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I am active in gambling forum board and today I received private message in forum from newbie member wbet7pending (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2839252) allegedly platinum member from stake,
offering me guaranteed fixed matches (Real rigged/fixed matches)  and asking for payment commission after win and contact on telegram @ampletown
I don't know how many members received similar message from him but I think many who are active in gambling.

I looked at his post history and all of his posts are in WBet7.com, and I don't trust him or anyone selling fixed matches.
Archived posts (https://web.archive.org/web/20201018185512/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile%3Bu%3D2839252%3Bsa%3DshowPosts)

This is not the guy who has wanted to committed suicide for about the issue of wbet7 withdrawal issue. Atleast I want to thanks the GOD that the user still alive. I thought maybe something bad already happened  with him after can not seeing him long time. But now he is started to promote Fixed matches offer. Lol

Is not trustworthy to me. Everybody should avoid him.

Report the PM for unsolicited advertising, that's a bannable offense since mods don't look at fixed matches cases.

This guy's a Stake Platinum member? So how does he expect you to send the commission to him? If he asks you to send it to his Stake deposit address, he'll also run afoul of Stake's TOS prohibiting more than one person from using an account (IIRC).

Not too long ago, there was another user with their own fixed matches thread here in the Gambling board, I forgot the which thread it was. Participating in things like these can get you in legal trouble if you're caught.

I deleted his message but I made screenshot and this topic before that but I didn't report him to moderators.


I doubt he is platinum anything, and I don't know how he found me except if he is reading some of my betting predictions posts.

There were some posts and threads that offer fixed matches too. I don't trust any of them. He made a thread that's moved to Off-topic. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282816.0)
It's also a good idea if you'll post or share this with the official stake thread(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2072589.6640). At least, they will be alarmed that there's the latest person that does this.

well, that's a shame. I was glad he was able to go past about his suicidal thoughts(and still is) when he created a thread. but with this unsolicited PM and a very suspicious offer. I am now not even sure of what happened to him with web7bet was true or made up.

also, shouldn't this be in reputation board?( I might be wrong though)

I haven't received such message so far. No offence, but if someone here believes that he can buy fixed games from random guy on forum, he is just stupid. I'm not sure how many buyers these fixed games sellers get here, but I hope that Bitcointalk members aren't stupid to fall into such obvious scam.

I doubt about it. Biggest problem that you may get there is loss of money and feeding scammer. Other thing would be if these games actually would be fixed. Though, I'm not sure that buyers of fixed games are punished for it. I think that mainly people behind this and players involved in fixed games would be in big problem if they're caught.

I guess as long as the newbies here are alarmed and cautious with this user, we must have no fear of him scamming people. Yes, it is really a ban-worthy offence if someone promotes illegal fixed matches, even the Stake wouldn't allow nor tolerate the use of it. Yes, some games can be fixed (in which is very common ever since, especially if the stakes are high or the league must be prolonged. But selling such information is just nonsense. Also (on the other side of the card), if the sender seems to be "telling you information first" and only asks for commisions right after, shouldn't he be scared also to the fact that he can make others' win but would rather not pay him after a singe game?

Haven't received such PM, but I will agree with @LTU_btc, there's no such thing as fixed match and if ever there will be, I don't think that someone will just blurted if out in public because there are consequences if you are caught. And there are sport bookies that are combing bets and any sports, and if they see something odd, like wild bet swing, it will be flagged.

And this is not the first case though, I remember the influx of supposedly fixed betting here in 2017, didn't materialised as gamblers are too intelligent to fall for this trick. And I think this user should be reported, or you haven't received the message then we can reference this thread.

Nobody should lie to any member in this forum. There is nothing like a fixed match tip or even if it were there, only very few parties would know about it. There would be no point of risking getting jailed by making it public for just a few bucks.

I have a friend who wholeheartedly believed in fixed matches until he lost all his money through buying the fake fixed match tips and the high stakes made expecting assured high returns  ;D

When it comes to fixed matches information or some sort that do came from someone randomly on the net without you asking for it then its 101% scam attempt for me.
These information cant really just go pop out into public places and just randomly telling someone that they had fixed matches.Even though they dont ask out
for initial payment and just saying that you do pay after on the outcome then you cant still be sure if that one is just a pure guess or what just for them to get
some share of your winnings.This had been a typical thing that do happen and do target out most noobs who do easily being fooled for easy money schemes.

