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Title: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 10, 2020, 02:37:19 AM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Many people are jubilating and celebrating due to end's or eradication of so called disease corona virus but not knowing that it was avenue bad leaders used to embezzle funds from her countries during the existence of the virus, but many people was against the people that portrays such in society that their is no corona virus in some countries, so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: crwth on November 10, 2020, 02:59:46 AM
So what are you really trying to say? That people who have power are corrupt? That the most powerful people fabricate a complex virus to affect so many people easily without having to trigger a release to harm them? Do they aim to target innocent people to gain more power over everyone else? Is that what you are trying to say?

I can't say I agree with you completely, but it is possible. But I wouldn't believe that easily. I would need to see some proof that they did this or something. There is a lot of fake news that might complicate people's lives, but the COVID-19 pandemic is something real for sure. There are a lot of people who have suffered and died from it all over the world.

If they did do it and manufactured this virus, it's on their conscience. But for us, ordinary people, I believe that it's up to us to follow strict health protocols and help stop its spreading. We all hope that it's the end. 


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 10, 2020, 03:28:37 AM
So what are you really trying to say? That people who have power are corrupt? That the most powerful people fabricate a complex virus to affect so many people easily without having to trigger a release to harm them? Do they aim to target innocent people to gain more power over everyone else? Is that what you are trying to say?

I can't say I agree with you completely, but it is possible. But I wouldn't believe that easily. I would need to see some proof that they did this or something. There is a lot of fake news that might complicate people's lives, but the COVID-19 pandemic is something real for sure. There are a lot of people who have suffered and died from it all over the world.

If they did do it and manufactured this virus, it's on their conscience. But for us, ordinary people, I believe that it's up to us to follow strict health protocols and help stop its spreading. We all hope that it's the end. 

Don't need any prove to justify it, because some bad governance has put people into frustration due to selfishness and mighty personal interest over government funds, because not every countries across the world are victims of the so called disease corona virus, bad leaders strategies with different dimensions to embezzle funds with name of the virus corona, which is the characteristics of negative or bad governance, OK if i may ask, does it means all countries was affected with corona virus?


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: AicecreaME on November 10, 2020, 03:34:21 AM
I really do hope that it’s the end for the covid-19 pandemic. This year has been very exhausting and depressing for most of us. The pandemic brought a lot of suffering particularly to the lower class of the society. Imagine the negative impact it brought to the big corporations that soon affected the working class which average and lower class usually belongs. It has done great damage to the properties and assets of the elites. What more to those who are already struggling to make a living?

Covid-19 exposed the already broken and rotten system every country has. Due to the virus, majority of business closed down and forced to end the contract of some of their workers. This lead to higher unemployment rate which results to more people falling into poverty line. These people have no choice, but to rely on the government aide and programs that could help them survive the daily basis. Unfortunately, most of these people still haven’t received the help they need because of slow progress.

Many people had fallen to their demise and many people are still battling the virus. During the first and second quarter of this year has been hellish most especially to the developing and third world countries. These countries has been indebted to the World Bank and other countries millions, billions, and even trillions of money. This add up to their burden since most of the countries don’t have the capability at the moment to pay for their debts. Increase of interest rate is guaranteed which will lead them to more unstable and unpleasant situation in the future.

During this time, vaccines are undergoing testing by different pharmaceutical companies. These companies has been racing to produce the most effective vaccine as soon as they can. This is a great move as we are still talking about business at the same time, a protection that could possibly stop the worldwide pandemic.

Hopefully, a vaccine safe and effective to administer will be produced as early as late December this year so that it can undergo mass production by early 2021. If ever scientists can produce it by this time, it would be a breakthrough from the scientific field as vaccines are estimated to be produced for about 4-5 years.

I just really do hope for the best before this year 2020 ends, so that we can go back to our usual routines without the fear of getting infected.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: crwth on November 10, 2020, 03:50:37 AM
Don't need any prove to justify it,
Then I guess you are biased to one ideal only. It's going to be hard going into something that has no proof of what really is there. Do you think everyone would believe you? You might be someone who is angry with the government and is contradicting everything. Just because something isn't going your way, it isn't good. You need proof to justify that it's actually bad and is actually happening.

