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So here is an uncensored version of the "BetKing.io Relaunch" thread that has been started by serial scammer Dean Nolan because he is deleting posts that are warning potential victims about how serial scammer Dean Nolan stole millions from investors starting from the 2017 ICO and all the way up to when he stole the final balance of the bankroll and blamed it on an imaginary hack  ::)

Members can post here freely without wondering whether posts will be deleted in the way serial scammer Dean Nolan is doing in his censored thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287374.0

Everyone here is advised to avoid dealing with serial scammer Dean Nolan and to stay well away from anything related to betking


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This is a self-moderated thread because when serial scammer Dean Nolan or his sock-puppets posts propaganda here all related posts will be deleted as soon as I become aware of them

Just saying-
Betking had partnership with bitsler which is so far a trusted gambling site and had refund some amounts through that partnership. This statement doesn’t necessarily means I'm vouching anyone.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.0

i've heard this partnership before but wouldn't that be a problem for bitsler to have partnership before from a scammer? also i looked at the thread and i think the betking is really deleting some post on the thread.

I'll be dumbfounded if someone(apart from the investor he already has. at least according to him) actually decided to invest on him again. it is hard to believe anything he says even when he already refunded some money(according to RaptarX) to the victims from the previous incident.

anyway, if anyone is interested here are the current deleted post on his thread
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5554/55540928.html -LoyceV
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5554/55541385.html -Moonmanmun
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5554/55541478.html -RHavar
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5554/55541713.html -LFC_Bitcoin
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5554/55543579.html -Yogee
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5554/55544403.html -RichGang
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5554/55545015.html -yayayo
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5554/55545368.html -LoyceV

Thank you for bringing this information to your attention. I am sure that we can save many potential victims from doing business with this company. They will probably keep trying.
But a good initiative to bring this to the attention. I also don't think that they suddenly have good intentions.

I did not noticed that the thread he recently opened up was self-moderated, revisiting it, there's already have plenty of deleted posts from different users.
LOL, self-moderating a topic to delete criticisms is a sign of potential fraud, we know he already has bunch of negative feedbacks, still self-moderated their relaunch thread, saying they will be a goody company after committing big fraud before. Beware.

While Dean is quick to play it off as "oh sorry, we got hacked. bad luck". For anyone who digs deeper into the story, you will see Dean systematically scammed anyone who ever trusted or worked with him. And not only that, he did it over the course of months (i.e. first he tried scamming in private and not paying licensing fees, then weeks/days he scammed his ICO investors weeks/months later he scammed bankroll investors and then players.

There is simply no charitable explanation that explains Deans behavior.



Bitsler just said: "We're going to give up to $200 to up 250 people who got scammed on BetKing".

It was kind of a smart plan.

a) Bitsler won by only needing to $50k and got some free publicity/marketing/PR
b) BetKing users won by getting some free money
c) BetKing won because it made it look like Dean is being honest, while spending nothing

So do you really believe 230 ex-betking players that had a balance on their accounts when the website was closed by serial scammer Dean Nolan (after he stole the bankroll funds) all received $200 from Bitsler?

Without doubting Bitsler depositing $200 in 230 newly created Bitlser accounts which serial scammer Dean Nolan vouched for by saying to Bitsler "yes this account was operated by an ex-betking player please deposit $200 in that account" - where is the evidence that all 230 of those accounts were real ex-betking players? Where are the audits? There is zero evidence therefore it is possible that nearly all 230 newly created Bitsler accounts via an affiliate link from serial scammer Dean Nolan were in fact fake and were created with the intention of the serial scammer pocketing the cash himself.

We all remember looking the number of online visitors on the betking website in the days prior to serial scammer stealing the bankroll and shutting the website down, there were hardly 6 or 7 online at any given point and that is being generous so whereas I do believe Bitsler deposited $200 in 230 newly created Bitsler accounts with affiliate links and confirmations from serial scammer Dean Nolan, I do not believe that the majority of the $46,000 (230 x $200) went to actual victims of the betking scam I prefer to believe it far more probable that the overwhelming majority of the $46,000 went directly in to the pocket of serial scammer Dean Nolan.

