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Do not trade Alts with BTC these days, You will just lose

I do not recommend to trade alts with btc these days otherwise you will be just loosing your money. As BTC hitting its ATH, the prices of alts are dumping even if it is BNB or any other coin whichever was stable in the last months. Just trade BTC/USD only.

Traders must know the risk of this one and we cannot tell them what to do even if we know the future of Bitcoin. Altcoins may not be active in the past days but I believe when bitcoin goes on a bull trend, altcoins will follow so trading with altcoins can still be profitable but yes make sure you have Bitcoin on your holdings.

BTC continues to go up and was able to hit the price of $14k, but buying it now might be too risky because we don’t know if bitcoin will go for more up trend or we will see another breakdown, this is why some are losing their money with bitcoin.

Top altcoins are also profitable, we should continue to diversify and hold many good coins/tokens as much as possible, we cannot just focus on BTC/USDT because we might miss some opportunity outside that.

We all knew that. We are bound to lose no matter how many wins you do, there will be a season that you will gonna lose. That's life, and that's how it works. If you are really a trader you are used to it, you cannot avoid that but you can sometimes minimise it, in order for you not to lose too much. We should learn how to manage our emotions.

Ever hear of "buy low, sell high"?  What does that suggest about the altcoin market at the moment?  Seems to me that buying bitcoin as it's hitting its high for the year while neglecting altcoins which are getting pounded is a silly move.

You don't make money by buying things when they're at their high.  That's a sucker move, but it always happens in bull markets, whether it's crypto, stocks, whatever. 

I'm not really that into altcoins, though there are some good ones--but I'd say now would be a pretty smart time to be buying those good ones, i.e., while their price is relatively low.

True. ! People are seeing on the other way around on when they do see reds then thats the time they do plan to avoid it without even having second thoughts that this is the best
time for them to get in because market will eventually make up some recovery after some price increase in the other side. Money will flow again into alts thats why
its ideal or a smart move on accumulating it while its cheap.Its just too dumb on considering on buying out when price is shooting up.
Buy low sell high is indeed a basic thing but really hard to be applied but on the basic concept then you can really realize on what are the indicators for the best time on making
up some purchases or making up a position.

Not all have bad hands in trading like you. If you lose just recently, then blame your strategy.

There are lots of times where BTC pumped but others can still profit trading altcoins.

Traders won't be called traders if they don't know how to deal with volatility.

This always depends on the strategy of the trader. If he's okay doing BTC/Alt trade, he knows that it's better for him to do that. But if I'll be giving a suggestion, this is no time to use your bitcoin if you're trusting the pump will be in favor of bitcoin.
We're seeing the breaking of barriers for higher prices and this is an advantage if you use the spare money to trade than to use bitcoin.

Not a good recommendation. Traders are used to this BTC pump scene while the majority of altcoins are dumped. Why stopped trading altcoins if they can buy more these days.

It depends on the strategy of why traders lose and not because BTC is pumping.

This is actually supposed a usual and common scene and experienced traders already know what to do.

I'll be buying potential altcoins today than Bitcoin. I don't think it was a loose end for me knowing that Bitcoin's price will surely keep its momentum forever. Dumps are still inevitable and that possible for Bitcoin to dump in the coming days making the altcoins surge high back again. I was not really hopeless about that, even I see Bitcoin is more profitable and preferred for trading but we need also to be more practical because not all the time that Bitcoin worth like the same thing with Altcoins.

As many say's, it depends on how we approach the market and work on our trades.

As Bitcoin Dominance continues to pump, yes you may right that altcoins may be hammered.
But speaking of trading, there are some altcoins that have futures market, where you can short them or selling high, then buying low, which you may get profits by that kind of trading, it is a short position.

I believed Altcoin already suffered enough and the usual pattern of altcoin is to follow the flow of BTC once BTC price steady at some point. Future trading is a bit complicated and more risky compared on regular trading because it has a liquidation limit that will cause to loss of your asset unlike regular trading that you have a chance to recover if you hodl your asset.

The OP advice is good for those who open position when BTC price is low but for people who left by BTC train. Altcoin is the opportunity train for them to have a good profit. Right timing is the key.

it is a good time to short altcoins though. they will have a lot of dumps.

first of all no altcoin has ever been capable of performing half as good as bitcoin in long run let alone outperform it. so calling it "diversification" is just silly. it is even more silly when you see they get dumped whenever bitcoin rises so what you call "diversification" is actually increasing your losses.

secondly majority of altcoins don't have any kind of potential and all the rises you see are the pumping part of the pump and dump. if you look closely you will see the second part which is the dumping too.

by the way it is BTC/USD not USDT, tether is also another centralized altcoin that should be avoided.

Even though the market price of the bitcoin is continuously increasing still I bought some of the altcoins like the BNB, XRP, and more because I saw the potential of this coin to increase because some of them are centralized still its better to have a different source of income, not just the bitcoin, there are a lot of people saying that when the bitcoin is increasing its not good to buy altcoins but still it depends on your knowledge because it's better to not become dependent on the knowledge of other people. Trade, buy, and sell at your own risk.

This is not the only time BTC is pumping. This has often happened, even Bitcoin can reach ATH and altcoins are at the lower level.
For traders who already know the market situation, they already know which strategy to use and which altcoin to choose for their trade.

We should not be pessimistic when altcoins are below, there are still altcoins that provide profits and altcoins that follow the bitcoin trend.
Sometimes in hard times altcoins even there are still traders who can take advantage of situations like this and not a few of them can also take advantage when bitcoin is pump up.

If a trader can't manage his coin in the trading, he doesn't have to trade bitcoin and altcoin at the same time because he will hard to focus on one coin. Before you trade, you need to find out which coin has a good movement at the market, and since bitcoin price has a good move at the market, bitcoin can be our choice to trade. Bitcoin price now the time to be more volatile, and we really need to analyze deeper to find a good time to buy and sell bitcoin.

But if you think that you can trade the altcoin, and you see the chance to make a profit in bitcoin is available in the altcoin, then you can trade the altcoin pair bitcoin/usdt. But you need to be careful since that can make you confuse to get the time to trade.

This is not something new, we are experiencing for the first time; if you have enough experienced then this must be the right time to go for shorting altcoins against BTC; but unfortunately most exchanges are not supporting that kind of trading still you need to do it on your own like you may sell your altcoins stash and then need to buy back at lower price levels.

Yeah, it will take time for altcoins to follow bitcoin's trend but immediately when bitcoin is entering into bull mode, usually altcoins face downfall to maintain equivalent USD value. Yes, if you have enough BTCs then you may buy altcoins at its every support levels.

This needs intensive analysis so that you can easily multiply your BTCs in comparatively more quicker time. I do buy reputed altcoins at every resistance levels of bitcoins; one simple trick I do follow to maximize my BTC holding.

I agree, you can still make profit trading altcoins, but you need to be very knowledgeable. And traders are willing to risk to trade alts with BTC, it's very calculated and the moment that it is no longer profitable then they will have to come up with another strategy, because that's how traders make money here, there are no one formula for everyone. You need to find out what works for you in the end.

I disagree, look at the past 24 hours and you can see that alts have gone up, which is the indicator that just because you think something may go down, doesn't mean that it will go down, it could very well go up as well and that is what I believe is happening right here as well.

It is not really a situation of "will alts go up or down" but more about you and I will never know what they are going to do so to react like we know is not really the correct thing to do. You should do that if you are a quick scalp day trader but when you are talking about general directions I feel that is usually not about what is going to happen in the next half an hour, it is usually at least a day or even a week which we can't possibly know. So, if you think highly of a coin and like it, ignore all the current situations and get involved, it will be eventually up one of these days anyway.

I don't think so. BTC hits 15k+. Also alts are pumping with btc. If you see the chart for last 2-3days you will se that alts us going up slowly with the support of BTC price. Especially some stabilised and old altcoins are enjoying the btc pump.

too high-risk trading Alts with BTC at this bullish time...
I agree with your suggestion that only recommend trading BTC/USD at the moment, as the Alts price moved late. I am currently monitoring market movements and I noticed that Altcoins is not moving fast at all following the Bitcoin price movement.