OK if i may ask, does it means all countries was affected with corona virus?
The world won't be in a pandemic if everyone is not at risk. It definitely concerns all the countries in the world.

If you check the website of WHO, there are some countries that had 0 cases ever.

https://covid19.who.int/

Does it already mean that the most powerful people who fabricated this what you call "coronavirus" doesn't benefit anything from them that's why they didn't infect it? Or are there no people going in and out of the country?


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Wexnident on November 10, 2020, 04:50:30 AM
At this point, you're clearly blaming the wrong thing. Corruption does not mean incompetence and vice versa imo, and the reason why most countries got infected by the virus is the incompetence of the government to decisively implement quarantine conditions as well as implement strict rules to prevent the spread when the virus already spread inside the country. There were already news about how there was an unknown sickness found in China way back then, but countries still allowed people from said country to go to and fro from China, heck even China itself allowed possible infected citizens to migrate to other countries. Not that I'd fully blame them, the idea of a pandemic happening never crossed my mind back then after all.

The disease possibly could be removed from the country, as long as no more infections happen and all of the infected are either dead, or have recovered from the virus. A vaccine is simply something to prevent others from being infected, so basically, the same premise as I have said, just that with a vaccine it's a more guaranteed solution.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 10, 2020, 06:25:18 AM
I believe you are from Africa, you are right that many African leaders do embezzle money and leading to misappropriation of funds, but that is just part of the reasons why African is not develope, but the main reason for African bad economy is mainly about what the leaders are capable of. Are African leaders capable to lead? I do not think so, because they are not capable to lead. Many of them are not literates, they only went to school but not literate to the extent they can offer the economy good. If they are literate, they have all it takes to make their countries economy to be one of the best in the world, but yet, they have the poorest economy. Unlike western and developed countries where their leaders are more educated, they know the latest going on, unlike Africa. Africa is the continent I have noticed they like political power, they like to manipulate politically, not thinking if it will favour their citizens or not, but that will favour them and their families. They do not even fully count their countries as a full home, that is why their wives, children and themselves have the green card to western nation countries like USA and also travelling there for medicals and many other reasons because they make their countries unfit for people. The people because of illetracy will still vote for such leaders and the leaders will still manipulate politically to get to the leading seat. What I have noticed is affecting Africa countries is the fact that they want to continuing depending on western national and national like China, they do not want to stand on their own and also lead the world. This has been the start as I see Africa has a continent that does not want to just stop this but following the old ways that could not get them out of their past misfortunes.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: davis196 on November 10, 2020, 06:45:07 AM
The corona virus pandemic might end in some countries,but it will continue to spread in other countries.
Right now,the pandemic is spreading rapidly in Europe and North America,but the Asian countries like China,Japan and South Korea managed to put the coronavirus under control.
The politicians failed to stop the pandemic,because total lockdowns are a very unpopular decision,which will make them lose votes in the future elections.
Explaining every problem with corruption across the political elites is pretty much oversimplifying that problem,which is wrong.The problem is much more complex than we think it is.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: drlukacs on November 10, 2020, 06:45:46 AM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.
Without medicine, no one would be able to overcome the disease. This is an infectious disease and it spreads the virus more and more into your body. To prevent that, you need resistance and drugs, that's for sure.
it is only politicians or important holders of special authority. They have access to the best drugs or medical devices to help them overcome the disease. And that is also the reason why Trump turned negative for Covid 19 after only a few days of finding a positive :D


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: avikz on November 10, 2020, 06:45:56 AM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Many people are jubilating and celebrating due to end's or eradication of so called disease corona virus but not knowing that it was avenue bad leaders used to embezzle funds from her countries during the existence of the virus, but many people was against the people that portrays such in society that their is no corona virus in some countries, so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

That's everywhere brother! COVID-19 has given us a lot of hardship, people lost their jobs, their income and even their businesses! But corrupted politician and police force were able to milk the situation to fill their own pocket while commoners were dying on the road. But that's just not your country, same for my country as well and I am sure the picture is same for everyone else here! Be it US or India or any other continent, the picture is same everywhere!

