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Title: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: yazher on November 03, 2020, 03:15:37 AM
Guys what do you think about this fight both are champions and whoever will win this fight will gonna fight Inoue in he does not want to fight Casimero. Whatever the result will be I'm sure these both boxers will show us entertainment as both of them are know to be knockout artists especially Donaire in his prime.

https://photo.boxingscene.com/uploads/nordine-oubaali_3.jpg


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With Oubaali sidelined, “The Filipino Flash” will instead face former bantamweight world titlist Emmanuel Rodriguez at the Mohegan Sun Arena in Uncasville, Connecticut, but on Dec. 19 rather than the original date of Dec. 12.

https://www.boxingscene.com/oubaali-out-donaire-fight-he-covid-19-says-adviser--153232


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: peter0425 on November 03, 2020, 03:32:40 AM
Guys what do you think about this fight both are champions and whoever will win this fight will gonna fight Inoue in he does not want to fight Casimero. Whatever the result will be I'm sure these both boxers will show us entertainment as both of them are know to be knockout artists especially Donaire in his prime.

https://champinon.info/images/oubaali-vs-donaire.jpg


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On Saturday, December 12 at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, USA Nordine Oubaali will meet Nonito «The Filipino Flash» Donaire for the WBC title in a 12-round bantamweight bout.

https://champinon.info/schedule/oubaali-vs-donaire/
Wow So Nonito will come and fight again?i thought He's going to retire after the last fight and he lose?

Anyway I ama  fan of Nonito but i think He is going slower as years passed by,and with the Speed and power of Inoue?even if he won this against Oubaali still the Next bout will be difficult for Him to win.

But lets see when it comes.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: FFrankie on November 03, 2020, 03:41:19 AM
I don’t think it will take place because of covid 19. Even if it does, I can’t see a crowd being able to watch them and the lack of moral support from screaming fans is going to have a negative affect on the fighters.

AND

It’s currently supposed to be at a casino, there’s no way the casinos are going to be open with the way cases are increasing in the USA



There will be no winner because there will be no fight


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Bttzed03 on November 03, 2020, 04:51:51 AM
I don’t think it will take place because of covid 19. Even if it does, I can’t see a crowd being able to watch them and the lack of moral support from screaming fans is going to have a negative affect on the fighters.


AND

It’s currently supposed to be at a casino, there’s no way the casinos are going to be open with the way cases are increasing in the USA

There will be no winner because there will be no fight
Eh? There have been many ongoing sports from basketball, football, MMA, to boxing during the pandemic. Even if there are limited live audiences, they can still generate money through PPVs. Example - [Boxing]: Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz - Oct 31 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264105.0)
 
Casinos? There are already establishments that reopened months back but with major changes of course.



About the match, let's take a look at the tale of the tape
https://i.ibb.co/fn7m983/Untitled.png

^ Despite just three years in age difference, there's a wide gap in their number of fights. I'll give this to Nonito because of his height, reach, fight experience advantage. If Nordine was like in his 20's, I would have given him the edge.

I'd love to see the odds but it seems none of the popular bitcoin bookies have picked this fight yet.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: bisdak40 on November 03, 2020, 11:13:57 AM
Looking at the tale of the tape, i could say that Nonito Donaire have the advantage of this fight, that may be the reason why persuaded Top Rank to give him this fight.

Inoue, of course is eyeing to fight the winner of this mtch as either of them is very beatable. Though a Donaire fan, i see him on the losing end again in the rematch as Inoue already figured out how to handle the Filipino Flash.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: pilosopotasyo on November 03, 2020, 11:52:01 AM
After Donaire's performance against Inoue I have strong faith that he can win this fight against Oubaali, Oubaali is the one who beat Inoue's younger brother to win the title, there was no slowdown and weakening on Donaire's power and he is still a very top fighter at his age, he can take Oubaali's power because he is not powerful like Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Reatim on November 03, 2020, 11:58:59 AM
Looking at the tale of the tape, i could say that Nonito Donaire have the advantage of this fight, that may be the reason why persuaded Top Rank to give him this fight.
But is this the Boxer who defeat Inoue?(am not sure of this one)and also having 0 loss meaning this is a Great boxer also so with that Donaire is facing a hard fight here,Oubaali has 17 Knockouts with good reach and strong stamina,with Speed .This will be one of the toughest fight this year from Our Filipino fighters.
Inoue, of course is eyeing to fight the winner of this mtch as either of them is very beatable. Though a Donaire fan, i see him on the losing end again in the rematch as Inoue already figured out how to handle the Filipino Flash.
Donaire lose to inoue while inoue lose to Oubaali this is a good trilogy fight i guess,because the winner will face Inoue again for the Second time.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Assface16678 on November 03, 2020, 12:00:55 PM
Donaire is more experienced for sure while Oubaali haven't experience defeat. Analyzing their records would seem to be misleading with regards to the possible outcome because there is a huge gap between the number of their fights and overall statistics. When it comes to the size, Donaire has the advantage, and we cannot belittle his agility as a fighter which has been proven already. On the other side, it did not go well on his previous fight which could also be a factor while Oubaali is on a streak which could be an advantage. This would be exciting to watch but I guess I'll go with who is more experienced.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: rhomelmabini on November 03, 2020, 12:01:06 PM
Looking at the tale of the tape, i could say that Nonito Donaire have the advantage of this fight, that may be the reason why persuaded Top Rank to give him this fight.
Not that huge on the age gap and if experience and knockouts will be the basis Donaire is still the dominant one but considering the overall percentage of KOs of this Ouballi this I think is a lethal fighter but as what @Bttzed03 pointed out it will be dangerous if he's at his 20's.

I'd love to see the odds but it seems none of the popular bitcoin bookies have picked this fight yet.
Was it just announced recently? Maybe tomorrow we will see it, just keep eyeing on the bookies, it will take time but we already know whose side will be favoring the odds here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: smyslov on November 03, 2020, 12:18:02 PM
Donaire still has what it takes to beat Oubaali, so far Donaire is the only fighter I have seen to hurt and last the distance against Inoue, so I'm 100% sure that he can still box and take the crown on Oubaali.
Oubaali is an aggressor type of boxer because he is small and he needs to get inside but this is the kind of fighter Donaire loves to fight, he beats a lot of fighters who are small and love to go toe to toe, I'm sure Donaire will use his long reach and good lateral movements and ring generalship to beat Oubaali.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Kelvinid on November 03, 2020, 12:37:37 PM
The number of fights, KO's, experience, and reach. All these aspects brought Nonito to have a higher chance to take the belt. Nonito becomes the favorite boxer between the two but if even he wins and fights back again against Inoue, I'd rather have to choose Inoue instead.

