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The Real Situation


We are screwed !

1.How the hell is going to pay for all the covid madness ?
2.2020 was expected to be a bad year (recession without covid) now it' s just 2020 ...
3.Look at videos on youtube of New York ,and you will see how empty it is ...
4.Drought and Floods destroyed crops ( Climate change )
5.Trade war + Brexit
6.Govs are printing money
7.Crazy stock markets ...when in the history of the world did oil ever have negative values ? Only now in 2020
8.Technology is destroying jobs instead of helping
9.No matter how wins elections in USA ...America f..ked up by outsourcing their factories to China ,USA is no longer the Roman Empire ...
10.Prices are doubling worldwide ...in most countries ( inflation )
11.High Tensions in NATO ( Turkey the trojan horse of NATO )
12.Greece , Italy , Spain , UK economy collapse and migrants problem
13.Planet Overpopulation ... 8 billion people
14.To many taxes ...they tell you got to pay like 30% -50% max but in reality you pay like 80% ( Small countries and tax haven countries not included )
15.People say ...yeah no problem businesses can go online ... no big deal ...but how in the world is going to pay for the transportation cost and logistical stuff needed to send the goods ...e-commerce is expensive and it will increase prices even more ...
16.2020 -2021 is election year in most countries ...Govs will spend like crazy just so their parties can win.
17.They did not invent a vaccine between 1900-2020 for coronaviruses ...they knew coronaviruses existed etc ,do you really think that in 1 year they can do what others couldn't do in 100 years ? How about the mutations and so on ... It's going to take a long time before they find the cure ...
18.The world is changing and not in a good way ... i was born in '86 , i seen the 90's,the 00's ,and i remember how it was back then ...sure we got nicer toys this days ,but millennial's will never understand the thing we lost.


And the most important thing,we forgot about God ...just look at the universe . use Aladin Sky Atlas ,Google Sky etc ...look at the symmetry and beauty of the universe ,and you will see Him in all his might you morons.




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"Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand."

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+38-41

All our problems come from the fact humans want to be God.

Well we invented money, so why do we need to pay for it? it's half meant.

This is the worst year that I've lived, it really is.

People outside does not define the state of New York, everything now is running online

Not new. We've been dealing with this for like 10 years already.

Competition these days are higher, no one wants to be low on the seesaw.

Of course they will. LOL

It's negative in value but it is not free. Learn the difference

It's a matter of human application, technology won't work without man's knowledge.

A huge huge mistake made by America in my opinion.

That's how supply and demand works, but government should have regulation on this one.

Well I think the planet is not overpopulated, there is just an imbalance on population with respect to occupying space.

That's the expense of convenience, everything comes with a price. Probably part of new normal.

That's not how it is done, coronaviruses comes in the same family but it has different strains, doctors can't just invent a cure or a vaccine for an unknown disease lmao.

The only thing that is constant aside from the speed of light is the Change. That's how the life really works, you can get used to it but it won't last forever. However, it may last a lifetime.

Too long if i would really react each one of those views but why you cant just sit and dont panic out on the things that you shouldnt really be bothering off.
If thats the thing is currently happening into this millennia or era then theres no way on stopping it unless if all people would cooperate or do decide to make a change.
Each country do has its own leaders which will result into different economic state. Natural resources issues? This isnt something new, we are indeed progressing when
it comes to tech and there would be indeed pro's and con's towards that.

Yeah its saddening reality but do we really have a choice? No, then we do just deal and face it.

Still, not a reason to give up and considered life as worst.

We have to adjust as always. Learn to adapt to what's currently happening.

The world will not end with these problems and speculations. We have to move forward.

This is life, sometimes, life will never run as what we always expect. And all things in our life will be out of our expectation and imagination. ABout what happens today, it is nothing to do because it has been used for certain purposes.

Well, let me answer some of those based on my own answer:

and more numbers related to Covid-19 cases.
You may not need to force about what you can do for this crazy pandemic. Just focus on what you can do for your life and the people around you. At least in the very simple ways that you can afford to pay, re-manage again our business, and also close the losses of every event. Moreover, it also gives very big trouble and impacts on the world of tourism, financial system, and also other services companies. This may lead to make certain countries recession because of this. So, let's open our eyes to see what happen to our countries and life because of the recession

and also about how the government has the power to rule out whatever i the country.
This is what they can, they have power. But, it is a paper, how can it be valuable it has to value? It only has nominally written in the money built not the value exactly. The taxes, strict regulations about crypto, and also other rules may not fit the people in the country. But we can't do nothing there

I am sure that every change will make two, the positive and negative sides. I personally believe that the world has been changing well because it should fit the latest updates and also the newest information

We are fine, everything is going to be ok.

Just hold your bitcoins while the governments print more of their fiat altcoin to pay the bills ;)

@OP, I believe you got too much distressed due to all that happened during this year that you couldn't resist painting it down here but the fact is, Covid-19 actually stopped the death cycle against the number of deaths happening daily due to smoking, drinking alcohol, getting killed by someone either accidentally or intentionally, bomb blasts, terrorism, etc. All these activities were halted during Covid-19 (except a few motherphuckers who intentionally went outside people's home and spit there to spread their covid to others due to jealousy or some personal enmity). Just see it as an opportunity because many stocks have plunged to their new all-time-lows and I believe that if you did save something last year, it's time for you to invest and earn great returns. About food, yeah I know that natural calamities bother us a lot but everything will be alright. :)

We all have problems facing right now but we should not panic and instead focus to become more healthy and focus on solving that problem without making a lot of pressure to yourself. I myself ended into some debts for some reason but I know I can pay all my loans in time, we just need to triple our effort and grab every opportunity to make profit. Hold more cryptocurrency, the good one so you wont be stressed that much, keep fighting mate.

The dead apart from the corona was not seems a count now.The people who was total drunk addict also lost their life.But it was not even counted.Some got covid 19 due to the unfollow of rules and regulations given by the government.Being a citizen of certain country,we should follow the rules guided by their government.The people who had followed are safe still now.