I really hope this virus ends soon because the consequence we are facing, is not good. The consequence economy is facing, is not good and everyone is looking for an avenue to escape the situation. But looking at the situation, that doesn't look possible until mid 2021.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Mauser on November 10, 2020, 07:40:56 AM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?



Eliminating corona without drugs is very hard in my opinion. You would need to keep everyone one in qarantine for 2 weeks to eliminate it completely. But this would kill any economy as most countries are already hurting a lot this year.

Also it seems like a vaccine is finally available. Biontech reported positive results yesterday and the stock price jumped 20% instantly.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Strongkored on November 10, 2020, 08:11:46 AM
so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.
The evidence should be included so your statement becomes very valid.

Everyone certainly hope that this will end soon not only because of economic but also boredom because our activities limited, but still without a vaccine, you still have to be patient for normal activities.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Chrystora123 on November 10, 2020, 08:28:54 AM
snip..
I understand what you mean, here you want to explain that the possibility of funds for vaccines in your country is corrupted by the government in your country.  to be honest, actually (according to some experts) the covid-19 virus is not that dangerous and can heal without medication, but the real scenario and purpose is still hidden.  the thing that looks real is very strange is China's claim that their country is free of Covid-19, while we ourselves know how the lifestyle of residents there is known to be a little dirty..

many think the same as you but without clear evidence, we will only get in trouble for spreading information that is only based on "feelings or guesses" alone..


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on November 10, 2020, 09:17:40 AM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?



Eliminating corona without drugs is very hard in my opinion. You would need to keep everyone one in qarantine for 2 weeks to eliminate it completely. But this would kill any economy as most countries are already hurting a lot this year.

Also it seems like a vaccine is finally available. Biontech reported positive results yesterday and the stock price jumped 20% instantly.
The 2 weeks quarantine that you are talking about is not actually a way to eliminate the virus,

It is only a way to determine if a patient or the suspected patient will show any symptoms of the virus especially if you travel from another country or if you have encountered a person with or suspected patient with corona virus.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: plvbob0070 on November 10, 2020, 10:01:06 AM
Well, the government is one who has a crucial role in this kind of situation because if they are competent enough, they will find a way to slow down the spread of the virus just like what other countries have done. I know there are corrupt officials but we can't blame everyone and everything on them because this virus just suddenly spread across the world.

Your question if it's possible to eliminate the virus without drugs, do you mean the vaccine? Because as we can see, people also recovered even without the vaccine, they just need to rest and intake some vitamins to strengthen their immune system. But I think, to fully eliminate this virus, we still need a vaccine.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: sheenshane on November 10, 2020, 10:13:10 AM
There are so many ways for an individual to cope up in any stressful situation, either negative or positive way will do as long as it will help us recover from the pain that we have gone through.  The same as with this pandemic some people use the situation to discover their capabilities in order to survive and IMO,  I can't blame OP if this is his way to recuperate in this pandemic.

Moreover, it might also be true that some politicians are also using the pandemic for their own good but the reality remains that ordinary people like us suffered the most and we don't have any means of stopping it instead we still need to rely on our government about this situation by adapting to the environment and society that we are in.  Who really knows, they are on top of us and we really don't know what's going on, as long as we follow what our government implementation.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: kkaroul4 on November 10, 2020, 10:18:53 AM
They were not treated it's just the fact that the virus always die after 2 weeks if I'm not wrong those countries was just very strict that's why they easily stopped the virus from spreading. If the country can managed it that's a good thing since they don't need to wait before the vaccine was created.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 10, 2020, 10:25:01 AM
At this point, you're clearly blaming the wrong thing. Corruption does not mean incompetence and vice versa imo, and the reason why most countries got infected by the virus is the incompetence of the government to decisively implement quarantine conditions as well as implement strict rules to prevent the spread when the virus already spread inside the country. There were already news about how there was an unknown sickness found in China way back then, but countries still allowed people from said country to go to and fro from China, heck even China itself allowed possible infected citizens to migrate to other countries. Not that I'd fully blame them, the idea of a pandemic happening never crossed my mind back then after all.