Everyone has different trading strategies, so feel free to make decisions according to what we believe. If anyone thinks this is a good
opportunity to buy altcoins during the Bitcoin pump, please take it at your own risk. But I choose to follow the same strategy as what
was said in the opening post, that avoid trading BTC / Alts nowadays, and focus on BTC / USD trading. Because I am not a trading
professional who has good knowledge in the world of trading, So I decided to play it safe by trading only BTC / USD.

Now the bitcoin dominance index is near a strong resistance line. Altcoins may start to rise soon. There is no growth without corrections) But it is important to observe risk management and always use a stop loss.

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If others don't want to trade alts these days, then up to them.

It's not that we should totally stop trading alts these days because of BTC dominance but we can consider that as a low priority for now. Still do some regular monitoring of our altcoins as a surprise can happen anytime.

For those alts believers, they can buy cheap coins atm so still a good time to trade.

I think traders are aware of this thing and it can be a risky move if you still decided to trade your alts. Altcoins are not moving upward like bitcoin, usually btc influence the price of alts but not this time. Some might think selling their alts to hold bitcoin but for me there's a right time to do it and not at loss. Well it is still depends on your strategy because there's always a way to make profit, base on your knowledge as a trader.

Make an analysis because you're the only one who can decide on what to do with your coins.

Not an assured thing but you do know that you would really have the chance for some gains.People are really fan on making up conclusions but well it cant be blamed since

it been on numerous times on where theres a pump then most likely alts doesn't come along and even possibly go in reds and when the time comes where bitcoin is on reds

they do even go deeper that's why hesitations and doubts will be there that's why someone cant just easily just step on and buy on the coin that they had faith on.

There would always be that kind of observation time or duration before making any further step.

As much as I'd like to side with OP due to the constant drop in the last few weeks, but the best time to pick up these alts are in times like this because that's where the most money is made. The problem is that, Its difficult to actually buy at these prices as alts keep discovering new lows while bitcoin keeps climbing. This is the time people gets opportunity to make money but sadly, only very few take advantage of it but only want to on board the bandwagon when the price is at the top. Then they still come back to cry when in loss.

Generally, bitcoin is always stronger then altcoins. Please get more details in Bitcoin pumps/ dumps and altcoin price actions (2013 - 2020) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281718.0). A note for you is pump or dump in that analysis is for a threshold of -5% (decrease) or +5% (increase) of bitcoin price.


With current price of altcoins in their trading pairs with BTC, it is good to make your entry and hold them for a while (next one month or 2 months). You can discover it with charts.

Some top altcoins

Some stable coins

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Yeap, bitcoin domination and its resistance are part of the story. Remember it was biassed from shit DeFi tokens so that bitcoin might keep rising a bit more to fill the fake marketcap contributions from shit DeFi tokens. After that, bitcoin will reach its true domination resistance.

Assuming we are talking about "profit" and not "technical aspects" then this statement isn't accurate, it would make sense if you had the chance to buy bitcoin 10 years back vs any other coin now, but that isn't the option, it's all trading bitcoin vs another currency now.

With the relatively large market cap of bitcoin, your gains will be smaller compared to smaller currencies, obviously, the opposite is correct too, you take more risk investing in altcoins.

Some coins are 200% up against BTC this year, so they did outperform bitcoin price-wise, none of those coins can compete with bitcoin in all other aspects, their market cap combined won't get close enough to BTC's market cap, but the potential profit is uncomparable.



It isn't silly IMO, he makes perfect sense, in many cases, alt coins go up, BTC goes down or sideways, it isn't always BTC up and alts down, it depends, right now all eyes are on bitcoin, liquidity goes mainly to BTC, but sooner or later some of that money will find its way into the alt market, whether we like it or not, the large gains lie within the small coins, the last DeFi wave made millionaires from a coupe thousands $ of investment, sadly, most of those projects are pretty useless and some went down close to zero but that is how things actually work.


USD isn't decentralized either, most exchanges don't have a trading pair called BTC/USD, because dealing with USD directly triggers the KYC crap, unless you are fortunate enough and come from a 1st world country then most exchanges you could use will only allow you to trade BTC/USDT, BTC/TUSD or any other fiat-backed currency, I personally don't trust any of those coins and I think that none of them is 100% backed, but there is nothing to do about it if you really want to trade in an attempt to increase your BTC holding.

The reason why people are buying alts is because they are very cheap these days. Look at ETHBTC, how low can it possibily go. Seems like a decent risk reward to buy some ETH at these levels. Same with LTC and XRP which are hitting record lows compared to BTC.

So people decide whether they want to sell BTC for fiat or alts. If they sell for fiat they are mostly done. But if they sell for alts like ETHBTC and then that alt goes 3x, and they can sell that alt for fiat and get 3x as much. Probably not a good example but you get the general idea.

However we have been waiting "years" for alt season like we had in early 2018, who knows when the right time will be?

altcoins are not always always together to increase at times like now that bitcoin is entering its peak period. but experience says that somehow altcoins are not getting carried away with the increase in bitcoin but eventually altcoins will also move up and that's a common thing. indeed at this time altcoin has not moved but in time it will also follow with bitcoin.

so there is no need to hesitate to keep holding altcoins, especially for the top rankings because the impact will be felt even though it is a bit late.
Altcoin investing remains very profitable and could very well increase as well. feel free to do so and stay optimistic.

What about taking out bitcoin in margin trading and then buy some altcoins?

$15k bitcoin now .. while waiting correction let's say you go take 1 bitcoin and exchange it to 5,000 xzc at $3 each..
Once the altcoin season begins... the xzc price pumped to $6 each and your 5,000 xzc now worth $30k and at the same time the bitcoin price corrected to $13k then you only need to pay that amount of $13k , you have the rest of $17k as a profit!
That's the sweet scenario.
Now talking about the worst scenario , the price of bitcoin continues to grow and the altcoin continue to dropped , this is the crucial moment for you to set the right open and closing position. Trust me it has a lot of risk doing this  :D but it's delicious though.

Then turned the situation into our advantage. Don't stop trading but instead, cope up with the situation unless you are a die-hard trader of BTC/USD pair and only focus on that. Even BTC is not on the bull run, there are still struggling to make profits on altcoins so don't take the current situation as a reason why not consider trading altcoins these days.

For most traders, it's a great opportunity to buy other altcoins as the trend is considered "on-sale".

At the end of the day, analyze what's the best thing to do. It's your money after all.

Yes Bitcoin has been doing better than every other coin and more investments are going into it , anyone that's trading should trade with BTC/USD unless you're a really good expert and you know what you're doing and you have better plans on how to trade the alts, that aside BTC is the right cryptocurrency to be trading now with just USD. And then if you're a long term investor or trader, it's a good choice to continue with the Hodl if you want to see better profit.

When people were saying it was last year, I never believed it, I kept saying that it's going to be this year or next, and even if it's going to be this year it would be anywhere around December, and we are yet to reach there, the price is speeding up, in less than 24 hours of reaching $15,000 is close to $15,500.

"profit" can be defined in different ways. the long term profit which i have in mind is the performance i was talking about. altcoins have always been pump and dumps, where they get pumped and can well outperform bitcoin but then they will get dumped and all that profit goes up in smokes.

there were shitcoins that went from 0.0001 satoshi (that is a fraction of a satoshi) to 1000 satoshi which simply outperforms bitcoin's entire rise history (that is about 1 billion percent rise!). they don't even exist today.

so i agree that if we only consider short term gains as day traders a lot of shitcoins can outperform bitcoin but they also have a much bigger risk and will have a dump.

that's the difference between a rise (what bitcoin has) and a pump (what altcoins have). the price achieved after a rise stays while the price achieved after a pump goes away.

"investors" who "diversify" are looking for long term investment and high reward, low risk investment. altcoins don't match that description.

true but at least it is not issued and controlled by some shady company and it can not be shut down by some agency some day to suddenly fall down to zero in a blinking of an eye!

that would have been true if the said exchange had no KYC at all. i do not know any centralized exchange (specifically those who list tether and not USD) that doesn't have KYC requirements!
IMO the reason why these altcoin exchanges (eg. Binance) don't include USD is because they want to avoid having their business go on the law enforcement radar that fight money laundering, etc. this way they don't have to have a bank account, register their company or have a HQ. which funnily enough we don't know where Binance HQ is and they have always been evading being transparent about it!

