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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: Polo7 on October 16, 2020, 09:38:10 AM



Title: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Polo7 on October 16, 2020, 09:38:10 AM
World is investing more money in Military coz They know this Military is needed to making sure we Still have law and order.

As They will not quut the debt system as its so good and profitable the World governments either can increase the spending on police and Military.
We the people just need to get use to with crisis
As whole world economy is turned into gigant casino but... Hey They can print more money
And by speculating on the markets many people can be Rich

I think the hyperinflation not a problem.
The solution is crisis.
I guess every year or so plus government can do debt forgiveness and complete restart.
Universal income also

Its just After 10 years crisis get use to it then Everything will start Again...
The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies.

Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is.
Also I Don't complain either the money printing makes cryptocurrency going up too.
So I think the debt and this money printing is beneficial.

And I think the Old way let it be... After 10years just little crisis then it will start like new game.
They have now strong aml kyc Rules all over the World so They can track the money and too much money can be eliminated and inflation rate will be normal Again.

Off Course people complain but this sysyem keeping capitalism going on and people with skills will just serve people who Got capital.

And bitcoin will be just instutionlized.
If you know the game you can be good Player in this Economic game..


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: palle11 on October 16, 2020, 12:12:37 PM

The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies.

Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is.


I don't accept it that Trump or whatever leader in the world and their elites has power to change the world. They can make policies but depends on the people to follow the policies. Power belongs to the people, therefore it is the people that have power to cause such global change. Most countries are now practicing democracy which is simply the government of the will of the people.

Power belongs to the people, check most revolution that caused change and removing of government are people oriented. From the recent succession in Africa to the times in the past in Asia, Europe etc.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Polo7 on October 16, 2020, 12:17:12 PM

The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies.

Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is.


I don't accept it that Trump or whatever leader in the world and their elites has power to change the world. They can make policies but depends on the people to follow the policies. Power belongs to the people, therefore it is the people that have power to cause such global change. Most countries are now practicing democracy which is simply the government of the will of the people.

Power belongs to the people, check most revolution that caused change and removing of government are people oriented. From the recent succession in Africa to the times in the past in Asia, Europe etc.



That's why they have strong Military power!!
They know that people might not like them but Military will keep the law and order anyways.

The situation is like more you resist more pain you couse for you instead fight just learn how to use system for your own advanced


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: sunsilk on October 17, 2020, 07:54:37 AM
I think the hyperinflation not a problem.
The solution is crisis.
Are you sure with these thoughts that you are delivering to us? How can hyperinflation be fine and not a problem when there's Venezuela that shows how bad this problem is and it's not entirely good for a country's economy.

You can't solve a problem(hyperinflation) with another problem(crisis). I don't get what's with your conclusions and solutions.

I guess every year or so plus government can do debt forgiveness and complete restart.
This won't happen.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Jet Cash on October 17, 2020, 09:01:53 AM
The power no longer lies with the people, as they are dependent on drugs and government hand outs. The world's most powerful military, the Five Eyes Alliance, is not there to keep the peace, but to allow the ruling dynasties to keep all the pieces.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: iamsheikhadil on October 17, 2020, 09:54:13 AM
I think it's a very bad idea to actually spend on military and police.

It's my view that as the time progresses, the world is going on a more globalism route. We are breaking old boundaries, and taking science as tool, we are making the world a much smaller place. Concepts of nation will cease to exist within a century or two, and humanity will be one.

This is because of the rising global population. We have to agree that sources in the world is limited and no matter how rich one is, with the rising population, demand for these sources will increase and as such, there might even be wars inside nations itself to acquire these. Hence, we would be looking at more options, like making moon a place for cultivation. Throwing away wastes into space to preserve more land for living. Even making colonies in space or mars. But surely it will be done because we need it.

Economy will change greatly, and we might have just one single currency and not so many!


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: BIT-BENDER on October 17, 2020, 10:18:45 AM
The power no longer lies with the people, as they are dependent on drugs and government hand outs. The world's most powerful military, the Five Eyes Alliance, is not there to keep the peace, but to allow the ruling dynasties to keep all the pieces.
In my country the power was never with the people, it has always been with the government, the people are either
+ sacred of the power in possession of the government
+ sold-out, neutral
But people are rising up -call it crises-causing or not- the people are awoken with all that is going on
#endpolicebrutality #reformthegovernment and many more it is a good dawn.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: hugeblack on October 17, 2020, 01:38:52 PM
Money is power, the economy is power, and weapons give them power. Therefore, many countries resort to either using brute force and spending on arms or soft power and spending on economic institutions to put pressure on states.
The global economy is expanding in a crazy way, so hyperinflation has become less severe and irritating, which appears in the long run, when crises become more difficult to solve.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: int03h on October 17, 2020, 01:43:21 PM

I don't accept it that Trump or whatever leader in the world and their elites has power to change the world. They can make policies but depends on the people to follow the policies. Power belongs to the people, therefore it is the people that have power to cause such global change. Most countries are now practicing democracy which is simply the government of the will of the people.

Power belongs to the people, check most revolution that caused change and removing of government are people oriented. From the recent succession in Africa to the times in the past in Asia, Europe etc.
Power belonging to the people exists only in the constitution. Right now the elite has a lot of money and they have bought most of the world. Look at the islands, the real estate, the companies ... they bought it all.
The elites have made the world what it is today.

The more money is printed but the people are still poor, they will be poorer because the money they make is taken away by the rich through consumption activities.
Past revolutions are no longer happening in the old way. The West is looking for ways to peacefully develop other nations, they seek to destroy the machinery of nations from within. Take a look at Ukraine, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Hong Kong these countries were affected by the west, protests and riots occurred. Power belongs to the people but clearly, it shouldn't be in a stupid way.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: goaldigger on October 17, 2020, 01:52:07 PM
Money is power, the economy is power, and weapons give them power. Therefore, many countries resort to either using brute force and spending on arms or soft power and spending on economic institutions to put pressure on states.
The global economy is expanding in a crazy way, so hyperinflation has become less severe and irritating, which appears in the long run, when crises become more difficult to solve.
There’s a money on every war, every country knows this one and this is why terrorist still exist. The government spend that much on their Military because they have to protect their country from the invader and of course, they don’t want to be controlled by anyone aside from those country that is controlled by another country since the.