1- Whos going to pay for covid madness? I guess you mean the guy who ate the bat soup ( Kidding)
2- Says who? Here in the US most financial analysts predicted a solid market year. I'd know, it's my career.
3- look at many big citiies- same as here in chicago.
4- now this is a very serious issue, I hear ya
5- this is typical stuff through out the history of civilization
6-Quantitative Easing has been going on for some time
7-Negatives Futures Contracts , not actual oil. You been to any pumps that gave it to you for free? lol
8-false
9-you have no clue what you're talking about here, none. due some research maybe?
10-dumbest thing ive heard in a long time
13-very real issue that people ignorantly ignore
14-communist nations, who pays that much in tax?
15-believe it or not not all businesses are the same, they also hire people to move their items, called the mail. ecommerce is NOT expensive, its the opposite of brick and mortar which is dying. lordy bud
17- you're not a Dr and also once again, speaking out your behind

Lastly, what does "god" have to do with anything? What god? who's god? Have you ever met god? Do you know anyone who has? Is their any proof of god? 

You raise a lot of interesting and important topics but you clearly don't do any research and go off your gut instinct

This made me laugh lmao. You're basically asking scientists to learn how to run before even knowing how to walk, do you know how ridiculous you sound? Why didn't your God send down a sign that the virus was there, and why didn't your God then tell scientists that this and that is the cure? Not that I hate religion or anything, just that putting God on every little argument thinking you sound holy/religious sounds stupid so please stop that.

Wrong, all problems come from the fact that we are humans. Humans have every kind of sin inside them after all, and from that basically stems every little problem we have, from being late to assignment due dates to having an excessive debt to the world.

The thing that piqued my interest is that they did know about Coronavirus a hundred years. If I may recall, coronavirus looks the same as a common cold or flu virus, the reason that they did not create a cure for that is so that we can't die from a superflu. The current virus was an animal mutation and I think that they did not see it coming. No point in blaming the people doing their best to stop the virus, just follow the regulations and prevent the spread. Climate change is inevitable, we humans have just accelerated the process, do not worry because this is a perpetual cycle that has been happening ever since although we will be dead when a complete climate change occurs.

Climate change affects all of these conditions but it is true that it is not possible to completely cure the corona virus until a vaccine is available so far no scientist or physician has been able to figure out the exact method of inventing the vaccine. Everyone is relying on god different countries are following different methods to prevent their own security the real situation is that it is not possible to cure this virus at once it may take two to three years.

And if we admit we are just mere mortals, shall we not face the same problems?

The real situation is that this is a world in which problems, calamities, wars, disasters, illnesses, diseases, suffering, death, and so on and so forth are integral parts. To live is to live with these. There is no other way.

However, many of the problems you mentioned are superficial ones. They're parts and parcels of human civilization, some of which we could get away from.

I think you don't have to panic or have negative thinking about the situations because every government will not let the worst thing happen. They will try their best and do what they can to solve every problem, including the Covid-19, the economy, and other things. We need to support the government by always protect ourselves with everything that will be necessary to do. The situations will not go better if people do not help the government, and they tend to do whatever they want without think twice about the risk. 2020 is a bad year for all countries, but don't forget, we still have a better life in the future, so we need to survive and struggle for our lives. Everything will be okay, and the crisis in all countries will end soon, but we need to do our best to support the government. Together, we can do that ;)

This is important message for all where we need to stay positive and look ahead as a better world. It is tough time we are going through, and it has affected everyone’s life on earth. We are in such a situation that if we continuously just be in a negative state it will affect us with some or other disease or will put u under lot of stress. It’s time to re-think about our future and how can we improve and make it better.

Yes that is also my spirit too. Just we have to adjust and cope up with the situation that is currently happening to the world. We can not ignore it rather than we can take it with care. If your economic conditions are not good enough at this time, just have some patience. Try to do things online and maintain proper rules due to pandemic. Everything will be all right shortly as we can hope.

What I'm pretty sure is that covid 19 will never end anymore, its just a two sided option, whether you leave the earth or you adjust and adapt to the new pandemic system. I know it hurts OP because it might have cause a great downfall on your business or something similar but you have to adapt, don't forget that some made millions of dollars during the period while some lost millions too, but no body actually cares, the leaders are aware of this and so they tamper with the economy and make it favours them at last. You just have focus and try to adapt.

There's a lot of problem all over the world and the pandemic make it worst, we should not panic and instead know how to deal with these problem and better not to stress yourself on things that you cannot control, those on the list are beyond our control especially this pandemic.

The real situation is bad, but our life is still good simply because we are still alive and we still have the chance to correct all our mistakes in life and to remain positive while solving our problems. Seek God's blessing and work through the word of God, everything good will follow and will come to you, just keep on breathing.

Honestly, I felt so exhausted as I read along this thread. I guess, we just have the same age since I was born  in 1986 too. This is indeed a very strange time where life is so uncertain and every material things now seems just nothing when the Lord take back our lives to Him. I believe that all this Chaos is a test given by God, to make people realized how greedy and abusive we are now with our fellow human being and with the nature, the planet that we lived in. We became so cruel that we didnt even care the feelings of others as well as abusing the better place, thinking that we humans are so powerful and intelligent enough. And here comes the revenge to all human deeds. I am so aware that all of this devastating crisis now that we are facing had been clearly written in the Bible, and it did happened. We just need to take charge the consequences that we people had started...I know, all this world's craziness will be over one of this days. We just keep our faith and trust God's plan. His Will be done for us.

It was not expected to be a bad year. Majority of the people took this virus lightly that is why many countries are in shock when this pandemic occured. They did not made it "extra" when the problem has just started. International flights are not yet cancelled until the number of infected bloated which triggered panic across different countries. This gave me thoughts that if government of different countries took this situation seriously from the start, the problem will not be as bad as what we are seeing at this moment.