And it is for this reason that Dean had the audacity to launch the casino again despite everything that happened. He probably thinks "okay, I've shown some goodwill now. Maybe bitcointalk gamblers can forgive me and entrust their money again".

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I don't think Bitsler thought of him making a come back when they agreed to help the victims. That's just Dean taking advantage of the opportunity.

Yes serial scammer Dean Nolan has been busy deleting posts in the self-moderated thread he created in order to steal more money from innocent and gullible people who might make the mistake of believing the lies he is continuously churning out. He seems to think he can brush aside the past where he stole $millions in 2017 from the ICO and continued to steal until he closed the website down after stealing the final amount of the bankroll and blamed it on a hack that he never reported to the police  ::)

At the moment there are 3 topics around this site. Will be a hassle to keep up. Fortunately, as long as everyone continues to post, others can be warned so that this Dean cannot strike again.
Without this forum, he would no doubt make many more victims. He doesn't seem to really want to work on his reputation either.

That number now stands at 9 posts deleted from 8 different users so it is clear serial scammer Dean Nolan has been busy trying to stifle debate in that self-moderated thread and he is trying to fool more innocent gullible users in to investing who will no doubt then become new victims of the latest betking scam.

I think there's no partnership made and it's just a generous act and marketing strategy for bitsler to be known more for what action they did. But this act has been taken advantage by the betking owner and he think that users here settled the issue and forgot how wrecked he is. Much better not to trust that site anymore and we should avoid it.

I made a comment in his new thread & he deleted it. Any company that uses a self moderated thread is not to be trusted. If you have nothing to hide why censor people?

Good work JollyGood, people need to be well aware of Dean Nolan & how he goes about business (if you call it that). He obviously had a nice slice of scam pie & he’s come back for another.

Lets go back into that partnership thread that you've been talking: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241045.0 . Yes, it does mention about Bitsler and i dont know if there are really
people who had get paid into those Betking users in the past yet you wouldnt even see a single one of them that do prove out that they really did it. Somewhat kind of promotion?
Bitsler wont really be that dumb though on using up Betking to be part of it and question boggle up into my mind on why Bitsler is the one who managed to make up some refund?
Now that Betking is tending to have some relaunch, i dont know on why he do still believe that he can really able to stand up in spite of the lots of issues that he's facing and
left unresolved.

That means that he's not open for criticism and want to censor all things that can give them a bad flags. A good thing this thread has been created so that people can talk about the reputation and the past happenings toward betking.

And seems Betking is using the past action made by bitsler that's why new users should be careful for that and always look for the feedback as valid.

If youre thinking about making a deposit here, you should consider thinking twice.

Much more so on a gambling thread they should not moderate their official thread, or members that has issues on their website will just go straight in the scam section and  create thread there, Betking has no transparency and they have not yet resolve their issues, this thread will generate more awareness and comments than Betking official thread.

The only reason why serial scammer Dean Nolan is back in this forum is because he is probably penniless and needs to find new victims.

I do not believe for a second the nonsense about how 230 ex-betking players (in other words victims that he himself stole from) received $200 from Bitsler. Yes Bitsler probably paid $200 in to the newly created Bitsler accounts of 230 sign-ups via an affiliate link but by far the majority of those new sign-ups were simply created by serial scammer Dean Nolan in order to pocket the cash himself.

In the real world he is probably scraping the barrel and rummaging through the gutter and he needs money fast otherwise he would have kept a low profile.

This scammas Betking abandoned his coin after the ICO. May 1000$ investment that time turns into penny real quick after 2 months buying BKB token during ICO. He list his token on random shit exchange and never improved his casino. His offers buy back on incredibly low price without volume at that time. Seeing this thread now bring back all the memories of my investment stupidity that time.  >:(

I also thought they did a good deed by partnering with bitsler but to be honest JollyGood is right in his stance because if a site scams once there is no reason to believe that they won't scam in future and they scammed huge amounts. I would NEVER play at betking no matter if they come again and would recommend everyone to stay away from it. Dean Nolan messed things up and scammed a huge huge amount and if you play there now you are risking your money for no reason.