We can’t just accept the old ways on a place where technology is growing, its just that people don’t want to adopt that technology or the government don’t want to educate their people on how they can control their money. Cryptocurrency is a big help, and we don’t need those Weapons only if all countries works together to help every people of this planet.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Lorence.xD on October 18, 2020, 09:58:58 AM
From what I can decipher from your cryptic nonsense is that anarchy is the solution. My deduction might be wrong but I will stand by it and try to prove that that solution is wrong. Without any form of government that will keep the populace in check, the chaos will be perpetual and no progress towards a prosperous society will be reached because most people during an anarchic era will return to a hunter gatherer instinct and survival of the fittest which means that the basic of needs are the most precious and anything more advance than that is a waste of time because facilities are destroyed. To be honest, capitalism at the very least watches out for their workers and I think it is the closest thing we can get to an ideal society.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: wack slacker on October 18, 2020, 03:57:54 PM
Recession cycles have been predicted and people are more aware of recessions than before. Every 10 years the world has a huge turnaround of wealth, money from pocket to pocket, so there will be a new generation of billionaires.
The world prints more money to serve people's spending, banks are willing to lend people at good interest rates and they can borrow when they have assets or youth. Many people have fallen into a trap and have to work lifelong to pay off their debts. The more people want to borrow, the more money will be printed out. That is how the modern world economy works. I find lending recently easier than before.
As for Bitcoin, I think it is a solution to stop inflation and lose the value of fiat currency. The more money the world prints, the more Bitcoin will continue to appreciate it.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Natsuu on October 18, 2020, 04:23:17 PM
Money is power, the economy is power, and weapons give them power. Therefore, many countries resort to either using brute force and spending on arms or soft power and spending on economic institutions to put pressure on states.
The global economy is expanding in a crazy way, so hyperinflation has become less severe and irritating, which appears in the long run, when crises become more difficult to solve.
There’s a money on every war, every country knows this one and this is why terrorist still exist. The government spend that much on their Military because they have to protect their country from the invader and of course, they don’t want to be controlled by anyone aside from those country that is controlled by another country since the.

We can’t just accept the old ways on a place where technology is growing, its just that people don’t want to adopt that technology or the government don’t want to educate their people on how they can control their money. Cryptocurrency is a big help, and we don’t need those Weapons only if all countries works together to help every people of this planet.

There are countries that don't have army, but even so they're rich rich like crazy. The deduction of having a military just for the only reason of protecting the citizen from other countries is nothing but a fantasy. The high government do invest a lot in military for many different reasons, but only half of that is to defend, the other half can be given to intimidate, incite power, scared the shit out of people, and many others. Yes, many countries are democratic, but have you heard about the happenings in Vietnam right now? The government is resorting to violence for anyone who goes against them, although they are democratic country.

Please don't leave inside a cave that you disregard other essential aspect of having power. Be insightful and always vigilant about the happening around us, cause military isn't just a simple weapon, they are the governments weapon controlled by the commander in chief, which is the current president.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: pixie85 on October 18, 2020, 05:31:24 PM
The power no longer lies with the people, as they are dependent on drugs and government hand outs. The world's most powerful military, the Five Eyes Alliance, is not there to keep the peace, but to allow the ruling dynasties to keep all the pieces.

Really? How many people are drug addicts? How many of these drug addicts care to vote for their leaders or do anything significant for the economy, invest, invent things and so on?

The world isn't such a dark place. If you focus only on the bad things and spend your whole life living in a poor neighbourhood it's easy to lose the connection with reality and think that all people are poor and on drugs.

Many people talk about crysis but it's just words. I don't see it happening yet. In fact all the people I know earn more today than they were earning 10 years ago and are able to afford better life.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: BIT-BENDER on October 18, 2020, 09:55:58 PM
Money is power, the economy is power, and weapons give them power. Therefore, many countries resort to either using brute force and spending on arms or soft power and spending on economic institutions to put pressure on states.
The global economy is expanding in a crazy way, so hyperinflation has become less severe and irritating, which appears in the long run, when crises become more difficult to solve.
A strong the nation is the most powerful, and by strong I mean to the nation's citizens take countries with good oil/petroleum resources this gives nation wealth and Can rise economy but some of this country are poor and the money are being looted. The strength of a country should reflect on many -if not all- it's citizens.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: ultrloa on October 18, 2020, 10:29:34 PM
The power no longer lies with the people, as they are dependent on drugs and government hand outs. The world's most powerful military, the Five Eyes Alliance, is not there to keep the peace, but to allow the ruling dynasties to keep all the pieces.
The world isn't such a dark place. If you focus only on the bad things and spend your whole life living in a poor neighbourhood it's easy to lose the connection with reality and think that all people are poor and on drugs.

Many people talk about crysis but it's just words. I don't see it happening yet. In fact all the people I know earn more today than they were earning 10 years ago and are able to afford better life.

Sometimes I always think about people who always says a negative statement which doesn't represent as the whole figures of situation maybe there are still people selling drugs but for what I see the world changes and those drug selling things has been minimize due to some policies impose for drug dealings.

But actually crisis really happen since many people lose their job and that really affect their financial capacity, also not all people have the same capabilities since not everyone knows the methods to earn money as we have different knowledge about the situation.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: maxreish on October 19, 2020, 04:57:33 AM
How can that of crisis be a solution?
I understand that the governments are trying all their best to recover the economic system after this pandemic hits us.

This new normal is going on smoothly. But i dont think printing of fiat money is beneficial, it was just limited. I dont know where you get all of your idea and predictions. But there must be other solutions to recessions.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: GeorgeJohn on October 19, 2020, 05:41:33 AM
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The power no longer lies with the people, as they are dependent on drugs and government hand outs. The world's most powerful military, the Five Eyes Alliance, is not there to keep the peace, but to allow the ruling dynasties to keep all the pieces.

Really? How many people are drug addicts? How many of these drug addicts care to vote for their leaders or do anything significant for the economy, invest, invent things and so on?

The world isn't such a dark place. If you focus only on the bad things and spend your whole life living in a poor neighbourhood it's easy to lose the connection with reality and think that all people are poor and on drugs.

Many people talk about crysis but it's just words. I don't see it happening yet. In fact all the people I know earn more today than they were earning 10 years ago and are able to afford better life.
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See, people who is making it today does not mean that them will make it till infinite, the only reason while you seen those once you known propagation or been successful til date is based their plans which them kept it in constant flows.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: fiulpro on October 19, 2020, 06:27:25 AM
Firstly am pretty sure that the crisis in the US itself won't define the crisis which is happening all around the world. In countries the situation is far more worse , US is kind of in a better off category one should understand that. The Hyperinflation would not affect the US itself more than it will affect the small countries which are holding huge stocks of the USD. Most developing countries don't even have enough coronavirus facilities to be testing each and very patient.
The things is : US have : Time , money , attention but they are not handling the situation well.
In lieu of the elections the people are too set on opening the public places and at the same time maybe distribute stimulus again , but unfortunately they are going towards the wrong direction. Plus I don't think there are so many drug addicts that we know of and actually people do have certain amount of power over the whole thing for sure.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Oasisman on October 19, 2020, 10:08:32 AM
World is investing more money in Military coz They know this Military is needed to making sure we Still have law and order.