Other mentioned above by OP, is somewhat the aftermath of this problem. While some are already existing even before this pandemic.

It is not as easy as it may sound. For example, governments ordered civilians to stay indoor and avoid going outside, but due to financial and daily needs, people have no choice but to gamble their life to suffice their needs. There is just this reality wherein no matter how people wanted to be away from danger, 'life' pushes them to do so.

no bro dont talk about that because that is not a positive outlook . our lives can be more healthier and lively if without the covid  . i search the net if how long covid will last and i never get a result that it will last forever but i got a longer year result instead but thats okay atleast experts themselves are also not giving up

what ? haha . there is a planet that said to be a possible habitat for human but that still experimental till now , no choice but people cant go anywhere  . travelling to other country is likely not allowed either because they lock it down thier area to avoid the contagious dieases

this year is really a headache ,you are right if they just prioritize safety over the profits of the airports and the money they  earn from the tourists it would not have been this big problem. They only need to sacrifice it for 2 months or 3 which does not allow different people to enter thier countries especially those  people came from china it would not happen. People can continue thier life as usual.  But its too late now the only option we have is adopt the situation and accept that its really change our life .

All points except one are spot on.


NATO plant president of Turkey can't act against NATO. Other than this, nice post.

However, It can get a lot worse than this.

Business-wise I am also having my worst year and I don't think next year will be better than this.

The World is deteriorating. It's due to sin and lawlessness. We are not meant to live like this. Human greed is destroying the world. Humans live immorally and abuse Earth's resources.
Imagine human cancer cells. They are said to be humans cells breaking good rules and behaving abnormally. The whole body suffers as a result of  the abnormal behavior of the cells. The CREATOR of the body gave the cells rules to follow but they follow the wrong ones and become lawless.
The CREATOR of Heaven and Earth gave humans HIS rules to follow but they choose to follow their own rules. The problems suffer by the world, humans and other creatures is the consequences of us abandoning GOD's Law.

I remember my grandfather (who lived through both world wars) telling me in a sort of cynical manner how we keep complaining how bad shit is, but we never had to worry about getting wiped out by nukes.

Not saying I disagree with you. This was already going to be recession year, and then we had Covid come along as convenient scapegoat. Money printing's staunching the wound but I don't know what happens when the system gets gangrenous.

Feels "good" to have Bitcoin, even if it won't nearly be enough if the shit truly hits the fan, but it'll never feel good if it comes at the expense of everything else.

Unless If you're a bio engineer who just gave up in developing vaccine for the Covid-19, but If you're not then you're not "pretty sure".
How did humans eradicate the black plague and the spanish flu before, without the advance technology that could develop vaccines more faster and accurate like today?
This covid-19 diseases aren't as dangerous as the Sars. What Covid-19 did the most was to destroy the economy.

This year 2020 is the worst so far, many disasters have happened within this year, this pandemic is the very dangerous one because it makes the economy suffered but instead of thinking negative sides, why not being positive, these are all lessons for every one of us, there are still solutions for every problem, this would be a great lesson fo everyone so that in future, things won't happen again like this.

Do not panic mate, things are bow going better, we will come up for this tragedy, just focus on some other worth things.

So Does your feeling emptied now?feeling great after listing all that burden of the world?i see no reason why you need to specified each issue when you are not really affected by them all,and all of a sudden you are putting links about that Bible thing/
lol you seems to be promoting something in your benefits  ;D
Well there are already vaccine but you're right that it is not 100% cure so we are still figuring what's on the other side .

Good thing that you added that we humans have forgotten about God. I see people who keep making some really dumb arguments that there is no God and I laugh about it. Some of them have said that this world came through some kind of explosion, like tell me how an ordinary explosion can create perfect humans, trees, fruits, animals and all sorts of things we see, like there are lots of things to talk, but let’s not go there now. One thing I’m very sure is that there is God and we need to respect him.

If people decides to turn their backs on him (God) and do what they are not supposed to do, He will as well turn his back on them to be punished. This year has been a crazy year so far, lots of things have happened, same thing with 2019 and I thought this year 2020 was going to be better, but instead it became the worst.

The world is acquiring new stability and new form. The fact that transformations take place through crises is normal. You can't be sick and then recover in five minutes. First you need to get medical treatment. And now this is happening - the healing of our planet and everyone living on it. Otherwise it can not be. And I would say that in general, everything happens in a rather sparing mode (in my opinion).

The real situation... this leans towards philosophy! And we can go in that direction and say how the real situation today is just a product of yesterday! For tomorrow, we work today, and if we are not doing anything good/smart/wise today can we expect a better tomorrow? Of course, we can go like that all day long, creating new questions and providing some philosophical answers...sooner or later you will find out that you are spinning in circles!
The real situation is not the same for everyone! Never was! Until society, as whole, don't change the way of thinking and acting, the real situation will continue to be different for all of us!


In the same time some people enjoy their day on the beach with cocktails… thinking about what to do tonight, where to go tomorrow! This invisible enemy (virus) slowed them down, but didn't kill the fun entirely!
It's like you have people who have all, people who have nothing, and many of us in the middle! The problem persist in the fact that many people wish to be better for them, not for all of us!

A critical view with the biblical angle, are these bad situations not suppose to be the signs of the end? At least with the bible account, the things and signs have been clear by this time. We are just pleading and surviving with the grace of God.

World has seen a ton of bad moments and it has always prevailed. All these bad moments will pass and we will be better again and something even bigger will happen as well. If you think this is bad, think of world war 3?

I mean I am not saying it will happen but what if it happens? That means we are talking about dozens of nations with amazing weaponry and bombing and drone bombing and so forth with high tech killing each other. Hell it happens in local wars right now and it kills tons of people, if this tech is ever used in a big world war situation it would leave very few people alive. Even with that humanity will survive, you don’t have to worry.

