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Title: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: cryptoboss2020 on October 16, 2020, 03:46:49 PM
lets say world will go all most in bitcoin and crypto.....

and  i sell something today but tomorow the price is  more or less?
so today btc price is 10k and tomorow maybe 9k?
anyone can explain to me how that will work?
but my 10k usd or eur is tomrow same?
how the bitcoin and eth and other crypto creators will solve this problem?
or if i want to keep my current value its my own problem to exchange my btc into fiat currency if i want to keep value.




thank you :)


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: sheenshane on October 16, 2020, 04:07:29 PM
Probably you need to read this article ( https://bitcoin.org/en/faq#general ) and it explained very well the volatility of Bitcoin and how the price circulation is made.

But here is my short insight, basically it is because of the demand and supply that makes Bitcoin fluctuate and meaning to say, it has a fixed amount. If you will sell today in a small amount, that doesn't have effect on the price (unless, if you will sell a huge amount), anytime soon Bitcoin will change its price, using this website (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/) you can follow the price flow. After purchasing Bitcoin just hold it until the price fluctuates into a high price, that's how you will make a profit with the perfect timing of selling your Bitcoin.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: palle11 on October 16, 2020, 04:28:55 PM
Bitcoin is highly fluctuating because of demand and supply. When there is huge sells against buy, you are likely to see such a high rate of volatility. Supply of bitcoin is limited to 21m, these are all factors. Fiat is not limited in any form.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Ucy on October 16, 2020, 04:52:34 PM
You could use stablecoin for that. Hope you know what stablecoin is. It's basically coin that is designed to be "stable"... as stable as fiat currencies or  some other stable things.

Stablecoin and cryptocurrency like Bitcoin can exist side by side. One can be used more for buying and selling while the other can be used more as Store of value, or for saving coins/assets(long-term saving esp) .
A good Cryptocurrency would keep increasing in price as people find it valuable/useful, hold/save it and demands keep increasing. This feature (called deflationary feature) protects savers funds from future inflation.
 By the way, price of goods and services could be both in stablecoin and cryptocurrency. The stablecoin could help make things less confusing for buyers and sellers when Bitcoin/crypto fluctuates


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: cryptoboss2020 on October 16, 2020, 04:54:46 PM
You could use stablecoin for that. Hope you know what stablecoin means. It's basically coins that are designed to be "stable"... as stable as fiat currencies or  some other stable things.

Stablecoin and cryptocurrency like Bitcoin can exist side by side. One can be used more for buying and selling while the other can be used more as Store of value, or for saving coins/assets(long-term saving esp) .
A good Cryptocurrency would keep increasing in price as people find it valuable/useful, hold/save it and demands keep increasing. This feature (called deflationary feature) protects savers funds from future inflation.
 By the way, price of goods and services could be both in stablecoin and cryptocurrency. The stablecoin could help make things less confusing for buyers and sellers when Bitcoin/crypto fluctuates



so far stable coins are one the best in things in crypto yes i know what are the stable coins.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: acroman08 on October 16, 2020, 06:47:23 PM
you, claiming to be an experienced trader on your other thread I would have assumed that you have an Idea why bitcoin's price is volatile. I thought a trader would have wanted to know these things to further understand what they are trading. anyway, I can't say that I understand the fluctuation/volatility of bitcoin's price completely but reading articles regarding the topic it seems that supply and demand is a good answer. but if you still have further questions that need to be answered it would be best to search through the internet while waiting for others to answer your question here in the forum.

as experinced trader i can tell that btc price gaps getting longer and orders not filled.
we see that no traders the newbies are out of cash and no other sources of income.
the excnhagers getting closed and short of cash low cap coins getting disabled and so.....
-snip


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: cryptoboss2020 on October 16, 2020, 07:33:32 PM
you, claiming to be an experienced trader on your other thread I would have assumed that you have an Idea why bitcoin's price is volatile. I thought a trader would have wanted to know these things to further understand what they are trading. anyway, I can't say that I understand the fluctuation/volatility of bitcoin's price completely but reading articles regarding the topic it seems that supply and demand is a good answer. but if you still have further questions that need to be answered it would be best to search through the internet while waiting for others to answer your question here in the forum.

