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Title: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: Pffrt on October 15, 2020, 06:02:17 PM
I'm looking for Ludo, Carrom or 8 ball pool which have BTC payment option and can be played with another person on the other side. I have not seen one yet. If there's any, please share your experience.
And why don't anyone develoo such a platform? I think there are a lot of fan of 8 ball pool and it can be a popular one if it would allow playing with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: harizen on October 15, 2020, 06:14:39 PM

For 8-Ball Pool, I think there's no website or app that integrated bitcoin yet. Anyone can correct me with this. But before, there are several threads involving the MiniClip's 8-ball pool created here. I don't know if their game becomes a success so just browse at these threads:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=899301.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896402.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=897112.0

And if remembered correctly, I think last year, I suggested having a tournament of 8-ball pool but only one user shows interest in it so I didn't push for it.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: panjul07 on October 15, 2020, 06:18:03 PM
I'm looking for Ludo, Carrom or 8 ball pool which have BTC payment option and can be played with another person on the other side. I have not seen one yet. If there's any, please share your experience.
And why don't anyone develoo such a platform? I think there are a lot of fan of 8 ball pool and it can be a popular one if it would allow playing with bitcoin.

When it comes to pvp based game with skill required such as 8 ball pool, I think there is high chance that people will create a bot.
A bot that can play the game with high chance to win every single game.
Other reason is about its fairness, I think it is hard to implement fair system on such game and will be hard to verify whether you are playing against real player (human) or bot.
Not all popular game are suitable to be implemented in gambling industry, casino's owner must have many things to consider obviously.
A popular game such as ludo or 8 ball pool that has so many fans, does not a guarantee that it will be a success when it is being implemented into gambling.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: Pffrt on October 15, 2020, 06:23:22 PM

And if remembered correctly, I think last year, I suggested having a tournament of 8-ball pool but only one user shows interest in it so I didn't push for it.
A tournament would be pretty good to have but if there was enough participants. I think if anyone can arrange, there will certainly be some participants. But it's true what panjul said, bot can play and win every game most of the times. May be that's the reason why we don't see such games.
I will create a thread soon to arrange a 8 ball pool tournament and check out if there's any interest at all from the community.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: ryzaadit on October 15, 2020, 06:33:02 PM
Because PVP Game was really hard to be famous.

Everyone just doesn't have time to wait other player joined and fill the spot, so because of that's most people who betting online more like it betting against the house. I created a list PVP Game, so if you was really interested to PVP Game can see my thread for a few option PVP Game you want to be tried.

Here the thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256076.0


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: milewilda on October 15, 2020, 08:23:54 PM

And if remembered correctly, I think last year, I suggested having a tournament of 8-ball pool but only one user shows interest in it so I didn't push for it.
A tournament would be pretty good to have but if there was enough participants. I think if anyone can arrange, there will certainly be some participants. But it's true what panjul said, bot can play and win every game most of the times. May be that's the reason why we don't see such games.
I will create a thread soon to arrange a 8 ball pool tournament and check out if there's any interest at all from the community.
Would be a great idea on asking it out again.Im much aware of that 8-ball pool tournament that had just been suggested or talked in the past.So far there are still no sites that do offer on this
one but it would really be good if we do really see something like this in near future but for now we dont have any choice!

Because PVP Game was really hard to be famous.

This is the sad reality thats why we cant really see much of PvP games these days due for this reason where it doesnt really get that much attention.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: chaser15 on October 15, 2020, 08:47:58 PM

And why don't anyone develoo such a platform? I think there are a lot of fan of 8 ball pool and it can be a popular one if it would allow playing with bitcoin.

While the most gambling site is improving their security and anti-cheat programs, hackers and fraudsters are also improving their way to breach security and attempt to manipulate the game system. With that Player vs Player is not easy to implement.

Bots, hacks, etc. there are lots of questions that will be raised about the fairness of the game, or we are against a real player and not as a robot.