Well, it isn't a bad thing If all nations were investing too much for the military power since they are the primary defense against other nations, but what happened today's pandemic is an example of a biological weapon that cannot be stopped by military force.
I guess now is the time to invest more in the field of health care and pandemic response funds. Most of the countries has been overwhelmed by the spread of the virus because there was no enough funds to cover the general expense to combat the pandemic.
Once the country's economic state is collapsing, everything else will always follow suit. 


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Cnut237 on October 19, 2020, 10:29:45 AM
So I think the debt and this money printing is beneficial.

In theory it's good for bitcoin as government responses to the pandemic just highlight the deficiencies of fiat.

In practice however bitcoin is still viewed in large part as a highly speculative asset rather than a safe-haven. We may see bitcoin price appreciation in the short-term, or we may see price drops as the economic turmoil starts to hit people in the pocket and they cash in on their more speculative holdings. Long-term, yes, the case for bitcoin grows stronger... it's just that (as we all know by now) the upwards path may have a few sizeable bumps.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: ReiMomo on October 19, 2020, 05:37:07 PM
In theory it's good for bitcoin as government responses to the pandemic just highlight the deficiencies of fiat.

In practice however bitcoin is still viewed in large part as a highly speculative asset rather than a safe-haven. We may see bitcoin price appreciation in the short-term, or we may see price drops as the economic turmoil starts to hit people in the pocket and they cash in on their more speculative holdings. Long-term, yes, the case for bitcoin grows stronger... it's just that (as we all know by now) the upwards path may have a few sizeable bumps.
Exactly.
Even when people say the power is with them, it is still not.

Elite did not become elite for no reason. They have set of skills that made them Elites in the first place. Being passed from generation to generation. Going back, it will only be the people who will be suffering this inflation. They have their own games way up there. And we are the pawns.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: poshat on October 19, 2020, 06:04:29 PM
The main mistake in the perception of reality is that the elite are Martians. These are the same people as we are, so nothing prevents them and us from changing, if we find points of contact and mutual interests.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Yatsan on October 19, 2020, 09:37:56 PM
World is investing more money in Military coz They know this Military is needed to making sure we Still have law and order.


It is more likely that obvious that different countries around the world seems to focus more on strengthening their military forces that can all go out of war if it is badly needed most specially along with different crisis that affects the world wherein different leaders from many countries are putting into blame on who's fault it is now and what they will supposedly do regarding the matter. Instead of resolving the problem from the root cause, it seems like a strong force of law and military is being taken as a solution to shut the mouth of the people and let the government do the talking about the issues or crisis being experienced.


Its just After 10 years crisis get use to it then Everything will start Again...


We are still cannot be so sure that same thing that a massive crisis will soon to arise right after 10 years. If that so will happen, then it is already a planned one and not a coincidence nor accidental crisis that makes the world suffer from it.


Even when people say the power is with them, it is still not.

Elite did not become elite for no reason. They have set of skills that made them Elites in the first place. Being passed from generation to generation. Going back, it will only be the people who will be suffering this inflation. They have their own games way up there. And we are the pawns.

I agree. Even with a democratic country where the power lies on people that is supposedly to happen, elite people are making use of them being wise and their power to evenly control everything and make it favorable to them making people just to obey or follow what they say.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: wozzek23 on October 20, 2020, 05:27:10 AM
For how long are we going to continue being in crisis?. It’s totally wrong, but as you said 'there are elites who are benefiting from the crisis, in one way or the other, and the elites most of them are our politicians. Most of these crisis are benefiting some of our leaders the corrupt ones, and they are mainly the ones sponsoring some of the crimes you see that takes place, it’s a means for them to embezzle money :-[ :(.

That's why they have strong Military power!!
They know that people might not like them but Military will keep the law and order anyways.
The military is the power of the government and they can use it to oppress the people. One of their tactics is putting fear in the people and making them doubt themselves and what they can do. It’s just like what’s happening in Nigeria now, it has been trending on Twitter, but imagine that the people gets angry and decides to react, it’s going to be really bloody for the government.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: el kaka22 on October 20, 2020, 06:02:07 AM
Problem with this situation is the fact that when there is something horrible going on, politicians try to make it look like they are doing alright, like for example 200k+ people is dead, any decent human would go up and at least say that he is very sorry for what has happened and he is trying his best to make sure no more of this would happen, but what does Trump do?

He goes out and says he is doing a great job and the number would have been a lot higher if it wasn't for him. That is the type of problem we are facing today in every situation, you say a problem to the politician, and they tell you it is not true and everything is sunshines and rainbows, why? Because if they accept things are not decent they would lose votes. That is why I believe in every nation we can't get better unless politicians realize they have to do something to fix what is bad.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Sithara007 on October 20, 2020, 06:54:43 AM
If you check the stats, then it can be seen that there have been a lot of improvement in the situation. Back in August/September, there were on average between 6,000 and 7,000 deaths per day. This has declined to 4000-5000 now. And this has happened despite the steady increase in new cases. So we have evidence to say that the mortality rate from COVID 19 is going down.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Mauser on October 20, 2020, 07:30:47 AM
If you check the stats, then it can be seen that there have been a lot of improvement in the situation. Back in August/September, there were on average between 6,000 and 7,000 deaths per day. This has declined to 4000-5000 now. And this has happened despite the steady increase in new cases. So we have evidence to say that the mortality rate from COVID 19 is going down.

I agree, the corona virus was very new during the first wave for every country. People didn't know what to expect and the countries where not prepared. Now with the second wave we see that hospitals and medical staff are much more prepared, that is why the death numbers are much lower. I hope in the long run we see the death rate of corona to be closer to the flu once we have vaccines and better medication available.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Haunebu on October 20, 2020, 08:17:55 AM
Observed that you like boasting about your viewpoints on different political matters through different threads in this forum. I tend to disagree with most of your views since they are baseless and pure assumptions without any sort of hard evidence backing them up op.

Coming to this particular topic, crisis has always been a normal that people have been dealing with for ages(Natural Calamities, Terrorist attacks etc).

Human beings have always overcome these obstacles no matter what though we are responsible for most of these problems.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: shield132 on October 20, 2020, 09:39:57 AM
The problem in this world is that we are afraid of wars and put more money into development and research in this aspect. A lot of resources is wasted on military services. What if we had no war? There wouldn't be any need of military and it would save tons of money that could be invested in education and development of people. But, at the same time even if it sounds paradoxical, the war still plays one of the major roles in our development. War is the time when the development of different things is skyrocketed. For example, during world wars, there were created synthetic testosterone and other anabolic compounds, there were created stimulants which play a huge role right now because of their effect on cognitive abilities and attention (on the long term they burn neurons and are bad). You can't see a campus without it...