The Doomsday Clock is closer than ever to midnight.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/23/us/doomsday-clock-trnd/index.html

And this article was created before covid ...now imagine the situation .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doomsday_Clock

Good example! From this situation we all need to workout and keep trying to survive, we just can't think that it will be healed as quick as a glimpse of the eyes.

We  all need to consider that things happened for a reason and it will not be there  if there's no lesson, after this experienced, it brings more knowledge and awareness.

Preparations with how things will go thru is very important, we don't know what will
be there in the next following years, what additional worse things to comes up, better
to be aware and start doing your best.

What a crazy year!?  :o There are no stories I haven’t heard and seen this year; from China having Coronavirus, and the Coronavirus spreading all over the world and becoming a pandemic, and the Australia bushfires, oil price turning negative, and the Nigerian protests, and what’s happening in Congo, and a lot of bad stories that never stops.

This year is like the craziest year so far, damn! The annoying part of it all is that some of these things is what we could have prevented if or leaders had sense, but NO! They don’t have any sense, so these things keep happening.

Oh, man. That is 2020. The best year in my life!

Those two things are tied together--all the money printing and all the stimulus money that's been distributed, combined with interest rates near 0%, has caused the stock market to boom (and bitcoin too).  I'm not sure about the negative oil values, as I don't follow the oil market, but that doesn't even sound possible.

You got that one right.  Trump didn't turn out to be as bad as I thought he'd be--I figured he would be a war monger, much like the two Bush presidents, but he's been relatively peaceful as far as military action goes.  But if the democratic party had a better candidate than Biden, I would gladly vote for him/her.  It's a terrible choice of candidates in 2020, just like 2016 actually.

Ah, the US has been outsourcing labor to China and India and other countries for many years.  That's not a new thing.

That's definitely concerning, although most of the overpopulation is in Asian countries.  It's not as if there isn't enough land on the globe to support more people, but I do agree that there's going to come a tipping point where overpopulation is going to become a serious problem.

Agree with this one x1000.  Where I live, you pay federal income taxes, state income taxes, property taxes (homes/cars), sales tax, capital gains tax....the IRS fucks you in every hole you've got, and if you don't have enough to satisfy their ravenous needs, they will make new holes in you.

They don't make vaccines for every virus, you know.  I think perhaps one reason they haven't made any vaccines against any of the coronaviruses is that none of the strains have been as virulent as the current one.  And I thought there were actually some vaccines made for certain types of coronavirus in animal medicine, though I could be wrong on that.

As to the rest of your points, I don't have enough knowledge of global goings-on to comment on.  But when you say:
I tend to agree with you.  The only question is when the screwing is going to come and how bad of a screwing we're going to get.

These are things that we must feel as humans, difficulties continue to come and go but we must be grateful for that because there are also many good things that happen..

lust, ambition, and human ego that cause us to farther away from God.  but even though we forget Him, He (God) always promises walking with us face all the trials that occur in our life..

happy with you..  :D

Hello again, spy 100!
I recognized you by your another useless and completely detached from reality posts.
Don't you think that accusing people on the Internet of the same sins that you are famous for is too much?
From thread to thread, you try to look the most right person like you the only one who knows the real truth about current events and in general is the best at everything.
But in fact, it turns out that you are not only not the smartest poster of this site - you also do not want to accept defeat. Do they really pay so much in design/layout/web development now that you have so much free time to write all sorts of strange texts on a God-forsaken forum on the Internet?

Go better update your portfolio - at least then someone can contact you with an order, because so far it looks outdated for at least 5 years.

Have a nice day!

Depression is a sickness,go see a doctor before it's to late for you.

You were born in 1986, so you are Millennial too.

2020 isn't the best year, but don't dramatize.

If somebody will follow all your posts from both accounts when he will see that you are more likely to be depressed.
First you complain that "freelancing and Indians killed the opportunity to earn money in web development", then push some incomprehensible rules of life, now you just cry about the fact that everything is very bad in the world.
Maybe the truth instead of shitposting is to understand yourself?

And this is not counting the fact that under each of your posts you can see general dynamics of disagreement with your position. And let's not forget your stalking mania that caused your spy100 account to be banned.

We are coming out gradually for the damage the corona virus has caused to world economy. Even the government are not resting about what the mass is going through in their businesse which is making them to do everything possible to end hardship in the country.many People are still observing the social distances, facemask, and washing of hands to prevent them from the virus which is still spreading all over the country.
I guess with this vaccine the government has finally provide to cure all affected corona virus in the country.

He got mixed up with the generations. Millennials basically were born between 1980's to 2000's. Maybe he meant the generation Z.

@OP the world is changing in a good way. Did you notice? With all the innovations and advanced technology, it will never stop climate change and pandemic crisis. Millennials do understand as they (including me) witnessed the shift from classic to modern technologies.
Last but not the least, millennials do have the best experience of toys and physical sports/games adventures than generation Z.

And I thought OP's post was going to lead somewhere when it begun with the problems the people are facing in these difficult times, but it had to lead to a conclusion about some monotheistic religion.

The world isn't getting any better and we can't control it but that doesn't mean that we forget about God. We're just in the middle of this crisis and a lot more but we still have to look at the brighter side of life. I'm sure that things will still get better soon and we only have to hope for the best. Focusing on the world's problem might only lead you to depression and distress. Try to focus on the good things that are happening around and appreciate each day that you survive. Life is still a blessing during this pandemic.

No we are not. Simply hedge in Bitcoin and Monero. If your wealth is sufficiently hedged you will be 100% fine. You dont care how they will try to solve this problems. Sit back and relax.

It is the truth about e-commerce. You have said it correctly. It's expensive and the real winners are those e-commerce shop owners. But that's what we're getting for the convenience of their shops or services that is offered online. People will now have the idea why Amazon and other e-commerce giants have grown that much over time and earns billions of dollars because it's a trillion-dollar market. Even if I don't want to pay that much for deliveries, I don't have a choice but to shop online as most businesses are closed and only operate online. If they have an option for free delivery, I'm choosing it.

