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why all upcoming and new projects doing scams with bounty hunters for example P2P and YOUengine when bounty distribution is near they dump the token price and fail all hardwork of bounty hunters who help promote their projects many weeks after this promoters get nothing.

When theres a hype or a new trend then expect that there would be a barrage of the same projects that would pop out and completely shit and its not surprising that this one talks about
bounty hunters once again.If you are just new into bounty thing then better get used to it. If those coins does end up on having no value at all or if they gets listed then the price do dump
down go to the floor which it isnt really surprising thats why being a hunter sucks but there are few ones which can really be a fortune if you do hit the sweet spot but
well the chances were less.

Not a scam literally. There's currently a market. It might that investors take action during the early phase of listing to somehow get the best price they can get when selling. It's pretty normal at most of the projects. And besides, don't expect much for bounty rewards today. You have to understand that your efforts and the time you spend might not be rewarded properly.

Are these projects you mentioned delayed bounty payments. If yes, that unprofessional but not totally a scam.

This is old issues that already exist even in Defi projects, after listing on the exchange, that was expected that the price will dump because of the early taker profit, just like you or investors who want to take immediately even it is a small profit.

While promoting those projects that you've mentioned above, you probably know how the potential they have. Because you're promoting them as bounty hunter since the start you must know them already. If so, the judgment is yours if you keep holding the token you had or take quickly your reward after listing on the exchange. For now, almost all projects are in the hype, we can't trust them easily.

There's also a risk even if you're a bounty hunter the same as the investors.

Actually this kind of issues in bounty scene exist for long times and it's a total gamble for bounty hunters right now to join on several campaigns, maybe the best thing you can do for now is to be selective and be accept the fact that almost all of the time that will happen when bounty distribution happen.

That's the reason why I left bounty campaigns for almost 3 years, since the scamming is so rampant and it's a waste of effort to join them.

If you are new to joining bounties, then no surprising you have a feeling like that.

Even back when bounty is alive here, there are already cases wherein projects delays bounty payment.

And even they paid on time, expect that price crash will happen right after the listing. It's a win-win situation. If others didn't receive anything, then that's a scam.

Not all upcoming and new projects are doing scams there are still legit and valued tokens. For the projects that doing 
dumping its not totally scam its their way to gain profit but if they do not distribute the allocated token as payments/rewards then the said projects are totally scam and still lots of bounty hunters are been affected by it and ruins the overall token values.
The dump and pump process of Token may took place by
Being a investor on a project can gave you the upperhand on obtaining the tokens before its official distribution by these plenty of token holder will be do different way to increase its value by announcing it on multiple channels, including social media. At the same time, they are pumping its price on the market by a coordinated purchasing. As the token's price climbs, other traders, unconnected to the pump-and-dump group, also goes onto the buying spree,and further boosting its price. The process will be continue till the number of token of the pump-and-dump group are being sold on the market.
By this situation the pump-and-dump group will eventually stop on pumping/buying simultaneously, this will causes a huge decrease in its price. While the pump-and-dump group makes profits, other traders, who purchased the coin based on false promises, are left holding losses.

That's why as a bounty hunters once should have the knowledge on the market price circulation and process on cryptocurrencies for him to sell and hold the token on the right time. These way you can unlock the skill of trader.

Its not a question of why but for how long? Maybe you are new to this forum but I have been seeing this for a long time now. These projects have been like that for years, new ones come every week and the same story repeats from another user.

Dude come on now, you expect to get rich by doing some bounty spam? Get a real job. These are nothing but free slavery that you all are doing. Open your eyes and brain if you have any left. Such projects have always attracted low income country users but they are all going to be the same.

You need to forget that you wasted time there and use that as a lesson to never take part in any bounty and teach others the same. If you want to earn money get a real job, you could also take part in the bitcoin paying signature campaigns which are running in the forum.

It is difficult to raise money from the bounty at this time, but you can participate in the btc paid signature if you want, but you have to show your skills and gain merit to increase your account position. You would be foolish to take bounty as your first job so you should try another job where you have lots of qualifications.

Are you New in trading? They already knew that bounty hunters will sell their share so there is no reason for them any more to support the price of their coins since supporting the price or not the result will be the same it will decrease its value .