And even you are against a real player, we don't know if they are using some cheat engines to help them win.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 15, 2020, 09:45:52 PM
Bots, hacks, etc. there are lots of questions that will be raised about the fairness of the game, or we are against a real player and not as a robot.
^ Definitely right, this is the most problem of the P2P gambling site. The adoption is quite not getting far interest for most gamblers, because they probably think that this does not have provably fair or just something manipulated by the owner. That is the reason why they prefer to fight with the house edge because these are very easy to verify the fairness of the game. P2p was slowly dying in the gambling sector and I understand the probable cause of the situation.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: avikz on October 16, 2020, 06:26:27 AM
I'm looking for Ludo, Carrom or 8 ball pool which have BTC payment option and can be played with another person on the other side. I have not seen one yet. If there's any, please share your experience.
And why don't anyone develoo such a platform? I think there are a lot of fan of 8 ball pool and it can be a popular one if it would allow playing with bitcoin.

Unfortunately, there is none! I have not seen a single platform offering such great games for betting purpose! I personally have created a thread earlier to know but it seems casinos are more interested in slots or crash games rather than skill based games. Probably such kind of games increase their profitability rather tha p2p skill based gambling!


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: YOSHIE on October 16, 2020, 08:09:48 AM
I'm looking for Ludo, Carrom or 8 ball pool which have BTC payment option and can be played with another person on the other side.
Try to visit this game site: Topic: 8 Ball Pool + Any Other Multiplayer Game--- Bet with BTC ---Play with each other (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962358.0), however, I haven't tried it yet, it looks good to bet.

The game is managed by:@irfan_pak10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=350580), I read there can also add some other games, but I don't know such as: (Ludo, Carrom) can be added or not, however, you can PM @ irfan_pak10, communicate directly, for more.

Just try it, maybe it can help you.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: shoreno on October 16, 2020, 08:58:11 AM
Because PVP Game was really hard to be famous.

Everyone just doesn't have time to wait other player joined and fill the spot, so because of that's most people who betting online more like it betting against the house. I created a list PVP Game, so if you was really interested to PVP Game can see my thread for a few option PVP Game you want to be tried.

Here the thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256076.0

why its hard to be famous when we are now in the era of online / online gaming  . i think people right now are going to demand for online game or player vs player ( p2p ) including my self but before i was happy on the games with single player and offline but  now my taste change idk why but i feel alone playing games with no p2p support  . its not hard to be famous if the game or gambling site has a great elements that can surely magnet people to play on them  . waiting for other players just to start the game wont also be a problem if the site is popular  but btw your thread of pvp game can still help him if ever he did not found the thing that he was lookin for .


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: Wexnident on October 16, 2020, 10:06:10 AM
PVP games such as 8ball or the like are more suited for casual gaming and/or tournament based gaming. It really isn't suited for a platform where you bet against each other which is, really, it's just a competition and if it's as such, they would rather host a big one rather than a small 1v1's. As for casual gaming, well, there are already a lot of offline games and even online ones, iirc, my sister used to play something like 8ball in her phone with another player, probably hosted by Facebook if I recall correctly.

why its hard to be famous when we are now in the era of online / online gaming  . i think people right now are going to demand for online game or player vs player ( p2p ) including my self but before i was happy on the games with single player and offline but  now my taste change idk why but i feel alone playing games with no p2p support  . its not hard to be famous if the game or gambling site has a great elements that can surely magnet people to play on them  . waiting for other players just to start the game wont also be a problem if the site is popular  but btw your thread of pvp game can still help him if ever he did not found the thing that he was lookin for .
It's hard because you're adding that factor of betting. Online games are prevalent, yes, but with the added section of bets included, a lot of those players would probably bail since most of them actually play casually. Even if we do say that there's eSports that still ask for money, those are tournament-based, which makes the games big and the prizes bigger as well, add that to the big community included with it.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: stomachgrowls on October 16, 2020, 12:08:11 PM
Because PVP Game was really hard to be famous.