The disease possibly could be removed from the country, as long as no more infections happen and all of the infected are either dead, or have recovered from the virus. A vaccine is simply something to prevent others from being infected, so basically, the same premise as I have said, just that with a vaccine it's a more guaranteed solution.
I'm trying to let you know that majority of the countries did not witnesse or experienced Corona virus but due to some government of a country seems it as source of expenditure that will enable them to achieve countries funds, is it possible for seven (7) countries been infected  the same month, the answer is no, so how come every country hookups with the disease, so its clear that politician come up with such ideology to embezzle money.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: bakasabo on November 10, 2020, 10:27:17 AM
Yesterday it was announced, that the cure is almost ready and helps in 90% of the cases. But dont forget that the virus evolves also and we need time for real testing period.

Still there is no 100% confirmation how people get sick. People that are on a lockdown, was hands and wear masks in crowded places still manage to fall victim to a virus.

I dont think that cure can help. People just need to build immunity to it. When catch covid-19, in two weeks it either dies by itself thanks to your immune system, or does harm to you.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Dragonfund on November 10, 2020, 12:55:55 PM
Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

I can't agree more my friend. In every leadership, we dnt always have what we want. There is bad leadership in every sectors and not just government but as an individual. I have this believe that in order to curb corruption, it need to start from individual. A single person cannot fight herd of corrupt officials.
Let's use my country for example, during the covid 19, palliative was distributed from federal government to each state capital which are meant to be distributed to her people. Do you know it was only few governors that distributed the palliatives while leaving their people on hunger.
Funny enough, the palliative were later bursted by hoodlums in warehouses during a peaceful protest that was escalated by thugs. The image of the below has marked history in our life that we will never forget.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcT0jsqJcqChrINQJpnEf9KTZFkO5Eoi06LyIg&usqp=CAU


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: goaldigger on November 10, 2020, 01:04:43 PM
Yesterday it was announced, that the cure is almost ready and helps in 90% of the cases. But dont forget that the virus evolves also and we need time for real testing period.

Still there is no 100% confirmation how people get sick. People that are on a lockdown, was hands and wear masks in crowded places still manage to fall victim to a virus.

I dont think that cure can help. People just need to build immunity to it. When catch covid-19, in two weeks it either dies by itself thanks to your immune system, or does harm to you.

The market reacts into this one and its a good sign of a great recovery soon, hopefully more trials will tested out soon since many are aiming to find the cure. So for now, we have to be more physically fit and mentally healthy, this is the best way to fight the virus and survive the pandemic. We are hoping for the best, let’s give more time to our doctors and scientist, soon they’ll bring us a more good news.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Kopetunto on November 10, 2020, 01:07:12 PM
the vaccine will be available next year, and the end of the corona virus will also end next year,
my prediction is in Quarter 2 or 3 2021 The vaccine is ready, I am really excited about next year,
the question is whether this will have an impact on crypto currency?


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: The cure on November 10, 2020, 02:28:49 PM
We are all hoping that this pandemic will end soon, especially now that the news has been reported that the vaccine will be launched in 2021. we are all excited and happy to hear that, because it is so tiring to live with so many limitations and restrictions that need to be followed in our daily lives. But even though the vaccine is already there, we must continue to strengthen our health as it is still our best antidote to the virus and any disease that comes out.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 10, 2020, 02:44:36 PM
Yesterday it was announced, that the cure is almost ready and helps in 90% of the cases. But dont forget that the virus evolves also and we need time for real testing period.

Still there is no 100% confirmation how people get sick. People that are on a lockdown, was hands and wear masks in crowded places still manage to fall victim to a virus.

I dont think that cure can help. People just need to build immunity to it. When catch covid-19, in two weeks it either dies by itself thanks to your immune system, or does harm to you.


The question is that when will these vaccine be ready ? We have be hearing about the readiness of the vaccine but yet know one published or introduce it to the world, because I heard that people is still passing through virus so why can't the vaccine not manufacture so fast so that it will enable people to recover or cure from these disease. See their is no way people can build immunity via corona virus without vaccine that will eliminate it, building immunity it's based on vaccine so why can't government make provision of it for their people.