Plus they  completed what they need from hunters which is making a promotion for them so they will get many investors.

is that p2p  related to p2p exchange ? the name is familar and theres still operating till today with less reports . the other one is YOUengine , is this the one that has a pink logo right ? and related to mcafee?  . if it is well mcafee has already involved on scam projects but hunters still join it because they think that influence of the guy can make the project stand out . dumping of the price is not only the thing that they can do but investors can also do it , its okay if the issue is only dumping of price but if the issue is also not paying the hunters , thats a different story anymore .

It is p2pcash project. Have commented on their thread several times as I've seen them dump from about 200+sats to now 9sats. But that scenario is actually not the first time. It has been the norm of most crap alts. Even before distribution, the price already starts to go down, so once the hunters received their share, the price already is at the bottom, you are lucky if you can get few bucks. Nowadays, it is better to join campaigns paying in btc under reputable manager. With that kind of campaign, you are sure that you will be paid every week.

Im still lucky that i quit on p2p, i was tempted by the high rewards but my instinct says dont join because it will be a scam. And i think the manager of p2p and youengine is only one.

you're lucky that you still managed to get your tokens even though the project dumps it they still manage to distribute the token some other projects just run away when after the bounty campaign. at the end of the they still the bounty hunters just wasted their time and effort.

Why wouldn't they? It is easy money for them. It is like asking why do muggers mug you in the middle of the street. Those bounty projects take advantage of those naïve (i would rather call them stupid) people who gets hyped by those new "projects". In the process, they use those bounty hunters to promote their project. Once they get enough promotion and people invest in it, they dump their tokens and then exits the project. The hunters and the investors get screwed.
Both the investors and the bounty hunters are to be blamed for encouraging those scammers by investing and promoting their scams.

Not all of them, there will be some project as well that gives a lot of profit for a bounty hunter. I saw a few days ago there was a bounty program namely DAO project which gives at least $1500 for each participant, seeing the spreadsheet and the DAO's price on coinmarketcap. Meaning, you can still be benefited if you have a good analyst against the project that you promote.

But it is otherwise when you promote a scam project the impact that you get will be two, first you'll never get a profit as you promise before, and second, you will be blamed against many investors who invest in the project. The promotion that you do like through Twitter or other social media it will make an interest for those who see it. They will spend the money to invest in the project with the hope that they will make a profit.

Are you new to the game of project listings? It's the most expected thing to happen whenever a project has successfully listed to an exchange and they have made the sale finished and reached the expectation that they have set.

They will allow to dump first the investors and probably including the developers as it's their reward. As for the bounty hunters, you'll just look at the price of that token while it's going down while waiting for your tokens to arrive at your wallet.

Sad story of every bounty hunter here. I wonder if they ever feel ashamed of seeing this happen and themselves look like fools for working on that project.  :-X

Reality for every crypto project out there is that the owners and advisors dump their tokens once the lock in periods are over. Small-cap retail investors hoping for a 5-10% gain will not be even get that, heck may go into negative values.

I hope some of the hunters actually read these posts before joining another bounty because the last one failed. That cycle is vicious and never ending. The only way to stop it is to shun all bounties and go for bitcoin paying campaigns.

The traders are not so stupids and they will need to buy the tokens that have already received by the hunters at the cheap rate. The dump will always come before the distribution of bounty. Just take a look at DIA and the same thing was also happening when the traders wanna try to accumulate more and more cheap coins.

You should also see the ARCS coin and the price is going back again to the rate before the dump.  ;D

That is why every hunter must always put time to research about the project,  it will lessen the chance to be scammed by scam bounties. Doing research before joining will be a great defense to bounty scams.

i don't think all of them are scam i agree most of them are but some project which was listed on exchange which coin was dump i think it's also the bounty hunters who make that happen. i observed that when the distribution starts the bounty hunters will sell the tokens no matter what the price is and would result in token dump.

True to that.

They can avoid that to happen if they will choose the campaigns that have guaranteed payment coming from reputable campaign managers. But they are not reading warnings and experiences of others.

In result, they go into campaigns that has random chances and uncertainties.

Easy to say but really hard to get rid of it completely.There are really people who do join directly without minding if they would be get paid in the end or not.This had been suggested after all the years
that people do only join on campaigns that do give out some guaranteed payments or shall we say on weekly basis not on paying up a shitty coin but rather on established coins like btc and some top alts.

As long project do exist into this market specially now that DeFi is on hype now then expect for the market to be flooded by similar projects all over again.
This had been a common problem on when things gets hyped then expect for some follow up or horde of shit ones.