Everyone just doesn't have time to wait other player joined and fill the spot, so because of that's most people who betting online more like it betting against the house. I created a list PVP Game, so if you was really interested to PVP Game can see my thread for a few option PVP Game you want to be tried.

Here the thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256076.0

why its hard to be famous when we are now in the era of online / online gaming  . i think people right now are going to demand for online game or player vs player ( p2p ) including my self but before i was happy on the games with single player and offline but  now my taste change idk why but i feel alone playing games with no p2p support  . its not hard to be famous if the game or gambling site has a great elements that can surely magnet people to play on them  . waiting for other players just to start the game wont also be a problem if the site is popular  but btw your thread of pvp game can still help him if ever he did not found the thing that he was lookin for .

People can say that because we had already observed on what happened to those sites who had tried on creating a p2p one but in result it didnt really get much players.

We do love PvP on some people but not for all because they like to stick into dicing and slots.There's no much demand with PvP games but if you do really search it up there are a few
but not into those games that we do look for.

Also, people do have always that mindset when it comes to pvp games that they have always thought  that they might be playing against a bot or ai which make them lose.
Its one of the factors that really give out hindrance on most players.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: sunsilk on October 16, 2020, 12:46:08 PM
This is like the other games that are not yet listed on bookies or any casino that caters to p2p games. @OP, you can have the initiative and bet with others through making threads as posted by harizen and make a small 8 ball pool matches.

It will be fun as the thread that has been shared for 8 ball pool is no longer active. I think there will be players who would love to join with the same likes as the game. You can use escrow for your bets.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: Assface16678 on October 16, 2020, 02:18:08 PM
I'm looking for Ludo, Carrom or 8 ball pool which have BTC payment option and can be played with another person on the other side. I have not seen one yet. If there's any, please share your experience.
And why don't anyone develoo such a platform? I think there are a lot of fan of 8 ball pool and it can be a popular one if it would allow playing with bitcoin.
Maybe, it is because majority of the gamblers are more into cardgames, slots, dicegames and such. Gambling games of the above mentioned are not that popular in my opinion and that might be the reason why developers are also not pushing or giving that much support to games of the likes. It would be interesting to be honest but ofcourse, the majority of the 'consumers' would be more followed by the developers or gambling sites. Being a trend setter won't be that easy in this industry. New players are more interested in traditional gambling games and they are looking more towards bigger rewards among gambling sites rather than the kind of games being offered.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: dothebeats on October 16, 2020, 05:55:35 PM
Sign a petition with co-gamblers and maybe platforms will heed your call if enough attention is garnered. Usually, they don't host these games since there aren't that much interested in it. But yeah, P2P games like Miniclip's 8-ball pool could be a great game for gamblers to play against other opponents with their actual skill and not just luck. If I remember, there were a few people who were interested in having an 8-ball pool tournament in this forum, though that didn't attract much attention and was scrapped. As of right now, there are no known legitimate casinos hosting such games and events in their platforms.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: redsun114 on October 20, 2020, 12:46:29 PM
Sign a petition with co-gamblers and maybe platforms will heed your call if enough attention is garnered. Usually, they don't host these games since there aren't that much interested in it. But yeah, P2P games like Miniclip's 8-ball pool could be a great game for gamblers to play against other opponents with their actual skill and not just luck. If I remember, there were a few people who were interested in having an 8-ball pool tournament in this forum, though that didn't attract much attention and was scrapped. As of right now, there are no known legitimate casinos hosting such games and events in their platforms.
Actually house will have a lot more benefit in making such games since the do not need a bankroll because they are only taking money from both players and then whoever wins they release the money to that player. So, actually only the cost of development might be the only cost involved and then the house can earn unlimited money from such platforms once they generate enough traffic.