I also feel the current situation is getting worse and more chaotic, this is due to human actions that have damaged nature.
But that doesn't mean we have to give up, we have to keep living life well. Do the best according to the ability of each of us.
And start from yourself to love nature and the environment. Reduce the use of products that can destroy this nature.

Let me say that I mostly agree with you (at least with this point)

That said, the primary reason why no one cared about literally thousands of coronaviruses out there was because they were not so lethal. Regular flu was by far more deadly, and while there are many vaccines for it, people continue to suffer and die from this disease. Why so? Because it is not possible to create a universal vaccine. The good news is that we will inevitably get to know these viruses better now, and one day we will find a cure, whatever it might be (e.g. some genetic modifications ala I Am Legend). Or acquire a strong immunity against the corona on our own, though it may take time (more like a few generations actually)

Lots of people underestimate the resilience and ingenuity of the human species. That is quite a list that the original poster put together, but none of the points seem insurmountable - they are just challenges that need to be overcome. I wouldn't worry about it so much and concentrate on improving the lives of people directly around you. Covid is bad, but right now every single country in the world is suffering, so nobody has much of an economic advantage in this situation.

It was just exaggerated by OP. Problems are unending both in this industry and one's life. From the past decades, numerous problems occured; fall of economies, viruses, wars and the likes. Human race has no choice but to fight in order to survive. It is a matter of adaptattion with regards to the environment. Problems do appear without consent and everyone should be ready for it. Having faith is a good thing to possess but do not alway depend to the creator. Think of something that will save you from the situation. Normalize that problems do take place and it should not be something new. If the world is screwed, then don't allow yourself to be.

It's natural, cause its an order, and people must obey, what do you expect? people lurking around to try and get the virus?


Technology doesn't necessarily destroy jobs tho, technology will always be operated by people, and these people will always be at their job. Also, it is the greediness of the one heading the business who destroys the job, not the technology itself.


this is fun, prices of e-commerce during the pandemic can be controlled by the government, as they can freeze it and take it back to its natural price to eliminate people who takes advantage of the situation. Also, pandemic doesn't mean that people can't go to work, and just do their work at home. With right equipment, knowledge, and guidance about the pandemic, they can be safe even though they are outside working.


These viruses you are talking about are not that dangerous and already controlled as soon as they went viral. Controlling the spread of virus is one of the ways to eliminate the virus. So meaning, the current COVID 19 was not able to be controlled resulting to the spread throughout the world, thus becoming a pandemic. So taking hopes in the vaccine as many researchers and scientist in the world are currently trying to make is not bad. these vaccines that they are trying to make already was in the 3rd-4th stage of clinical trial, so yes, I think they can make it.


The typical blaming others for the worlds issues and problems, and pretending to be the one who is holy and right.

Every disease gets lethal when you are late in finding out the symptoms or getting delayed in finding out the problem and most of the time the death happens when the doctors are not able to identity the disease until it is too late.

We are able to identify the common viruses but there are mutations going on and you cannot acquire a strong immunity just like that just because these viruses mutate and your body is not going to create that kind of immunity and even in I am Legend he did not acquire immunity but he avoided getting infected as far as i remember the movie ;).

Its not so very negative year after all, look at the crypto market. Although most people really suffer during this crisis, what can we do? Lets help them or look for each other, turning negative to positive. Soon it will be okey, but we need to keep going.

Quarantine mostly in different countries started March and ends already few months ago but many are still struggling to adopt the new normal, if we will keep blaming the government, the pandemic, the situations and even the year 2020, it will only get us stuck with no impact or improvement at all even at least for ourselves, we can do still stuffs that can be worthy during this Pandemic just like how many use their skills to create their new online businesses or how others started discovering crypto. Soon everything will have a solution but we need to start from ourselves first to contribute a help for others, don't let ourselves be a additional problem for the existing problems.

The world chaos state is dynamic and it always find a way to adjust, the people find it easily to move on and continue their daily activities. From henceforth, the new world will be speculative until 2021.
If world War 2, Hiroshima and Nagasaki nuclear war couldn't end the world in the past, we will survive this tense pandemic fear that has grip the world to the throat. Most of the countries economy activity are back on track, we can only hope for the best.

My interest remain the next candidate that will win US election by next month.

There are really lots of odds and bad happenings this year 2020 that we have not expected for we have a really positive outlook and perception from 2019 wishing that year 2020 will be a lot more better compared to that year then this situations have happened that surprises all of us which literally comes to us where we are all unprepared for such thing to happen. But we cannot just complain all along and we must just still keep going and do everything we can do to somehow help ourselves surpass and survive those situations. Giving up is not the best option to choose. Just keep on fighting and do your best shot on every things you do. Stop complaining and do the working because that would be the most essential thing to be done.

Everything in this world never goes as we planned; that is why we are unexpectedly experiencing this kind of tragedy this year of 2020. Giving up is really not an option for you to continue to feel pain, suffering, and useless. We should keep moving forward, as long as we can stand up and endure the problem, so we can reach our dreams and survive in every bad situation in our lives.

Problems are infinite and so solutions to it, there are plenty of things that we need to focus on and worked for.

No matter the situation, we should only look for the brighter side and find peace and answer to it. We don't really deserve poverty, we don't deserve famine amidst this crisis. Let's accept the fact that life is so unfair and only rich people can feed themselves during this pandemic but in order to overcome this, we need to stay still, adapt, and adjust depending on the circumstances.

I don't know how true that is but really?

Situation we are in right now is just inevitable though. Resources are not enough but I don't think the earth is over populated, there are still lots of hectares that hasn't have a house on it. I think we all can survive this situation if we just learn how to live as minimalist and learn how to plant some crops within our backyards.


Crypto market is the only that looks good so far.