Title: Re: Esperando que seja o fim do vírus corona
Post by: Sergio_CA on November 10, 2020, 02:45:17 PM
Covid-19 taught us some very basic things, but forgotten by the human being who believes he is unattainable: 1) no financial system, however good it is, is not immune, nor even exempt from financial losses; 2) the human being, no matter how good, however great the knowledge acquired is finite, limited, fragile, extremely susceptible to the world around us; 3) we need to be careful with ourselves, and with the others around us; 4) just as other crises and problems have been overcome, covid-19 will be overcome.

However, I would like to raise a pertinent question on the subject: will we be prepared for the next crises that can plague our lives?


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Restmand on November 10, 2020, 03:31:19 PM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Many people are jubilating and celebrating due to end's or eradication of so called disease corona virus but not knowing that it was avenue bad leaders used to embezzle funds from her countries during the existence of the virus, but many people was against the people that portrays such in society that their is no corona virus in some countries, so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.
Regarding with your statement maybe we need to have strong evidence for us to say about corrupt government officials but for this time of pandemic I pray and hoping nobody is trying to grab the opportunity of corruption. I just hope that everybody will think of the dangerous situation of people who are suffering against the virus. Let us help each other in order to minimize the spread of the virus by following some protocols and we will pray for the success of the making of the vaccines against corona virus.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Cling18 on November 10, 2020, 03:37:08 PM
Unfortunately, that's the struggle that our country is going through. People are suffering more not just because of the pandemic but because of corrupt leaders. Instead of helping people, they're using our national funds for their own purposes. They're taking advantage of the situation which is making the pandemic crisis worse. I think even when the pandemic ends, the corruption would still continue to foster in our country.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: ilovealtcoins on November 10, 2020, 03:37:49 PM
Vaccines are just the solution, and it will take time to get them to the world, which can take several years.
The world economy is a chain of supply and demand, and it is like the ecosystems of the entire earth. An affected link will affect the rest. In my opinion, economic and political issues will be affected by the Corona Virus longer-term because its impact is so dire.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: davinchi on November 10, 2020, 03:38:28 PM
Vaccine is something that will "prevent" you from getting it, or even if you get it you won't be living through the virus infection as bad as you normally would without the vaccine which means we are not going to suddenly see numbers going down, we need to literally get that vaccine at the hands of every single hospital for 7+ billion people in order to make sure nobody would be as severely sick as they normally would.

Do you really believe that pfizer will print out 7+ billion of these things in few months? It will be at least 6 months (probably longer) for everyone to get it. At first they will do it in USA and charge something idiotic like 100 bucks per vaccine or something, after that move to Europe and Canada to make it reasonable like 5-10 bucks, only after that they will go to markets like Asia and Africa and Latin america where it will be like 1 dollars.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Ridcan on November 10, 2020, 03:42:48 PM
There are still a lot of conspiracy theories about the coronavirus.  nothing is clear.  only what we know is that countries had a hard time economically in this war.  I think finding the vaccine is an important development.  I hope it will fix everything before things get worse


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: target on November 10, 2020, 03:57:08 PM

I only heard immunity and without drugs from Jetcash.  I'm not sure if it's possible, there are conspiracy that this virus is just fake but the number of deaths though is just too much to ignore. There are vaccines that are in the last phase of its trial and I guess there will be no problem already. The sooner we get vaccines the sooner we can get back to recover the economy.