The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies.

Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is.


I don't accept it that Trump or whatever leader in the world and their elites has power to change the world. They can make policies but depends on the people to follow the policies. Power belongs to the people, therefore it is the people that have power to cause such global change. Most countries are now practicing democracy which is simply the government of the will of the people.

Power belongs to the people, check most revolution that caused change and removing of government are people oriented. From the recent succession in Africa to the times in the past in Asia, Europe etc.
In reality, power really belongs to people but the problem is that people don't know / are unable to use this power. The reason is the lack of education and how governments try to zombify people. Democracy is a right to make the wrong choice by the way. And about revolution, people aren't those who cause changes, these are the certain people who really change the world, not people.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on October 20, 2020, 10:32:40 AM
I agree, the corona virus was very new during the first wave for every country. People didn't know what to expect and the countries where not prepared. Now with the second wave we see that hospitals and medical staff are much more prepared, that is why the death numbers are much lower. I hope in the long run we see the death rate of corona to be closer to the flu once we have vaccines and better medication available.

Agreed. Even in my country during the initial phases the doctors and other health workers didn't had access to protective equipment such as PPE kits. Now the situation has changed. Also equipment such as Oxygen cylinders and ventilators have become more readily available in the hospitals. Perhaps as a result of this the fatality rate has gone down in most of the countries.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Istiaque on October 20, 2020, 10:37:23 AM
Although the developed countries of the world have overcome the crisis and returned to normalcy many countries still do not have any pests and treatment facilities to cure the poor corona virus. We need a two- or three-year ‘economic recovery’ plan which requires the formulation of a national budget for the next fiscal year. Such as taking measures to launch planned economic activities higher allocations for health agriculture and social security sectors, proper implementation of incentive packages and taking and implementing effective reforms in certain specific areas including banking and tax sector.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Alert31 on October 20, 2020, 12:09:27 PM

Coming to this particular topic, crisis has always been a normal that people have been dealing with for ages(Natural Calamities, Terrorist attacks etc).

Human beings have always overcome these obstacles no matter what though we are responsible for most of these problems.

I agree with you. Crisis is not a new normal because it is already normal for us as a human being but every crisis has an end and solution because people will always find  ways to overcome it. Like what happened this year, covid 19 pandemic killed a huge number of people around the world but now it slowly decreasing and many people are now working hard to go back to their normal life.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: jademaxsuy on October 20, 2020, 12:24:46 PM
Crisis had never done good from the word itself which CRISIS. If you knew its meaning then good and if not then try to google it yourself.

The pandemic had cost so much to us from our everyday life living to support our needs which is likely difficult especially to us the low income earners. If you have seen the less fortunate people like homeless it would be nice of you to think how much they are feeling right from the start before the covid and up to now which covid19 viruses added the difficulty striving towards survival.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: ultrloa on October 20, 2020, 12:44:13 PM

Coming to this particular topic, crisis has always been a normal that people have been dealing with for ages(Natural Calamities, Terrorist attacks etc).

Human beings have always overcome these obstacles no matter what though we are responsible for most of these problems.

I agree with you. Crisis is not a new normal because it is already normal for us as a human being but every crisis has an end and solution because people will always find  ways to overcome it. Like what happened this year, covid 19 pandemic killed a huge number of people around the world but now it slowly decreasing and many people are now working hard to go back to their normal life.

Disagree since it's not normal for a progressive countries and most provably will not occur when the economic state of the country is on good shape, so since there's a pandemic everything is at risk and down due to the unfortunate situation but once this will be end up and the right cure will be found we will experience the revival and a progressive economical state of major countries.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Stavri on October 20, 2020, 06:39:58 PM

Also I Don't complain either the money printing makes cryptocurrency going up too.
So I think the debt and this money printing is beneficial.


i dont agree. i dont think economical crisis and inflation has positive effect in crypto market anymore. crypto market follows also global stock market, move paralel to gold etc.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: bitgolden on October 20, 2020, 06:50:50 PM
The problem in this world is that we are afraid of wars and put more money into development and research in this aspect. A lot of resources is wasted on military services. What if we had no war? There wouldn't be any need of military and it would save tons of money that could be invested in education and development of people. But, at the same time even if it sounds paradoxical, the war still plays one of the major roles in our development. War is the time when the development of different things is skyrocketed. For example, during world wars, there were created synthetic testosterone and other anabolic compounds, there were created stimulants which play a huge role right now because of their effect on cognitive abilities and attention (on the long term they burn neurons and are bad). You can't see a campus without it...
Wars are not really needed, it is a political thing and not an ideological thing anymore. What the cause of many wars is the fact that politicians wants votes and that's it, they are the ones who have the button in their hands to start a war or not, and if they want to start a war they would do that only because they think they will earn more votes than they lose. Do you really think that there is ANY politicians anywhere in the world that would start a war if they knew that it would lose them the seat they are in? Obviously not, they will definitely make sure that they start a war that will earn them more power.

So, we need to make sure that the public who votes do not vote for people who start wars, and when they don't that means military will not be needed and won't be spending this much money neither.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: hahay on October 20, 2020, 07:38:27 PM
The crisis will certainly have an impact on economic difficulties and I think the crisis will still be bad, how can a crisis-hit world still look fine. If that is the case then there is no need for this economic recovery, and is simply investing in the military sector enough to make the people economically good? It seems very unlikely. There is nothing that causes the crisis to make the country develop because there is a need for balance, it should not be focused on one side of the development, because that will only create imbalance in the country itself.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: ololajulo on October 20, 2020, 07:54:56 PM

The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies.

Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is.


I don't accept it that Trump or whatever leader in the world and their elites has power to change the world. They can make policies but depends on the people to follow the policies. Power belongs to the people, therefore it is the people that have power to cause such global change. Most countries are now practicing democracy which is simply the government of the will of the people.

Power belongs to the people, check most revolution that caused change and removing of government are people oriented. From the recent succession in Africa to the times in the past in Asia, Europe etc.
Democracy can be deceiving and I dont think it has been successful anywhere in the world if the system of government does not a way to check the leaders. I so much like the parliamentary system of Government practiced in the United Kingdom, where there is no sovereign power by the leaders. Some cases of shared leadership with president and prime minister without leader sole power. The excesses of Trump government with use of social media and relationship with his subordinate can be too mush


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: carter34 on October 20, 2020, 10:00:13 PM

There is nothing that causes the crisis to make the country develop because there is a need for balance, it should not be focused on one side of the development, because that will only create imbalance in the country itself.