Regardless of what intentions Bitsler has they should never have allowed serial scammer Dean Nolan an opportunity to get his hands on even 1 cent of that 230 x $200 ($46,000) but there is no way for anybody to know how many of those alleged 230 betking victims were real people and how much money went in to the dirty pockets of serial scammer Dean Nolan



Now serial scammer Dean Nolan has used censorship to delete 15 posts from 11 users ::)



That means 11 users in his opinion have no voice in that thread he is using to promote his next scam. I never posted there and will not allow him the opportunity to delete my posts therefore I created this rival thread here: BetKing.io Relaunch (uncensored betking-scam thread) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287553.0

It is obvious that they are not back because they want to make it back for everyone and they want to help everyone and get a better reputation and so forth, it is quite obvious that they just want to get back so they could make more profit. Would Dean say no to a situation where he makes so much money with betking that he repays everyone and profits 10x over that? Sure who wouldn't but the reality is that he is not making that money back and that is why I think the only reason why they are trying to get back right now is to make some more.

If I know him even just a bit, he spent most of the money he stole and had to pay some people off for their silence, so now he is running out of money and he needs to scam some more to keep going which will cost him some more money aka the relaunch and maybe few repayments to make it look legit.

The owner see the rising business on casino here that's why he slowly try to comeback to earn some profits again here but sad for him he cannot do a good comeback since for the reputation he got and continuous criticism by the people who know how bad their reputation is they he will struggle here. Hopefully all users will read and make those feedback valid to avoid the another series of scamming of betking.

There is definitely something off with the timing of serial scammer Dean Nolan making a comeback on this forum, the price of Bitcoin is $15K+ so that must have played a part in his thought process. I think the money he scammed and pocketed from the very bad deal Bitsler did with him has probably given him more ideas and he is still trying to scam more innocent and gullible investors after already stealing around $4.5 million from the 2017 betking ICO and subsequent tokens.

Serial scammer Dean Nolan is a prime example of how scamming and greed can cause a massive downfall. Primedice, Bitsler, Stake, Bustabit, Bustadice and several others have occupied all the main spaces for years so there never as any space for betking in 2017 as all its users had moved on to other websites and the 2017 ICO was designed with the specific purpose of serial scammer Dean Nolan pocketing as much of the cash as possible for himself.

The lowest of the low point in all his scamming had to with him stealing around 50 BTC in October 2019 which at the time was worth around $400,000 and he closed the website that had very little traffic and betting going on anyway and then he blamed it on a hack that never took place and pocketed it all for himself.

Serial scammer Dean Nolan cannot be trusted even with 1 cent let alone bankroll funds and other funding.

In the self-moderated betking relaunch thread serial scammer Dean Nolan has already deleted 18 posts from 13 users and he did it all in a bid silence those that are asking difficult questions for him to answer or warning innocent and gullible potential investors to stay away.

You're critical of someone else having a moderated thread ... by having your own moderated thread?  How does that help?  You are only going to stifle those you are critical of, or, their supporters.  If I can make a suggestion - Your thread would be better suited if it were not moderated and a frank, but respectful discussion occurred.

It is simple, I have this in the small print of the OP in this thread: "This is a self-moderated thread because when serial scammer Dean Nolan or his sock-puppets posts propaganda here all related posts will be deleted as soon as I become aware of them"

The header shows I have deleted 2 posts from 1 user (and that is serial scammer Dean Nolan), I think I have given him other threads created by me to post his lies in so this one is where he should not have a voice.

I remember the time that betking has a wager contest and I was on the first place with few hours left before it ends and the scammer cancels the promotion like nothing happened. I know they have the right to do that but I've never seen casinos actually did stop their contest/promotion specially if it is few hours before the end time

Oh yeah, that was funny. Dean raged against people "abusing" the wagering contest by adjusting their wagering in response to the competition. And Dean didn't just cancel the promotion, he literally rolled back all bets. The guy is a certifiable nut job   ;D

Thank you for your support LFC_Bitcoin, as you can see some of us have really tried hard to ensure we bring scams and scammers to the attention of forum in the hope of saving users from becoming victims. Sadly it is not possible to protect all users as some do slip through the next we must try our best to highlight these and all types of scams as much as we can.