as experinced trader i can tell that btc price gaps getting longer and orders not filled.
we see that no traders the newbies are out of cash and no other sources of income.
the excnhagers getting closed and short of cash low cap coins getting disabled and so.....
-snip

yes im not cryptocurrency expert im here just for profit.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: CarnagexD on October 16, 2020, 08:04:30 PM
This is a dream that we can never have simply because all of us wants to benefit with bitcoin, accept the fact that it isn't a currency anymore as it was designed to work for, it is an investment now, a back up and a new class of storing wealth. In short, we cannot solve the fluctuation of bitcoin as long as people are trading it, if you gonna spend bitcoins forget about the word 'regret' coz you will really feel it at some point.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Sebas.tian on October 16, 2020, 08:40:23 PM
I would have advise OP on some issues: don't hold huge stash of Bitcoin and ethereum without not considering stablecoins whenever the cryptocurrency market tends bear. Most of my time when the market tends to get into red then I switch into stablecoins to avert my loss. Well, nothing anyone can do with this happenings but just be smart which ever way to take the needed profits.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: cryptoboss2020 on October 16, 2020, 08:47:46 PM
I would have advise OP on some issues: don't hold huge stash of Bitcoin and ethereum without not considering stablecoins whenever the cryptocurrency market tends bear. Most of my time when the market tends to get into red then I switch into stablecoins to avert my loss. Well, nothing anyone can do with this happenings but just be smart which ever way to take the needed profits.


bills need to be payed and income stream can not be stopped!  current crypto situation i dont like it.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: XCANA on October 16, 2020, 08:48:44 PM
This is a dream that we can never have simply because all of us wants to benefit with bitcoin, accept the fact that it isn't a currency anymore as it was designed to work for, it is an investment now, a back up and a new class of storing wealth. In short, we cannot solve the fluctuation of bitcoin as long as people are trading it, if you gonna spend bitcoins forget about the word 'regret' coz you will really feel it at some point.
That's just the truth, there's nothing anyone can do about this Bitcoin volatility and other cryptocurrencies. Sometimes, it good to switch between from high volatility coins to stablecoins for security purposes. Don't imitate the whales in the industry because they're big in their holdings, so, safely keep your coins into stablecoins to minimize your loses.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: joniboini on October 16, 2020, 08:50:34 PM
bills need to be payed and income stream can not be stopped!  current crypto situation i dont like it.
Well I suggest you should not rely on your trading income then. Trading should not be your main source of income unless you're godly skilled at it. Some traders that I know of has two or three side-job to pay their bills. Relying on trading profits when you're not that good at it or when you don't have any capital to spare is risky as hell. The risk and reward ratio is probably not good either.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Twinkledoe on October 16, 2020, 08:54:26 PM
You could use stablecoin for that. Hope you know what stablecoin is. It's basically coins that are designed to be "stable"... as stable as fiat currencies or  some other stable things.

Stablecoin and cryptocurrency like Bitcoin can exist side by side. One can be used more for buying and selling while the other can be used more as Store of value, or for saving coins/assets(long-term saving esp) .
A good Cryptocurrency would keep increasing in price as people find it valuable/useful, hold/save it and demands keep increasing. This feature (called deflationary feature) protects savers funds from future inflation.
 By the way, price of goods and services could be both in stablecoin and cryptocurrency. The stablecoin could help make things less confusing for buyers and sellers when Bitcoin/crypto fluctuates

I think the OP needs to read some basic articles here just like what sheenshane provided. But for him to at least not worry about volatility, he can start with stable coin like USDT, but not big investment just small one to start with and have the grasp how cryptocurrency works. He needs to start with small funds as crypto is really a high risk investment. And from that point, he can start checking out btc or eth, and learn the market price movement. It is not easy at first, but with more info, he will understand more what's going on with crypto.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: cryptoboss2020 on October 16, 2020, 10:07:25 PM
bills need to be payed and income stream can not be stopped!  current crypto situation i dont like it.
Well I suggest you should not rely on your trading income then. Trading should not be your main source of income unless you're godly skilled at it. Some traders that I know of has two or three side-job to pay their bills. Relying on trading profits when you're not that good at it or when you don't have any capital to spare is risky as hell. The risk and reward ratio is probably not good either.



lol:D i got no time for this , i give btc few more days!


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Viscore on October 16, 2020, 10:50:09 PM
It explains mutliple times how volatility works and how the market change. Volatility is the nature of this market, we can't hold it nor able to change it. But the reason why many people have an interest in this is because a higher chance to become profitable.

Let say, you buy Bitcoin at $10k today and possible that it can be $9k by tomorrow. I understand your worries but have you think that there is no chance that it goes higher that $10k by tomorrow then?