We find ourselves in these situation because people get greedy, people start spending the money for the future generation, it doesn't start with this administration but a successive failed government policies bring us to this and the most disheartening thing is that this generation seems to have bought into their lies, just look at the rate at which new people graduating now are getting jobs, it is getting low unless you know someone in power that can help fix you into a good job.

There's nothing that bad really going on right now.

Like in the previous years there were deaths from flu and pneumonia, now all of these are signed under covid19.

People were dying every year but once there's a worldwide fear and all news talk about the rising count of coronavirus deaths you start seeing the world in dark colors.

It's all fine, life goes on and the situation will go back to normal. It's not some ebola outbreak that we're dealing with.

There are really people who do really panic that much when they do saw the entire situation without even realizing that we are trying to slowly adapt on whats the new normal
that we are facing now.If we do consider those illness that do kill out human on yearly basis then this current condition we do have is no different.This would be slowly be forgotten
and will really be part of our daily living.There might be difference since people would really need to be keen on getting to crowded place yet vaccine isnt still available yet
but to say that theres nothing to worry yet those problems had been mentioned on OP are global ones.Theres no point if you do think it out on your own
because theres nothing we can do about it.

be optimistic no matter what the situation you are in. this is yet another challenge to humanity. but this will be overcome sooner or later. we are in the age where a lot of sophisticated instruments or equipment that can aid in the fast creation of the vaccine or other medicines related to this disease. yes, a lot of mutations will be expected but i still have faith with science (medicine). theyve come a long way already.

this is just part of human existence. we will encounter a lot more of human challenges. but with the resources that we have these days, scientists that are free to explore whatever they want to study with, not really worried about this situation. we will always rise from this situation. not the end of humanity by any means!

now up to you how you will manage yourself in your current situation. either you will find your ways to survive or just wait for someone to help your situation (which more then likely no one will help as they are also busy tending their situation)

They are over thinking about the situation and I can't blame them to worry about on what will happen on the future since even by now there's no cure has been found. But instead of thinking about it maybe best to see the bright side and adopt the the situation since we need to live with it.

And also there's something we can do about it and that is to follow what the experts tell us on what to do in terms of  this happenings come and how to avoid it.

even though we are silent, this earth will continue to rotate and life will continue. You defined> 18 visible and observable problems, and we just need to know how to solve them. hope to God is not full a solution, but can be a spirit for our souls to remain optimistic.

What's the point in complaining about the current situation, it will make us look desperate. I always look for the positive side of every incident,
the situation that happened this year was bad. But that doesn't mean there is no hope for the future, I see positive things happening to crypto.
Most of the cryptocurrencies are now experiencing price increases, so instead of complaining a lot better focus on analyzing the crypto market.
So you can use cryptocurrency to earn income.

There are really bad things that happened this year but i'd like to stay positive. Thinking of negative thoughts cant help us to overcome the situation we are in now.

Instead of complaining I think we should be thankful that despite of these problem, we are still in good condition and not starving unlike other people struggling to survive.

This shall pass so lets just look forward for another years to come.

OP, you have listed some issues that currently afflict humanity. The truth is sad.
But you have to have a positive attitude because not everything can be solved with a magic wand. It is all up to us to do our best to enforce our rights. If there is something that we must change, we must start with ourselves by doing works for the collective.

why not list all the good stuffs @op ? because everyone on this room are not happy with what you have shown , sorry to say that and i dont want to be mean but i also agree to them  . we all have a problem , i have a big problem but i pretend i havent  .

what makes this thread interesting is that despite of the sadness and stress the op wants to express he still include god at the end of his message .  @op no, not all of us looses faith to god but the faith of people for god have become stronger actually during these times .

Thats too much to take in one reading! Lolz.
Yeah, those are the chaos which we ourselves created in the long run of humanity. If you look closer then you will see they are very interconnected and can not be overcome without one being unoticed.

The money problems, the nature destruction, wars, overpopulation well yeah I see humans written all over it. The next war would be on the water I guess. Scarcity of it will rupture the whole thing in one snap.

There is no real solution to this.

You can not control 8 billion minds at the same time. Everyone has different opinion and they will go in 8 billion different directions. So we have to accept what it is and how it's being run these days.

It is true that many things happened this year that we really did not expect, sadly it was not good and it had a bad effect on all of us. We should not give up on this just keep on thinking positively that we will overcome all of these trials in our lives. No matter what we have to move on, let's learn to look at other good things around us just like we are safe and not infected with the disease is something we will be thankful for.

Maybe it is only His own way of expressing the feeling inside but not in general.
and also try to look at the brighter site mate,because we have no chance in fighting this covid and also some issues.
so better find way to be happy and considerate.
We are now moving forward ,Look at the economy and we can also see in our community now,businesses are opening and works are now happening to come back also.

Many people did worry about the pandemic but that doesn't mean we are weak. We can fight the covid, some may think that this year is bad year but for me it's not what I think it is. I thought that 2020 is a bad year but I still get a chance of earning money for myself and my parents. Be positive.

Seen about the news today that another crazy virus that’s worst than Coronavirus was discovered again in Wuhan, I am just hoping that is not true. Covid19 already caused a lot of madness this year and that’s enough.

Everyone in my country was saying that 2019 was the worst year then, we never knew that 2020 was going to be more than just a crazy year until it arrived. Now a lot of people are praying for this year to pass lol, we are hoping for a better year in 2021.

Although I still think that if not for the Coronavirus, this year wouldn’t have been a lot crazy as it is now, because apart from the virus, I have not seen any much serious thing that took place this year, and we would have stopped all these madness by shutting down our borders earlier and letting China suffer their virus alone.

Its all new situation pandemic, floods, earthquake and many more disaster are coming. The only good way that we can do are we are ready in that situation. Just go in our life we must be ready our self.
Like now the situation of pandemic are getting worse many companies are affected.

Yeah, they say that hindsight is 2020 but who saw this coming?!