Serial scammer Dean Nolan is deleting posts to ensure the only narrative that remains is his and he is trying to stick to the "I did nothing wrong" line just so he can try to scam more people...  ::)

Does anybody have news about what is going on with serial scammer Dean Nolan and his betking website? He did mention in a post somewhere that he intended to re-launch the scam website before the end of the year 2020.

Why would Bitsler invole and participate in such practices? I don't think Bitsler has a bad name at all.
Collaborating with Betking/Dean Nolan would only damage your image.

I think that was from before I read a thread here about their partnership with Dean Nolan but I think that was from before and Bitsler now is doing good and now they have a sports betting on their website.

You may be right, but the problem with this kind of thing remains that for the general public the name will always stick to their website.
They may not have been able to do anything about that at the time, but users and customers are very critical, and if they are suspicious they will not create an account.

Basing up on their confirmation post.This isnt really a partnership but rather a show of appreciation of Baryom to Betking owner Dean.

"In the same spirit, we prefer to invest in promotions for our players and for the amazing community that always supported us instead of big communication campaigns. Even though online cryptocurrency casinos are all competitors by default, we always try to respect them as long as they respect their users and are fair. We never really knew what happened when Betking was closed except that many players were not able to get their balances back. However, we still try to be aware of what's happening in this community and we noticed after a long time that Dean is still here trying to payback players and investors of his site. For me, it's at the very least a sign of goodwill from him, so when we found an opportunity to help out the players still waiting to receive their balances as well as promoting Bitsler, we thought that it could be a good opportunity for everybody to benefit from."

Getting it at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1268718.msg54234856#msg54234856

You would eventually able to understand that this isnt totally talking about tie-ups but rather seeing this as some sort of appreciation of Bitsler to Betking and a part of promotion on to the site itself..
They wont really be messing out their reputation just because of this action but you would really be having that kind of question in mind.

Yes that was the Christmas wager, he oversold himself on that and realised he would not able to cover inevitable losses so blamed it on cheating and decided to steal the winnings from game players.

I think that scam cost victims around 20 BTC but I cannot be sure.

Your post is incoherent and contradictory, maybe you can try again so others can understand.


You are right Bitsler does not have a bad name at all but they probably calculated their image would not be hit bad because they showed themselves to be helping give payments to betking victims by giving the funds to the betking serial scammer  and entrusting him to hand over the funds to the victims he created. Strange why they would do that


Bitlser have always been doing well but I thinl they fell in to the trap laid out by serial scammer Dean Nolan because he obviously oversold the information an story to Bitsler and they accepted it thinking they could spend $200 for each victim that betking has and that those victims would end up spending more than the $200 and they would make new customers BUT it is clear Bitsler made a mistake. Their overwhelming error was to believe everything serial scammer Dean Nolan said without even making an audit or checking for evidence.


betking.io will always be remembered a scam website that could have conquered most other casinos but the greed and timing of returning the bankroll and having the ICO in 2017 in order for serial cammer DEan Nolan to get rich by pocketing the cash will be remembered as the betking scam.


Before the deal was announced but after it was agreed with a cooling off period, Bitsler should have announced they were about to go ahead with this deal and then would have seen the public outrage towards it. In the end nobody knows how many of $200 in Bitcoin were ever released to real victims of betking and how many were released to fake accounts set up by serial scammer Dean Nolan to pocket the cash for himself.

This deal was not about Bitsler helping victims of the betking scam because Bitsler could have done it in other ways. The explanation given by Bitsler where they justified their deal with betking was nothing more than a PR disaster. Who actually believes the line "we noticed after a long time that Dean is still here trying to payback players and investors of his site. For me, it's at the very least a sign of goodwill from him, so when we found an opportunity to help out the players still waiting to receive their balances as well as promoting Bitsler, we thought that it could be a good opportunity for everybody to benefit from." ?