Development needs to be balanced for general growth of the whole country. And this is about equity for all the people across all region of the country. Imbalance is a source of agitation and instability that will definitely disrupte gains made.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: DrG on October 21, 2020, 03:02:00 AM
The panic words like "crisis" are used way too often by people. For example, the Cape Town water crisis was a moderate crisis. The Ethiopian and Bangladesh famines were true crisis.

Not being able to buy a new 40" OLED for Christmas because the US government is not giving a new round of stimulus is not a crisis.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 21, 2020, 03:23:13 AM

The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies.

Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is.


I don't accept it that Trump or whatever leader in the world and their elites has power to change the world. They can make policies but depends on the people to follow the policies. Power belongs to the people, therefore it is the people that have power to cause such global change. Most countries are now practicing democracy which is simply the government of the will of the people.
There is no one who can change the world because each countries has their own policies and dreams in their specific government and Trump has no right to change others,and besides why not change His own country first because their economy is really that bad now compared to what is US 20 years in past.
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Power belongs to the people, check most revolution that caused change and removing of government are people oriented. From the recent succession in Africa to the times in the past in Asia, Europe etc.
We have already experienced that,the People Power that turns into Bloodless revolution and bring the former president down without any casualties .


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Salauddin1994 on October 21, 2020, 03:51:11 AM
It will take a long time for the crisis to return to normal the crisis has made the lives of ordinary people including the country's economy much worse lockdown is an effective way to slow down the spread of the virus but the problem is that if the lockdown situation continues for a long time it could have huge negative effects on employment the economy mental health and social order especially where the social safety net is limited. So while the rich have the power to overcome the economic crisis caused by the lockdown how far can the low and middle-income states survive in a reality that puts people in more trouble.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on October 21, 2020, 06:39:06 AM
It will take a long time for the crisis to return to normal the crisis has made the lives of ordinary people including the country's economy much worse lockdown is an effective way to slow down the spread of the virus but the problem is that if the lockdown situation continues for a long time it could have huge negative effects on employment the economy mental health and social order especially where the social safety net is limited. So while the rich have the power to overcome the economic crisis caused by the lockdown how far can the low and middle-income states survive in a reality that puts people in more trouble.

Many countries have already lifted the community quarantine lockdown, and they started to open their economy back, so everyone could go back to their jobs and revive their economy. As long as we follow the safety protocols during the pandemic, such as wearing a facemask, face shields, and social distancing when going outside, we can prevent spreading the virus in our country and we can slowly go back to normal again.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: coinfinger on October 21, 2020, 09:18:56 AM
But does it make any sense investing more money in military and other things like that? Don’t you think that by doing that they are encouraging the crisis to keep moving?

I know that our government and those elites are interested in crisis that benefits them in one way or the other, since they are all evil. How about they start investing those money in places where it matters, like creating job opportunities enough so that people will have jobs to be able to afford for their feeding, and also help the poor people in the community? How about them trying to make peace and maintain it, instead of fighting wars all the time? Crisis will only lead us to destruction and nothing more.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Kasabus on October 21, 2020, 11:59:04 PM
But does it make any sense investing more money in military and other things like that? Don’t you think that by doing that they are encouraging the crisis to keep moving?

I know that our government and those elites are interested in crisis that benefits them in one way or the other, since they are all evil. How about they start investing those money in places where it matters, like creating job opportunities enough so that people will have jobs to be able to afford for their feeding, and also help the poor people in the community? How about them trying to make peace and maintain it, instead of fighting wars all the time? Crisis will only lead us to destruction and nothing more.
Different crisis will be properly managed if the leaders of the country won't apply strong force like wars because it will definitely affect humans particularly those innocent ones. Yes destruction will be expected to happen in such country that will allow wars to happen using the military and police force just to combat the ongoing crisis.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Reid on October 22, 2020, 08:50:28 AM
Not being able to buy a new 40" OLED for Christmas because the US government is not giving a new round of stimulus is not a crisis.
LOL.  ;D

I know that our government and those elites are interested in crisis that benefits them in one way or the other, since they are all evil. How about they start investing those money in places where it matters, like creating job opportunities enough so that people will have jobs to be able to afford for their feeding, and also help the poor people in the community? How about them trying to make peace and maintain it, instead of fighting wars all the time? Crisis will only lead us to destruction and nothing more.
They do give jobs since they are also consumers afterward.
It will just circulate until we end up being hit in the head and look for another job or just make our own business.
The thing is, they love that kind of circulation. That way, they will stay on the top or as we call them, "elites".
While they provide jobs to keep us under them.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: AniviaBtc on October 22, 2020, 01:30:13 PM

The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies.

Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is.


I don't accept it that Trump or whatever leader in the world and their elites has power to change the world. They can make policies but depends on the people to follow the policies. Power belongs to the people, therefore it is the people that have power to cause such global change. Most countries are now practicing democracy which is simply the government of the will of the people.

Power belongs to the people, check most revolution that caused change and removing of government are people oriented. From the recent succession in Africa to the times in the past in Asia, Europe etc.

Trump focuses on himself only, he don't care about the majority that are seeking help amidst this pandemic.

I don't think that the new normal will help most of the people in their needs to sustain their lives. The power that the Trump have is used in a wrong way, we all know that he is racist and he us only focused about his own advocacy, which is pro-white people. US should have the proper democracy that they deserve so that Trump can really make America great again in the eyes of his people.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Chrystora123 on October 22, 2020, 03:31:49 PM
World is investing more money in Military coz They know this Military is needed to making sure we Still have law and order.
countries that invest too heavily in the military are countries that aim to control not provide peace..

The power no longer lies with the people, as they are dependent on drugs and government hand outs. The world's most powerful military, the Five Eyes Alliance, is not there to keep the peace, but to allow the ruling dynasties to keep all the pieces.
the power of the people is just the sweet words of the democratic system, in real life (democracies) never listen to the voice of the people, all decisions are only based on the interests of those in power..

But people are rising up -call it crises-causing or not- the people are awoken with all that is going on
#endpolicebrutality #reformthegovernment and many more it is a good dawn.
the police will not be able to end their atrocities. Seeing from the history of the police for the first time being formed that to "monitor black slaves in the US", until now they are a security tool of the government..