I wonder why there are no such platforms already in crypto market because surely someone would have the idea by now, maybe the players are not interested so yeah if we can make a petition and get a large number of users to sign it, we might grab a house's attention and it's beneficial for all.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: Casdinyard on October 20, 2020, 04:44:39 PM
Because PVP Game was really hard to be famous.

Everyone just doesn't have time to wait other player joined and fill the spot, so because of that's most people who betting online more like it betting against the house. I created a list PVP Game, so if you was really interested to PVP Game can see my thread for a few option PVP Game you want to be tried.

Here the thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256076.0

why its hard to be famous when we are now in the era of online / online gaming  . i think people right now are going to demand for online game or player vs player ( p2p ) including my self but before i was happy on the games with single player and offline but  now my taste change idk why but i feel alone playing games with no p2p support  . its not hard to be famous if the game or gambling site has a great elements that can surely magnet people to play on them  . waiting for other players just to start the game wont also be a problem if the site is popular  but btw your thread of pvp game can still help him if ever he did not found the thing that he was lookin for .
One reason why sports gambling is not that popular js because not all people who are into watching leagues of different sports are also into betting. Likewise with people who are into gambling, they are more into games aligned wuth the "traditional" gambling games like baccarat and poker as examples. Player-to-player games is somewhat "new" in this industry. I do get the point of it being interesting, but that I think is not enough in order to retain them in such category, if they are not really enjoying their experience in the first place.
And why don't anyone develoo such a platform? I think there are a lot of fan of 8 ball pool and it can be a popular one if it would allow playing with bitcoin.
There are platforms which are quite similar in the aspect of p2p. I am referring to livecasinos, but the difference is the game being played which are card games, but it still allows you to play against another player. Actually I am not sure if p2p platforms existed before but there might be a reason why it did not become popular.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: tbterryboy on October 20, 2020, 08:51:17 PM
There are no specific websites made for these because usually the players will meet their own after the first game and remove the house from between. I mean they always have the option to chat and when PvP games are being played there is always a chance that players will meet together and play directly. Also another problem is the waiting time because it is hard to imagine that big a community where every time someone is available to play the game at the same time you want to play.

I believe there are many threads about Player vs Player games and I was recently watching a thread where they offered to play Mobile Legends game for money which was a unique idea and there might exist some threads for 8 Ball Pool but surely no one would play Ludo I guess for money ;D.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: harizen on October 20, 2020, 09:15:36 PM

If anyone likes a Miniclip 8-ball pool tournament, we can set up it here.

At least we can manage to find at least 10 interested players then we are good to go. I will organize it.

Might take a long time before we can see a platform integrating crypto on that kind of game.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: Ucy on October 21, 2020, 08:15:47 AM
Isn't the 8ball pool thesame as a game called snooker? Or is it a virtual version of physical snooker? I guess I know what Ludo means. Sounds like a game that is quite popular where I live. You could find it in lots homes for siblings, parents and their friends.
If they can be quite addictive without betting, I wonder what it will be like if people bet on them. Would be better if the game is informative or improve people who play then, so that even if they become addicted to them they would be getting improved at the same time.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: imstillthebest on October 21, 2020, 08:47:55 AM
Isn't the 8ball pool thesame as a board game called snooker? Or is it a virtual version of physical snooker? I guess I know what Ludo means. Sounds like a game that is quite popular where I live. You could find it in lots homes for siblings, parents and their friends.
If they can be quite addictive without betting, I wonder what it will be like if people bet on them. Would be better if the game is informative or improve people who play then, so that even if they become addicted to them they would be getting improved at the same time.

8ballpool is a billiard game . i dont know if what is that snooker game your saying but i searched it and i found out that its was simillar to billiard but the way it was played is not the same as billiard but it was a trick shot ? i seached ludo too and its like a snake and ladder board game but with a different board  . i didnt play the exact game but they can be fun to some people that are already familiar with the game but they want more than just playing but they wanted to make it as simillar to gambling  .

board games or just any other game have a benefit to human but becoming addictive is still a bad thing .