Bitsler effectively handed control of $200 x 250 players to serial scammer Dean Nolan. Bitsler have no evidence that any of the $50,000 would have gone to the victims.

How many of you out there would give donations in the hand of a burglar that broke in to the homes and stole belongings from innocent victms? Would you not prefer to donate directly to the victims? If the burglar was really reformed surely he would have no objections to giving the email addresses and tx ids to prove they were really his victims so the donors could help them directly.

Bitsler made a huge PR blunder with this so-called deal.

The warning scam for BetKing has been documented at least once before. It seems that many people in this community is trying to bring to light the wrongdoings of scammers. And not only that but BetKing seems to be one of the most prolific ones out there - what a nuisance  :-X

For some time the website showed "Relaunching April 2021" but now the announcement shows it is relaunching in May 2021.




A warning to you all, keep away from betking.io otherwise it is highly probable you will never see you deposited funds or winnings. Please keep away from betking.io when the website is relaunched.

It is back officially now, I received an email about the come back yesterday. I tried to access the website and it is indeed working. I have to say that Dean is forcing himself to make it come back with very bad effort (I mean to say the website UI), it is their worst absolutely. I'm not really sure what is his main purpose, it is the 2nd time of coming back if I remember it correctly. For sure, it is not worth the risk to play in betking due to its bad reputation for what they have done in the past.

Majority wont really care that much in the UI because people would always mind of about its reputation that it had. Wasnt expecting that they would really comeback and i havent receive any mail in regards to that and thanks for some heads up and lets see on what other people do see about this comeback.

I cant really blame out people to have these impression since it would really be basing up on what they had done.As long they wouldnt able to remove those issues then it would really change a thing.

Betking does really have bad reputation out of this forum.

I'm imagine how many people lose their money again

The website UI really is bad, it makes it look like a desperate attempt by him at trying to pocket more cash. I realised from a post in a different thread about betking that the website is now up and running again. Why on earth would anybody invest in betking when there are other options out there?

I think maybe this is his final/last/ultimate attempt at trying to pocket freebie crypto from gullible investors, I just cannot see it any other way.

After so many scams and stories, I don't think anyone should ever trust betking ever but if people deposit and get scammed, I think they deserve to lose money, sorry to say that.

I think I got an email from them about the re-launch and immediately I blocked them because I don't even want those scammers to have my email id.

Anyways thanks Jolly for making everyone aware of the scam and please continue doing it, might sound strange to some but a lot of people fall for these scams as 1xb*t has managed to scam people despite having so many warnings against them here.

This is what i do like with OP that he never get tired on making updates and relevant informations posted whenever those known scam sites do make out some move and just like yours on where once my trust is broken then theres no way that i could trust them up on second time around.They might relaunch but the trust of community isnt something that you can just easily fixed and also with new players then they should at least make out some research first because if you do eventually aware on past issues and complaints then you would be saving up yourself into possible scams or problems if ever you do tend
to deal with Betking again. I dont know on what motivated them to relaunch as if theres nothing happened.

They seem to not care about their reputation of being a scammer in this forum because they seem to be doing their operations without a problem. To every newbie who sees this post, best to avoid BetKing and spread the word about their prolific scamming behavior to raise awareness.

You'll probably find that the owner/operators of that website are subscribing to the "any publicity" (be it good, bad, or indifferent) is good publicity as it keeps the brand name in the public's mind front and centre.

Let us all hope no more gullible people fall in to his trap of fake investment in to the website otherwise they will end up losing all their money.

I think it is fairly safe to say ALL people investing in betking.io will end up losing ALL their funds.

Thank you for your kind words, it is very important that forum members post about any scam as soon as they become aware of it. Sadly it is not strange but very common for a lot people to fall in to these types of traps and scams so we all have a responsibility to make others aware.

As mentioned above we all have a responsibilty to try to protect each from scammers, especially trying to keep newbies safe.