Thanks for the tip.
I think I will be waiting for a dump then.

Most of my the altcoins in my portfolio are not in a good phase.
Yeah, that makes you worry and try to sell them thru BTC which is hyped right now.
Like a panic attack or riding the big boat.

I don’t mind trading shitcoins for BTC. But for promising alts like Ethereum, Stellar Lumens, etc., of course I wouldn’t convert them to Bitcoin for now since it is on a parabolic move. Because of this move, correction would be parabolic as well. Always better diversify your assets rather than just trading them all into Bitcoin, so that you will get less disappointment if the situation moves south.

For people who have a lot of money to spend, buying bitcoin at the current rate probably won't be a problem and the chance of bitcoin to reach a higher point is still very likely to happen. Nevertheless, some altcoins inclined to follow bitcoin whenever it rise such as Litecoin or ETH which provide a larger spectrum of profits even for relatively small amounts of capital. Many traders share their technical analysis regarding those coins as well.

i have a shitcoin here and i didnt trade them to alts or to btc because the value of them is still low , not just i love them but i dedicate time to get them on the past but by the way if thats your decision that was still okay because btc was valueable compare to shitcoins not only because of the current price of btc right now but valueable because it was a good quality of coin . on the altcoins there are many valueable altcoins and not all altcoins are falling . eth is one of that , its now trading at over 425 usd and thats a nice price compare to the last price of eth

why we should worry to trade altcoin meanwhile in market we found many cheap coins now. if we smart choosing altcoin that have low price and good fundamental , trading altcoin will give us huge profits. dont affraid with loss , it will always occur in market and we just need to manage it if suffering us.

Once we are here in cryptocurrency business, expect the risk whether the price of bitcoin will go down or up.
Even the price of Bitcoin at the moment are kicking in the market while most of the altcoins are dumping their price. But for sure,
once the bitcoin value get down I am pretty sure as well the some of the altcoins will also pump their price temporarily,
I have seen this during during bull run.

You can trade alts but make sure that you will lower the allocation, most of the investors and trader switched into bitcoin and it is the reason why it is gaining momentum unlike the altcoins that doesn't have high volume in this current days. Risk management is important especially for those altcoin traders, by lowering your allocation; you can prevent huge losses that you may incur. Bitcoin is currently above $15,000 and there is a possibility that it will do a small consolidation and will break again the next resistance around $16,000. Most of the altcoins are still in consolidation but I like to commend the ETH because earlier this day, the price managed to breakout in the long consolidation and the price of the ETH is currently at $442 which for me is a good sign and I think it will also gain momentum in these following days.

Shitcoins meant to be wasted, nothing good will happen for those coins, let alone trade them, it simply worthless.
I consider stellar lumens won't achieve a higher price, look at the price chart, barely maintain its position at $0,1 since last year.
Better to stick with some famous altcoins since the price always tends to rise whenever bitcoin climb up.

Binance is a very good site for exchange and investment every trader earns a lot of profit through investment but don't trade Alts with BTC these days. You will lose trade will depend on the skill of the trader and the demand of the market. But now with the rise in the price of Bitcoin the price of Altcoin has the potential to rise the risk of losing will be less if you can invest properly. you need to invest by analysing the currency charts.

As long as we can be careful to buy cheap altcoins and only select the coin that can increase, we will make a profit from the coin. But I am afraid that it will not be easy to analyze the coin because all coins in the market want to show the power to rise. Make sure you analyze deeper to find more clues about the coin, including finding a good price to buy the coin.

Yeah I feel what OP say, I tried to trade btc/altcoin since two days ago when bitcoin trying to reach $15.000 and most of my trade just got a loss even I've lost half of the capital that I spend, it was horrible. And my stupidy continues to trade altcoin/usdt and I got the lost as well when I use some leverage. The altcoin price is really volatile now and its price movement can't be predicted.

I see on one side the altcoin price will follow bitcoin price movement but when bitcoin price up the altcoin price just down and when bitcoin down the altcoin price just down quickly. I use 1 hour time frame, you can see its movement price. I'm really angry because at the uptrend market I just got a huge loss, seem like I have to choose bitcoin only to trade and using high leverage.

It will depend on the personal strategy of each trader. personally, I will check the rats at that time when going to sell. It may be little bit different enough. Then, it is also about the fees and also the condition whether the pairing will be up or down soon. It is the way I must analyze them first before taking the decision. trading is not easy, in my own thought. So, that commonly will try to break the difficulty in analysis

At the moment all eyes are on bitcoin, most people want to transfer their investments to bitcoin.
However, if you are an experienced trader, you can still make a lot of money trading altcoins, just buy and sell properly you can make a great profit in this time.

I agree that trading BTC for anything else automatically means you're at a loss.

I can't emphasise enough the importance of this. I already know a few people who traded BTC to buy Alts and now all the Alts are doing very poorly and in fact these people are in a much greater loss than they even started with. Don't do the same mistake. Irrespective of how the market plays you should NEVER, ever exchange your BTC for alts no matter what alt it is. Take this advice and you'll do much better than the average person on here  ;)

Scared Bitcoins don't make no Bitcoins.  :P

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I saw someone sell 2 LTC for dust the other day, there is always coins to be made.

I couldn't agree more. If you want to trade, try xxx/usd or xxx/usdt. They are better can give you more money in a decent time. Bitcoin is currently dominate the market with high volume and liquidity

However, if you decide to hold a coin, having some alts is not a bad idea though. There are many promising projects waiting to be pumped. For example: district0x  (https://coinmarketcap.com/vi/currencies/district0x/) has increased more than 300% recently. And there portfolio are convincing. Many coins absolutely follows the path of bitcoin. I believe we can trade alt/btc in the first quarter of 2021 where almost every coins will increase.

If you ask me trading Bitcoin for alts was never good idea and especially isn't now. Besides majority of altcoins are not worth attention, especially not for trading. Ethereum and Litecoin might be good as alternative for holding .
These days were very good for trading Bitcoin so let's hope favourable period will continue.

I do not agree to put all altcoins under the same basket as each other, that doesn't make sense at all considering the vast amount of coins we talk about when we generalize as "altcoins". We are talking about that scam coin that became 6573th biggest coin and has zero volume and not listed anywhere and is basically dead and worthless while we are talking about king of altcoins Ethereum, and they are all altcoins.

So, I agree that if you trade with alts that are bad you will probably lose money, but if we are talking about altcoins like ETH or BNB we are not really going to lose that much money. Would you make "more" profits with bitcoin? So far it looks like that, but we are comparing profits here and not losses, you could make profits with either of them but bitcoin could be more profitable that's it.

Yes, trading alts at this moment is risky as we cannot 100% predict what will happen next, as we know btc has a mind of its own. As it stands I can't even risk trading now as I have already lost some money, but for sure btc will surely retrace before any major move. Altacoins always follow suit after btc has finished pumping, so,  I will just watch the market waiting to see if I can see  some good entry positions for ETH and BNB, and some good alts.

With the domination of Bitcoin reaching 64% this has proven that many people hold Bitcoin, so trading BTC / USD is safer to do.
Moreover, seeing the increasing price of Bitcoin makes BTC / USD trading more recommended. So I really agree that now trading
BTC / altcoins is very risky compared to trading BTC / USD. So if you don't want to suffer losses, avoid trading BTC / alt right now.

maybe it is possible that the analysis you say can fulfill what is on the minds of everyone who is involved in crypto. but as long as the trading is profitable and can be accounted for, I think there is no problem with what to trade using, because what is needed is profit or if you lose it can be at least small. whatever the exchange is fine and fine.

but also it must be remembered that many altcoins are quite prominent and have a lot of potential in the future because now they have started to experience a pretty good increase.

It depends on how you trade the altcoin, if you trade wisely you can still make a profit. All price increases or decreases in the cryptocurrency market have small up and down waves, if you catch them you will make a profit trading altcoin pairs.
Besides, pouring all your money into bitcoin transactions brings a lot of risks, it's best to break your investments down.