Can this really be stopped? No... Project owners or scammers will really create continuously until they do able to accumulate millions of funds out of those fool investors.Somehow there
are still legit projects where you can put your money on but this will really be like finding a needle on a haystack.

It wouldn't be stopped. But there's a freedom of choice for them to choose not and just do the right thing of not joining them if they have a standard that haven't met by that particular bounty. But it's still their will if they do whichever they think is correct.

The quantity over quality is also playing big in here. They choose to join bounties that they think they're qualified and out of those, there could be one or few of those projects that will become successful and will eventually pay their efforts.

So far, this has happened a lot...
Most likely the team from the project did the big dump to avoid the hunters selling all of their tokens when the prizes were distributed. Now, not having big expectations for a project is much better.

Do you have any prove that these projects dump their very own tokens on exchanges? Because all I can read here are just words, I promote Youengine but the listed exchanges aren't very good, volumes and very low, only uniswap makes sense out of the exchange list but I don't know about P2P

It has happened many times, and bounty hunters were left powerless, other than to hold and hope the price increases one day or just move on.
Many projects team are just questionable and always on the lookout to shift blames, first they will delay or lock distribution instead of working to look for a way to improve on their platform which will then directly or indirectly push up their token price, but they won't do that other than keep shifting excuses while the price keeps dropping, now comes the question. This question is, a team delays bounty distribution and the price drops, who is to blame and who are those selling? First, the people selling are investors who have lose trust in the project, this is because you can't hold a token that keeps dropping while the team are left doing nothing, also the team can also dump theirs and exit scam; and who is to blame, still the team but they won't find issues with that, but rather with bounty which is of very small allocation.
Another point to look at is, most times a team sets a bounty allocation to attract hunters without having the intension to pay, in this case, you will see the team saying a lot of things. This is just few cases where team played hunters, there are many more.

You can do some more things like checking our "Scam Accusations" section, to see if there was any reported scams. We have some scam busters doing this everyday and it is for your benefit only.

It might save your time and prevent getting involved with scam projects that end up hurting your reputation.

But yes these scams never end one can only hope to see some legit projects in the future.

Upcoming projects that will conduct bounty and delays bounty distribution are the scam projects, ive been on new projects and joined on thier bounties, they delay distribution and some of team dump thier coins.

very difficult to distinguish real from scammers I would never just deposit or invest something with a new site and just wait until they have a bit more reputation at least and sometimes it really involves a lot of money and there is too little control due to the anonymity of the bitcoin and websites hosted and the servers

As a bounty hunter you have to make sure that the project you plan to promote has very good use case that will attract many big investors, youengine use case is not catching enough attention because there are too many projects in crypto space that have same use case as youengine (competitors) and again the team did a big mistake by using small exchanges to raise fund

The fact if these bounties are not delaying the rewards but what makes them look like scam was the price. I think that the hunters should have expected it caused by the total distribution totally non-sense compared with the buy order that available in the market.

If the team delay the distribution and then you must have learned to join only in the legit bounty.
jarvis developer needs almost a year to pay the hunters but the hunters were getting paid very well.

Well you cant be expecting the teams to treat their bounty hunters as kings and queens. Obviously the bigger money came from the advisors and thus their interests have to be protected. Just plain old concept of who has the deep pockets.

One of the reasons why many projects have failed is because these advisors will dump their tokens after the lock-in period and the bounty hunters will cry without having a single token at hand. Once the price has been dumped the tokens for the bounty will be sent out and they will never get a chance to make a profit off selling them.

The same story repeats every day and still the bounty hunters never learn. ::)

If is real picture most of the project to be true. Hide and seek game behind us, they promised there will be improvement and more development when token are extremely terrible shape! Every bounty project token price is high first time then big dump and no hunters take benefits. The scams in crypto run very deep, what we can! just be very careful.

But the most important thing is when many people consider that most bounty project are scams then why there still many bounty hunter who promote a new projecf until now?

Don't they feel given up? The bounty hunter must have a good ability to make an analyst against the project because the result will be good. There will not any scam project because bounty hunter know against it.

As for the token is being dumped when bounty hunter get their reward, I don't think that is bad thing to do. Bounty hunter has an authority to decide between sell and hold the token. Because the price getting dumped is not their false, the developer team have to do something to avoid it and they have another way to makr its back to original price even move higher than it.

People does really have that free will on choosing neither if they would engage or not on said project.Yes, we do have our own standards but majority wont really be that too keen on giving out some criterias
before they do join.