The problem with this virus is that it divides countries because the difficulty of handling this pandemic was also used to point fault to the governing officials like Trump. In effect, this divides a country. Politics is just getting worse.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Inkdatar on November 10, 2020, 04:00:35 PM
Unfortunately, that's the struggle that our country is going through. People are suffering more not just because of the pandemic but because of corrupt leaders. Instead of helping people, they're using our national funds for their own purposes. They're taking advantage of the situation which is making the pandemic crisis worse. I think even when the pandemic ends, the corruption would still continue to foster in our country.
This is happening to a certain poor countries instead of funds for this pandemic to help people those in need there are government official able to do corrupt the funds. The situation is worse most people don't have a job because of this pandemic. Many people suffer a lot and we do hope the vaccine will out so we can go back to normal days.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: oHnK on November 10, 2020, 04:06:26 PM
I also feel that this pandemic provides many opportunities for corrupt government officials to embezzle funds.  With steps to save the country's economy, the government prints money or increases the country's debt to provide economic stimulus.  Instead of distributing these funds properly and correctly, they take the opportunity for their own benefit.  The vaccine that is made is hoped to be able to end this pandemic.  Because the longer this pandemic is with us, the more victims will be.  Not only victims who are infected with the virus, but also victims of hunger and victims of bad people in our country.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Subbir on November 10, 2020, 04:07:16 PM
Hopefully the coronavirus will end but it will take time for prevention to take effect but during this time the coronavirus infection will either go out of our control or get out of control. The future of our nation lies in the third essential task which is to be socially isolated from each other. America now has two parts in one part everyone is in the healthcare sector they are treating patients, examining corona, some are engaged in making medical equipment. Reducing the rate of Kovid-19 infection will save the health care system from collapsing in the future. Some important steps need to be taken now until a decision seems reasonable a few weeks must go by.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: elspethrooney on November 10, 2020, 04:37:35 PM
I would be totally happy if any of your optimistic thoughts become true. However, every serious piece of information so far contains only bad news.

- it seems that more and more studies about no possibility of long term immunity appears. It seems that you can get the covid as many times as required to die (like the seasonal flu)
- it seems that more and more long term (livelong) complications after recovery from covid are recorded and reported
- it seems that many institutions work on vaccine, however any vaccine should be tested for many years (as far as I know) before mass application, otherwise the vaccinated group can get some other complications (die from other illness etc.). Even though we can start vaccinating soon in case of success (next year maybe?), it would be hazard, and most likely no government will go this dangerous way

I am pretty sad about this, but I guess the best option we have now is to get used to the semi-lockdown, social restrictions and other limitations. It seems the limitations will play a vital role of our lives for many years (at least in covid seaons, probably few times per year). It is quite possible that it will take many years before the live will be the same like before.

Hopefully I am wrong and some weird miracle will happen.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Kez1817 on November 10, 2020, 05:18:18 PM
In our country covid positive everyday still a huge number but DOH said that it was under control. Still scared to go out anywhere because you didn't know if still there's a place without covid virus. They said there will be a covid vaccine this coming 2021 and we are hoping so to stop the spreading of this kind of virus. Also we hope that every country will survive after this pandemic and recover again specially the economic status of the country.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: petyang12 on November 10, 2020, 06:10:51 PM
We don't know when will the corona virus will stop unless there is a vaccine already that will stop the virus. In my country, it doesn't have that much cases of covid anymore but you will not know if the place your going to doesn't have covid infected person in the place.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: wxa7115 on November 10, 2020, 07:21:53 PM
I really do hope that it’s the end for the covid-19 pandemic. This year has been very exhausting and depressing for most of us. The pandemic brought a lot of suffering particularly to the lower class of the society. Imagine the negative impact it brought to the big corporations that soon affected the working class which average and lower class usually belongs. It has done great damage to the properties and assets of the elites. What more to those who are already struggling to make a living?

Covid-19 exposed the already broken and rotten system every country has. Due to the virus, majority of business closed down and forced to end the contract of some of their workers. This lead to higher unemployment rate which results to more people falling into poverty line. These people have no choice, but to rely on the government aide and programs that could help them survive the daily basis. Unfortunately, most of these people still haven’t received the help they need because of slow progress.
I really hope that people learn their lesson this time around, look at the stock markets, they are close to their ATH despite the fact there still many millions of people that lost their jobs and are having problems to survive, the system which is currently in place favours those at the top and while this has always been the case the difference is that the favouritism is outrageous right now.

People must learn from all of this that when things go wrong you need to be self-reliant because if you are not then you will depend entirely on the response of the government to the crisis, that as we have seen was terrible to say the least as they were completely unprepared for the virus, and there were days in which the authorities said one thing and then said another the next day and only confused the population when a more clear and decisive posture was needed at the time.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Harlot on November 10, 2020, 09:31:27 PM
the vaccine will be available next year, and the end of the corona virus will also end next year,
my prediction is in Quarter 2 or 3 2021 The vaccine is ready, I am really excited about next year,
the question is whether this will have an impact on crypto currency?