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Darkelf11 on October 22, 2020, 04:46:09 PM
We can't just continuously printing more money because too much of it can make our money worthless. The higher the supply of money rather than the demand may cause an inflation and if this occurs the many people will be affected of it. Another thing is, yes we still need order and peace that's why government increases the salary of our military and hire many of them as possible. This new normal is really weird and we are not used to it. Health sector is the one who is greatly affected and our country is already in debt. If the actions of the government and its people will not improve then crisis as a new normal is a bad thing for us.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: justdimin on October 23, 2020, 08:20:51 AM
It will take a long time for the crisis to return to normal the crisis has made the lives of ordinary people including the country's economy much worse lockdown is an effective way to slow down the spread of the virus but the problem is that if the lockdown situation continues for a long time it could have huge negative effects on employment the economy mental health and social order especially where the social safety net is limited. So while the rich have the power to overcome the economic crisis caused by the lockdown how far can the low and middle-income states survive in a reality that puts people in more trouble.
The normal is sometimes so confusing because we think it is normal to burn fuel with the speed we are burning now but it is nor normal and we will see a crisis for fuel in future and similarly for water and everything. There are times when people say we have crisis of water today but the truth is we are just learning to live with the future normal.

I believe the new normal is actually good because it gives us a mirror image of what would happen in the future if we live with the current normal and wasting money was a normal for us and now that we face some tough times we call it a crisis. This is just called as poor planning and no future savings. The more we spend now the lesser we have in future be it water, fossil fuels, resources and even money and if you call it crisis now then future is bleak.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Nhebu on October 23, 2020, 08:54:09 AM
It will take a long time for the crisis to return to normal the crisis has made the lives of ordinary people including the country's economy much worse lockdown is an effective way to slow down the spread of the virus but the problem is that if the lockdown situation continues for a long time it could have huge negative effects on employment the economy mental health and social order especially where the social safety net is limited. So while the rich have the power to overcome the economic crisis caused by the lockdown how far can the low and middle-income states survive in a reality that puts people in more trouble.

If lockdown in different part of the world will continues, only rich people can overcome the crisis. In my country, there is still a lockdown but not strictly as what before. We can go outside with facemask, we can ride to public transportation and go to the mall (except for the kids). Yet, it is not strict but we felt that old normal is far than what is currently happening right now. If we want to survive, we should ourselves in finding a job even there is a pandemic or else we will gonna die because of famine. I hope this crisis will ends at the end of the year together with the hates and dramas of the world.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: dothebeats on October 23, 2020, 09:54:03 AM
countries that invest too heavily in the military are countries that aim to control not provide peace..

It only takes one superpower and a lot of weak ones to ignite yet another cruel chapter in the history of mankind. If not for the continuous upgrades of the military on different countries, there will be more bullies around than there are peace in this world. While it is true that most of their aim is to control, having a lot of enemies aiming for the same goal makes you want to think a million times before doing something rash, and the end result is peace. Tension in dualities, yes, but it has worked thus far after the Cold War.

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We may not be resuming our previous activities sooner, but it obviously helped change some things, most especially our views about epidemics and how important science is on this charted yet still murky waters of viruses and how they can change the world in an instant. It's not a good thing that a huge event like this has to happen first before we realize it since many people died, but it's not, overall, a bad thing.

The economy on the other hand is on a tricky spot. Stimulus funds won't last forever, and at some point, jobs need to resume in order for people to earn some money for their family. It wouldn't be possible for the government to accommodate to all of its citizens needs, so it's kinda hard to jumpstart an economy with those trillions of dollars only for the momentum to get lost almost immediately once the funds dry up.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Natsuu on October 23, 2020, 10:10:12 AM
We can't just continuously printing more money because too much of it can make our money worthless. The higher the supply of money rather than the demand may cause an inflation and if this occurs the many people will be affected of it. Another thing is, yes we still need order and peace that's why government increases the salary of our military and hire many of them as possible. This new normal is really weird and we are not used to it. Health sector is the one who is greatly affected and our country is already in debt. If the actions of the government and its people will not improve then crisis as a new normal is a bad thing for us.

An increase in the funds of the military doesn't mean order and peace. If you think about it, this can cause further destruction to what the citizens envision. Yes, the military can be equal to strength but the one in control of this power has greater strength. It is all about the one who manages this all throughout that depends on his intention for either to provide peace or war. This was proven in Thailand for what we see for these past few months. Their government has been abusing the power of the military to suppress democracy within the country, silencing people who voice out their cry about the misdeeds of their own government. This malpractice must be stopped at all cost, and this can only be attained if the people in the higher seats listen and do not abuse the power given to them.

Crisis as a new normal on the other hand is not a pretty good idea to think about. We can't just normalize a crisis just because it is what we experience for a period of time. We must change this way of thinking and try to get back the TRUE normal that we have before this pandemic.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: matchi2011 on October 23, 2020, 10:18:06 AM
It will take a long time for the crisis to return to normal the crisis has made the lives of ordinary people including the country's economy much worse lockdown is an effective way to slow down the spread of the virus but the problem is that if the lockdown situation continues for a long time it could have huge negative effects on employment the economy mental health and social order especially where the social safety net is limited. So while the rich have the power to overcome the economic crisis caused by the lockdown how far can the low and middle-income states survive in a reality that puts people in more trouble.

If lockdown in different part of the world will continues, only rich people can overcome the crisis. In my country, there is still a lockdown but not strictly as what before. We can go outside with facemask, we can ride to public transportation and go to the mall (except for the kids). Yet, it is not strict but we felt that old normal is far than what is currently happening right now. If we want to survive, we should ourselves in finding a job even there is a pandemic or else we will gonna die because of famine. I hope this crisis will ends at the end of the year together with the hates and dramas of the world.

Adjustments has been done from different countries, leaders see the needs of reopening the business allowing people to go out with implemented preventive equipment in order to go out and find the new normal ways of living.

It's us the people who needed to workout and find ways to continue life, there are many open opportunities after this pandemic and with your desire to survive you'll do anything find one that's fits you and continue living even from this new normal situation.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: JuSayCo on October 24, 2020, 06:48:53 AM
We are absolutely living now in a new normal way. Though some countries economy are slowly opening this time, we  still need to take extra precautions in so many ways because the virus is still here around us. I think I got your point that amidst of this crisis, all our bills and debts forgiven by the Governments and the concerned parties. Well, the way I understand it here in my country, debts and bills are still continuously  running each month, though they implemented a law that will prolong the payment period to give time for people to find a job and other earning points and restore the financial losses that we had now. It doesn't mean that bills and other debts will be forgiven and gone, its still here. And printing more money/fiat currencies and crisis within a crisis is not the best solution. We need to stand up, go out, face the virus and find some job to earn and pay our bills. We need to embrace the new normal kind of living.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Dragonfund on October 24, 2020, 11:36:08 AM
The economy of most countries has changed due to some factors that were beyond human control, crisis is never an option.
Earlier this year, the US and Iran mini war drive increase in weapons, gold and stocks in general but what happen when coronavirus escalated? The whole world was in chaos, fear and uncertainty of after the lock down. Human being can make treat but the mind is programmed with fear that's why no one want crisis.