 ;D the fixed match doesn't exist anywhere, this system has  been around the social medias with these bigot called 'true fixed match available'. If there's some fixed match they won't allow us get close to the corridor of fortune, I equally have gotten unsolicited messages from those pretenders and better to keep off from their end.

Well, it's a pretty stupid way of scamming or something. People who want info about match fixed stuff should go to them, not the other way around. As for how they would know? Well, it's up to the one who wants to know to research properly. Cause really, the fact that they're looking for people to join in on their match-fixing is a sign of a scam already. Additionally, fixed matches only happen on a small circle, so what's the sense of it actually spreading it in public?

Oddly enough, the newbie in question was actually scammed by wbet7 it seems, and yet here he is doing things that would probably also flag him as a scammer. Whether he could truly do as his word says, but the fact that he's selling info about fixed matches is more than enough to flag him as one I suppose.

This modus just wouldn't die. I'm sure wbet7pending will not be the last one to try to attempt offering what are claimed as fixed or rigged games. This particular section in the forum has been a witness to the history of all kinds of crazy threads and members who are sharing so-called fixed matches.

I admit I am one who got curious about these offers and placed a little bet myself. If I can remember it right, it was a table tennis match in one of the Chinese leagues. And, as quite expected, it all ended up a loss.

And who will trust a newbie offering this serious matter?i dont think any one here will believe that claim not unless he will give it for free and make sure to win.

Never trust Newbie that will send PM not only if this is a no money involved matter or no links shared because mostly they send phishing or fake links.

And i don't believe there is a real fixed matches i doubt this exist.

That member seems desperate to earn to recover all his losses. He is also interested in earning merits to rank up so I'm thinking he also wants to earn from promoting casinos in his signature space.

Stay away from people who comes to you and say something guaranteed money making as a rule of thumb.

I'm pretty sure it's not just him who is selling these so-called fixed matches. Whether it's direct messaging or in the marketplace, there's still no guarantee with that. It's just like what trading signals offers, making it look like it's always going to be the way, but it's not. There is no guarantee with that unless you are part of that under the wraps thing. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist because there are probably many people controlling the outcome, but it's hard for the people involved to involve other people in the first place publicly. Remember that they are strangers to you and would love to get money from you whenever they can.

he said he have a plat account on stake but that would be believable if he can prove that he really own the account .

 im still wondering how he do it if he was only a regular player on that site or unless he have connection to the owner of that site but i dont think the owner of that site will honor the accuse because this will damage thier repuation . if found the user guilty , his platinum account is also in danger . the money and the effort that he made will all be useless for this attempt  .

I'm wondering how the fixed match works especially if everyone knows that, who will the one to lose money?  ;D
Anyway, I also received many messages not just on this forum but on my social accounts which I rejected right away because I know its just a scam message and I don't gamble from anyone's advice. Deal only with the legit gambling site and you will have your real enjoyment, don't trust any of this or else you will suffer later on.

Fixed match exist sometimes, but only the top personality knows this thing and this is how they make money, it will never be available to the public.
Those messages are just a spam, report it to the moderator so the account will be banned if proven. Yes, gambling is already risky so don't make it more complicated and deal with the licensed gambling site or even to those gambling site with a good reputation from this community.

it works where the match are not played fairly . not all  knows this but only the person that is close to the players and to the owners are going to know if theres a fixed match going on ,

how do you know that they dont exist ? if they dont exist , people should not came up with the questions and offer like this and there is no words fixed match should exist . i also see them on social media before but most of them are just obviously fake , they grab payment proofs from somewhere else to look like they are legit and there could be less knowledgeable people that will still fall to them  .

I've heard so many matches like this on a boxing and most of the speculator already speculate that the boxing match is a fixed match, well this is one of the popular boxer I guess, there's no proof of a fixed match though. I don't know where that guy get the access for this kind of match and I don't know the reason why he need to message everyone here where he can bet all in on that match and make profit alone if its legit, well this is a scam message so It's not worth to try.