Both of them have impressive fight records, a better choice for Oubaali to fight Nonito who also eager to win the fight and take revenge on Inoue. This fight will give more benefits to Oubaali as additional experience but as a usual thing, he shouldn't have to expect about winning because we know and he knows also what Nonito can do inside the ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: robelneo on November 03, 2020, 01:59:20 PM
I consider this fight a ticket for Donaire for another title in his belt and going into the limelight again, we all know that Donaire is the only fighter who exposes Inoue's weakness and the only fighter who's hurt him, Donaire still has that killer sting his left hook can still knock anybody out, Oubaali is good on his fight with Inoue's brother, but experience, power, and ring generalship I'll go for Donaire.
I hope Donaire train hard in this fight just like he trained in his fight against Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Bttzed03 on November 03, 2020, 02:07:37 PM
I'd love to see the odds but it seems none of the popular bitcoin bookies have picked this fight yet.
Was it just announced recently? Maybe tomorrow we will see it, just keep eyeing on the bookies, it will take time but we already know whose side will be favoring the odds here.
Nope, doesn't look like it. I've seen news articles announcing the bout as early as February this year but with dates to be determined. Other articles written in July had already a specific date for the bout though.

This fight might not be as popular as other title fights but it's still a title fight. The odds should have been up by now. All I can see is the Anthony Joshua vs. Pulev Kubrat odds scheduled on the same day.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Debonaire217 on November 03, 2020, 02:32:39 PM
Nonito Donaire is quite being the next Pacquiao of the Philippines, he also dominated his previous fight with Nordine but who are we to judge already? There's always room for improvement for Nordine to take revenge against Nonito, and this tension is what makes this match exciting.

If I were to place a for this match, I will consider betting for Nonito. Not just a support for the country, but I see his skill way faster and better than Nordine, with the performance he is showing, it's a big sign for another win.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: CODE200 on November 03, 2020, 04:43:44 PM
Nonito Donaire is quite being the next Pacquiao of the Philippines, he also dominated his previous fight with Nordine but who are we to judge already? There's always room for improvement for Nordine to take revenge against Nonito, and this tension is what makes this match exciting.

If I were to place a for this match, I will consider betting for Nonito. Not just a support for the country, but I see his skill way faster and better than Nordine, with the performance he is showing, it's a big sign for another win.
Actually, Nonito lost to Inoue which was his recent fight unlike Oubaali which is still undefeated so things might be sketchy at this point. A loss of the recent fight will be also a struggle because there is a tendency for him to doubt himself in his next fight. But that depends on the spirit of a fighter perhaps in this case. As what is believed by many people, downfalls could also be a strength on your future battles. Odds are in both of them so things will be cleared once this fight begins.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: dunfida on November 03, 2020, 07:51:47 PM
I don’t think it will take place because of covid 19. Even if it does, I can’t see a crowd being able to watch them and the lack of moral support from screaming fans is going to have a negative affect on the fighters.


AND

It’s currently supposed to be at a casino, there’s no way the casinos are going to be open with the way cases are increasing in the USA

There will be no winner because there will be no fight
Eh? There have been many ongoing sports from basketball, football, MMA, to boxing during the pandemic. Even if there are limited live audiences, they can still generate money through PPVs. Example - [Boxing]: Gervonta Davis vs Leo Santa Cruz - Oct 31 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264105.0)
 
Casinos? There are already establishments that reopened months back but with major changes of course.



About the match, let's take a look at the tale of the tape

^ Despite just three years in age difference, there's a wide gap in their number of fights. I'll give this to Nonito because of his height, reach, fight experience advantage. If Nordine was like in his 20's, I would have given him the edge.

I'd love to see the odds but it seems none of the popular bitcoin bookies have picked this fight yet.
Nonito shouldnt still be too confident into this fight yet if we do base up on KO percentage then we can say that Nordine is quite a heavy puncher but it wont be surprising
that Donaire can withstand those blows but we know that there would always be a lucky punch.So its important not to let your guard down.If the outcome of this fight
will next on the line with Inoue then Donaire will strive for the spot and would have some revenge with the kid that do able to beat him down in the past.
So i dont think that Donaire would just let that opportunity to slip.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 03, 2020, 09:24:49 PM
Nonito Donaire is quite being the next Pacquiao of the Philippines, he also dominated his previous fight with Nordine but who are we to judge already? There's always room for improvement for Nordine to take revenge against Nonito, and this tension is what makes this match exciting.

If I were to place a for this match, I will consider betting for Nonito. Not just a support for the country, but I see his skill way faster and better than Nordine, with the performance he is showing, it's a big sign for another win.
When it comes to experience and technicality when it comes to their fighting style then theres no doubt that i will surely bet with Donaire.

Also he had the height and reach advantage against to his opponent plus his good fast and sharp counterpunching ability then i dont see any reason for him
to be beaten up by Nordine.

Also, i dont consider this boxer to be next in line with Pacquiao in any way.
Donaire will strive for the spot and would have some revenge with the kid that do able to beat him down in the past.
So i dont think that Donaire would just let that opportunity to slip.
I agree on this one where he would have really the way on making some comeback on possible next fight if donaire will win against Nordine.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on November 03, 2020, 09:35:24 PM
Donaire has been counted out by experts for a while now. His best years might be past him but he is still able to compete at the top level. Size and experience will be in Donaire's favor. We have not seen enough of Oubaali against high level fighters but as the defending champion and younger fighter I think he will be considered the favorite by most people.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Baofeng on November 03, 2020, 09:37:21 PM
Just for the record, Oubaali beat Naoya's younger brother Takuma in the undercard of Inoue vs Donaire for the WBSS Finals. And perhaps this is the reason why Naoya wanted to fake the winner of this fight, and it's a win-win situation for him, if Oubaali then he can take revenge for his brother's lost, or if Donaire win, he already has the blueprint to beat him.

For the Oubaali vs Donaire though, Oubaali is very aggressive, perhaps the likes of Omar Narvaez or Montiel, who Nonito defeated convincingly, also Oubaali is south paw, and Donaire loves to fight south paw because he is a good counter puncher, I'm expecting to see more of his counter left hook. So I would still say that Donaire can win here either by KO/TKO, but he needs to train hard and not gas out in the latter to championship rounds as Oubaali could last the full distance.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: chaser15 on November 03, 2020, 09:44:36 PM
..we all know that Donaire is the only fighter who exposes Inoue's weakness and the only fighter who's hurt him,

And Donaire is also the toughest opponent that Inoue fight on his career as of now. The first boxer that gives him a cut on his face and sent him to hospital after the fight although he won.

I'm not buying yet the speculation that Donaire is now slow. And before fighting Inoue in the finals, let's take note that Donaire climb the ladder by beating premiere boxers on the WBSS.

Donaire can handle Oubaali and if ever he won, the final fight with Inoue would be nice although as I said before, during their first match, I see Inoue will still dominate the fight.

I don’t think it will take place because of covid 19. Even if it does, I can’t see a crowd being able to watch them and the lack of moral support from screaming fans is going to have a negative affect on the fighters.

New here to Gambling Discussion lol.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Jating on November 03, 2020, 10:00:34 PM
Donaire has been counted out by experts for a while now. His best years might be past him but he is still able to compete at the top level. Size and experience will be in Donaire's favor. We have not seen enough of Oubaali against high level fighters but as the defending champion and younger fighter I think he will be considered the favorite by most people.

I don't think that Nonito Donaire is way past his prime, he can still punch and has fought the best in the WBSS tournament. Donaire has fought a lot of fighters with Oubaali type and built before and he had successes against them. It's good that Oubaali will be the favourite here, would be very attractive to beat for Nonito.