If you are living with those worries and doubts, there is no reason for you to keep crypto in your life. If you are not comfortble with this, I suggest to leave and never push yourself to a thing that you are unhappy. It certainly stressful to you honestly seeing the pump and pump scenario.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: hatshepsut93 on October 16, 2020, 11:46:24 PM
lets say world will go all most in bitcoin and crypto.....

If that happened, Bitcoin would automatically stop being so volatile, because volatility comes from lack of liquidity and uncertainty about its feature, i.e. whether mass adoption is actually coming or not. Bitcoin would probably always be more volatile than fiat currencies, since there's no central bank to stabilize it, but it's theoretically possible, and maybe even quite likely that it will eventually stop being so volatile.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: vania vin on October 17, 2020, 12:37:09 AM
lets say world will go all most in bitcoin and crypto.....

and  i sell something today but tomorow the price is  more or less?
so today btc price is 10k and tomorow maybe 9k?
anyone can explain to me how that will work?
but my 10k usd or eur is tomrow same?
how the bitcoin and eth and other crypto creators will solve this problem?
or if i want to keep my current value its my own problem to exchange my btc into fiat currency if i want to keep value.




thank you :)
no one can predict tomorrow, today 10k maybe tomorrow 9k it could be tomorrow 11k too. I only sold half and I kept half for my hold. That's very fair


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: $crypto$ on October 17, 2020, 01:44:57 AM
It explains mutliple times how volatility works and how the market change. Volatility is the nature of this market, we can't hold it nor able to change it. But the reason why many people have an interest in this is because a higher chance to become profitable.

Let say, you buy Bitcoin at $10k today and possible that it can be $9k by tomorrow. I understand your worries but have you think that there is no chance that it goes higher that $10k by tomorrow then?

If you are living with those worries and doubts, there is no reason for you to keep crypto in your life. If you are not comfortble with this, I suggest to leave and never push yourself to a thing that you are unhappy. It certainly stressful to you honestly seeing the pump and pump scenario.
I think if the dependence on trading then there will be a concern because they don't know when bitcoin will go up and down so I think it shouldn't be more important compared to other income, bitcoin is quite stable at the moment 10k but don't know tomorrow or the day after that will happens so we never know the movement of its fluctuations when it occurs in the market.

If I have doubts about what I think about the price of bitcoin with its ups and downs then it will be stressful for me too if we think of other things to not focus on trading then this will be a sideline for me.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Debonaire217 on October 17, 2020, 02:06:51 AM
If I got your question correct OP, everything falls to the concept of Economy in which the demand and supply dictates what the price of a product or services could be. To explain it further imagine if you really want to buy something in limited supply. since no one wants to sell theirs, you will think of ideas in order to buy it, the best possible way you could acquire the product/service is through buying it more than its price. The same thing is happening when people want's to sell right away, it pushes the price to decline.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: btc-facebook on October 17, 2020, 02:20:23 AM
The price of Bitcoin or other crypto will always be volatile and you will not be able to change it stable because the price of bitcoin depends on market demand,
there is another solution if you want to save assets in cryptocurrency but don't want their value to decrease, you can save your assets to stable coins such as USDT or DAI,


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: shoreno on October 17, 2020, 02:47:39 AM
devs of those unstable coins cant do anything on why thier coins are like that but they are happy to see that their creations work as they wanted to . if you sell now while the price is rich then congrats with you and you dont need to worry if what will happen after . its not already your business to know that or to regret with that unless you still have your coins and you didnt sell  and you miss todays pump because your waiting for more .

some devs/experts create a solution to unstability and that is stable coins . you can try that before you sell your crypto to fiat just because you want to prolong thier value


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: BuNga_cute on October 17, 2020, 02:49:34 AM
Interestingly Bitcoin it has a volatile price, it happens because of supply and demand. With the volatile price of Bitcoin we can use it
to make a profit. Try to imagine if Bitcoin is stable, as well as fiat how we can make a profit. I do expect Bitcoin to always be volatile,
so I can take advantage of the difference in Bitcoin prices every day. If it turns out that Bitcoin goes down,  we just hold on until the
price goes up again. Because Bitcoin has the advantage of recovering quickly. If you want to be stable, you can invest in stablecoins.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Gotumoot on October 17, 2020, 03:05:30 AM
lets say world will go all most in bitcoin and crypto.....

and  i sell something today but tomorow the price is  more or less?
so today btc price is 10k and tomorow maybe 9k?
anyone can explain to me how that will work?
but my 10k usd or eur is tomrow same?
how the bitcoin and eth and other crypto creators will solve this problem?
or if i want to keep my current value its my own problem to exchange my btc into fiat currency if i want to keep value.




