  

I said it before: LOTS of people where fooled what Bitcoin was. And now you also understand why Lightning was added...
POW means control of the network by computer power en LN was added to get control of the (future) transactions.

They created the Satoshi DOGMA to blind the people and stop you from searching in the right way.
Your feeling was right and don't get fooled by the Legends, they just do -their work- and CAN NOT be trusted!

I was surprised to read his post OP should have posted it on the Joke thread if its available here why will someone just wake up and say cryptocurrencies was created by  banks? despite all the glaring evidences of whitepapers, articles e.t.c about bitcoin, he should be aware that the implication of adopting cryptos by many investors will leads to many banks closure, a lot of people will utilize cryptos as a store of value to detriment of the banks, the OP need more education and enlightenment so as to be kept abreast of creation ofbitcpon

he can't. because if he has he would have already posted it. he's only evidence is gut feelings and nothing more. sometimes I feel like having a "bitcoin conspiracy theory board" would be nice so people with thoughts like OP would leave bitcoin discussion and other boards alone.

your title is verry serious but the content is half funny . can you show that " more evidence " your saying while you dont need to show evidence that btc is built by satoshi because we already know that ,

theres alot of evidence left on the internet that satoshi did built btc althought he didnt create the whole cryptocurrency ecosystem but there are other people thats behind for that  . there are crypto that are created by banks or related to banks and one of it is ripple  .

Not like there's anything that could change even if we knew about the "truth" of BTC. Even if it was the average joe in your work that made it, or the nerd/geek gang of your hs alumni, or just banks messing with the financial word and made this, nothing would change, BTC is there, it basically runs through the community now. Look at how CSW tried to capitalize on the name of Satoshi, and look at where that went, a lawsuit. Not really sure about what happened about said lawsuit though.

there is no proof you can give, it sounds like nonsense, so what's the benefit if it was founded by the BANK, bitcoin belongs to all of us here, everything is watching and transactions look widely open, even when viewed from the BANK and BTC systems it's clear very different

As long as it's open source, audited, and no one could tamper with it, we do not care anymore whether who Satoshi really is. What is important is that we are now benefiting from lots of its services which allows us to do things we cannot do before such as transacting anonymously and faster than ever.

I just wonder what comes out from your mind to think that Banks created Bitcoin when in fact, Bitcoin's whitepaper already eliminated the purpose of third party intermediaries and one big example is banks.

An appropriately title but the content may contain something half curiosity if does it have any concrete evidence to prove that the bank created bitcoin and not Satoshi and half funny instead. Something funny to think if ever the bank created it coz as we all know bitcoin or cryptocurrency was decentralised and volatile, non of the banks have a control on it. So why do insist this certain topics without proof attached??

You have been claiming that for a year already, and yet you failed to provide supporting statements that will clarify your idea which you see in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5177083.msg52332852#msg52332852). As the creator of bitcoin has remained anonymous, until now, there has been a different speculative. So, why don't you present your analysis, the documents, and articles that discuss bitcoin is created by banks? In doing so, people can validate your statements and perceive your point.

Your statement will tend to confuse newbies when they first read this without deep research about bitcoin. But, as for me, I do believe its Satoshi Nakamoto who created bitcoin with his brilliant mind and sense its already popular and widely used now, a lot of pretentious individuals were claiming that they were Satoshi and so many statement about how bitcoin was made just to go with the trend. And if we try to look on the other side of the story, its really rediculous and so impossibe that banks will produce this kind of digital currency.
The other one above is right, bitcoin is ours now and it doesnt matter who created it, yet we are truly grateful to Satoshi for we are savoring now the fruit of all his labor several years ago.

Haha, that will boost his attention and cognitive abilities... Maybe that's causing overthinking from it and as a result we got that... Or that maybe will get him lit till he is gone away.

Btw that's really possible, everything is possible until we know exact answer. But there are some reasons why I exclude this opinion:
1. Money is laundered via banks without problems, it's more likely done by elite people and serious businessmen. And this is done through Deutche Bank and other major banks... So bitcoin isn't their segment, more likely bitcoin is for average people or a little bit higher ones.
2. If this was done by banks, I still believe that this couldn't be keep as a secret and there would be some infos leaked...
3. If this was done by banks, then governments would know a lot about bitcoin and blockchain technologies from the very beginning. If you see, in past it was easiest to scam but was very hard for governments to track users. Otherwise, I believe a lot of people would be caught because of charging a lot of bitcoins, it would be beneficial for governments.

But at the same time yeah, it could be done by banks or by governments and they may act like it's nothing from their sides as it should be. It's perfect act when you act like 0% of real yourself, when you act with 0% doubt.

You drop post almost looking wield that one can't explain your reason and you don't include source for your position
Which bank exactly you point for the bitcoin innovation?
Pointing to link for your assumption will make the research better found.

Sorry, you need some urgent medical attention? Where are you from?must you make a post, instead of constitution nuisance, take time to learn first.
When you are okay, read, Satoshi Nakamoto still remains the inventor of bitcoin, nothing changes that and now we are all enjoying bitcoin and it ours. No matter how much of it we have honor still remains for the great inventor. 

Focusing on the investors doesn't needed one for now.We should grateful to have a luckiest asset we have in our hand.With that we can do trade and earn from it.Most of world economy is based of cryptocurrency now.All the credits will move to bitcoin for sure.The popularity of bitcoin had increased the investor into it.Bitcoin 3.0 also come in near future.