I still have the Filipino Flash by UD or if by chance, can score a knock out, as he still have some power, specially that signature left hook of Nonito. And one advantage is that he is the taller guy here so he can see when Oubaali starts to charge and be ready with the counter.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: matchi2011 on November 03, 2020, 10:47:20 PM
After Donaire's performance against Inoue I have strong faith that he can win this fight against Oubaali, Oubaali is the one who beat Inoue's younger brother to win the title, there was no slowdown and weakening on Donaire's power and he is still a very top fighter at his age, he can take Oubaali's power because he is not powerful like Inoue.

Maybe he's age really affects his K.O capabilities but he still have everything, I saw also that fight against Inoue he still wanted to show his skills but Inoue just accepting the punch and ignoring it.

I'll go for Doniare as I believe that this man already trained back unlike when he fight Inoue where he missed long time inside the ring before deciding to comeback and fight Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Lanatsa on November 03, 2020, 10:54:29 PM
After Donaire's performance against Inoue I have strong faith that he can win this fight against Oubaali, Oubaali is the one who beat Inoue's younger brother to win the title, there was no slowdown and weakening on Donaire's power and he is still a very top fighter at his age, he can take Oubaali's power because he is not powerful like Inoue.

Maybe he's age really affects his K.O capabilities but he still have everything, I saw also that fight against Inoue he still wanted to show his skills but Inoue just accepting the punch and ignoring it.

I'll go for Doniare as I believe that this man already trained back unlike when he fight Inoue where he missed long time inside the ring before deciding to comeback and fight Inoue.
Neither he trained not that active before that Inoue fight or he had, there are no footages nor news about on what he's been doing that's why its really wrong to presume out that
he aint still making his body in good shape or doesn't really train at all.Its just a lame excuse to tell.

Nonito Donaire isn't still old and do still have the fire power even though his speed isn't really just the same on his prime where you would really be amazed with
good counter attacks that had been made which do really knocked out lots of opponents that he had.

My bet surely goes for Donaire and I don't still have doubts about his capability.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: goinmerry on November 03, 2020, 11:16:18 PM
I don't think that Nonito Donaire is way past his prime, he can still punch and has fought the best in the WBSS tournament. Donaire has fought a lot of fighters with Oubaali type and built before and he had successes against them. It's good that Oubaali will be the favourite here, would be very attractive to beat for Nonito.

His performance in WBSS is impressive. Not showing any signs of that he is way past his prime. He even gives the crowd favorite Inoue a hard fight in the final match. The fight against Oubaali will be another ticket for his rank-up. But he must not take easy on this fighter. Oubaali has a notable fight too.

Nonito is still in his shape as long as he will stay around the bantamweight class. He can handle all fighters here fair and square. But higher than that, it's a big no.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Kemarit on November 04, 2020, 12:39:46 AM
I don't think that Nonito Donaire is way past his prime, he can still punch and has fought the best in the WBSS tournament. Donaire has fought a lot of fighters with Oubaali type and built before and he had successes against them. It's good that Oubaali will be the favourite here, would be very attractive to beat for Nonito.

His performance in WBSS is impressive. Not showing any signs of that he is way past his prime. He even gives the crowd favorite Inoue a hard fight in the final match. The fight against Oubaali will be another ticket for his rank-up. But he must not take easy on this fighter. Oubaali has a notable fight too.

Nonito is still in his shape as long as he will stay around the bantamweight class. He can handle all fighters here fair and square. But higher than that, it's a big no.

I think this is a perfect fight for Donaire, as he can showcase his wares against a tough fighter in Oubaali. As for the betting favorites, it will be close, I don't think that Oubaali will be the outstanding favorites as Donaire even though has age already, has still some pop on his punch.

Yes, Nonito should be in 110% in perfect shape to be able to beat Oubaali. He did try to go up in weight, but he was knockout by Nicholas Walters, and as he age, he should be fighting in this division and could beat anyone maybe except Inoue.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Johnyz on November 04, 2020, 01:12:58 AM
Nonito Donaire will surely bounce back this time and this will be an exciting match again, hopefully he can bring proud to Philippines again just like many boxer. I'll go for Nonito on this match, he's eager to win the title again after falling short on his last fight. Well, Nordine is not an easy opponent after all so Nonito must do everything and train harder, he's not old yet so I'm sure he can give a great fight again.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: btc78 on November 04, 2020, 01:24:32 AM
Nonito Donaire will surely bounce back this time and this will be an exciting match again, hopefully he can bring proud to Philippines again just like many boxer. I'll go for Nonito on this match, he's eager to win the title again after falling short on his last fight. Well, Nordine is not an easy opponent after all so Nonito must do everything and train harder, he's not old yet so I'm sure he can give a great fight again.
Sorry to interrupt your prediction but I don't think there is an assurance about Nonito Donaire Winning this Bout.
Nordine Oubaali is a tough Boxer with no loss and all Knockout wins,in this we can see how hard Nonito can win this fight.
and upon checking the recent fight of Oubaali i found out that He once Beat the famous and Inoue bringing Him best in this division.
But of course Boxing is sometimes with luck,If you Hit the opponent in perfect timing and combination then the chance of winning is there.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: kotajikikox on November 04, 2020, 02:05:09 AM
Guys what do you think about this fight both are champions and whoever will win this fight will gonna fight Inoue in he does not want to fight Casimero.
I think this will come for Oubaali,Donaire is not like what he use to be in His younger age,Now He is slower and Punches is not that powerful like in the past.
So i think He will be defeated in this one again.
Whatever the result will be I'm sure these both boxers will show us entertainment as both of them are know to be knockout artists especially Donaire in his prime.
Well If Nordine wins this Fight then He will also beat Inoue as he did this recently .
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https://champinon.info/images/oubaali-vs-donaire.jpg


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On Saturday, December 12 at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, USA Nordine Oubaali will meet Nonito «The Filipino Flash» Donaire for the WBC title in a 12-round bantamweight bout.

https://champinon.info/schedule/oubaali-vs-donaire/
Goodluck to Nonito Hope He will get through this strong fighter.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Darker45 on November 04, 2020, 02:59:24 AM
Looking at the tale of the tape, i could say that Nonito Donaire have the advantage of this fight, that may be the reason why persuaded Top Rank to give him this fight.
But is this the Boxer who defeat Inoue?(am not sure of this one)and also having 0 loss meaning this is a Great boxer also so with that Donaire is facing a hard fight here,Oubaali has 17 Knockouts with good reach and strong stamina,with Speed .This will be one of the toughest fight this year from Our Filipino fighters.
Inoue, of course is eyeing to fight the winner of this mtch as either of them is very beatable. Though a Donaire fan, i see him on the losing end again in the rematch as Inoue already figured out how to handle the Filipino Flash.
Donaire lose to inoue while inoue lose to Oubaali this is a good trilogy fight i guess,because the winner will face Inoue again for the Second time.

There is no trilogy here. Inoue is undefeated. I'm referring to Naoya. Oubaali and Naoya didn't face each other inside the ring. It was Takuma Inoue, the younger brother of Naoya, who had a match against Oubaali, in which Oubaali won by UD. Which means Oubaali does not have 17 KOs in his record because he's only got 17 fights in total. He only has 12 wins by KO.

Anyway, I am for Oubaali here. Nonito has lost much of his power and speed already.