A cure won't really be the end of it for sure. Yeah if a vaccine is create it will solve some problems about the spread but it won't instantly stop it because there will always be an issue about the supply and demand of it as well as some hidden cases or asymptomatic persons not getting the vaccine so a fulle recovery from the virus is not certain. We will still see some minor outbreaks here and there and some lockdowns for sure not to mention that this vaccine won't be fully deployed to every country.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Hamphser on November 10, 2020, 09:49:21 PM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Many people are jubilating and celebrating due to end's or eradication of so called disease corona virus but not knowing that it was avenue bad leaders used to embezzle funds from her countries during the existence of the virus, but many people was against the people that portrays such in society that their is no corona virus in some countries, so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

Actually this do really depend first on citizens discipline. Virus cant really spread if people are strict on following health protocols that had been set by the government
but since you do talk about those corrupt politicians or doesnt care about safety health protocols then you would really be expecting huge numbers of infected people.
Im living in a third world country but everything was still set properly and cases are decreasing and recoveries is rising up and thats thanks to those
who do govern up well on said protocol..


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Yatsan on November 10, 2020, 10:50:35 PM
As of the moment, based on what is happening here in my country, people are now getting immune with the virus for there are lots of positive cases that have been tested to be negative after a week or two which is according to health professionals that the immune system of the people are adapting which is fighting back against the virus even the vaccine is still not available in the market. Yes, vaccine is still needed to immunize people specially those with low immunity but people nowadays who have strong immune system are being able to recover from the virus. This might bring the virus pandemic to come into an end most specially once the vaccine became available for massive public usage around the world. With regards to governance on ending this pandemic, we all do have different kinds of government and perspective towards their actions on doing the best thing to manage the situation. It just so happen that government have different capacity to face it so let us not all here say that they were just corrupting the funds for the situation is very hard to manage in reality. What we certainly need is cooperation and not distraction and soon this pandemic will come to its very end.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Genemind on November 11, 2020, 12:52:54 AM
Some municipalities in our country consider every death as caused by the coronavirus, the reason behind this is because they receive support from the government, the same as with hospitals, even death or diseases not related to corona are recorded as corona so they can receive support from the government. This shows how corrupt not just the government but some establishments are. They are taking advantage of the current pandemic to earn money.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: aioc on November 11, 2020, 12:59:42 AM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?


It's just impossible to eliminate the virus without a vaccine a country will have to alienate itself if they don't want to be contaminated, because it's a pandemic and it's everywhere, I don't think where did you based your statement that politicians has something to do with it, although not yet proven it came from bats or on laboratory, so there's no politician involve in fairness, I also hate politicians but you stand to be corrected.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: terrong on November 11, 2020, 01:07:12 AM
That is what everyone hopes for, I agree with you that this pandemic is a good opportunity for corrupt governments to embezzle state money.
I happen to be Indonesian and in my country the corruption rate is quite high, sometimes I laugh at the government here, seeing something that is clearly embezzlement of funds or political games to raise profits without being able to do anything for me is something funny.
What's worse is that many people here don't believe in the corona virus and roam around without wearing masks, they are not at all afraid of corona , I always laugh at it all.
I am helpless, only God can help me.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Emitdama on November 11, 2020, 06:23:43 AM
the vaccine will be available next year, and the end of the corona virus will also end next year,
my prediction is in Quarter 2 or 3 2021 The vaccine is ready, I am really excited about next year,
the question is whether this will have an impact on crypto currency?
Even WHO is not sure when they will have a vaccine for the virus so any speculations we make are hopeful and not sure if any of the predictions will come true although I too feel like the vaccine is now near the edge and might be out soon.