Once you do get that experience then you would really be aware on next thing that you should done but due to rampant shit projects then its not surprising that you will still end up on the same
mistake or outcome which you wouldnt really be paid out.

Quantity is much more in prioritize rather than on quality yet as i had mentioned where they do need the maximum exposure thats why limitation of participants wont really be that on their
vocalbulary.

That's now how bounty usually works so it's a risk for the bounty hunters to participate on bounty campaigns. I think you should need a real deep research first before participating to bounty so you would avoid wasting your time and your effort.

I don't think he has prove for that. But if you are investors how come that you buy the price higher then when you know that tokens will be distributed to hunters you will sell you invested tokens to much lower price .

The possible  scenario is one of the team members sell their share or the payment he get for being one of the team like moderator or any other advertiser that they paid earlier .

I as I understand for owner supply it is locked for years so it's not possible for him to sell it if it's locked.

No my friend, you have better ways to improve this. You have talent and you are wasting it and your time by taking part in such projects. :-[

What you can do is improve your posting habits and gradually rank up to higher ranks (for those who are not yet.)

Then apply for bitcoin paying campaigns. Trust me, you will be able to take part in the forum discussions and get paid a decent amount every week as a side earnings. You can invest your time in this and it will pay off. Sadly very few people have taken this advice.

They dont like to be paid up measly with $30-60 max/week and thats why they've decided to go with bounties on where they can possibly earn thousands of dollars
but to know  that those are just possible into those golden days where ICO is still precious and worth for the time but as of todays era then i dont see that light anymore.
Some of them might not able to know about the existence of bitcoin paying signature campaigns which i do agree that this is way more better as an option if you
do really look for something side income.Todays bounty hunting is just purely a waste of time and it isnt really worth for the effort that had been made.

They are still in the bubble I know, just hoping that gradually they will come out of it and understand the grim reality that bitcoin is the only thing that they should buy and hold on to. Not some crazy altcoin talking about changing the entire system and taking over the world. Thats a 13year old kid's dream not the sign of the sane minded entrepreneur.

At one time it was profitable for them and the ICO bubble made them gain some profits for those who sold at the top and didnt hold on to the shitcoins.

But this generated the market for more shitcoins which never crossed the ICO sale price and thus went down.

Bounty pool were allocated 30,000,000 YOUC worth of $3M, according to their IEO price. Bounty reward is simply big, a big number of bounty participants and distribution happening with a short time span, these all things put YOUC a drastic price but at the same time also try to recover.

I joined both of them. Those project seemed shit to me from beginning cause i have found those project with low development. Although yougine promoted for long time & tokensale was continue even till round 4, but both of those project had low liquidity on exchanges.but team can still look at their project & do something if they think they should do. Otherwise no chance for raising again

Sad to hear from you, who happened to join those campaigns. I have seen p2p's performance in the market so I understand what you're talking about. I guess, they have no sufficient funds to provide liquidity for their coin. Unlike, the ltx campaign that I've seen, they paid their participants according to the current market price, which is really good, and they have good liquidity. You can see the difference of how a solid platform treat their promoters. If a project has real backing and good developments going on, you will see it in the market.

I don't think all new coming projects are doing scam but those you mentioned. So many good project like dia data, dego finance, hex are got successful recently ever more that maybe i don't know about. So it isn't fair to blame all new coming project as scam those project that you mentioned, listed on low quality exchanges, continue trading with low volume even with fake bot. Most of investor avoided those project. So it was your mistake, selecting those for promote

I have a follow-up on the problem of the project you mentioned, actually with such a project i think people need to be realistic that they are paranoid by the value of the current project. With a suggested price for the token too high, and this makes a lot of new bounty hunters think it's real what happened to this bounty should give you more experience and find good bounty.

Indeed the project that the OP mentioned is really not good in my opinion, i see they have an IEO plan on p2p and that is the problem that i really do not appreciate in the long term development of the project. It's a pity for those who joined it when the money received is very disappointing. But this is not too strange in this space because there are already many such projects, I think if the project can be developed it will bring great laughter to the hunter.

Youengine isn't a scam project, I don't know what went wrong before the bounty distribution started but the token dumped hard because almost all bounty hunters dump their tokens and after the dump was done YOUC keeps recovering, there is a news of new listing on binance DEX, I expect this to drive YOUC token price back up

You cannot analyze the whole market based on just two projects. It's your misconception.