Nonito Donaire is quite being the next Pacquiao of the Philippines...

That's more than a decade ago. And Nonito fell short of the expectation.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: ice098 on November 04, 2020, 03:46:40 AM
Nonito Donaire is quite being the next Pacquiao of the Philippines, he also dominated his previous fight with Nordine but who are we to judge already? There's always room for improvement for Nordine to take revenge against Nonito, and this tension is what makes this match exciting.

If I were to place a for this match, I will consider betting for Nonito. Not just a support for the country, but I see his skill way faster and better than Nordine, with the performance he is showing, it's a big sign for another win.

Both were good fighter and will surely did their best during the fight at the ring. Both were physically fit and has a high potential for the game to be amazing game to watch for. But we have our own bet about this game so me either i'll quick choose Nonito Donaire to place my bet. Well im not that quiet lucky bettor but at this point i have this gut feeling that i may win this bet of mine with Nonito.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: yazher on November 04, 2020, 04:13:06 AM
Nonito Donaire will surely bounce back this time and this will be an exciting match again, hopefully he can bring proud to Philippines again just like many boxer. I'll go for Nonito on this match, he's eager to win the title again after falling short on his last fight. Well, Nordine is not an easy opponent after all so Nonito must do everything and train harder, he's not old yet so I'm sure he can give a great fight again.

If he does so, then I think he will have a chance to get a re-match with Inoue and when that happened, he is not going to be like he was in their first fight or else he will go down like morales when he fought Pacquaio in their 3rd fight. He needs to focus on his speed and power because Inoue will likely over speed him with that right hook. Also, before that, he needs to get through with this storm because Oubaali is not like his past opponents. If he brings some sort of new technique in the ring the fight will not reach the 12 rounds.

https://images.gmanews.tv/webpics/2018/11/640_donaire_2018_11_04_10_22_15.jpg


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 04, 2020, 04:38:36 AM
Guys what do you think about this fight both are champions and whoever will win this fight will gonna fight Inoue in he does not want to fight Casimero. Whatever the result will be I'm sure these both boxers will show us entertainment as both of them are know to be knockout artists especially Donaire in his prime.

https://champinon.info/images/oubaali-vs-donaire.jpg


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On Saturday, December 12 at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Uncasville, USA Nordine Oubaali will meet Nonito «The Filipino Flash» Donaire for the WBC title in a 12-round bantamweight bout.

https://champinon.info/schedule/oubaali-vs-donaire/
Our Kababayan will Win on this for sure,With his experience and stamina?no wonder this will end of Him winning the game.

And will Fight Inoue again but this time with revenge and more dedication.

But of course Nordine is one great boxer also,lets see what it takes to win the battle.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 04, 2020, 06:34:50 AM
I thought Nonito already retired about the Inoue fight, he was lucky that his been given another opportunity to crack Inoue again if he will win against Oubaali. I think this is enough motivation for him and prepare harder again, he still has some power in this weight division although it will be a big challenge to fight another young guy because stamina wise he is at a disadvantage. But if he can get past Oubaali, then he has the experience to crack the enigma of Inoue as he fought a very close fight and almost win. He even broke Inoue's orbital bone, if this happens early in the fight, Inoue could have lost against him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Botnake on November 04, 2020, 06:43:19 AM
This is a great fight for Nonito Donaire, his opponent is younger than him but not too young like Inoue.

Oubaali is 34 years old while Donaire is 37 years old.
This is the type of fight where Donaire likes to, because he can use his height and reach advantage.

https://sportometer.net/boxing/nonito-donaire-vs-nordine-oubaali---115-116



As of now, there's no betting odds for this fight yet, hopefully soon it will be available.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Ryker1 on November 04, 2020, 04:55:00 PM
[snip]
As of now, there's no betting odds for this fight yet, hopefully soon it will be available.
Well, for sure there is.
Based on the tale of the tape, -- Donaire has an edge on this fight knowing of his loss with Inoue this upcoming fight is different, and rest assure Donaire right now is more eager to redeem himself and have a rematch with him. We can't underestimate Oubaali because of what he has also shown us as he defeated Takuma Inoue by a unanimous decision, but fighting against Donaire I really doubt that he will be able to win in this game. If I will be placing a bet in this fight I will still put my wager with Donaire for he has proven himself in this sport though Oubaali has shown excellence as well in comparison with Donaire I can still say he is still young and unripe only.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Fredomago on November 04, 2020, 05:37:27 PM
I thought Nonito already retired about the Inoue fight, he was lucky that his been given another opportunity to crack Inoue again if he will win against Oubaali.
I also thought after that fight with Inoue he's already done and willing to rest and live a normal life away from the ring. But it's good to see him back and ready to fight knowing his capabilities when he still on he's prime.

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I think this is enough motivation for him and prepare harder again, he still has some power in this weight division although it will be a big challenge to fight another young guy because stamina wise he is at a disadvantage.
well, for fighters / champ like him, there's always a desire to take the shot.  He just need to win over Oubaali and if after that both camps agree for the said rematch that will be an interesting fight for sure.

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But if he can get past Oubaali, then he has the experience to crack the enigma of Inoue as he fought a very close fight and almost win. He even broke Inoue's orbital bone, if this happens early in the fight, Inoue could have lost against him.
I can agree to that. But let see if what fate will be there for Donaire, for now better to enjoy watching this incoming fight.



Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Baofeng on November 14, 2020, 09:42:12 PM
Update on this fight, Oubaalii is out, Emmanuel Rodriguez.

And what happens to Oubaalii? positive for Covid-19,

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Nordine Oubaali has dropped out of a bantamweight world title defense against mandatory challenger and four-division champion Nonito Donaire because he is ill with Covid-19, not because he had issues securing a visa to travel from his native France to the United States.

BoxingScene.com reported Thursday that visa issues caused Oubaali to withdraw from the Donaire fight, but contracting COVID-19 has prevented him from training recently.

“Oubaali is positive for Covid-19. That is why he is out of the fight. It has nothing to do with his visa,” Bob Yalen, the CEO of Oubaali adviser MTK Global, told BoxingScene on Friday. “This is strictly for the health and safety of the boxer. He has the virus and he has not been able to train effectively for the past two weeks. Nordine was really excited about the fight. He was all fired up for the fight.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/oubaali-out-donaire-fight-he-covid-19-says-adviser--153232

I guess the OP needs to update the thread will Rodriguez vs Donaire now. No need to create a separate thread though, it's good enough for boxing fans to see Donaire fight another boxer and then continue with the discussion.  :) fight also reset to Dec. 19.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 14, 2020, 09:59:00 PM
So another boxer is down with the virus, at least they have find a replacement on Rodriguez which is also a tougher match for Donaire since we all know that Donaire is slowly ageing already. And Rodriguez' only lost came from the hands of Inoue. Looking at his boxrec here: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887, seems a decent fighter. But I think with Donaire's experience, he can beat Rodriguez by decision or by another highlight knockout, his left hook.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Twinkledoe on November 14, 2020, 11:16:55 PM
So another boxer is down with the virus, at least they have find a replacement on Rodriguez which is also a tougher match for Donaire since we all know that Donaire is slowly ageing already. And Rodriguez' only lost came from the hands of Inoue. Looking at his boxrec here: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887, seems a decent fighter. But I think with Donaire's experience, he can beat Rodriguez by decision or by another highlight knockout, his left hook.