thank you :)
Crypto price depends on the demand so it is volatile if you don't want your money to fluctuate it's price then you should keep it on Fiat for sure it wouldn't easily fluctuate it could remain in the same value.
The creators/Developers couldn't do anything to the price since we as holders/investors/traders dictate the price of every crypto by creating demand to each of them.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: d_fitrie on October 17, 2020, 08:47:18 AM
From the first, the price of bitcoin has changed and is unstable and has their respective advantages, you can buy and wait to sell at high prices, that's normal, monitor market developments and monitor the latest information in the crypto world so your bitcoin investment is not wrong.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on October 17, 2020, 09:06:44 AM
It is not enough to just know when you have bitcoin, you may need more knowledge when you having it. Indeed, there will be many people who will say bitcoin is like gold or digital gold, but to me bitcoin is slightly different to gold. You are fine when you hold gold for long time because the people will always know gold will have a high value.

Different with bitcoin, although it was born since 11 years ago but there are many people who still doesn't believe it. Even, some of them just thinking that bitcoin will have no value in the future (that I think it is impossible). That is just other people thinking, because when you understood it and know the ins and out against it you will have a thinking that bitcoin will always have a value.

As for your concern, I suggest to improve your knowledge against bitcoin and also you have to improve your mindset against investment. Until you will know about short term and long term strategy then I'm sure you will be fine with the volatility of bitcoin price and also you will be comfortble to having it.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Inkdatar on October 17, 2020, 09:26:34 AM
When entering the world of crypto industry we should do some detailed information first or at least the basic info as to how bitcoin works. The volatile price is include of high risk, this is why you should also consider to have some stable coins. But, we know most people or users adopts crypto because of the huge opportunity to earn profit. When someone's sells their is a decline in price, so study the market that way you will earned and adopt the flow of bitcoin volatility of price.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Reatim on October 17, 2020, 09:54:30 AM
When entering the world of crypto industry we should do some detailed information first or at least the basic info as to how bitcoin works. The volatile price is include of high risk, this is why you should also consider to have some stable coins. But, we know most people or users adopts crypto because of the huge opportunity to earn profit. When someone's sells their is a decline in price, so study the market that way you will earned and adopt the flow of bitcoin volatility of price.
this must not only inside cryptocurrency but in everything we do or enter we must always learn the basic first.
what more in this when we are putting our money to risk?Bitcoin and all cryptocurrecies are decentralized meaning this will take long before the world finally accept this.
for this we need to keep the waiting even if this take us for years or more.
Ethereum on the other hand has the basic also standing as rank number 2?i believe that this will goes with bitcoin when we reach the top soon.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: ekeh on October 17, 2020, 05:21:49 PM
Bitcoin is the number one alt-coin across the community and BTC is still the King of cryptocurrency, with a high volatile movement in crypto industries. Base on the current price is very good to invest in future time.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: BlackFor3st on October 17, 2020, 08:27:21 PM
If you want to use bitcoin and other volatile currencies then you should be ready in facing their changes every now and then but if you don't like your money to change that much then stable currency is what you need to use or hold.

If you are going to use USDT for example then you are holding the same with USD value, the changes of price is pretty small and you can feel safe that you money is still intact even if you are going to use it in the following years.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: mangsitin on October 17, 2020, 10:12:23 PM
it is a crypto chart, crypto volatility is difficult to predict.  2009 bitcoin has no value.  and now everyone is talking bitcoin.  2017 bitcoin hit 20K and today it fell.  and stable at 11,300 $.  Fiat doesn't have graphics like crypto, and I don't think it's profitable.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Nhebu on October 17, 2020, 10:19:36 PM
If you want to use bitcoin and other volatile currencies then you should be ready in facing their changes every now and then but if you don't like your money to change that much then stable currency is what you need to use or hold.

If you are going to use USDT for example then you are holding the same with USD value, the changes of price is pretty small and you can feel safe that you money is still intact even if you are going to use it in the following years.
When I do scalping, I prefer to be in usdt pair trading because the volatility is too much low compare to btc. I can easily handle my losses and wins when I am scalping in usdt pairs. However, when I want to swing I used my bitcoin to buy altcoins. This is what I have learned when I observed the market. They tend to pull out when the btc dominates them. And if your coins are in btc, you will not easily know if it goes up or down.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: ice098 on October 18, 2020, 12:54:05 AM
If you want to use bitcoin and other volatile currencies then you should be ready in facing their changes every now and then but if you don't like your money to change that much then stable currency is what you need to use or hold.