Other than that, a great deal of things require time to develop. And what adds insult to injury here is the fact that some changes go completely unnoticed all the way down the road, and then, boom, here comes a quantum shift and you find yourself in an entirely new, sometimes alien world

The increasing number of infected means that this virus is still spreading widely in all countries, especially Asia and Europe, including in my region, every week the government records additional cases of Covid-19 that occur here and they say this will be too long to forget.

2020 is a dark year where many people lose their jobs due to choking on Covid-19 but there is a lot of news that next year it is still not determined that if the community cannot be disciplined with government regulations then this can continue if there is no cooperation between citizens and the government.

It's only China and its neighboring countries that aren't greatly affected by the Covid Crisis. Certainly, the more controlling government is efficient in containing the spread of the virus than the other type of government. Having an obedient citizen due to the government will help prevent the people from going out to infect more.

If more people are still not going to wear a mask and go out to the public without social distancing, the crisis will really take more than years, I watch a prediction was that it will extend up to 2024 before we can contain it all.

On the other hand, it will give a boost to healthcare

Sooner or later, people will find a way to live with this virus even if it won't be possible to eliminate it completely (which seems to be the case). Somehow, we now live with HIV, and given that the amount of damage that the coronovirus causes doesn't take years to pile up, it is rather sooner than later (we simply don't have choice). Personally, I tend to think that 2021 won't be a lot better in terms of economic development because the effects are long-term

1.2 million people died worldwide coz of this covid19 disease and you are saying we are fine? you might be fine as an individual but the world and other people are not fine. a lot of people lost their loved ones. and even a lot more than that lost their jobs and starving for a piece of bread.
and not everyone has Bitcoin to hold. only some people got that opportunity of having Bitcoins.


Is this a good ethic to be happy. enjoy life in a time when everyone else (or most of people) in the world facing living their lives worst time? as said above maybe we are in good condition and not starving, unlike others. but others do. they really need our attention and support. we can't just ignore them and think that we are good. we need to be with those in their hard time.

It's an excruciatingly complex matter

So don't jump to conclusions prematurely. For starters, do you know how many people would die instead of those who died of Covid-19 if it hadn't come about? I mean, road accidents that didn't happen and similar stuff? We don't know that. But what we do know is that the death toll of road traffic crashes is approximately 1.35 million people per year on average. The point is, we should tread lightly here

When it comes to biblical, we can consider this is events as disastrous. The rapture is incoming and elites have been dictated the fate of every people. War, climate changes, famine, diseases or viruses, spread of immoral sins and technology that destroys humanity. All of them are being talked in bible. But whatever it is, let us all be united and share the love even we are all in problematic situation.

This year situatuon is disaster a lot of things happening globally. This is truly the thing that we could do is we must go on with our lives and also let's be thankful to our God creator that we are still fine healthy and not infected with this virus. We should not stress ourselves and we should carry light in this situation.

I think some of the situations you've stated are already happening even before Covid — climate change, inflation, overpopulation. We already knew about that before. It's just that, this year, it brought us more stress because of the pandemic. I mean, it's like our problems were increasing instead of decreasing. And yes, it is exhausting — physically, emotionally, mentally.

But I must say that I'm proud of us human beings. We're still here, we're still fighting, we're still alive. As a saying goes in our country, "As long as there is life, there is hope." We should not let go of that hope. Let's focus on the brighter side of the equation even though life seems like a never ending darkness. We have to adapt, we have to move forward. Better days are coming.

Yes, you are right. Everything that happens now was so stressful and will definitely drained us to think that the end of this crisis is yet to see. Indeed, we should be proud and grateful being fully alive and safe during this strange time. It wasn't so easy to fight and continue moving on with all the losses that we had for almost a year of struggling to survive. It only proves that God is still with us and will never leave as in the midst of pandemic. We just need to be strong and keep our faith, as well as not overthinking about the things that we cannot control, nor have the capability of changing it. Everything happens for a reason. Wether an act of Man, or an Act of God, all this things brought some lessons to humankind and it will be over soonest, I believe. We just be positive always.

You do not need panic about coronavirus every problem there must be a solution for all countries want to get out of this bad situation and most importantly everyone must cooperate to break the spread of this virus until a strong vaccine is found in the near future also the vaccine will soon be found by experts all needed  Time don't panic because if you are too panicked then it will become even worse.

This is not a good year for us due to the global pandemic, many people lost their job, but we have to make efforts to get through this problem.
Nevertheless, we should aware of the current conditions and the state of our country which is prone to crises if the government doesn't manage the financial affairs and monetary policy to strengthen economies and emerging markets. Take care of ourselves and keep striving for life.

Well, there is a simple analogy that environmentalists use and I love it; "humanity is like a virus for earth, right now earth is having a fever and its getting bigger, by the time she has a big enough fever the virus' (us) will die and she will get better" and I think it makes perfect sense.

Overpopulation is not something you can control, what are you going to do tell people to not have children?
You can't do that, it would be against freedom of rights, people should have as many kids as they want because its their own personal decision.

Does it affect the whole world? Of course it does, but no matter how much it affects the world telling someone they can have only 1 kid and second kid is banned would be too harsh. We just need to fix the climate with all the pollution, if we can do that, rest will be easy.

It doesn't actually make any sense

Okay, people are hurting Mother Nature. But our impact is incomparable to global disasters of entirely natural origin like a supervolcano erupting and freezing Earth for enough years to kill 99% of existing species (think Yellowstone). And I'm not even speaking about dangers of an asteroid smashing Earth to pieces. Ironically, in this vein humans can be considered a safety net or insurance for Earth as we won't let that happen even if right now we can't do much. In other words, the price paid is definitely worth it by any prudent investor's measure (read, such rhetoric is typical environmentalist bullshit)

Some government are do everything possible to restore their economy back. More money has been printed to make sure everything is fix to bring the economy back as usual.
It will be great with this strategies the government is trying to put on ground.