If you are new to the world of cryptocurrency then this is fine but those who have been working in this market for years know that Bounty Market is a huge market. This market may contain ten percent project scams out of 100 percent.

 But you can't comment on this market in vain. If you look at AirDrop, there are a lot of people who have worked on the AirDrop project of 2000 companies but they have earned only  100$. But if you look at the Bounty project, you can see that a few days ago, those who worked on Diego's Bunty project had a minimum income of  150$. I earned 500$ from Diego's Bounty.
So before commenting on anything, you must know its exact information. If you do not know yourself, then you must know from someone else.

I think Scarcity (https://scarcitydefi.org/) could become a scam.

According to this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295493.0) they are promising 5x staking bonus for everyone buying in the Presale.

Such promises are leading to:

a) Unfair advantage over every user after the presale

or

b) Are cheap attempt to collect some money as quickly as possible

In either case, I will pass.

This is completely Wrong because there are many Scammers we must admit that but still there are few that Still Paying Bounty hunters'
Here clearly that only 2 of them have you mentioned meaning those are the only campaign you joined so don't generalize the whole bounty system because still there is good and legit.
You should have known this for long,This is 2020 mate ,Bounty had already collapse back in 2018 that's why only few now is what we can call legit.

Try to move around there other place that you can generate income,prevent your self from bounty or be ready for more scamming.

Any problem that will be running their IEO on the p2pb2b have almost 100% probability to the scam project. There were bunch of platforms that launched their IEO on p2p and then they are all become the scam project.
p2p is a very well known as the scam exchange site that it's volume is fully manipulated. It's only 1% from the 100% was a real volume and the rest is fake volume.
no buy orders, no users and only bots who traded on p2pb2b

Yes, there are wide number of new projects that are scamming vigorously, all they do is doing presale, if at all, they list on low volume exchange, like exmarket, catex, and all of those scam exchange, I experience this when u was participating in bounties last year until I stopped.
You just have to select one out of 100 bounties to have a successful campaign promoting experience, the funny thing about this is that, those scam project keeps repeating this thing, don't know if the owners keeps creating another while the older fails away.

I'm getting back to this bounty work and when i look back on the bounty thread i see so many new projects, too many bounty ones from shoddy projects and possibly scam. Maybe i will need more time to accurately evaluate that project, in my experience encountering projects is unavoidable and to avoid wasting your work on those projects please Choose for yourself the good BM: bubbalex, Hhampuz and Fatemablabla are also one of the BM i appreciate quite a while because she has delivered quite a good project.

It's not only scarcity but almost all of the scam projects are coming from the defi projects, swaphub, kittiefihgt, yeard global, and many more. Everyone should avoid promoting the defi scam project or even any defi projects as those can become scam projects anytime.
I have created so much awareness about this thing even for the investors too but they are still being scammed by the same project.

I do not believe that the YOUENGINE team somehow deceived their members. Everyone saw that this was a worthwhile project, and many people took part in the bounty campaign of this project, so the payments are small, as everyone rushed to sell their tokens, thereby severely knocking down the price of the token. Tokens have been sent to all participants, so there is no scam here. The fact that many participants expected to receive a reward of $ 5,000 + for the bounty campaign, but received 10 times less, is no longer the fault of the project creators.

The defi hype is still not over so we will be seeing more on this scam list of DeFis. If you browse these defi projects, you will already see which one has real intentions of implementing their objectives. Most of the projects in beta stage, I believe will not develop into operational platform. They will just let users to buy their worthless tokens and disappear once they collected some money.

Indeed, you gotta take your time in researching the campaign/project before participating because more or less if you didn't do it there's a high percentage that you will end up in scam projects and wasting your time. You know what luck is also mattered in choosing a bounty campaign because they might perform a good service in the early stage but after the allocation, there's a lot of problems occur leaving the coin hopeless. And this also the reason why I only barely participated in bounty campaigns. This is just based on my experience maybe yours is different but you must still be wary.

People should face up the reality and look wayback on what happened into those previous years.They would realize that things into their minds wont really be happening in reality.

Same goes into the current hype that is happening with IEO where same beliefs do happen.There are still lots of projects that are trying to accumulate money to greedy noob investors.

We should be careful towards selection so that we wont really be get victimized or do end up on holding some shitcoins.