Although the advice everywhere is to avoid all altcoins when bitcoin is mooning, there still some alts that shouldn't be avoided totally as they tend to move along with bitcoin mostly when that astonishing spikes in price is happening coins like ethereum are perfect example as we are currently observing. Ethereum increase in price though has alot to do with it's 2.0 upgrade that the contract for staking has been deployed.

Still if you do understand how the market react then your chances of profiting from both market becomes certain. Alts react late when bitcoin moon which is why it's advisable to avoid them but if you can trade them in fiats or probably other alts you can make profit but trading them against bitcoin is suicided unless you're shorting. You can also take advantage of margin trading and short them which could probably give you huge returns while you also profit from the bitcoin market. This is advance trading therefore shouldn't be practice by nooms though.

You have to look at history to see what people have done before. Most weren't around to see LTC go to $50 and then $2, and then there was ETH going in 2017, and gain another round of alt recovery. If you have never traded ForEx this is pretty much it - trading one currency for another.

If you're going to invest in alts - do it with fiat. If you do it with BTC the regret alone will make you stop trading. Dash, ETH, LTC never recovered from their highs and BTC dominance is still where it was 3 years ago despite a plethora of new 2nd/3rd gen cryptos.

There is also vice versa scenario if altcoin bull seasons start. It means it will be much more profitable if  you invest in altcoin your 1bitcoij will be equivalent to much higher BTC if the season started.

I don't know where it will happen but it will be much more profitable for investors. if you want to secure your money then better stay in Bitcoin only that altcoin is only for those who have guts to lost money or aware about the risk.

I agree with your opinion when bitcoin become dominance more than 70% and bitcoin keep growing up and make altcoin not have chance for growing up now. Better waiting until bitcoin have reach higher price and keep stable for giving chance for altcoin to grow up, just now still moment for bitcoin and not good timing of you wanna entry to altcoin. But have some altcoin have good timing now with touch higher price like ethereum keep continue growing like bitcoin.

Yeah, when bitcoin is dominating more than 70% in total capitalization of crypto space, it would be much better not to touch any altcoins for trading purposes. It can be a basic thump rule like when bitcoin dominance is increasing then we should book profits in altcoins so that we may get chances to buy at cheaper prices. I'm not sure how many altcoins will be finding capabilities to stand against high-value bitcoins because I am seeing already lots of altcoins are facing very low value which which may lead them into delisting as well :-[.

This has been a good suggestion for years but people are not ready to listen to it. They somehow want to risk with altcoins as well. Quick and easy profits could be the few of the reasons for them still considering about altcoins investments.

Don't listen to this advice or the one that follows. You can still make money trading alts by profiting from the bounces, betting on reversals or if you are more experienced and courageous you can try your hand at shorting them. Professional traders can make money no matter which way the market goes. You just need a solid strategy and stick to it.

Of course, this is a wrong take, it all depends on the altcoin you pick to trade with. If you bought ethereum when it was 380 dollars just a week ago (not even that long ago) you could have made more profit with it than you could have made with bitcoin while bitcoin went from $13k to $15k at the same time, so not even a period where bitcoin stayed low or anything, we have seen the biggest price of bitcoin since 2018 and we still managed to make more profit with ethereum.

Hence, why I believe it is quite important that people should focus on altcoins but only if they think they are dealing with the right one. If you pick a coin that is bad or not have a future and maxed out, that means you could definitely lose money, but if you pick one that is good and has a future, you could make a lot more profit.

I think only the POW coins will see a rise when ETH goes up as lot of those 4GB cards are going to push their hash to those chains. Their networks will become more secure and there will be increased scarcity for a few. It doesn't necessitate that the price will go up, but it does oppose the price going down if more miners are on it. ICO coins will need advancements to pull them up.

Very True. It is not right time to trade but invest in alt coins now because all good coins are bottomed out now and have good potential to give you huge return once BTC stabilizes above 20K. My choice is XTZ, LTC, Ethereum and Compound coins.

I think have ended for bitcoin raise up and last two days bitcoin back correction and now the best time for trading in altcoin or try trading with bitcoin, I think enough correction for bitcoin from 15,5k$ back down do 14k$ and now moment for re investing again before late seeing bitcoin have the same moment with the last end of 2017. You can try to long now with bitcoin or ethereum because have chance to back on higher price but if you still worry could put order under 420$ for ethereum. I think is most safety when you trying for long at the future and spot exchange market, choose on your hand wait, see or take action to get much profit before bitcoin and altcoin back to higher price again.

My question to people like you is always the same:

If altcoins react to Bitcoin's moves much slower and much weaker and the less popular the altcoin is the less chance it will even be moved by a BTC rally, what makes you think that choosing them over BTC is a better deal?

You can buy a bunch of alts, some of them will end up being scams like bitconnect, some will keep losing value over time and die or become a zombie coin trading at 1% of its ATH like BTK, RUPX and many more. Even if you hit that 10x pump coin the pump will be so fast that you probably won't even catch it. Is it really worth it?

I understand people who have a lot of BTC and want to play a bit on the altcoin market. I don't understand people who don't have Bitcoins and as newcomers chose alts over BTC.

We do have different perspectives and approach with regards to having the red and the bull markets. Others might see red market as a stressful one but that is because they are just seeing the bad side of it and not seeking opportunity along side such negative moment of the market. If you have experience losses on your trades before, that is because you ought to be seeking only the bull market and always neglecting the opportunity that is just in front of your nose. Bitcoin is not the only crypto profitable for trading. Altcoins do also have potentials if you will just be picky on choosing the best and diversify your funds to have an upper hand on the situation. No crypto is perfect for all do have flaws since we are on a fast changing market due to volatility. Also, trading is already risky at first thought and we all do know such. What we need to do is strategize on how we will deal with such to somehow lessen that risk turning it into a profitable opportunity.

It is better to wait for the stable bitcoin price to enter into altcoins, currently the price of bitcoin is still unstable after being able to penetrate $ 16k bitcoin to fall back to $ 15k and make the effect for altcoins not being able to go up to high prices, you should just try bitcoin because bitcoin still dominates more than 70% compared to altcoins. Currently, it is still the moment for bitcoin until bitcoin touches high prices and remains stable for the next few weeks, when bitcoin is stable investors will switch to altcoins so that the dominance of bitcoin can be defeated by altcoins if investors have traded in altcoins.

I think that's good advice though we can't still predict the market even and there's no way we can predict that you will lose. What I'm saying is that since the Btc is increasing we can just focus trading it on BTC/USD rather than BTC/Altcoins since we can really make a good profit with BTC/USD

Probably, the guy meant we should not use Bitcoin for altcoin exchanges. If it is true, then he is right. The best thing we can do now is to wait when Bitcoin reaches its next peak, and then get benefits. Alts-alts trading can be not stopped.

I trade alts and btc at the same time. What I could recommend is trade them independently. Alternative coins have different charts as to bitcoin, they are not the same. Sometimes they correlate sometimes they don't. But more often based on my experience is that they can have direct and indirect relationship at all. At what cases?

If bitcoin keeps on going up while majority of alts are going down means there were just exchange of money inside the crypto space. People are just selling alts to buy bitcoin. Easy as that, in that scenario if you observe that too early, through the use of bitcoin dominance, you can keep reshorting alts as bitcoin keeps pumping.

This is just one part of the cycle of whats happening in the crypto market.

For now, I'm not convinced bullrun is starting yet. What I would like to see is a pumo for both Bitcoin and alts, because that just means new money is coming in in the market. This is what also drives the price in 2017, FOMO. New money coming in.

If there is a big pump in bitcoin, people usually sell off their alts and enter bitcoin to ride the rally and it was a common theme in the past and we should expect the same this time. It is hard to determine how long the price will rally but we will see major sell offs in the altcoin market if the proper rally starts in bitcoin which will break the all time high valuation and then buy back the alts at a later time.