The odds will favour Donaire here, I guess. And let's hope, no one will contract the virus just before the fight. Seems that sportsbookies haven't picked this match yet. This will be the comeback of Donaire if he will win this match.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: stadus on November 14, 2020, 11:28:42 PM
So another boxer is down with the virus, at least they have find a replacement on Rodriguez which is also a tougher match for Donaire since we all know that Donaire is slowly ageing already. And Rodriguez' only lost came from the hands of Inoue. Looking at his boxrec here: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887, seems a decent fighter. But I think with Donaire's experience, he can beat Rodriguez by decision or by another highlight knockout, his left hook.

The odds will favour Donaire here, I guess. And let's hope, no one will contract the virus just before the fight. Seems that sportsbookies haven't picked this match yet.

I would also go with Donaire, it's a kind of fight that Donaire like since he has the reach advantage and the height, I never saw a small fighter beat Donaire in his division now. Betting odds will not be available until first week before the fight will happen, that's normal for a non popular bout I guess.

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This will be the comeback of Donaire if he will win this match.
Donaire loss to Inoue but he was an underdog of that fight, here, I think he will be the favorite.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Jating on November 14, 2020, 11:39:12 PM
Highlights of Emmanuel "Manny" Rodriguez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMkCiye54Sk

Good puncher power, decent hand speed, aggressive and come forward fighter.

So it this is a tailor made fight for Donaire, as we all know that he can adapt to his opponent. In this case he will be countering with his left hook and then overhand right and I think Donaire can hold his chin against Rodriguez

https://i.imgur.com/TjUgQtu.png

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Viscore on November 14, 2020, 11:44:43 PM
So another boxer is down with the virus, at least they have find a replacement on Rodriguez which is also a tougher match for Donaire since we all know that Donaire is slowly ageing already. And Rodriguez' only lost came from the hands of Inoue. Looking at his boxrec here: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887, seems a decent fighter. But I think with Donaire's experience, he can beat Rodriguez by decision or by another highlight knockout, his left hook.

The odds will favour Donaire here, I guess. And let's hope, no one will contract the virus just before the fight. Seems that sportsbookies haven't picked this match yet. This will be the comeback of Donaire if he will win this match.
Yeah, Donaire has the reach advantage and also experience base, a reason for him to likely win this fight. But can't just ignore that his opponent is also a champion and tough guy, he'll be not overly confident that he won this match instead, to keep his mind think that this person can beat him.

I also put a bet on Donaire but if ever he will face again to Inoue, I'm not sure but probably he loses again.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: stadus on November 14, 2020, 11:47:33 PM
Highlights of Emmanuel "Manny" Rodriguez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMkCiye54Sk

Good puncher power, decent hand speed, aggressive and come forward fighter.

So it this is a tailor made fight for Donaire, as we all know that he can adapt to his opponent. In this case he will be countering with his left hook and then overhand right and I think Donaire can hold his chin against Rodriguez

https://i.imgur.com/TjUgQtu.png

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/614887

Wait, I thought that was a different fighter, this particular fight is between Donaire and Nordine Oubaali.

This is his opponent, https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/680900...  shorter than him with only 5′ 3½ in height which I think would struggle against Donaire.

https://i.imgur.com/VN7XBUA.png


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Kemarit on November 14, 2020, 11:57:48 PM
@status - please back read, Oubaali can't make the fight with Donaire that's why Rodriguez is the replacement fighter now.  :)

@Jating - Rodriguez is vulnerable to left hook and over hand right, so that's a good call. It was the left hook that put him down against Inoue, although might not be powerful as Inoue, but Donaire's left hook is one of the best in the business and it still pack with power.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Hamphser on November 14, 2020, 11:59:19 PM

Wait, I thought that was a different fighter, this particular fight is between Donaire and Nordine Oubaali.

This is his opponent, https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/680900...  shorter than him with only 5′ 3½ in height which I think would struggle against Donaire.


You can read up about the said switch up.

https://www.boxingscene.com/oubaali-out-nonito-donaire-emmanuel-rodriguez-set-1219-on-showtime--153210
https://www.rappler.com/sports/boxing/donaire-new-opponent-rodriguez-new-fight-date

Im still rooting for Donaire on this one.He had still some fire with those counter hooks.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: TravelMug on November 15, 2020, 12:40:34 AM
Regardless of who Nonito Donaire face though in the bamtamweight division not name Naoya Inoue, he will have the advantage and 90% I would say, he can beat them.

It's just sad to hear that another fighter succumb to Covid-19 as it will definitely have a financial effect to the boxer himself as he may lost a good paycheck here. Nevertheless, the fight will continue, move the date and this will be an exciting fight but for sure The Filipino Flash will be the favourite here, no doubt.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: aioc on November 15, 2020, 01:09:01 AM
Regardless of who Nonito Donaire face though in the bamtamweight division not name Naoya Inoue, he will have the advantage and 90% I would say, he can beat them.



I agree Donaire is the only fighter that exposed and hurt Naoya Inoue, he still has a good boxing days left in him, he can beat this guy Rodriguez if he has a the same form that we saw in his fight against Inoue, still has that footwork that deadly left hook, I'm on Donaire on this fight, but I'm sure Rodriguez will pose a big challenge against Nonito.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Fredomago on November 15, 2020, 03:46:53 AM
Regardless of who Nonito Donaire face though in the bamtamweight division not name Naoya Inoue, he will have the advantage and 90% I would say, he can beat them.



I agree Donaire is the only fighter that exposed and hurt Naoya Inoue, he still has a good boxing days left in him, he can beat this guy Rodriguez if he has a the same form that we saw in his fight against Inoue, still has that footwork that deadly left hook, I'm on Donaire on this fight, but I'm sure Rodriguez will pose a big challenge against Nonito.

Expect that for sure, it's not an easy catch as Rodriguez will also try his best since it's he's good opportunities to make his break into
this sport, Donaire have established a good name and if Rodriguez upset him the chance that he will get more big fights after, but for
now he needs to work it out trying to accomplished before stepping to another one.

With such high chance odd will be interesting, Donaire also needs this break to bring his name on top. He's not that old and with this
remaining fight for him, taking this opportunities to add from his achievements will be a good motivation for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: zhea on November 15, 2020, 10:15:57 AM
Regardless of who Nonito Donaire face though in the bamtamweight division not name Naoya Inoue, he will have the advantage and 90% I would say, he can beat them.

It's just sad to hear that another fighter succumb to Covid-19 as it will definitely have a financial effect to the boxer himself as he may lost a good paycheck here. Nevertheless, the fight will continue, move the date and this will be an exciting fight but for sure The Filipino Flash will be the favourite here, no doubt.

Though I'm a fan of Nonito Donaire, I am having doubt if he could win again at this time of his career. Father time is catching him and we all know that age is really a factor in boxing, with the exception of Manny Pacquaio of course. If they will release the odds and if the odds on betting on Rodriguez is tempting, I think I would go for it.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: stadus on November 15, 2020, 11:14:23 AM
@status - please back read, Oubaali can't make the fight with Donaire that's why Rodriguez is the replacement fighter now.  :)


Sorry about that, I wasn't aware, I think OP should have edited this thread. By the way it's @stadus, not status, lol.