RIGHT mate. 2018 was the worst year for bounty hunters, 90%  bounty campaign was scam that time, and 5% token that came to my wallet are still zero values. Its very hurtful that i quit bounty hunting. still i check my wallet and make pikachu face :) 

Because the intention was always dubious from the beginning, the aim was to scam and disappear like nothing ever happened, it is very easy for their type to blame it on bounty hunters mean while the real culprit are the project owners, they will make it look like the market is the cause while they are the ones dumping,
The p2p team even went to create another token called 0xgas even that has also dump in price.

Yeah tell me how they expect hunters to be loyal and hold their shitcoins when they are the first to dump on hunters, if the owner of project can so this then why even blame hunters when they do something as well,
Just like what happened with Emporium finance project, they dump even before the project will develop any feet, hunters where left stranded, this is the case.

feels not right to mension that all projects are doing scams , it is true that there is a lot of shit out there but "i talk just for myself" , there are still safe bountyprojects , just do not fall to fast for nice talks and promises and pictures but find real info about the projects you take part in

Well, that does not happen if the teams developing the project in real-time (actual, not just the words) and transparent on all of their developments as well. By that at least we could imagine or thought some possibility what would happen to the project in the near future.

That's off-topic dude, there is no one here talking about "whether hunters are criminals or not".

Easy to say but would really be hard to find one and this is some sort needing some luck for you to choose the best one aside on making an in depth research.

You cant really blame people not to say that all projects are scam because it is actually happening as of this moment that majority of them are just total shit.

You wouldnt know on which one would be real because there are proejcts who do looks legit but still a scam but there are some do looks garbage but a legit one.
This is what makes the situation more harder.

Some projects are scams. But most of the projects are not scammed they are just failed to reach their end product? final target. Because of these reasons token price dumps.

that's wrong. Failed means scam and they can't deliver what they have promised before. ICO is not  a trial error and then developers gone with all of money. If they failed to achieve it and at least they must be transparent with what happened with the funds. As far as I know that if almost all of scam or failed projects were not so transparent to the investors.
that makes the investors being scammed because they know this is not a trial and error game.

You are right, most of the people here will fall for the nice talks and fake promises. A company will do massive allocation to the bounty community in order to raise the funds, but every company will scam at least, till now very few bounties are very successful in the cryptocurrency. So we should always be very careful when choosing any bounty.

thee is no much difference of failing and scamming for the bounty hunters. bounty hunters are always in lose no matter if projects are failed or they scammed. something has to be done to protect the bounty hunters. i saw nowadays management agencies like BountyDetectiveare escrowing bounty tokens with them.
and that's what I will do too if i ever manage bounties in future.

Actually, if the project fails we cant named it as a scam, Coz there may be various reasons.
And about Escrowing bounty reward is a good way to reduce scams before it spread.

Massive allocation in this market pretty much begs the tag of scam project. Most projects which were even close to being successful did a reasonable allocation to bounties and kept small portions to advisors and team so that neither of these groups can coordinate a pump and dump and make the market price drop by huge amounts when listed.

You can be careful but you will still fail because 99% of projects are failures from the start. What these owners do is that they test the waters by going for a funding in this non-regulated market. If it goes well, then they gambled a win but even if they lose, it dont matter to them, they got money and sold you their shit which is worth nothing.

It is becoming a reoccurring scenario, that after bounty ends, the project team will start saying things which weren't agreed on or even giving excuses why the payment will be delayed, some might go as far as re-auditing the spreadsheet just to find excuses on why they will not pay or reduce the reward, and in all these what can be done? Nothing because it is stated in the bounty thread that the team can change the rules at anytime. It is only very few bounties that the team always stick to their own side of the agreement. What surprises everyone is, during the bounty period, there will be no issues from the team but after the bounty the issues surfaces.
Furthermore, I do not know much about those two bounties, but that is what most team do, delay the reward, and when the price reduces badly they pay, in most cases, bounty hunters will hold and expect a good price later on and in some cases, the project becomes abandoned and the reward worthless. 
Nevertheless, there is little to nothing bounty hunters can do, other than researching every bounty thoroughly before participating and also asking the team the right questions if possible to be on the safer side.

that's it. The bounty detective was putting the escrow as the requirement to use its service. I know that there's a project called cyclop finance that didn't pay the hunters at the first round of the campaign and in the second round after it being managed by the BD and BD was escrowing the reward for the hunters.
This is the only way that can be used to protect the hunters. Even the legit project didn't pay the hunters too.

Any of the projects are bogus. However, the majority of programs are not scams; they just struggle to meet their end product's ultimate goal. Token price dumps occur as a result of these factors.