Selling off one's altcoin holding in other to enter the Bitcoin rally still not a wise decision and that's what the OP advise causes it better to start a new trade by buying Bitcoin rather selling one's altcoin holding at a lost price. The best thing to do this moment is to skip altcoin trading for now just like I did while focusing only on BTC.

the most important thing right now is that you have to keep buying altcoins at the lowest price,
or at the support line, if you are able to accumulate altcoins then I am sure you will have a lot of profit later,
just need patience and don't give up.

In the downside wave, the upside waves also penetrate, especially when it hits strong support. Speaking of trade, we can trade and make a profit even when it's bearish trend :)
Professional traders with good TA knowledge, making money will take place everywhere.
And when the wave is stronger, it is more appropriate to place orders on margin trading. We will make a lot of money if Big Short when the price of BTC is at the top.

It is really depending on the altcoins that you will trade, you will obviously lose money if you trade altcoins where in you are against the trend. The general market sentiment is now bullish and if you are still trading altcoin that is bearish then expect that you will lose more money. I only trade altcoins that in uptrend because as the time passing by, it creating higher low and higher highs where its price is keep increasing while it making bases in the chart. If I will choose between trading altcoin and bitcoin right now, I prefer to trade bitcoins because of its market structure where the price is now above multiyear high resistance which means that the trend is really strong and I'm looking forward to buy again because I'm anticipating that there will be a huge breakout that will happen in these following days.

We have to trade based on the state of the market no one can say when the market will be stable or not, but I will choose Bitcoin to trade because Bitcoin is a very good currency in the crypto market. All coins are at the top demand for Bitcoin is also high due to rising prices. In the case of Altcoin will depend on the trader the value of these currencies is much lower as the investment is less. In that case traders may fall into loss bitcoin could not reach a higher place due to low demand.

yes we can do scalping if we want, day trading if want to, trading doesn't depends on people says oh don't buy now your funds will turn into bubble, you are buying at high price or what, but the thing is, it depends on us, yes bitcoin price is high now, so technically it is not the right time to buy, but the thing is scalping is good or arbitraging, but do not hold it for long term during these month, make a day trade instead to avoid sudden dump.

Actually OP gave a good advice.
But any situation will not be able to prevent traders from carrying out their activities. I still enjoy my trading with an altcoin (I tend to do scalping).
As long as you can apply any trading technique that suits the current situation, you can still trade altcoins without any significant risk.

While I completely agree with your sentiment, I am wondering which altcoins are good to invest in. the top coins obviously will have some gains. But then, they also have some bagholders, so it will be more difficult to grow them towards previous highs.

In other words, what will be 'the story' that drives the next altcoin run? I think it will have to do with usecases and real world adoption - but which are the good projects here?

Many of us are following a trend which is to Buy less and sell more. This trend is especially followed by some people who don't have enough knowledge of trading. You will not win always but you have to set your mind to be positive. In the current time, buying Btc will be good for anyone and you can expect it will get more pump in a very short time.

Investing and trading are different things and even though they both involve buying an altcoin and selling an altcoin, the gap between those two actions decides which one you are. If you buy and sell within few hours, you are a trader, if you buy and hold for longer than few months you are an investor.

I would say trading altcoin right now could be risky, you could still make a profit, you could make a lot of profit because it goes down and up a lot and if you buy at down and sell at up you could make much bigger profit. However I would say buying and holding for at least a year a coin like ETH would guarantee you profit and there is nothing better than knowing that your investment will profit you over long period of time, most of us came into crypto world to do exactly that.

What you are trying to warn is that most new traders do not want to follow. Because they are more interested in fomo trade. 

Those who have a good idea about the market and professional traders always try to take advantage of the market. So they can bring out good results in any situation of the market through scalping trade. It is normal to face losses if you do not follow the market trend, most inexperienced traders do not want to follow the market trend so that they cannot control themselves as the market changes.

Buying low and selling high is what traders commonly do and I think it is not classified as a trend  :P, As a trader, I don't want to miss a trading opportunity that's why if I see that when a trend is just starting I'm taking advantage of the situation and try to seize what kind of profit I can get from it. The pair doesn't matter as long as the profit is always there. You can always get profit from altcoin and bitcoin itself, It's just how you do the trading that makes you win from it.

The concept about buying low and selling high is seems easy to execute but in reality it is really hard to identify if it is the final dips or it is the peak of the price. Bitcoin is now in trending where it keeps making HH and HL that are characteristics of an uptrend, for those who are not able to get positions in bitcoin; my advice is you should buy whenever the price makes a breakout because there will be a role reversal where the resistance will become a support and that role reversal is healthy in a trending market. Others can trade alts as long as they can manage the risks where they should lessen their allocation and they should add more allocation in bitcoin.

many experts also say that, if now there is Bitcoin season, not altcoin season,
so we have to hold Bitcoin, but I think, because Altcoin prices are very cheap we should also buy Altcoins, at least accumulate.

Buy altcoin if you have fund instead of bitcoin yes, but he can still buy bitcoin and sell it right away, it all depends on the trader and his patience, there will always be some people that will take this risk, but there are more people now actually that are selling their btc and other altcoin during this Season.

This is fact.. Although I never trade btc against any Alt. I've been trading btc with usd so far. I changed from eth/USD to btc usd.. And it's been good so far..hopefully, It will continue being good.

Yes absolutely right.
Currently seeing the high peak of BTC, i am assuming that we will see 2018 once again.
It's not to far that we will see BTC again in 20k+ USD.
And in this prior time if we trade the altcoins with BTC, then surely we gonna face losses.
Better we need to wait for some moments and give time to the BTC market.
Soon we will get the appropriate time to invest and make money.

Bitcoin is still maintaining the position of pumping that is causing alts and other cryptocurrencies dumping in the exchange market. For you not to experience loss in this season with altcoin and other cryptocurrencies, you have to trade with bitcoin alone, since bitcoin is still pumping in the area of market that is making bitcoin trader to testify the benefits they are experiencing right now when 2020 is coming to an end soon.
The way bitcoin is pumping right now show that other cryptocurrencies are warming up to pump since the rising of bitcoin is reducing them since they came back from pandemic which really make other currency lose value during the process.

Just look at algo then your eyes will be opened

Waiting for altcoin season is coming when bitcoin have stable not down or up and all investor move from bitcoin investment to altcoin, you need waiting for this moment because if bitcoin still up and down suddenly your chance for altcoin is little because will give bad result if you wanna trade with altcoin, when bitcoin dump never try to entry on altcoin exactly will give loss more because altcoin always down after bitcoin down but never give guarantee when bitcoin up altcoin have to higher price. Just when bitcoin have stable and look stay more than few hour you have chance to see altcoin will grow up and many investor looking for altcoin to be their investment. Some time we can't know with bitcoin when stable after have any news make bitcoin suddenly will dump or pump.

So far we are still in profit in the weekly column, sure last night may have been not so great but when you look at it weekly we are still in profit and we could stretch that even further and will be in profit. So all in all I would say it is still profitable to invest into altcoins. Just because you could have made a lot more profit with bitcoin doesn't mean you would have lost with altcoins, you would have still made a profit with altcoins but it would have been less than what you could have with bitcoin.

I personally think that everyone should have a huge part of their investment in bitcoin but I also think we should never be fully out of altcoin world as well, we should have big portion in bitcoin but a small portion in altcoins would be greatly helpful when alts skyrocket as well.

People are generalizing when it comes to altcoins and once they do saw that it doesnt make a move then thats the time they do say that it isnt worth for the risk specially as of this moment.

You can really make out some money with alts if you do know on how to play with it neither if the market is in bullish state, you can still possible utilize those movement and profit with it.

For low cap coins which are usually being hunted for some people then i can say that this is a gamble.You wouldnt know if this one will really get some value or not
but once it did then that will really give much profit but if not then you're ending up on holding shit coins.

Its just a matter on how someone do handle up its alts.

There would be virtually no point to trade BTC with Alts, it's exactly the same thing using your single account. The fact that, you can open multiple positions on a single trading pair is what makes there to be no difference when you trade with Alts.
I'm out here thinking what would be the motive of most persons trading with Alts and all that comes to my mind is, them taking a different position from the previous account, maybe a buy in contrast to sell but in reality, what is gained in one account is lost in the other. So, there really is no point.