Recall the day Donald Trump tested positive to coronavirus, the whole market was down because of fear, uncertainty and disinformation. I can speak confidently that Africa coronavirus cases has reduced and things are coming back to normal.
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Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Xinarae* on October 24, 2020, 01:59:22 PM
It is clear that shutting down economic activities cannot be a long-term solution for low-income countries. So many countries have now relaxed the lockdown but the decision is extremely risky, if the lockdown is lifted in countries without a clear plan to get out of the crisis, the epidemic could take shape. The economy has made this decision to improve but it is possible to overcome the effects of the crisis if the social is maintained fast. This is why everyone is instructed to walk after the mask with social distance.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Blackrain13 on October 24, 2020, 02:18:05 PM
Financial and economic crisis are crisis caused by covid 19 pandemic and it's not easy to recover from this crisis. It could be a new normal but it is still a problem. Maybe for rich people this is not really a problem but those people in a lower class will surely affected to much of this crisis.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: michellee on October 24, 2020, 04:38:23 PM
Financial and economic crisis are crisis caused by covid 19 pandemic and it's not easy to recover from this crisis. It could be a new normal but it is still a problem. Maybe for rich people this is not really a problem but those people in a lower class will surely affected to much of this crisis.
The crisis will end soon, and we will have new hope to live. The situations will be different from before because we already had the experience this few months ago. The rich people can get affected because their source of income can make the biggest profit for them. But I am sure that all people will survive in this pandemic because they will find a new way to recover.

Maybe that will look hard for all people, but they need to do in the current situation. And if they still want to lives, they should have something to earn money.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: coolcoinz on October 24, 2020, 06:37:10 PM
They are doing it themselves (the governments) and blaming it all on the "pandemic". It's their own stupidity that is causing this. I'm currently observing the morons running like headless chickens, not knowing what to do. In Spring they shut down schools because there were like 100 cases a day. Now they had 500 cases a day and they did not do it. Then they thought why don't we close all cinemas, gyms, stadiums, because people might be getting sick there, but let's keep schools and churches open. When the number of cases was growing they closed schools and restaurants but again left churches open and it's the old people who go there, get sick and die. Not people who eat meals at restaurants because you can't eat the virus and get sick but you can get it when someone sneezes in your face in a crowded church. As long as we allow morons to tell us what to do, the situation will keep getting worse for the economy.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: metenjean on October 25, 2020, 04:40:55 AM
They are doing it themselves (the governments) and blaming it all on the "pandemic". It's their own stupidity that is causing this. I'm currently observing the morons running like headless chickens, not knowing what to do. In Spring they shut down schools because there were like 100 cases a day. Now they had 500 cases a day and they did not do it. Then they thought why don't we close all cinemas, gyms, stadiums, because people might be getting sick there, but let's keep schools and churches open. When the number of cases was growing they closed schools and restaurants but again left churches open and it's the old people who go there, get sick and die. Not people who eat meals at restaurants because you can't eat the virus and get sick but you can get it when someone sneezes in your face in a crowded church. As long as we allow morons to tell us what to do, the situation will keep getting worse for the economy.
The government have not way how to stop pandemic crisis and looking new strategy to make many people not afraid with pandemic and take way with new normal system, but the situation keep the same where many people not free to do something and travelling any where. Just one way how to stop covid 19 with vaccine and give healthy for many people from covid 19. I look outside many people take usually their activity and never afraid how covid 19 victim every added,


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: RealMalatesta on October 25, 2020, 09:13:10 PM
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That is so true and actually I can relate some part of that with our government as well. Actually the government of various countries found a good reason to hide their flaws in the name of corona virus. There were a lot of holes in the economic structure but those are now covered with the fake stories of corona virus and pandemic fears.

The government handled pandemic terribly in some countries by locking down schools, colleges, shops and almost all the market prematurely and when the bigger wave arrived they fall flat as they already did enough damage to the economy by shutting down the markets.

I believe the right way was to implement restrictions but not lockdowns because imposing lockdowns meant that people suffered and locking down people into their houses is not a solution but a way to delay the inevitable.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: justdimin on October 26, 2020, 07:21:18 AM
The government have not way how to stop pandemic crisis and looking new strategy to make many people not afraid with pandemic and take way with new normal system, but the situation keep the same where many people not free to do something and travelling any where.
We are harsh at the governing bodies at times because honestly speaking they also had no clue how the pandemic is going to spread and how long it would prevail because it was something absolutely new and devastating so yes there might be some bad decisions from governing bodies but blaming them for the situation is a little harsh.

Just one way how to stop covid 19 with vaccine and give healthy for many people from covid 19. I look outside many people take usually their activity and never afraid how covid 19 victim every added
People don't realize how serious it is and the only way to prevent is precautions and it is funny how we blame the government for the bad steps during the pandemic but we cannot even control ourselves because if only people had more awareness and taken the virus seriously since the start, we might not be in as dreadful situation as we are now.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Spaffin on October 26, 2020, 09:36:09 AM

Just one way how to stop covid 19 with vaccine and give healthy for many people from covid 19. I look outside many people take usually their activity and never afraid how covid 19 victim every added
People don't realize how serious it is and the only way to prevent is precautions and it is funny how we blame the government for the bad steps during the pandemic but we cannot even control ourselves because if only people had more awareness and taken the virus seriously since the start, we might not be in as dreadful situation as we are now.
I completely agree with you that in most cases people themselves are to blame for what is happening, because they constantly ignore the warnings of the government and the ministry of health, exposing others to great danger. And only the government made a small relaxation of quarantine in order to make it possible to work and take care of themselves and loved ones, many took this as the end of all diseases and that there was no danger.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: michellee on October 26, 2020, 03:15:54 PM
I completely agree with you that in most cases people themselves are to blame for what is happening, because they constantly ignore the warnings of the government and the ministry of health, exposing others to great danger. And only the government made a small relaxation of quarantine in order to make it possible to work and take care of themselves and loved ones, many took this as the end of all diseases and that there was no danger.
If people can listen to the government and always follow the health protocols, we will have a chance to reduce our country's new case. It is not easy to telling all people in the public area because they will defend their opinion that they are fine without wearing a mask or following the protocols. It needs an open mind from the people to know that the virus is really dangerous to them.