I have to check on his opponent yet, but if it's better than Oubaali then I guess we will see a great fight ahead.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 15, 2020, 11:17:30 AM


Though I'm a fan of Nonito Donaire, I am having doubt if he could win again at this time of his career. Father time is catching him and we all know that age is really a factor in boxing, with the exception of Manny Pacquaio of course. If they will release the odds and if the odds on betting on Rodriguez is tempting, I think I would go for it.
A boxer is judge based on how he performed on his last fight, and Donito's last fight against Inoue shows that he still has it, he is the first boxer to get Inoue in trouble and the first to give him a cut, he is performing really well and there were rounds where he totally dominate Inoue.
If he can come out with a performance like that he can outbox and beat Rodriguez and besides he will just turn 38, some boxers can still keep up at 38.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Russlenat on November 15, 2020, 11:19:54 AM


Though I'm a fan of Nonito Donaire, I am having doubt if he could win again at this time of his career. Father time is catching him and we all know that age is really a factor in boxing, with the exception of Manny Pacquaio of course. If they will release the odds and if the odds on betting on Rodriguez is tempting, I think I would go for it.
A boxer is judge based on how he performed on his last fight, and Donito's last fight against Inoue shows that he still has it, he is the first boxer to get Inoue in trouble and the first to give him a cut, he is performing really well and there were rounds where he totally dominate Inoue.
If he can come out with a performance like that he can outbox and beat Rodriguez and besides he will just turn 38, some boxers can still keep up at 38.

Nonita Donaire is not getting any younger, he was ahead against his fight with Inoue but he could not keep his energy so the young guy beat him in the later rounds, his opponent now is younger than him, at 28 years old I think Donaire will have some trouble, 37 years old vs 28 years old, I'm liking his opponent here but I would only bet if he is the underdog.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: rhomelmabini on November 15, 2020, 11:34:12 AM
A boxer is judge based on how he performed on his last fight, and Donito's last fight against Inoue shows that he still has it, he is the first boxer to get Inoue in trouble and the first to give him a cut, he is performing really well and there were rounds where he totally dominate Inoue.
If he can come out with a performance like that he can outbox and beat Rodriguez and besides he will just turn 38, some boxers can still keep up at 38.

Nonita Donaire is not getting any younger, he was ahead against his fight with Inoue but he could not keep his energy so the young guy beat him in the later rounds, his opponent now is younger than him, at 28 years old I think Donaire will have some trouble, 37 years old vs 28 years old, I'm liking his opponent here but I would only bet if he is the underdog.
Lol not Nonita nor Donito it's Nonito Donaire, thank me later. Though being young is a good thing in terms of stamina but having experience I think is an ace card for a player as well. I think Nonito is still in shape to fight a young gun like Rodriguez and I don't think just because the other one is younger and his opponent is older it's always on the odd of the younger one, it's pure speculation but in this fight I am for sure vouching with my fellow countrymen Donaire.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: JohnBitCo on November 15, 2020, 11:44:53 AM
A boxer is judge based on how he performed on his last fight, and Donito's last fight against Inoue shows that he still has it, he is the first boxer to get Inoue in trouble and the first to give him a cut, he is performing really well and there were rounds where he totally dominate Inoue.
If he can come out with a performance like that he can outbox and beat Rodriguez and besides he will just turn 38, some boxers can still keep up at 38.

Nonita Donaire is not getting any younger, he was ahead against his fight with Inoue but he could not keep his energy so the young guy beat him in the later rounds, his opponent now is younger than him, at 28 years old I think Donaire will have some trouble, 37 years old vs 28 years old, I'm liking his opponent here but I would only bet if he is the underdog.
Lol not Nonita nor Donito it's Nonito Donaire, thank me later. Though being young is a good thing in terms of stamina but having experience I think is an ace card for a player as well. I think Nonito is still in shape to fight a young gun like Rodriguez and I don't think just because the other one is younger and his opponent is older it's always on the odd of the younger one, it's pure speculation but in this fight I am for sure vouching with my fellow countrymen Donaire.

I would be favoring Nonito Donaire in this match.
I dont think age will matter much in this match but he has been performing better in the past matches.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Russlenat on November 15, 2020, 11:47:20 AM
A boxer is judge based on how he performed on his last fight, and Donito's last fight against Inoue shows that he still has it, he is the first boxer to get Inoue in trouble and the first to give him a cut, he is performing really well and there were rounds where he totally dominate Inoue.
If he can come out with a performance like that he can outbox and beat Rodriguez and besides he will just turn 38, some boxers can still keep up at 38.

Nonita Donaire is not getting any younger, he was ahead against his fight with Inoue but he could not keep his energy so the young guy beat him in the later rounds, his opponent now is younger than him, at 28 years old I think Donaire will have some trouble, 37 years old vs 28 years old, I'm liking his opponent here but I would only bet if he is the underdog.
Lol not Nonita nor Donito it's Nonito Donaire, thank me later.
haha, sorry mate, it's a typo error, I'm kinda loss my focus when I'm logging in the forum drunk ;D

Though being young is a good thing in terms of stamina but having experience I think is an ace card for a player as well. I think Nonito is still in shape to fight a young gun like Rodriguez and I don't think just because the other one is younger and his opponent is older it's always on the odd of the younger one, it's pure speculation but in this fight I am for sure vouching with my fellow countrymen Donaire.

I know he is still in shape but what I saw on his Inoue fight was not the same young Nonito, he still has that good counter punching but if he was still younger and stronger, he could have already knock out Inoue on that fight and will not allow himself to gas out int he end.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: mirakal on November 15, 2020, 12:39:56 PM
I understand, in gambling, we don't use our heart all the time, so even if Nonito is a Filipino fighter, not necessarily you will side on him if you see the other fighter having an advantage, nice job and good luck, it's still a long wait though.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 15, 2020, 01:09:26 PM
I understand, in gambling, we don't use our heart all the time, so even if Nonito is a Filipino fighter, not necessarily you will side on him if you see the other fighter having an advantage, nice job and good luck, it's still a long wait though.

You cant tell people on what they should gonna do because there are really gamblers who do really bet their countrymen or as a solid fan no matter what the odds or chances it does have.

But in talks of reality if we do really aim for profit or win then its always been wise to stick out into the fighter on whom you do see that has the advantage no matter how fan you are on the
other fighter or boxer but still you would make bet into the other side because you do know that it will really had that chance.

In recent change of fighter where Donaire will fight Rodriguez then i do see that Donaire does have the edge on power and counter but he shouldnt take to easy with Rodriguez
yet even on disadvantage he had that firepower.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: dimonstration on November 15, 2020, 01:15:14 PM
Regardless of who Nonito Donaire face though in the bamtamweight division not name Naoya Inoue, he will have the advantage and 90% I would say, he can beat them.