Even if they hitch on the different types of publicity, it doesn't matter because the bad and indifferent ones are only going for short-term gain and nothing in-between.

But as the reputation of this site already got stint from their pass doings well I don't think that they will be successfully launch again even outside of this forum. For sure the owner will be haunt by their past victims and also people are smart nowadays one google searching is enough for them to be expose and it could upset people who want to play at their site if they want to relaunch.

If we don't spread the word about this people, I am pretty sure that we will probably see more people getting scammed by this website. I am doing my part by telling it to my friends and hopefully they help me spread the word.

That's not surprising, given how they are still doing great for a site with such a bad reputation. But I don't think that we have to worry about it though as any bad publicity in this world, the fame and recognition it brings is only short lived.

Bad publicity will never work to promote a casino or anything where money involves since I believe people are smart not to go with them since its really bad  decision to choose to play at them eventhough we know how bad this  site is. There are so many players has been scammed by the owner of this casino so expect bad publicity can help  them stop there operations. I hope there's no people will believe on  their public stint again.

Betking is relaunched again?
Few months ago they were teamed up with a casino namely vervecasino, then vervecasino turned into scam few days after that.
It is now relaunched and open a bankroll investment, it seems that the owner is still looking for more money.
Will dean create a new ANN thread for this relaunch? I doubt it to be honest because no one in this forum will be interested to play.
Beware guys, we are warned many times already about betking. 

Bumped into this thread and it reminded me a couple of weeks ago I received following email from support@betking.io

https://i.postimg.cc/5tdXhjnQ/Immagine.png

Seems like Dean is at it again

There are no harsh words in saying that they deserve to loose because if you have been warned by so many people not to play or invest your money into scam projects but still you ignore all of them and still try to be over smart then you definitely deserve to loose in that case.There are past scam accusations against them and even if they comeback with bad interface they will not have many victims this time expect who are new to crypto gambling sites and those who knows about them still open a account to wager on this casino.You can read reviews about them and only paid ones will praise them rest all ratings and reviews are of scam site and withdrawal not processed etc.Just stay away from them.

And now He intended to have some crowdfund for said dice game? Thats a possible double way of scamming out users and same goes for investors.

Dont know on whats up into his mind but he do really actually believe that everyone would be trusting him once again after all he had done in the past or on where this site is involved on?

If they wont really make out some simple research then for sure they would really fall into such trap.
Typing out "Betking scam" on search bar wont really cost you an arm and leg.

If they choose to ignore and decide to play at that casino well its the most foolish decision they made on their life and if they tell they didn't know well maybe thats a lesson that they need to learn since if they've just research the background of the casino they want to play then for sure they will be save if the one they are interested on have bad reputation. For now its good to have discussion like this since most provably this could save newbie if they read the whole discussion on how betking scam their users.

Haven't been paying too much attention since the site appears to be a ghost town, but not hard to find more shadiness.  Guess he has another token going around, and it loosk like anyone with some crypto can just sign a message and be part of the bankroll only being required to send 10%...

https://i.snipboard.io/frzNWw.jpg

https://i.snipboard.io/iU1aFr.jpg

Oh wow, I think that conclusively proves Dean hasn't changed his ways.  ;D I almost wonder if he's just trolling, as surely he knows it's pretty hard to scam people multiple times, he might be a scammer but he's not an idiot

Not an idiot but the actions that he is currently do make him look like that.He might not be an idiot but scamming out people again wouldnt really be that easy specially if already had that scammy past.

Requiring another 10% of deposit? Dont know on where the do really get that kind of confidence that people would deposit a dime.

I can really see out the desperation.

What a crazy idea from Dean now... well, he has done a similar thing before, right? Going around and looking for investments, making some crowdfunded bankrolls... As Rhavar said, Dean hasn't changed a bit!

He did scam people in the past, and he will probably scam people again! He locked his threads here, and said he is living for good! He will try to find new people who don't know him and what he did in the past... sadly, but we can't do a lot about it!