As for BTC making Altcoins seem less and less valuable to trade, it's just the way it is. The more volatile, the better.

If the scenario was like that it would probably be easier and I guess, there was nothing wrong if he didn't have a target of quick profits. Something that is the problem is about those who are chasing quick profits so it will not be easy or may not be able to make profits. Trading Alts can not only be paired with BTC, you can still pair it with other coins so that it can still be adjusted according to your abilities.

I also think it is not a good idea to trade altcoins with bitcoin because bitcoin's price is continuously increasing and stable from it's $16,000 price that altcoins might have bad changes in their prices. Others are converting their altcoins into bitcoin because they expect bitcoin to reach it's ATH again. Still, I think it is a little bit dangerous to buy bitcoin today because bitcoin's price is still unpredictable due to its volatility that others might be selling out their bitcoins by the end of November.

Selling your altcoins just to purchase Bitcoin that is now having a high price is not a totally good idea instead, accumulate more altcoins.
If you are not a HODLer you can now use your Bitcoin to purchase altcoins knowing the Bitcoin is surging right now. Who in the right mind will buy a Bitcoin anyway? That would be a total loss though. Just try to remember the "buy low and sell high", now that Bitcoin is expensive all you need to do is to sell while on the other hand alts are now making a slight movement then buy is the right thing to do.

Altcoins may not be dynamic in the previous days however I accept when bitcoin goes on a bull pattern, altcoins will follow so exchanging with altcoins can even now be productive yet yes ensure you have Bitcoin on your property. You will lose exchange will rely upon the ability of the dealer and the interest of the market.

We all know that when the price of Bitcoin goes up, the other altcoins do not go up at that rate. On the other hand, due to the increase in the price of bitcoin, in many cases, the value of altcoins decreases as satoshi due to a non-increase in the value of altcoins, resulting in losses on both sides. So in most cases, it is not profitable to trade with altcoins when the price of bitcoin rises. So it is true that Bitcoin price hike should not be trading in AltCoins these days and you will only lose.

Having more better understanding is very needed in this phase of investment, alts will have it's own bull mostly after bitcoin does, if you really support

the project that you are holding right now  the chance of keep holding may be better than trying to trade it up with lower value, instead better to buy

more and wait when the market start to pull over again and bring much higher interest.

Currently Bitcoin has reached the price of $ 17500, and Bitcoin dominance has also increased to 65%. From the data I have mentioned,
it proves that BTC / USD trading is the best choice right now. And for now it is very risky to trade BTC / ALTS, because indeed many altcoins
prices are dumped. Anyway the Bitcoin movement seems unstoppable, there is a possibility that this year's all-time high price could be reached.

Its a gamble in most cases because not all would really be having that kind of risk management level where they can just accumulate into those coins on where they do
believe that it would really pump in near future or when the market shifted out to altcoins after bitcoin had been done.Its not really that trading alts will really mean up
loss yet this will be talking on less volatility yet majority now is on bitcoin and doesnt focusing on some alts which are mostly on the bottom line excluding those top
alts that we had in the market where volatility and price movement is still present in spite of the market condition at the moment.

The market is in turmoil all the time it is not possible to determine the future on which currency to focus need to trade on the basis of price movement now bitcoin is very volatile prices are going up a lot bitcoin is good for trade and investment. As altcoin is the new currency it has not been able to establish a position like bitcoin in the market everyone is choosing bitcoin to trade in business risk planning is easy.

• If you are a person of having a great time with HODL your Bitcoin for future investment, then I would advise to just stick to your choice and enjoy the profit with your BTC volatile. There is nothing wrong with that and it has been proved that BTC is always going up no matter what , even though there was some problem like huge crash and shit.
• But if you a person like me whose like to maximize your profit through daily trading then there is nothing to miss if you just do few days of trading. While you are holding BTC, you have another income from trading which I think you can't miss that out.

It's kinda stupid to be honest to limit yourself for getting max profit because of just Bitcoin. There are another opportunities you can do like trading and stuff rather than limit yourself by just waiting till ATH without adding your funds through daily trading.

Even though the price of altcoins falls relative to bitcoin, it always has ups and downs and if we grasp that we can still make a profit.
So some good traders can still make great profits when trading altcoin.

True, it doesnt really always mean that you would need to hold because if you can make profit by active trading then why not?
As long it does have price movement then you can utilize those movement for your gains but knowing that active trading isnt
really for everyone or really a very dangerous way of trading yet you are dealing with moving prices. Precise decision making
and proper emotion handling will really be crucial into these times.I dont know why people do keep saying that altcoins are bad
yet you can still make out some money with it.

Trading still continues even there's not much action in altcoin trading today.

The current situation is even a haven for those who are waiting to buy cheap coins. They won't see cheap price for quite some time again if they will miss the opportunity to buy at the current price.

Some surely fill their bags already and now waiting again for the rise of some altcoins which might take time to happen as BTC dominance is showing no signs of slowing down. If we have some spare funds, it's good to consider picking some worthy altcoins today aside from having BTC holdings.

Why need to convert a coins that is showing more dominance nowadays to altcoins that is being so silent ,Bitcoin is now running towards another ATH while altcoin and even the Famous Defi of the past months are now struggling to stay in their feet.

Converting your Bitcoin to altcoin now is Suicide not unless you know some Pump and Dump coins that will be manipulating by Whales so that chance you will be lucky.

Keep holding out Bitcoin for at least 1 whole year again the longest until Bitcoin finally break the last 20,000 value.

Lose our coins was already given here in this field of business in crypto space. The better way we can do is that as long as you know the development of the coins or you know how to trade well, I think there's nothing problem if you buy any of the altcoins even Bitcoin kicking its price in the market. Although, being careful is the number one needed now.

At this moment,
When the % of BTC from the total crypto world has increasing, I think that the best investing right now if invest in ALTcoins!!

BTC is close to its maximum, but other cryptos have to increase around 10X to achieve it maximum...

Now, if you invest in the BTC you need go to 170.000 to have an increase of 10X...

Don't be too general with altcoins. A very few of them are likely to be good after bitcoin's peak has been met or if the cycle goes together with bitcoin's pump.
You trade alts or not, you need to be consolidating while it's too early. The price near to ATH hasn't been reached but what if it overpassed it and surprises us one day, maybe not this year but how about the next years.

Perhaps altcoin trading at this point requires traders with experience in the market, all price movements can be profitable if we know how to buy and sell at the right time.
I was lucky enough to buy P2P coin at 3 sts and sell it at 6 sts, it is even more profitable than holding bitcoin.

That's right, I think it's not wise to invest all assets in bitcoin at this point. We should split our assets and invest in different projects, although that may prevent us from getting the maximum return, it makes it safe.
It's best to never put all your eggs in the same basket

Yeah, pro traders can always use the market in any situation and make profits but the point made in OP is actually valid because trading alts and making profit right now is hard and if you just convert them into Bitcoins and save them you can easily make better profits than you would make with altcoins because the price of Bitcoins is moving at a much higher rate as compared to altcoins.

Smart traders always see how the bitcoin market is behaving and if it is going down they take the opportunity and grab some good altcoins while if the market is going up like it is right now, they just hold their Bitcoins.

Some says trading was different from gambling well for me the two only sounds different but they have same purpose and also has same strategy on how to win in it. At this point is where i can say that it is really a good time to trade bitcoin and rest assured that you may get a profit. This is the time where if ever you are needed money you have that assurance that you may get your expected profit.

It's more on how you understnd the situation, Pro / experienced traders doesn't care what the market are bringing them as they are always finding ways to gain from it, both uptrends and downtrends have their own respective benefits if you know what proper strategy to use, it's always arranged as they have different outlook but have same intention to earned.

Use your experienced that's how it works to avoid making mistakes when dealing with this kind of situations
best to act wisely, buy low and sell high if it's still works with your target alts, rinse and try to accumulate
then wait for the next wave then sell.

For me it is all about perspective, gambling and trading are different to each other in terms of risks, allocation and psychology. My perspective is gambling is riskier than trading because I'm more into trading where I have proven system and I keep consistently making profits while in gambling; I do not have consistent performance and there are times that I experiencing consecutive losses. There are people who are treating trading as gambling because they do not have system wherein, they just buying without any reason. Do not expect to win in trading if you do not have any knowledge about it because the only way that you will win is because of luck not skill if you will keep treating as gambling.