People should wonder if a person knows a match is fixed and who's going to win, why wouldn't they bet on the match themselves and make huge money out of it instead of depending on payment from other users for buying that information making it much more riskier to get leaked and the match getting cancelled? Makes no sense! If I knew what the outcome would be, I would better bet my own money to make good money rather than selling that info lol. Common sense. Why these are all scams!

Based on his history post this user have a huge problem with the wbet7 sports betting website

I was assuming that he was doing such scam in order to regain back that the wbet7 website scammed from him.

Just please stay away from the user.

I don't receive his message, and even if I got the message, I don't want to use his services because I don't know him. I hope that other members can avoid that too because we don't know for sure. Maybe we can place a bet on ourselves, so we don't risk the money to other people because our money will be ours responsibly. If you got a message from other people who offers the services, you should disagree with him, but you must search for other info to find the truth.

Selling fix matches is enough to distrust him/her. It's clearly illegal/immoral to fix matches not to talk of selling fix matches for people to bet on.
Sometimes I wonder if people who encourage this things know it's wrong to do so.

Seem I'm not the only one who received such message, I ignored it but didn't know he sent it to many here's proof of mine.

https://i.imgur.com/eKE3yua.png

Anyone who are doing the same cannot be trusted, may it be newbie or Legendary in the forum, I still would not trust because it's a complete scam.

I haven't receive a message yet but I'll just disregard it if I will, so to those who are thinking of sending me that kind of message, don't waste your time.

I received PM from wbet7pending but I ignored it because the offer they offered was not enough for me, still this is not the right thing as they send many PMs to people in this forum so surely wbet7pending will do something with its platimum offer.

Maybe he is already stressed that he thinks of this kind of thing and does something indecent of course those who accept PM won't like it this way.

these messages have been already discussed here since it's just another scam attempt. I am also been contacted some months ago by one of them (check the trust that I have left).

How it works this scam? they will give random results that could be probable, like over 2.5 or somewhat. If you win you will be grateful and send a tip!
but it was just pure luck. never trust any of these "offers", thanks for pointing out with this thread.

Obviously he is not stressed. Scammer always a scammer and this is what they always do for a living. His offer is a bit too good to be true. If he really knows a fixed match game, why not he take some line then bet all-in on that match since he was claiming that the game was rigged and he knows it. This kind of cheap trick is very old and I believe no one will ever believe on this kind of fraud. Even if its legit, there is no way that a guy who knows fixed will offer here via PM.  :D

Maybe he didn't want to take the risk of his own offer even though it was certain that in the match they should bet more if it was proven by the victory he offered.
But I think with the offer in match betting, of course it will not make many believe because with Pm first, especially a newbie, it will be considered a scamer by some people, even though it is stated that it is legal.

If he is not asking for advance fee, you should have at least test whether his information is genuine or not but as what I see also there is a big possibility that he is scammer.

Enough evidence to prove that they are scammer is that they are spreading private messages to the forum members that they have guaranteed fixed matches but if you are going to think it carefully, most of the genuine fixed matches will not do this kind of thing and instead they will keep it secret as much as possible so they will be the one to benefit from it because fixed matches can really bring you a huge amount of money.

Indeed, newbies  offering ay services looks very suspicious at all, I'm sorry if you're reading this but that's what it really looks like, especially when they offer ridiculous offer like this lol. I'd trust a newbie if he got any copper membership, that means he inserted an effort which makes sense for offering a service and if it has a merit.


There isn't fixed games, that would be risk for the platform LOL.

How about if the first try been a win, then what are your thoughts about it? Do you trust him directly proving out single bet won? I might rather believe if he do give out 5 tips
on different events and consecutive win then that would really might changed up my mind to believe on what he's claiming.Few bets wont really be a solid thing to rely
or to presume that he had really fixed matches information.Majority of these informations that lurking around are just for scammers who are trying to
victimized people on the way they do believe that they can make easy money with fixed matches.