Twitchy thanks for the info about the new actions of an old scammer! Will be interesting to follow what will happen next with the crazy BetKing story!

That is what we all need to do to ensure we minimise the number the number of potential victims that betking.io will generate. Like you said, we all have to spread the word...

I WAS surprise to see him back up. i can assure you he is gonna launch another scam

Sadly it seems the relaunch of the dead dinosaur scam known as betking.io will create a new set of victims.

What a low-life serial scammer Dean Nolan is. I think he will probably fake another hack that will result in the theft of the bankroll... again...

After a brief look I noticed their live chat is abysmal as the rest of the layout including the plug-in affiliate games.

The end of objective of the whole relaunch drama is obvious, it is for serial scammer Dean Nolan to get rich quick again off the back of game players and investors who do not know what they are getting themselves in to but are there any reports from those using the website about what else going on there such as with deposits and withdrawals?

Bumping this topic since Betking.io back with Brand new account and start signature campaign self moderated thread here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5353071.0

I hope people will think twice before joining that's campaign, remember in the pasti they was scam many investors with their shit ICO.

Flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2809

Wow.  That's pretty bold.  What good can Dean possibly think comes from this?

Supported the flag, they get the idea of relaunching their gambling site and launching a bounty campaign from another scam gambling site, we have a bad trend right now, scam gambling sites getting a relaunch of their gambling site and also launching their signature campaign, 1XBIT started this, now Betking I wonder is there a next scam gambling site to follow.

he is worst than before, he disabled his telegram group, site chat etc. so if you have issues , u just have to talk to him directly and he can scam your ass off lol.
he also abruptly stopped the promotions he was using to lure players. presently, u cant see all bets, you only see high rollers with green, that way new guys will be lured to the site thinking its easy to win. this scammer should be stopped

Scammers in the crypto world don't really fear the usual obstacles primarily due to the anonymity factor which is why I don't find this surprising at all. He is simply trying to scam more gamblers by copying 1xbit's approach.

Observed the same myself. This scammer can only get screwed as long as gamblers stop visiting his site, but the idiots who joined the signature campaign for a quick buck are helping his business stay afloat.

Yeah Dean removed many things since my last visit few weeks ago including the chat (both on site and telegram), the staking page where players check their staked currency, no more Races (wagering contest), and now the site looks like a dead site.
Dean launched signature campaign sometime ago, I guess there were not enough active players since the relaunch except some high rollers who dominated the Races.

No way for players to communicate anymore.

No more attempted proof of funds.

According to their live bets tab, the last bet was 3 days ago.

Nothing unique about Betking anymore.  Shitloads of shitty third party games.  Looks a lot like all those dime a dozen softswiss/bgaming casinos did 3-4 years ago.

It's harder to find their original dice than it is to find 'Rocket Dice' which was known as 'Pocket Dice' until 2017 when it became clear they didn't have the funds to cover player deposits and they exit scammed. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703265.msg19976330#msg19976330)
 
https://i.snipboard.io/iFULZ5.jpg
https://i.snipboard.io/Gj2eqR.jpg 

Scammy 100% welcome bonuses:
- The maximum be amount while playing with bonus funds is $2. Players betting over this amount will have their bonus funds and winnings forfeit.
- If you try to withdraw before the bonus funds have met the wager requirement then the bonus funds and any winnings will be forfeit.

I could go on, but what's the point.  Dean failed again.

Hi Dean.

Ironically, these are only marginally more scammy than other bonus terms I've seen: lowest I remember was a maximum bet of $6 or so.

Crazy to include that, though. Why not just rugpull if they complete the bonus instead of doing the opposite of attracting players?

All seems to be playing out and unfolding the manner in which I thought it would but serial scammer is playing this scam out faster than I thought. Maybe he will exit-scam sooner rather than later because most of the hallmarks are already there.

He was supposed to use USD$ millions from the 2017 ICO to develop new games but returned back with the same old UI based nonsense and the website was obviously going to collapse, then he added 3rd party plugins before he exit-scammed last time. Here he is laying the foundation to do it again.