According to my little experience, what happens is the following, while Bitcoin is in a bullish trend, all alts fall because no one wants to miss the movement of Bitcoin, for this reason the best option to buy alts is when:

1.- There is confirmation of the bullish trend.
2.- When Bitcoin makes its first trend correction.

It is the best way to buy because it is when investors want to shelter their money and choose the best alts.

The market is now for bitcoin, same as this there'll be market for altcoins. We don't know which is the ath value of bitcoin for this times bullish trend. We're supposed to make our prediction and go choose the trading. Most of the time once after reaching ath it undergoes correction. During those correction there'll be slight fluctuation and then grows again. That's the right time to trade bitcoin for altcoins.

In the first place, we have no right to stop others to trade altcoins when Bitcoin is in the period of bull run dude.
And aside from that, what do you think in trading, is it you think that as an individuals trader winning is always happen and losing
is not or the price happen in the market is only increasing and decreasing is not? Come on! We are in the field of trading virtual business
in cryptocurrency. So, must be aware for this matter from the very start.

We didn't know how far bitcoin will go. if we are trading altcoin with bitcoin and that will just make us get a big loss caused by when we are trading it and bitcoin price is still increasing a lot and that will be eating our profit gradually. It's better to hold our bitcoin and trade altcoin with stable coin pair to decrease the risk.
The market is still getting hyped.

Thats true, i was expecting good alt season when btc start rising this year and hit above 18000$ till now but alts are not moving as expecting and dumping now, I am holding some Electroneum and waiting since 2 years that may be BTC will start risinig and this can impact on price on etn and other alts as well, but its going against my thinking,. there are many who thinks like me, but thats the matter of fact when btc start rising alts bleeding.

Yeah that is right, when the dominance of the bitcoin is currently going up; it is the best time to trade bitcoins but if the market starting to do a correction then it is the time to trade altcoins because it's dominance is rising wherein a lot of investors are switching into altcoins. Right now I just focusing in bitcoin because it is still have momentum wherein there are still high possibility that it will rise unlike altcoins where there are some that are still stable.

Altcoins may not be dynamic in the previous days yet I accept when bitcoin goes on a bull pattern, altcoins will follow so exchanging with altcoins can at present be productive however yes ensure you have Bitcoin on your property. Bitcoin is more beneficial and favored for exchanging yet we need likewise to be more viable on the grounds that not all the time that Bitcoin worth like something very similar with Altcoins.

When you do saw the dominance is rising up then its really a bad idea to make up trades with alts but for long term hold or price swing kind of strategy
where you do purchase up some alts for some another switching of market then you can  take a shot but you know the risk.

Everything has risk even though some people say that it is a bad idea on to deal with it on this current time but seeing those in reds and
buying or accumulating as much as you can will really give you some advantage thats if the price did really make out some
recovery when people tend to switch to alts market.

Its not a definitely losing state but rather you do make up a gamble because you cant gain anything if you wont take risk.

Actually altcoins are doing pretty good, not all but some of the alts like XRP has gained some serious bull run and there is TRX which is slowly starting to lift so now as the BTC market stablized the other markets are on a swing now. I hope bitcoin just doesn't fall now like 2017 because a drop here can really make things worst not just for the BTC market but altcoin market as well.

Correct we cannot stop anyone from doing anything they want, but would you not stop someone who is trying to suicide? Well, I will at least stop that and similarly OP has a valid point because BTC market is going up so the best option is to invest in BTC and avoid trading altcoins for the time being.

A good trader can just use the market and make profits so I don't agree with any of the myths like don't trade altcoins when the bitcoin market is going up or just hold the bitcoins because trading and investing are two different skills and one cannot overshadow the other. I have seen people making more than 1k profit just using small bankroll and taking advantage of the leverage trading option because they know the bull run is going to continue.

Not all the altcoins are bad either and there is no particular downfall in the altcoin market, yes they might have not matched the bull run that was there in the bitcoin market but each of these markets are separate and no need to compare two different markets and expect hype in one because of the other. There will be time soon when alts will experience a bull run and we will complain abut bitcoin then.

Altcoins is not be dynamic in the previous days however I accept when bitcoin goes on a bull pattern, altcoins will follow so exchanging with altcoins can even now be productive yet yes ensure you have Bitcoin on your property. I don't think it was a last detail for me realizing that Bitcoin's cost will definitely keep its force for eternity. Dumps are as yet inescapable and that workable for Bitcoin to dump in the coming days making the altcoins flood high back once more.

Too bad if the OP doesn't buy Altcoins when the price is at the bottom,
because now altcoins are partying, yes only the top altcoins are partying,
be patient there is still a chance to join the party, buy those that haven't increased!

If the price of currencies goes down a lot there will be other altcoin risks excluding BTC Therefore considering the market you have to buy and hold the currency however if the two trade together there will be risk so BTC is good for both investment and trade. It is possible to benefit by waiting patiently usually I don't trust other altcoins because BTC is a good currency for investing.

Like what everybody says, we should take every opportunity that we have so that we can reap everything that we can take advantage, like last time I bought XRP at 3100 then I sold it at 4000, then I take my profit, I don't want to lose so much when it dips , and I am not prepared for it, I bought another XRP now and wait for another pump maybe today or before the fork on 12th of December.

This is depends on a trader on how he can manage to earn profit when trading in the market. Their is instances to trade an alts with btc and somehow you can gain profit. Others trade with continuously increasing to take the chance to go with the trend. Anyone can do this strategies trading with alts as long he is earning but always remember buying at the dip or buy low and sell at a high price.

I think it was just a few days ago I was actually tempted for the first time since 2017 to "diversify" some of my Bitcoin into altcoins. Almost did too, to be honest. What with ETH going for ATHs and Litecoin and others looking really steady. Then we saw Bitcoin fall, and alts, guess what, fell harder.

Not saying I still won't. It might be about time to put say, 1% of my BTC into an alt I already have. You generally will lose though, as OP says.

Institutional investors already got their profit and they are trying to withdraw their amount. After then Btc will be stable and afterwards altcoins pump will start.

Those who are involved with trading knows this when they should trade or not in Btc pair. If you are afraid to trade on Btc pair then you can convert your Btc to USDT then go for trading with USDT pair.

We all aware about that.it maybe possible for those who are brand new in crypto.not possible for them who are with crypto for long.because each traders already have some tokens what have to sell first, if they wants to follow your technic.if everybody start selling their tokens and convert that with btc or usd, then altcoin market will fall badly then excepted.i think this is the time to buy altcoins with cheap cause btc already hit its ath and start falling down.now holding btc is risky but its okey if anyone hold usdt 

I'm amazed that this person was able to tell BTC will hit its ATH, however, he wass wrong with one thing. Alts are not dumping, some of them actually pumped and followed the bullish run of BTC such as eth and xrp.


 

Actually, I take advantage whenever bitcoin dominates the market. Just like now, the alts are seem to be recovering from the loss it took when bitcoin pumped hard. I usually but altcoins when bitcoin wildly move the market. Almost all altcoins are moving down if there is a significant move in bitcoin. If we are fear in losing money in trading, we don't gain the profit that we want to have. Trading is risky yet paid a lot. If the price of altcoins are too then it is an opportunity not a loss.

I will strongly advise you, if you must try it. Do it caution, because any slightly mistake can cause you alot. Imagine trading your alt into BTC and the price of your alt rises and BTC came down. You can't buy back your Alt, because the volume will be reduced and also due to the rise of the price. By that time, you would have lost some amount of your money that you invested in the Exchange. Let us all be very careful while making that kind of trade.  I think it make more sense when you trade BTC to dollars or ETH. Those are the kind of trade I embark on these days.

If they do not trade altcoins they will never know how to earn in cryptocurrency. Aside from that, doing trade anywhere whether in crypto or in traditional stocks exchange both of them has a high risk involved. Besides, it doesn't matter for me if it is altcoins just for what matter most to me is that as long as it gives me a nice profit I will never stop doing trade anyway.