It is funny that some one would promise and give guarantee on fixed matches and it is even funnier that it's coming from newbie.
Every gambler knows that there is no really fixed matches in sport betting. Every of these fixed matches advert are just the ploy of scammers to lure unsuspecting gamblers to part ways with their hard earned money.
In all my years as a gambler, I have avoided all promises of easy win or guarantees on fixed matches and I have, in that way, save myself from falling into the hands of scammers.

Besides it does not really make a lot of sense, after all supposing he has access to those games why he just does not bet himself on them and if he has no money then why not ask for a loan to the bank or to some friend, pay the money he owes and then get all the profits to himself? To me it seems a very clear attempt to scam the OP and it will be interesting to see if anyone else received the same or a similar message as it seems unlikely this user will try to give this supposed opportunity only to the OP.

I also received a PM from that user but as usual for an offer like that, it's automatically ignored.

Then I forgot about it until someone in Telegram also message me. The offer was the same.

I don't know how that user learns my Telegram ID as I'm not even joining bounties (just in case OP check some bounty sheets) for almost 2-3 years now if I'm not mistaken.

This is what I saw a screenshot from telegram user who posted what he got from his PM.


He seem to have sent PMs to many users, not a single of them had a positive responce to the guy and I can understnad why. If he has the advance knowledge of who will win, why does he need to get a commission from you after the win?  He doesn't said 10% or 20% but it wouldn't be worth if he only gets 5%.

I also received a similar message recently. The only thing I did was just ignore it and its author, as well as disable the ability to receive messages from newbies in the settings. I can't even imagine who would be interested in such an offer from newbie.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBQHc68M/wbet7.png

scammers will always find a way how to reach potential victims. you can change the settings of your telegram to avoid unsolicited messages or people that will automatically add you to their group. before, i was wondering why i had that channel and had no idea why i was included? came to find out, some can actually add you without any permission from your end. what you can do is modify the privacy and security settings of your telegram account. check each setting that will suit your preference.


they will try doing that strategy because there are individuals that will somehow go for it. from all those pm's, he may get one or 2 persons that will avail such service.

I think in OP's case on Telegram, it's not via a group or channel but a Direct Message.

Correct me if I'm wrong but AFAIK there's no option on Telegram that restrict users to sent you a DM. The restriction was only on forwarded messages, receiving calls, and unauthorized adding to groups or channels.

I was also surprised how that user knew my Telegram. I didn't receive his spam message here but only on Telegram.

Of course, 100% scams if a stranger suddenly sends a private message offering fixed matches. After all, I never believed in fixed matches.
Because if there are fixed matches it is impossible to spreading to the public, if someone tries to sell fixed matches it is likely a scam.
My advice doesn't need to be responded to if someone offers us fixed matches.

Perhaps I have a much better opinion of other people's mental abilities. I continue to doubt that anyone would agree to his offer. After all, if there is nothing wrong with the offer, then it would be published in a public topic and not sent to each person in private messages.

Well said, even some ICO's send personal message requesting to join their campaigns and spread the word about the project. Fixed matches are there, but it is rare to find such matches to bet on. I personally encountered similar experience of fixed match win, but this happened by the mistake of the gambling site. The game was already over, but the gambling site provided odds for selection. I choosed the winning team odd and got the winning amount.

Let me check my inbox.  ::)

Ohh.. he has not sent me a message yet, this is a scammer, a newbie account that is likely just a throw away account.
For most gamblers here who are active in the forum, maybe we are already aware of this, but somehow he might be a risk to those gamblers who are just starting to learn since fixed match info is really tempting if you believe the service is legit.

Is this really happening?some stupid account will offer fixed matches?damn i can't believe it that .

What i wanna ask is does the account ask for payments first?or just after the event happen that he will get the commission ?
because of does then i think there is another story behind because that is not a total scamming.

But what i believe is if you continue the conversation in the end this will ask you some amount before the game started.

I usually ignore people like this even in telegram and i block each account that will PM randomly and offering BS al the way.

If newbie sent me a message?i will already ignore what the PM says and just move on not Unless it comes from some account that i knew and explaining or asking some favor as long as no money involved.
Surely that i did not received any message from same account or another though newbie has limited PM available so i'm sure if this is an organized group,then they have many accounts to use.
Good that you have denied the offer because I'm sure it is a scam or fooling people .