If you are going to use USDT for example then you are holding the same with USD value, the changes of price is pretty small and you can feel safe that you money is still intact even if you are going to use it in the following years.

Cryptocurrency was a volatile coin since then for me there is no such word stable that fits in cryptocurrency. Everytime prices may varies depend upon the demand in the market or the supply. Looking for a stable coin then you can count on a fiat or USDT. Cryptocurrency value may change if and even if theres a whales who were going to buy a huge amount of token or would sell their huge token. But if ever you're going to sell your token but small amount i bet it wouldn't make any fluctuations in the market values.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 18, 2020, 01:26:03 AM
yes im not cryptocurrency expert im here just for profit.
That is what investors want :P Profit.
Profit is the one who is destroying lives of people :P. I'm wrong?? Lemme explain.
Because of profit, even though people are just newbies or doesn't know anything about it they will just throw their money away.

I'm not saying that profit is bad since there is no bad profit at all. What I'm trying to say is at least learn the basics of it especially trading since you are just here for profit unless you want to hold then good for you.

bills need to be payed and income stream can not be stopped!  current crypto situation i dont like it.
Don't rely on one income stream only. You don't like the current crypto situation then we don't care :P. Find another income stream and don't complain.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: peter0425 on October 18, 2020, 02:16:48 AM
lets say world will go all most in bitcoin and crypto.....

and  i sell something today but tomorow the price is  more or less?
so today btc price is 10k and tomorow maybe 9k?
anyone can explain to me how that will work?
but my 10k usd or eur is tomrow same?
how the bitcoin and eth and other crypto creators will solve this problem?
or if i want to keep my current value its my own problem to exchange my btc into fiat currency if i want to keep value.




thank you :)
when that time happens,value in Fiat will not anymore exist because we will be talking about the value in bitcoin or altcoin,how much in crypto value we will be buying and selling and that is what will happen.
it is a crypto chart, crypto volatility is difficult to predict.  2009 bitcoin has no value.  and now everyone is talking bitcoin.  2017 bitcoin hit 20K and today it fell.  and stable at 11,300 $.  Fiat doesn't have graphics like crypto, and I don't think it's profitable.
it is not about the prediction of prices but in which how we can use it against fiat and the terms are laid down we only have to adopt the crypto to have   good function.


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: cryptoboss2020 on October 18, 2020, 06:34:40 PM
yes im not cryptocurrency expert im here just for profit.
That is what investors want :P Profit.
Profit is the one who is destroying lives of people :P. I'm wrong?? Lemme explain.
Because of profit, even though people are just newbies or doesn't know anything about it they will just throw their money away.

I'm not saying that profit is bad since there is no bad profit at all. What I'm trying to say is at least learn the basics of it especially trading since you are just here for profit unless you want to hold then good for you.

bills need to be payed and income stream can not be stopped!  current crypto situation i dont like it.
Don't rely on one income stream only. You don't like the current crypto situation then we don't care :P. Find another income stream and don't complain.


lol:D if i need this kind of advice i will ask lol:D
im really not type of person here then you  to say this nonsense kind of BS like this !!:)


you talk with some kids like this :D


Title: Re: btc volaitlity and price also the eth and others
Post by: Asuspawer09 on October 18, 2020, 07:31:05 PM
lets say world will go all most in bitcoin and crypto.....

and  i sell something today but tomorow the price is  more or less?
so today btc price is 10k and tomorow maybe 9k?
anyone can explain to me how that will work?
but my 10k usd or eur is tomrow same?
how the bitcoin and eth and other crypto creators will solve this problem?
or if i want to keep my current value its my own problem to exchange my btc into fiat currency if i want to keep value.




thank you :)

When someone sells or you sell your bitcoin or eth for example there is a high chance that the market price of it is gonna go dump especially when you sell a high volume of that crypto because of the supply and demand in a certain market but it might still increase at some point.

Holding your bitcoin for example a 1 bitcoin, there is a big chance that the value of that bitcoin could go up and down because of its volatility but as long as you don't sell your investment the value is still 1 bitcoin. You could just convert your bitcoin into fiat money if you want to keep it in that value but when converted it is not going to earn a potential profit anymore since its fiat money.

I still recommend investing in cryptocurrency when you have extra funds that could potentially give you a profit but don't forget to make your own research in trading and cryptocurrency.