Mainwhile i notice, bitcoin is still increasing so fast and altcoins are decreasing.so if anyone thinking about exchange bitcoin with others altcoin, then they are wrong even could loss fund during their trade.so op is absolutely right.but public also do trading with altcoins, they are buying altcoins with low price and would  make proofit.so if you would like to be a good trader, you shouldn't afraid about current situation.rather try to learn how to hanle this volatility markets situation

Keep trading with altcoin during have touch support price but never try to entry when altcoin have touch on higher price because could make you loss, I know every one will trade when bitcoin raise up because altcoin allow how bitcoin price. But some time have really know what is the best time for trading altcoin because bitcoin is could not prediction suddenly can up or down and give effect for altcoin price. Just trade when bitcoin have been stable and less dominance to make altcoin get chance back to higher price.

Bitcoin is starting to move up again towards the price of $ 20,000 so avoid trading BTC / Altcoins. Because the price of altcoins starts to
fall if the Bitcoin price goes up, this is something that probably a lot of people know. But don't care about that, because many people still
want the hype that happened to altcoins in 2017 to be repeated. Even though the increase in the price of Bitcoin is now very different from
what happened in 2017. Therefore, the focus of BTC / Fiat trading is what to do if we don't want to lose our capital.

You are absolutely right.bitcoin recently hit its new ath on $48000. If months ago, anyone bought others altcoin by selling bitcoin, then at this moment they are facing huge loss because bitcoin increase around $28000 during last 2months and the growth percentage is much more than others altcoins. Although if anyone bought doge & bnb with bitcoin, then they are in profit now

Your suggestion is good but it works only when BTC is either Bullish or Bearish and BTC Dominance Index is higher ( more than 70%) but When BTC is stable and BTC Dominance Index is around 60% then it is good opportunity to entry in alts  (Top 20 on coinmarektcap except XRP) and sometimes traders book huge profit during alts Rally. During the rally alts also show good performance not only against stable coins but also against BTC

https://i.imgur.com/zIkLFuE.png

https://cryptoguidepro.com/bitcoin-btc-dominance-index-meaning/

I don't know if people think like that, but I find it effective when the market is sideways or in a downtrend. And in the uptrend of the market just hold, that's the way I have been doing it for many years and I find it very reasonable. Once you are sure it will increase, just wait until the season comes to the point that you think is reasonable.

So what you can say now ? if people trade their Altcoins that day for Bitcoin then for sure in February this year their Funds already climbs up more than 3 folds right?
Even if the alts are dumping it is better to risk when Bitcoin is climbing because for sure ATH is more to come .
look how many ATH bitcoin Did from November 2020 as the time of posting this?
anyway Congrats to those who did not listen to you , and lucky for me because i did not see this post back then .

Obviously it is not for many people, only a few understand and they have ways to optimize transactions for maximum return during the growth. But I must reiterate that not everyone is capable of doing this, this stage for me is hold.

its depends on our pupose mate, if we want to collect more bitcoin i think trade altcoins in bitcoin pairs is the best idea,
because bitcoin price could grow more in this year my friend
regards

actually, it depends on our belief in the market.
Of course, some people have left the market because they think that they are already getting a lot of benefits with BTC. although there will be more increases, I think there are many people who may have adopted more altcoins than BTC at this time.
in a moment we will see a decline in the dominance of bitcoin in the market. and it is the momentum for altcoins to start a new season. keep altcoins for the year, we could see a higher pump.

I guess to lose is not good to conclude after seeing downfall in crypto market. We all know from the start that the value itself is unstable, so to see downfall or increase of value is normal. Just believe in yourself by monitoring and waiting positively because there is always a right time in all.

I believe that you need to have enough experience to be able to trade Bitcoin with other altcoins in a pair. I only use stablecoins in trading pairs all the time and this gives me less anxiety and difficulty. I believe that This is the right decision, since it not only gives its results, but other users of the cryptocurrency always speak positively about it.

Everyone has their own tactics when it comes to trading on the crypto markets, and each has different advantages and disadvantages.
Trading altcoin in bitcoin seems quite complicated but given the current market situation you will have higher profits if you succeed in increasing your number of Btc.

If you have some altcoins sitting around then it is fine if you trade them for BTC. I had been holding some dogecoin and litecoin for a while that I used for gambling. After the recent dogecoin pumps I decided to just exchange everything for bitcoin and made a nice profit.

even though this time what will be highlighted is the BTC pair, because it has been a long time since 2018 the BTC pair is still sleeping,
if pair btc wake up we will see an increase as experienced by DOGE, DOGE has started well, and wait until other coins follow, this is an opportunity,
so why be afraid? the BTC pair for me is still very cheap and not the time to sell

Maybe you want to be completely safe, but it turns out that bitcoin is now getting crazy about its price. maintain ownership of bitcoin
gives a lot of advantages to those who hold it until now. For that is actually the diversification of bitcoin and altcoins it is good too,
because behind the volatility of crypto will provide an advantage. Many altcoins pump nowadays and should not miss this opportunity,
to achieve maximum profit.

Most people understand that strong BTC does not mean that altcoin will explode, when altcoin explodes, BTC price is definitely high.  This situation is an almost absolute theory that I have been following for a long time.  There are almost no exceptions to these pair trading scenarios.  except, the fact that Doge had blown out of bitcoin's interest surprised me and didn't even understand Elon Musk's motive behind it that made it fall into that vortex.  It is best to hold the BTC a little more time to refer to the expansion from the alt volume before embedding the alt / btc pair.

It all depends on what you believe in the future of the projects, trading anything you want with anything you want is still alright as long as you think the project you invest into will go up. BNB was just 40 bucks 2 months ago and it has peaked at 340 dollars, did bitcoin increase like that during the last 2 months? Of course not, from last march to this march it has increased from 4k levels to max 60k levels recently and that was one year, if you invested that it would be great but if you wanted the last 2 months BNB was better.

So, that means when you get in and what you get in matters, sometimes bitcoin goes up more and sometimes other coins go up more, recently chilliz went up like 5x in a week, you think bitcoin was better during that period? It was 5x in a week, nothing can top that easily unless it is a pump. Which is why bitcoin or altcoin, it all depends on what it does.

for me thats unreasonable reason, because many people trade altcoins with bitcoin to collect more bitcoin buddy
i think you should know about that

Agree, no need to tell to the traders what to do because they are aware of the possible outcomes and risks. Besides, for me this is not the best time to do tradings a lot because most the alts are dumping and btc are pumping.

I'm actuay earning profit trading alts. I can't imagine how bad you are as a trader. Just kidding.  ;D
Well, you have a point but some experienced traders may not always agree to you because as far as I know there is a much higher profit trading alts. And it is simply not for you say or suggest what they should trade, because different people have different market analysis on how they make profit.

- Seriously, there's nothing wrong with both of these opinions but here, the author is weighing the risks in the investment and making a safe suggestion for the participant, the fact is that you are right that many people can get more bitcoin with altcoin and bitcoin trading pairs but the rising value of bitcoin is risky for this strategy, bitcoin will almost deplete the capital in altcoins and force them to decrease in price. Standing in the opposite direction, the USD value will still increase even as the bitcoin and altcoin pair decline, USD is proportional to the value of bitcoin and this is the advantage we should use

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It's just because he posted that on November 2020, but since the beginning of the year many altcoins are pumping. And you don't have to trade to make profits in bitcoin, you just need to hold some altcoins, they have literally crushed Bitcoin. The dilemma is now to be able to convert them in Bitcoin or in fiat at the highest price before a dump.

Also, I think that this is not the best time to convert altcoins to BTC, but in my opinion you should not do it, because everything indicates that the Bitcoin price will now stabilize and the prices of altcoins will start to rise. So in my opinion there is a greater chance that you will earn more by keeping altcoins.

I think its all approximately abilities and the determination of altcoins but we moreover cant lament the dominance of Bitcoin.As Bitcoin Dominance proceeds to pump,It is also possible to lead the losses.if we talking of exchanging, there are a few altcoins that have futures advertise, where you'll short them or offering tall, at that point buying moo, which you'll get benefits by that kind of exchanging,may be in short term.