I really hope investors and game players do not lose out with significant losses when serial scammer Dean Nolan uses his betking.io website to scam gullible people again.

Flag not supported at this point given:

The terms of creating Flags is quite clear in that the thread cannot be a self moderated one (this thread is self moderated) and the thread cannot be locked.   You did not create the thread, therefore, you cannot guarantee that the thread won't ever be locked.

The flag is linked to this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.0), which isn't self moderated or locked, and while the thread was created by JollyGood and the flag by Jawhead, Jollygood supported the flag and I'm sure he will agree not to lock the thread if it means keeping the flag valid.

I don't see any reason for you to oppose support for the flag.

The Flag wasn't created correctly.

As you yourself point out, the flag creator is not the one who created the thread.  Therefore it can be locked without intervention by the flag creator.  The OP of the thread you pointed me in the direction of has no flags listed, so no Flags supported.

Okay?

Deciding not to support the flag is one thing, but you're opposing support for it which only serves to give credibility to the scammer.

And besides, I don't see any issue with creating a flag that references a thread that you didn't create - there's no reason to believe Jollygood will lock the thread, and if he does the flag can be removed - we don't need another Betking scam thread and Jollygood creating another identical flag just seems redundant.  

I've posted a note on the Flag page (words to the effect the Flag is not valid).


I'm pretty sure theymos said when introducing Flags that a locked thread is one of the many reasons that makes a Flag invalid.  (but in saying that, I've just scrolled all 20+ pages and can't find where theymos said that...)


True, but Flag 2809 is a type one flag while flag 2810 - type three was created just one second later.

https://bpip.org/flaglog.aspx?accused=Betking%20Manager&active=active

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/15/blob8b19d9111a8e97d4.jpeg

Flag 2809 is redundant in more ways than one, hence my continued opposition to it.

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I am also relying on this interpretation by theymos of their system:


We either work within the guidelines as set out.  Or, we do our own thing, then join a gang when we don't like what others are doing in this place and dish out rough justice.

These are some of the worst terms and conditions I have seen at any casino.

7.3 In the instance that a deposit is unable to be verified by the Blockchain within a reasonable period, it will be considered fraud. All play and winnings associated with that deposit will be null and void. Your account will be temporarily closed and all costs incurred by BetKing Casino, including provider and platform fee retrieval, affiliate commissions, and BetKing administrative costs associated with these transactions will be noted on your account. A KYC is required to reopen a suspended or deactivated account. In the instance your account is reopened, all debts determined by BetKing Casino must be satisfied before you may play Games or make a withdrawal in the future

(source: https://betking.io/terms)

So if by mistake you make a deposit with small transaction fee, you are considered as a scammer.

This is ridiculous.How can a deposit be considered as fraud? >:(
You are giving them coins and they say "We can't verify the transaction,so this is fraud.We are going to keep your coins but your account is going to be banned."
I can't even realize the level of ridiculousness here.
It's funny how the Betking forum thread is dead,but this thread has many replies.
What is the Betking owner trying to achieve by making this relaunch?Betking already has lots of negative reviews and the reviews are visible.Do they think that they will get new customers?

Unfortunately, a lot of newbies don't read reviews. They often play on emotions. They fall for high-quality marketing that successfully converts emotions into initial deposits. Only the reaction of the regulators can help in such cases.

Most of them get faded away with some good bonus and deposit offers and and other redeemable coupons but in turn got scammed with fake casino and face withdrawal issues because they easily trust any casino without any proper investigation and reading reviews but it's the first thing you should do as newbie if you are not playing in any legit casinos of which the community is also not aware about.But we should always do some research because it's the safety of your funds only.

I agree entirely with you. I am surprised that anybody could or would oppose the flag, it does not make sense to me.

I echo your sentiments because why on earth would anybody oppose the flag instead of just opting to not support it especially from members that should know better keeping in mind all the evidence that has been presented to show the betking.io scam

In order to protect gullible investors from getting scammed this thread really should stay open because even though it would be impossible to save everybody just saving one person from becoming a victim would mean the thread has been successful.