It's just sad to hear that another fighter succumb to Covid-19 as it will definitely have a financial effect to the boxer himself as he may lost a good paycheck here. Nevertheless, the fight will continue, move the date and this will be an exciting fight but for sure The Filipino Flash will be the favourite here, no doubt.
NonitonDonairenhave improve a lot in each match he played, though we can't totally say that he will win in these fight but it's no doubt that many Filipinos will support him and bet with him like how it was when its Pacquio's match. Nonito have his own advantage same with Nordine hopefully both will be fine before their fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 15, 2020, 01:37:28 PM


Though I'm a fan of Nonito Donaire, I am having doubt if he could win again at this time of his career. Father time is catching him and we all know that age is really a factor in boxing, with the exception of Manny Pacquaio of course. If they will release the odds and if the odds on betting on Rodriguez is tempting, I think I would go for it.
A boxer is judge based on how he performed on his last fight, and Donito's last fight against Inoue shows that he still has it, he is the first boxer to get Inoue in trouble and the first to give him a cut, he is performing really well and there were rounds where he totally dominate Inoue.
If he can come out with a performance like that he can outbox and beat Rodriguez and besides he will just turn 38, some boxers can still keep up at 38.
Correct, a fighter is good as his last fight. So based on that, Nonito really gave us a good performance although he feel short, he has done so much damage on Inoue that he broke Inoue's orbital bone. So he can still crack any boxers on this division. And this is a good stylistic match up for Donaire, and he will perform better and could probably win by knock out, I reckon.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 15, 2020, 04:18:42 PM
I understand, in gambling, we don't use our heart all the time, so even if Nonito is a Filipino fighter, not necessarily you will side on him if you see the other fighter having an advantage, nice job and good luck, it's still a long wait though.

If you are into sports betting you will see who is at the advantages and you will likely bet for him, if you are a long time fan and he is fighting a fighter that is better than him, you will be more realistic by picking the better fighter, but deep in your heart you wish that the boxer you idolize will come out a better fighter, I still believe that Nonito will show the skill and the toughness that he displayed on his match against Inoue.

The title should change to Donaire - Rodriguez since Oubaali is out of the picture.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: lebregone on November 15, 2020, 09:11:55 PM
With regards to experience, Donaire has the advantage but I see that they both loss to Naoya Inoue. I can see that the odds will surely  to favor to Nonito Donaire as Emmanuel has been KO by Naoya but Naoya was unable to KO Donaire.

But let see if what will be the ace of Emmanuel in this upcoming fight as he cannot win for sure if he will not upgrade whatever technique  he has as of this moment as Donaire is a seasoned boxer and can't be beaten easily not unless he will be caught off guard.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Baofeng on November 15, 2020, 10:52:43 PM
Since I'm the one who breaks the news that Oubaali can't make to the fight and will be replaced my Emmanuel Rodriguez, I have the responsibility to message the @yazher.

Edit: Message Sent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Twinkledoe on November 15, 2020, 11:09:06 PM
Since I'm the one who breaks the news that Oubaali can't make to the fight and will be replaced my Emmanuel Rodriguez, I have the responsibility to message the @yazher.

Edit: Message Sent.

Yes, OP should change his title thread and so we will start looking for bookies that will list this match and check what are the odds for this new match. Bestodds haven't listed this yet but will check with bookies. I am guessing, the odds will favour Donaire here. But let's see.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Kemarit on November 15, 2020, 11:44:34 PM
@status - please back read, Oubaali can't make the fight with Donaire that's why Rodriguez is the replacement fighter now.  :)


Sorry about that, I wasn't aware, I think OP should have edited this thread. By the way it's @stadus, not status, lol.

I have to check on his opponent yet, but if it's better than Oubaali then I guess we will see a great fight ahead.

I also apologize.

Yes, my personal opinion is that Rodriguez is a better opponent for Donaire. Rodriguez really loves a straight up fight, he is Puerto Rican and we all know that they are also a warrior. No odds yet, but we all know that Donaire will be the betting favourite and I also looking for a great fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: Japinat on November 15, 2020, 11:58:49 PM
@status - please back read, Oubaali can't make the fight with Donaire that's why Rodriguez is the replacement fighter now.  :)


Sorry about that, I wasn't aware, I think OP should have edited this thread. By the way it's @stadus, not status, lol.

I have to check on his opponent yet, but if it's better than Oubaali then I guess we will see a great fight ahead.

I also apologize.

Yes, my personal opinion is that Rodriguez is a better opponent for Donaire. Rodriguez really loves a straight up fight, he is Puerto Rican and we all know that they are also a warrior. No odds yet, but we all know that Donaire will be the betting favourite and I also looking for a great fight.

Like Miguel Cotto, he is a Puerto Rican and I liked the way he fight, he never back down even if he is already beaten up, like his fight with Manny. Lucky for Cotto to have fight the greatest boxers in the world, unlike other fighters which are only cherry picking their opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: coin-investor on November 16, 2020, 12:16:48 AM
With regards to experience, Donaire has the advantage but I see that they both loss to Naoya Inoue. I can see that the odds will surely  to favor to Nonito Donaire as Emmanuel has been KO by Naoya but Naoya was unable to KO Donaire.



Donaire has a huge advantage if we take that analysis, Rodriguez is a hard nut to crack he was floored several times before the referee stop the fight and he don't look groggy it's just the body punches that send him in the canvass, Rodriguez is a slugger, Donaire should finish the fight early because this is a young fighter who can take a 12 round fights, Donaire losses steam in his last fight against Inoue, he should not let thing happens.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: yazher on November 16, 2020, 02:30:03 AM
Thread has been updated Nonito Donaire will fight Emmanuel Rodriguez because of particular reasons. Either way, the fight will gonna happened in December so expect to get some updates in this thread regarding this fight. Feel bad for Ouballi hope he gets better soon.

https://www.boxingscene.com/oubaali-out-donaire-fight-he-covid-19-says-adviser--153232


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: peter0425 on November 16, 2020, 02:45:22 AM
Thread has been updated Nonito Donaire will fight Emmanuel Rodriguez because of particular reasons. Either way, the fight will gonna happened in December so expect to get some updates in this thread regarding this fight. Feel bad for Ouballi hope he gets better soon.

https://www.boxingscene.com/oubaali-out-donaire-fight-he-covid-19-says-adviser--153232
This is disappointing to Uobaali as He had trained long enough just to be out because of this covid in which i believe wont affect badly the health of this Boxer.

But what can we do as the announcement already done and the schedule for replacement has been declared already.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: btc_angela on November 16, 2020, 08:53:09 AM
Thread has been updated Nonito Donaire will fight Emmanuel Rodriguez because of particular reasons. Either way, the fight will gonna happened in December so expect to get some updates in this thread regarding this fight. Feel bad for Ouballi hope he gets better soon.

https://www.boxingscene.com/oubaali-out-donaire-fight-he-covid-19-says-adviser--153232
This is disappointing to Uobaali as He had trained long enough just to be out because of this covid in which i believe wont affect badly the health of this Boxer.

But what can we do as the announcement already done and the schedule for replacement has been declared already.

Not the first time to happen though, that's why athletes need to be very careful as well, follow the safety protocol as not to contact the covid-19 virus. Yes, it's disappointing but he can't do anything about it. Probably he can wait it out and maybe he can get a chance to either fight Donaire or Inoue in the future.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Nordine Oubaali vs. Nonito Donaire - December 12
Post by: stadus on November 16, 2020, 10:10:19 AM
@status - please back read, Oubaali can't make the fight with Donaire that's why Rodriguez is the replacement fighter now.  :)


Sorry about that, I wasn't aware, I think OP should have edited this thread. By the way it's @stadus, not status, lol.

