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Title: Best steganography software to hide Bitcoin mnemonic/seed?
Post by: Abiky on November 01, 2020, 12:48:48 AM
I'm looking for a top-notch steganography software that is able to hide my Bitcoin mnemonic/seed into an image from prying eyes. If possible, I'd prefer the steganography to be undetectable by forensics. I'm still new to this subject, so I'd appreciate some guidance in this regard.

If you happen to know of a good steganography software that would achieve said purpose, please let me know. I don't mind if the software is free or paid, as long as it gets the job done. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)


Title: Re: Best steganography software to hide Bitcoin mnemonic/seed?
Post by: Nalbo on November 01, 2020, 01:37:28 AM
If it's made from software, a few people and most of the forensics would easily found it out. And if the software goes online, you never how what places your seed would be saved to.
The best thing would be to create a steganography rule yourself. It doesn't have to be an image. You could just devise a text based steganography rule that fits in your mind and apply it to the seeds first. After that you could turn it into qr code or even images using whatever software found online.


Title: Re: Best steganography software to hide Bitcoin mnemonic/seed?
Post by: Kemarit on November 01, 2020, 02:17:53 AM
I'm looking for a top-notch steganography software that is able to hide my Bitcoin mnemonic/seed into an image from prying eyes. If possible, I'd prefer the steganography to be undetectable by forensics. I'm still new to this subject, so I'd appreciate some guidance in this regard.

If you happen to know of a good steganography software that would achieve said purpose, please let me know. I don't mind if the software is free or paid, as long as it gets the job done. Your help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)

I don't think it will get the job done though, hackers can easily break those stenography regardless of free or paid. Even note taking apps and even self destruct notes as posted here, Do not use any note taking apps for recording your crypto keys and password. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285432.0)

Probably the best way is to just write your mnemonic/seed phrase and make a lot of back up or this, Suggestions about the best ways to backup seed phrase (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256197.0).


Title: Re: Best steganography software to hide Bitcoin mnemonic/seed?
Post by: Leviathan.007 on November 01, 2020, 11:07:49 AM
Not a good idea to create such application hide Bitcoin mnemonic. Because this would be not good for the security. Sooner of later hackers will break it even if you save it on an encrypted image, there are many image processors through python scripts and Ai, they will detect the image and do the decryption, easily. Aside from all I said, in the other hand, the most useful advice here is to not to trust any application to hold or encrypt/hide your keys. 


Title: Re: Best steganography software to hide Bitcoin mnemonic/seed?
Post by: mariah.sadio on November 01, 2020, 11:36:22 AM
There are no 100% safe software public soltuion for this. You should use your own code or you can hide this pharse in random file manual


Title: Re: Best steganography software to hide Bitcoin mnemonic/seed?
Post by: Kemarit on November 02, 2020, 12:02:30 AM
I don't know much about steganography, but i would advice you to combine it with encryption (e.g. using encrypted mnemonic/BIP 38) since steganography isn't useful when the method is known publicly.

I don't think it will get the job done though, hackers can easily break those stenography regardless of free or paid. Even note taking apps and even self destruct notes as posted here, Do not use any note taking apps for recording your crypto keys and password. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285432.0)

Note taking apps doesn't use steganography and you need to trust the creator of the apps.

I know, I'm just trying to make a comparison that any apps that you used to manage your mnemonic phrase/seed/privatekey is not safe as criminals are watching those.

Might be better to create your own code so that you are the only one who can break it.


Title: Re: Best steganography software to hide Bitcoin mnemonic/seed?
Post by: bitbollo on November 02, 2020, 09:47:09 AM
create a bip38 private key. adding a new layer of security could protect your bitcoin from buggy codes or any other reverse engineering.
don't just be focused in a software but trying always to have the top safety wallet. I will never trust a third party software for that operation.
Mnemonic seeds are always discouraged since there are already dictionaries loaded even with phrases from movies or songs.


Title: Re: Best steganography software to hide Bitcoin mnemonic/seed?
Post by: Abiky on November 02, 2020, 10:38:36 PM
I don't know much about steganography, but i would advice you to combine it with encryption (e.g. using encrypted mnemonic/BIP 38) since steganography isn't useful when the method is known publicly.

I've figured that there's nothing 100% hackproof. Anything can be hacked no matter how safe it's claimed to be. The only way to secure a seed hidden under an image using a steganography software, would be encrypting it beforehand. I'd use double encryption (encrypting the seed and encrypting it again with another algorithm) just to be safe. The encrypted seed could be hidden underneath "NSFW" images to avoid detection. Nobody will suspect that a "NSFW" image is worth thousands of USD worth of BTC. ;D

Anyhow, thanks for your advice. Until something better comes up in the future, encrypting the seed and hiding it under an image would be the only way to secure my Bitcoin. With how fast technology is advancing, we might be able to "play" with undetectable steganography algorithms sometime in the future. The new steganography software with an undetectable algorithm will prove to be extremely convenient for anyone looking to hide their utmost sensitive information from other third parties (like governments or malicious actors). We're going to see new ways to protect our Bitcoin, as the industry grows over time. Just my opinion :)