 According to analysis everything will start working well.
Covid-19 is a virus that really collapse so many countries business which some are still finding it difficult to go out to do their business because of the lockdown the government has put on ground. Many people are still experiencing social distances and washing of hands not to spread the virus.
Since some country has discovered the vaccine for the covid-19 it will go to be a great solution to the country. With the things the government has put in place show that it will go to be great to the country.

There is no vaccine actually. If it was, it would have been made. Or quite possibly, a vaccine is already made but is not available to public but to only elites. Corona can be cured only through herd immunity, people gotta have to be infected to build passive immunity instead of relying on a hope for vaccine!

The list you made is really exhausting to look at as it depicts the reality we’re facing right now. However, it’s not an excuse to back down and just give up on what life throws at us. This time has been very challenging to most of us, but we can always make way and build an opportunity from unfortunate events.

This year taught the majority to adapt to the sudden changes and be more flexible and not rigid. Regardless the unpleasant circumstances that took place and happening at the moment, life must always go on. Nothing will happen if we’ll just sulk at the corner and watch our world fall apart. We must adapt and go with the current.

Many things are working well in my country since the government demand more money from Central bank, to grow the economy which covid-19 has collapsed over 8 month in the country. Now many people have return back to their work and also many companies are working as usual which is helping the citizens to experience positive change in the country.
Government are still try to make sure they get the original vaccine for the virus that is killing citizens every day by day in the country. Many are in insolation center receiving treatment which is not earn any results for their health, that is still making them to  find it difficult to recover from the covid-19 base on the government have never get the original vaccine to cure the virus.
I think with the great step the government has took concerning this covid-19 show that original vaccine will soon be available for the country.

It seems that there's no herd immunity with the coronavirus

Now it is reported that the immunity fades after about six months as people who had recovered catch the disease again. This is actually a really bad news. As far as I understand it, no vaccine would be of great help since you would then have to be vaccinated every six months or so. I don't particularly believe either that a vaccine is only available to the elites provided it exists in the first place. It simply makes no sense because a free vaccine for all is less risk for everyone, elites included

This is really bad news, there were already many reports of people that got the virus and then got it again at a later time which lead me to believe the period of immunity was too short but 6 months is nothing, are there any studies that show if there is any difference in the intensity of the disease itself when it is gotten for a second time? For example someone that had mild symptoms the first time, is this person still expected to suffer mild symptoms or there is some change during the second time the virus is contracted?

As I recall, the results of scientific studies revealed that just easy symptoms of occurrence of this disease does not allow the body to build strong immunity and it is therefore likely recurrent disease. Well, if a normal stable immunity was not developed the previous time,then in theory, and a strong gain to the body again should not be. Therefore, I believe that in this case, in the coming weather seasons, we should make a big bet on mass vaccination, and then rely on mutations of the coronavirus, which will make it not so dangerous for humans.

Despite your dark view of reality, but you have said the truth in most of the things that you have talked about. There are some people who do not like to know the truth and try to ignore it and try to delude themselves that we live in a beautiful world, but unfortunately, reality is quite the opposite.
What I liked most about your saying in the end is that we have forgotten God, and this is absolutely true. Humans have been led after matter and technology and have forgotten their Creator. For me as a believer in God, I see that all these economic and natural disasters that happen in our world today are due to divine anger as a result of human beings turning away from their Creator, but unfortunately They didn't understand all of these warnings and quickly forget the lessons.

It is too early to tell

Basically, the virus has been around a little over half a year (on a world scale), so we have to wait at least as much until there are enough data to arrive at a reliable conclusion regarding this possibility. But from what I heard, there is not any pronounced tendency, dependency or relationship. In other words, the second contraction can be milder or worse

And this is what you actually must expect given how mutable the virus is. They say that people never contract flu again simply because it is always a different strain of flu. It seems to be the case with the coronavirus as there are many strains of it, and it is impossible to be immune to all of them (apart from quickly losing immunity to a previously contracted one)

indeed in any case we have to believe again. that after all, we are just humans with many weaknesses. man has been blinded by all the luxuries of the world, perhaps as someone who believes in the master, it is true that God is teaching us all lessons. not only on the basis of coincidence or world phenomena, but this is a kind of warning so that we are always aware that someone is in control of everything. Regardless of the current world disasters, there are always things we can learn from.

If I remember this right Pfizer's vax also provides immunity for a short period of time. (less than a year... few months) Which means, people will have to get vaxxed forever.

Another thing that doesn't make sense is, that they are insisting on the vaccines... instead of working on a druglike medication.

I don't know. Something is fishy.

There are simply diseases whose spread is easier to prevent than to treat later using a lot of medicines, medical equipment, and medical personnel. All this will bring and brings a lot of money to pharmaceutical companies, manufacturers of medical equipment, health insurance company, but all this will not be needed in such quantities for mass vaccination of the population. That's why I sometimes wonder if this is the root of the popular conspiracy theories against vaccines and the idea of vaccination itself. By the way, there are big questions about the distribution of the Pfizer vaccine itself. The vaccine itself must be stored at minus 70 degrees Celsius, which raises a lot of questions about creating an infrastructure for storage and distribution.

That your second point, I don’t think people really had the thought that there was going to be a recession until the Covid-19. With the Covid-19 and lockdown that’s when people started believing that once we get out from the lockdown there is going to be a recession.

Where I live a lot of things happened in 2019 and people were saying that they are already tired and praying for 2020, and then we got into 2020 and it seems like it’s even more worst than last year. We thought this year (2020) was going to be better.Well, we both live in different parts of the world, so what I am experiencing wouldn’t be the same for you.

Its not new anymore and talking about that smells fishy because everything is business thats why they do really make that kind of set-up on where people do need to re-vaccine every year instead
on making it as a permanent one so that the cash flow wont be disrupted.

For the talks of real situation then this isnt something new.Its part of the reality then what we can do? There are things which cant really be resolved out which would lead for us to have no choice.

For now theres nothing we can do but to wait up for the cure and also face up the reality on what we are currently experiencing.