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: FontSeli on October 21, 2020, 10:32:28 PM
I'm looking for Ludo, Carrom or 8 ball pool which have BTC payment option and can be played with another person on the other side. I have not seen one yet. If there's any, please share your experience.
And why don't anyone develoo such a platform? I think there are a lot of fan of 8 ball pool and it can be a popular one if it would allow playing with bitcoin.

Such games can be organized on the basis of other gaming platforms. To do this, you need to find competitors, discuss the amount of bets in Bitcoins with them, and also find an escrow with a good reputation, which will receive contributions from all competitors and at the end of the game will give the winnings to the winner. This is certainly not the best option, but if such sites as you are looking for are missing, this option may be the solution to the problem.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: Ucy on October 22, 2020, 07:54:46 AM
Isn't the 8ball pool thesame as a board game called snooker? Or is it a virtual version of physical snooker? I guess I know what Ludo means. Sounds like a game that is quite popular where I live. You could find it in lots homes for siblings, parents and their friends.
If they can be quite addictive without betting, I wonder what it will be like if people bet on them. Would be better if the game is informative or improve people who play then, so that even if they become addicted to them they would be getting improved at the same time.

8ballpool is a billiard game . i dont know if what is that snooker game your saying but i searched it and i found out that its was simillar to billiard but the way it was played is not the same as billiard but it was a trick shot ? i seached ludo too and its like a snake and ladder board game but with a different board

Both look similar but I don't know much about them. Ludo is actually quite popular where I live. It's more like a dice game played on a small square board.



board games or just any other game have a benefit to human but becoming addictive is still a bad thing .

Well, it depends. The question is can people be addicted to good thing? And whether it's a good thing to be addicted to good thing?


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: erikoy on October 22, 2020, 08:01:27 AM
Such games can be organized on the basis of other gaming platforms. To do this, you need to find competitors, discuss the amount of bets in Bitcoins with them, and also find an escrow with a good reputation, which will receive contributions from all competitors and at the end of the game will give the winnings to the winner. This is certainly not the best option, but if such sites as you are looking for are missing, this option may be the solution to the problem.
Not an ideal but I thin this way could be also worth it a success. The process will take long that include the time for disucssion with the escrow and the other parties to create such agreement on using the escrow service unlike using a platform to which the site will act as the escrow and but still deductions will going to take place.

I do believe that there are platforms already that has this kind of game and this is also a trend nowadays due to pandemic all games resorted to becoming an esports where you play in a device or computer. It may be a little bit different but if you will going to get used in it the everything will be fine.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: jademaxsuy on October 22, 2020, 08:07:09 AM

board games or just any other game have a benefit to human but becoming addictive is still a bad thing .
Addiction will going to vary. I think in my case I become addictive to gambling when I think I still can play and has the money intended for that time to play. I can only stop when all of the money intended to play that time will gone or all will be lose.

It is alright for me to lose as long as I do enjoy playing the games with excitement together with friends may do better. This is my purpose in gambling to discuss with friends about how to win the games and then put it to application. Everyone has their own decisions and bet and we will only going to prove that we are right depending on the outcome of the bet.


Title: Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin
Post by: FontSeli on October 22, 2020, 01:35:36 PM
Such games can be organized on the basis of other gaming platforms. To do this, you need to find competitors, discuss the amount of bets in Bitcoins with them, and also find an escrow with a good reputation, which will receive contributions from all competitors and at the end of the game will give the winnings to the winner. This is certainly not the best option, but if such sites as you are looking for are missing, this option may be the solution to the problem.
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I do believe that there are platforms already that has this kind of game and this is also a trend nowadays due to pandemic all games resorted to becoming an esports where you play in a device or computer. I
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If you know such platforms, then why don't you tell the OP about it. He is just looking for similar sites.

Unfortunately, I did not meet such sites and suggested a possible solution to his question. It is certainly not the best, this solution has many problems.