I really hope that we can pass these situations, and we will survive to get out of these hard moments. I am sure that the vaccine will be available in many countries sooner or later to help cure people's infection.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: proTECH77 on October 26, 2020, 05:04:09 PM
Even though the federal government print more money without investing on economy of the country they will still remain in hardship. Any government that is not taking their economy serious, always experience brake down of economy.
China experience some many things in economy challenge many years ago but right now they are close to the among the country with the best economy in the world. Covid-19 generated from China which many people loss their lives with the corona virus that started from the beginning of this year. Many economy was collapsed by the virus which China has found solution the to virus that is now allow them to carry out their activities as normal
 


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: ghost424 on October 26, 2020, 05:29:30 PM
World is investing more money in Military coz They know this Military is needed to making sure we Still have law and order.

As They will not quut the debt system as its so good and profitable the World governments either can increase the spending on police and Military.
We the people just need to get use to with crisis
As whole world economy is turned into gigant casino but... Hey They can print more money
And by speculating on the markets many people can be Rich

I think the hyperinflation not a problem.
The solution is crisis.
I guess every year or so plus government can do debt forgiveness and complete restart.
Universal income also

Its just After 10 years crisis get use to it then Everything will start Again...
The Fiat currencies are so great that Elite Don't have really Plan to kill Fiat currencies.

Im sure the Trump and Elite like the World how it is.
Also I Don't complain either the money printing makes cryptocurrency going up too.
So I think the debt and this money printing is beneficial.

And I think the Old way let it be... After 10years just little crisis then it will start like new game.
They have now strong aml kyc Rules all over the World so They can track the money and too much money can be eliminated and inflation rate will be normal Again.

Off Course people complain but this sysyem keeping capitalism going on and people with skills will just serve people who Got capital.

And bitcoin will be just instutionlized.
If you know the game you can be good Player in this Economic game..

Governments investing on Military is somewhat a bad idea since most countries discovered on what they should be focused on are Intelligence funds that will improve their Health and Academic systems. The pandemic really killed most countries that thrive on Capitalism and its not their fault since that is where they can get their profit to a better economy. Governments should start preparing for unknown incoming crisis that might come.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: disconnectme on October 26, 2020, 06:38:37 PM
I have read some where people not talk of great reset and this seems like those that believe in the Jubilee conspiracy theory are goig to be right, I have watch videos on Youtube highlighting how these Jubilee thing is coming, and I thing Year 2020 is going to bring it to pass, these is no way the world can survive these high level of Debt, Debt is increasing but low productivity because people prefer to invest in Stock market for quick gains than invest into a real business.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: beerlover on October 26, 2020, 08:17:38 PM
There are literally hundreds of thousands of people dead, literally over a million people died from covid so far, and yet when you look outside people are still going about their day like nothing is happening. That scares me a lot, I have begged and pleaded with everyone I know to stay at home and I said I really want to stay at home as well but the world wasn't ready for people to stay at home for one year, which is why we are out again and that is why I find it horrible to begin with.

In the end mother nature told us that we should be staying at home so that mother nature could recover a bit and get better, we hurt the earth too much and it needed us to stop for a while, we said okay for few months which made it better but we came back even fiercer than old and now earth is killing us to save itself, we are the virus on this planet.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: petyang12 on October 27, 2020, 02:13:56 PM
Even if there is a budget for the military some people will still do illegal things. Military can't stop those people even if there are laws for it. The only one who will follow those rules are only good people.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Sapphire915 on October 29, 2020, 07:14:32 AM
Its the sad truth. We don't really know when will be this crisis end. However, its not really good if we still face another crisis amidst of this terrible one. The  Government and the military are all in this together as well as the medical health workers to fight this battle of the unknown. That is why, the Government should really put a huge budget for this sector in order to implement disciplinary actions and any help that they could do now. Several hard-headed people are against with the strict guidelines, that is why this crisis seems to be unending...I just hope it wont last that long, like 10 years as you have said, before we can all recover as well as our economy and the whole wide world. 


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Mauser on October 29, 2020, 08:27:25 AM
I have read some where people not talk of great reset and this seems like those that believe in the Jubilee conspiracy theory are goig to be right, I have watch videos on Youtube highlighting how these Jubilee thing is coming, and I thing Year 2020 is going to bring it to pass, these is no way the world can survive these high level of Debt, Debt is increasing but low productivity because people prefer to invest in Stock market for quick gains than invest into a real business.


I hope the high debt levels will just normalise in the years to come. It seems we are very close to a vaccine at the moment. If such a vaccine can be mass produced at the beginning of 2021 we could see a return to the old normal next year. Once the corona virus is contained I am pretty sure we will see very high growth in the near future.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Raflesia on October 29, 2020, 08:56:00 AM
There are literally hundreds of thousands of people dead, literally over a million people died from covid so far, and yet when you look outside people are still going about their day like nothing is happening. That scares me a lot, I have begged and pleaded with everyone I know to stay at home and I said I really want to stay at home as well but the world wasn't ready for people to stay at home for one year, which is why we are out again and that is why I find it horrible to begin with.
We can't stop them from going anywhere because it is not our authority but still we have to follow the established protocol and their awareness is most important if people are stubborn still doing this without thinking to others that the virus spreads so fast then it what I am concerned about because it is intolerance towards our fellow human beings like us.

Sometimes we also get annoyed with people who keep going out of the house for the holidays because their awareness is not so strong about what we are dealing with each other.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: Shasha80 on October 29, 2020, 10:05:50 AM
Therefore, we as citizens use our right to vote as well as possible, do not choose leaders who like the military. Because a leader who invests
too much in the military will force his people to follow the country's rules, although many policies are detrimental to its people. Do not have
a leader who is more concerned with personal interests than the people. Therefore I really don't like communist countries that have leaders
who never listen to their people. A healthy country is one that always puts the interests of its citizens first.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: FACE 2 FACE on October 29, 2020, 10:44:38 AM
In fact, the arms race and the investment of billions of dollars in the military-industrial complex is not what people living on the planet need. All these things related to building up strength and defenses are games played by those in whose hands the power is.

They create the illusion that only enemies surround us, that Russia and the United States are enemies, that the United States and China are enemies. We are being told this from TV screens by deceitful politicians, while this is not at all the case.

The world is much more friendly than they try to lie about it in the news.


Title: Re: Crisis will be new normal but its not bad
Post by: ethereumhunter on October 29, 2020, 02:42:55 PM
Vaccines should be made and researched for at least 1 year because they will see the side effects after being injected with the vaccine, because if you don't carry out such a process then mass production can be used as experimental material because there is no certainty what side effects will be in the next few years. and it needs to be remembered that the human body's metabolism is very different so you have to be careful with the vaccines that are produced.

Hopefully, the vaccines can be released before the end of this year to help people who get infected. But it will need to wait for a while to see the reaction for the patient of the Covid-19 because the effect will be different from each other. If many people can get a cure from the virus, we will have new hope that the crisis will end soon, and every person can work again to recover themselves.