I have to check on his opponent yet, but if it's better than Oubaali then I guess we will see a great fight ahead.

I also apologize.

Yes, my personal opinion is that Rodriguez is a better opponent for Donaire. Rodriguez really loves a straight up fight, he is Puerto Rican and we all know that they are also a warrior. No odds yet, but we all know that Donaire will be the betting favourite and I also looking for a great fight.

No worries man, we have our own opinion and sometimes we missed some information that is vital for the discussion, I'm happy to see that finally OP has changed the thread title to the correct one.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: bisdak40 on December 09, 2020, 09:39:25 PM
Bad news for Filipino fans as our Filipino Flash can't fight this coming December 19 due to COVID-19.

But the good news is Donaire will be replace by Philippine prospect Reymart Gaballo which is undefeated in 23 fights and could be the next champion in this division. Just don't know though if this still be a title fight since the two main protagonist for the belt is out because of covid.

https://www.boxingscene.com/donaire-tests-positive-covid-19-out-1219-fight-against-rodriguez--153901


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: TimeTeller on December 09, 2020, 10:29:06 PM
Bad news for Filipino fans as our Filipino Flash can't fight this coming December 19 due to COVID-19.

But the good news is Donaire will be replace by Philippine prospect Reymart Gaballo which is undefeated in 23 fights and could be the next champion in this division. Just don't know though if this still be a title fight since the two main protagonist for the belt is out because of covid.

https://www.boxingscene.com/donaire-tests-positive-covid-19-out-1219-fight-against-rodriguez--153901

Everyone seems to get covid. This fight becomes the replacement vs replacement.  ;D
Anyway, hopefully we can see Donaire fight again.
Or maybe this will be a blessing in disguise for Gaballo.
If the original fighters can't make it, would it be better to just cancel the match and just make a new set of fighters vying for a different belt?


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: Russlenat on December 09, 2020, 11:25:58 PM
Bad news for Filipino fans as our Filipino Flash can't fight this coming December 19 due to COVID-19.

But the good news is Donaire will be replace by Philippine prospect Reymart Gaballo which is undefeated in 23 fights and could be the next champion in this division. Just don't know though if this still be a title fight since the two main protagonist for the belt is out because of covid.

https://www.boxingscene.com/donaire-tests-positive-covid-19-out-1219-fight-against-rodriguez--153901

Everyone seems to get covid. This fight becomes the replacement vs replacement.  ;D
Anyway, hopefully we can see Donaire fight again.
Or maybe this will be a blessing in disguise for Gaballo.
If the original fighters can't make it, would it be better to just cancel the match and just make a new set of fighters vying for a different belt?

This would also change the betting odds, in the original match up, I believe Donaire was the heavy favorites but this time they might have an even odds and that's what I like to see as I would love to bet on the filipino fighter with good odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: TravelMug on December 10, 2020, 01:23:13 AM
Bad news for Filipino fans as our Filipino Flash can't fight this coming December 19 due to COVID-19.

But the good news is Donaire will be replace by Philippine prospect Reymart Gaballo which is undefeated in 23 fights and could be the next champion in this division. Just don't know though if this still be a title fight since the two main protagonist for the belt is out because of covid.

https://www.boxingscene.com/donaire-tests-positive-covid-19-out-1219-fight-against-rodriguez--153901

Oh, too bad for Filipino Flash, was just trying to look up about this upcoming fight and it's sad to hear that Donaire because he was positive of the covid-19.

In any case, it's good that another Filipino will be given a shot to fame. Unknown fighter but he can make a name for himself here if he won by knocking out his opponent.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: Kemarit on December 10, 2020, 01:27:18 AM
Reymart Gaballo should really take this big opportunity he has been presented, because this is a once in a lifetime fight for him. I'm sure that since the champion is not fighting, this will be a non-title fight. But it doesn't mean the Gaballo should not put his 100% here.

I check his record, https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/677961, seems to be a decent fighter, which a good high percentage KO rate. Good prospect and could be the next bright future for Filipino fighters. And also has exposure in the US so I think he will be the favorite here.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: NavI_027 on December 10, 2020, 04:08:11 AM
Everyone seems to get covid. This fight becomes the replacement vs replacement.  ;D
Anyway, hopefully we can see Donaire fight again.
Or maybe this will be a blessing in disguise for Gaballo.
Definitely a blessing in disguise for him. I am not familiar with him actually but in all fairness he got a nice record. This could be his best chance to showcase his skills and talent. Nonito Donaire was already out of his prime imo so maybe Gaballo could be the next Filipino superstar from this division. Just a maybe lol. But seriously, reaching 23 and 0 is not a joke, he is obviously not a cheap fighter.
If the original fighters can't make it, would it be better to just cancel the match and just make a new set of fighters vying for a different belt?

If one contender for a title match wasn't able to fight due to valid reasons (like the covid 19 infection) and got replaced by the other then it was okay as long as the opposing team agreed of course. But assuming that both fighters didn't make it and the management prepared a new match for the title then I think it's unfair already. More acceptable move is to postpone the fight , wait for them to recover and resume. Those fighters work hard climbing up to the top of the rankings, of course they don't want their chance to easily slip away :D.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: Japinat on December 10, 2020, 10:33:18 AM
I'm surprise with this fight, both camp had a replacement, I wonder how would people appreciate this fight.

Nonito Donaire is the main attraction here because he is the popular boxer, but now it's replace by a Filipino fighter which was not popular IMO, so what's up with this one. Might as well cancel the fight than keep replacing, I don't think it will sell as per expectation.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: btc_angela on December 10, 2020, 11:10:34 AM
I'm surprise with this fight, both camp had a replacement, I wonder how would people appreciate this fight.

Nonito Donaire is the main attraction here because he is the popular boxer, but now it's replace by a Filipino fighter which was not popular IMO, so what's up with this one. Might as well cancel the fight than keep replacing, I don't think it will sell as per expectation.

I think it will be very hard to cancel this fight as we are closer to the date itself. Logistics and everything has been setup, so it's better just to proceed and replace Nonito with another upcoming fighter which is a Filipino.

I'm sure many of us are disappointed, so let's say enjoy the fight and see if this replacement Filipino could be as competitive as Nonito if not has more power.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: Janation on December 10, 2020, 11:16:09 AM
Been waiting for this and then this happened.

If Nonito Donaire can't fight, I agree that it should just be canceled. I've been supporting the Filipino Flash with his first fight against Inoue and I thought Donaire could win. If he won't fight, that just means there will be no rematch which kind of sad because I want to see how Nonito gets back up from that fight. Gaballo is also a great fighter, I will support him if this continues but I really hope it is Nonito getting in that ring.


Title: Re: [Boxing]: Emmanuel Rodriguez vs. Nonito Donaire - December 19
Post by: yazher on December 10, 2020, 11:42:02 AM
Donaire won't gonna fight and the whole fight is postpone now, I wonder what's next for him. meanwhile, need to lock this thread and will make another topic about another boxing match of Donaire if he ever fights again.