He's always giving those thoughts that are extremely uncommon and only him understands it. We don't know how he's coming up with those theories or any sort of speculation about bitcoin and other topics that's related to it.

He has made a lot of threads that have no proof or can't prove anything what he says. The next time that he'll create a thread that's out of his opinion, he should add some facts on it.

Are you serious man? You are making fun here, you should include first the article or the sources you read about that or it is just your conclusion from your own? How could a bank create a bitcoin if both things are separated from each other, as we all know bitcoin or any cryptocurrency is decentralized which is different from the real world of the physical bank?

Maybe you should do great research first before concluding something, you are changing the well-known information to many people without any proof.

Do not spam man, if you don't have something good topic to say then just comment on some topics.

I can only think of fud. I really think the price could still take a dip before it will go up, you don't need to claim who created BTC anymore, they are out of the equation now that it had become decentralized and mining farms are everywhere. Whether banks created it, David Chaum, and the ultimate liar CSW, they still will fail to prove it. All that matters now is that all of us are part of the network that runs the blockchain.

Satoshi is just a name used to represent as the creator of Bitcoin. Nobody know whether it's a team or a single person. You could be right with your conspiracy theory, but those people who believes Satoshi as the creator can't be wrong, as it will always be the universal name to represent as the creator of Bitcoin, since nobody has the clue to identify the creator.
 So, I don't see any arguments here.

Bitcoin will not cause the closure of banks, as they are already creating their own pseudo-crypto currency based on the knowledge they gained from Bitcoin, and the sophisticated software developed by the core programmers. What a great research project it has turned out to be.

Bank closures will be caused by the need to lose the toxic fiat debts that they used to purchase hard assets (including Bitcoin).

It is funny that someone who is a user of bitcoin would think that the banks created bitcoin. The first thing to ask is why. Why would the banks create a currency that is beyond their control? Why would they decide to give the control of money over to the people by creating bitcoin? Trust me, the banks wouldn't do that. The government wouldn't allow that.
It is true we do not know who created bitcoin and it is true so many people have claimed to be Satoshi, still I do not think we need to bother ourselves with this, the only thing that matters now is that bitcoin belongs to the people

So who is the strong opposite group of people who created bitcoin?
Who is so strong opposite against governments and banks?
Only poor and middle-class.
You think they had power and knowledge to create btc?? 
Sure not

Are you playing to be Delusional or you are?

Seems like you do lack of sleep and do able to affect your brain the way of thinking.  :D

Okay lets say that Banks had created BTC then how the hell they do consider a thing where it totally opposes their own centralized system. No one in the right mind
in doing that.

Lets say they are making this for show? Well, that will totally mess up their reputation instead rather than getting support or recognition from people.If you dont believe then
its up to you.

You should even think that if banks do create Bitcoin then it is most likely had been deleted now or wiped out since its already getting some attention now.
People had considered on going decentralized.

Bitcoin is a decentralized currency that is not control by the government. Satoshi Nakamoto is the creator of bitcoin before the banks started using it for investment transaction. I have carry out many research but getting the some result concerning the founder of bitcoin.
I think Satoshi Nakamoto is the creator of bitcoin not bank that create bitcoin. Bank is not the founder of bitcoin you need to redo your research very well to know truly Satoshi is the creator of bitcoin.

Why should I want to break my head of thinking about the founder or developer? Everyone knows it has made for a good cause and it goes on quite simple. I really don't understand why few of them are concerned about this.

I feel like this is a unnecessary argument mentioning that banks might have developed and so on. Just make use of the technology that's it from my end.

That is the purpose, to make use of it for the growth and development of the world. The world need an easy kind of life and bitcoin is playing such too. We are experiencing a great technology and it is helping in all angles that blockchain is helping also in storage of information and data code.

And what evidence do you have that the banks created Bitcoin? We have plenty of evidence to support Satoshi, i'd like to see some of yours just to be able to compare.


He fell out of his stroller a few times, doctors sad it was nothing serious :D

Your post makes me giggle, anyway. For what reason does the bank would make bitcoins.
You may not be mindful, but rather banks are against blockchain innovation, and they'll never acknowledge it as a benefit or money.
Discussing Satoshi, I consider that Satoshi doesn't claim bitcoin since nobody realizes where he is and is still escaping from the world even in the wake of getting a lot of notoriety.

No, Bitcoin was not created by the banks. Your thoughts of delusion is just that, delusional. I would suggest you go seek professional help for your strange thoughts, because they are clearly not normal thinking.

As for the banks, they mainly dislike Bitcoin as they see it as a threat to their businessmodel.

I don't care who Satoshi Nakamoto and who created Bitcoin, the most important thing is as long as Bitcoin can benefit me,
that's enough for me. And please do not speculate without proof and reason, I'm afraid that many newbies will get misleading
because information like in the opening post. And I'm confused you read the article where, until having theory the Bitcoin
created banks.

We might not give them much choice.  Some crypto companies are already encroaching on their territory (https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/kraken-crypto-exchange-receives-unique-charter-to-operate-as-a-bank-2020-09-21) and trying to beat them at their own game.  If Kraken start a trend that other companies follow and these services can compete for customers, it could start taking a noticeable bite out of the legacy banking system's market share.  They can't simply ignore it anymore.