I don't think the virus ever had any impact on Bitcoins although the drop that happened in March remains suspicious and I haven't been able to locate any article that explains the real reason behind that while some say that it happened because people cashed their assets which include bitcoins just to maintain their portfolio and equity in stock market but all these are again just speculations.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Kakmakr on November 11, 2020, 07:44:37 AM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Many people are jubilating and celebrating due to end's or eradication of so called disease corona virus but not knowing that it was avenue bad leaders used to embezzle funds from her countries during the existence of the virus, but many people was against the people that portrays such in society that their is no corona virus in some countries, so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

You asked a question :

Question - "so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?"
Answer : We have seen several small islands and even smaller countries, where the Corona outbreak was stopped due to restrictions that was put in place by local governments. This helped to stop the spreading of the virus, but it also had very bad economical implications. (Job losses / Traveling restrictions killed local tourism ...etc)

Statement : " ...evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly. "
Counter statement : These African countries did not treat the disease, but there has been some herbal treatments that was used to treat the symptoms, but none of that killed the virus or stopped it from being spread.

Lastly, you pointed out that politicians are using this epidemic to exploit people and that is actually correct, because a lot of "Emergency funds" was used to combat the spread of the virus, but those funds was also exploited and stolen through corrupt tenders.

Bitcoin could help with these tender processes, because the Blockchain can help to track the payments and also to provide transparency.



Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Salauddin1994 on November 11, 2020, 08:08:52 AM
I think the system of government is weak if the government had taken the right steps the political leaders would not have been able to interfere in everything and the common man would be saved from the teachings of corruption. We are hoping for the end of the coronavirus but the exact date is unknown no one is leaving while maintaining social distance if the government introduces strict legal measures it is possible to bring the virus under control even if the vaccine is not available.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Fortify on November 11, 2020, 08:23:35 AM
It will be a huge relief if they can finally put an end to this virus. I cannot wait to start travelling around the world again, exploring new places and seeing how things can be done differently. Hopefully they will eventually find a way for it to be 100% effective because only 90% still leaves quite a bit of risk. When combined with an efficient and quick testing program, that is already starting to happen in many countries, then it should return life to some semblance of normal. Let's just hope the virus doesn't mutate faster than a cure can be found.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Cnut237 on November 11, 2020, 08:52:18 AM
we need to literally get that vaccine at the hands of every single hospital for 7+ billion people in order to make sure nobody would be as severely sick as they normally would.
It's certainly a huge challenge for both production and logistics, but if we are talking about ending the pandemic, then we don't need to vaccinate absolutely everyone. It would be sufficient to vaccinate a large enough proportion of the population that we reduce the effectiveness of the transmission vector, such that r<1. If say 0.8 people are infected by every person who has the virus, then after a time the spread stops almost entirely. I think this will be the aim, and would indeed need to be done globally to prevent pockets of new outbreak. Whilst ideally everyone would be vaccinated, it is, as you say, a difficult target, so I think the practical solution will be 'enough people' rather than 'all people'.


I only heard immunity and without drugs from Jetcash.  I'm not sure if it's possible, there are conspiracy that this virus is just fake
No, it's not fake. The only way you can become immune without drugs is by catching the virus. Even then there is no conclusive evidence that immunity is permanent.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: jostorres on November 11, 2020, 08:55:20 AM
We are all hoping that this pandemic will end soon, especially now that the news has been reported that the vaccine will be launched in 2021. we are all excited and happy to hear that, because it is so tiring to live with so many limitations and restrictions that need to be followed in our daily lives. But even though the vaccine is already there, we must continue to strengthen our health as it is still our best antidote to the virus and any disease that comes out.
I would even say that when the vaccine is out and available taking extra precautions would not be a bad idea because it spreads so fast that if for one week people get careless because of the vaccine launched then it can reach some next levels within a very small time period. In our country we are working quite normally now as compared to earlier this year but yeah we are taking all possible precautions and I personally have stopped almost any kind of party and public gathering even if they are wearing mask.

Time is still sensitive so it is better to be safe than be sorry because we have survived so long and it would be a big mistake to get careless now and get infected with the vaccine almost coming out anytime.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Alucard1 on November 11, 2020, 09:14:09 AM
I am also looking forward that this virus will end this year, as of now the cases in our country are now going down and that is good news because those people who work in the street are now can do that with some restrictions, it is already enough for now because we can still implement full forces because there is still virus in our country and the possibility to spread to many people is still high.

The vaccine for this pandemic is not yet discovered but the good thing here is that we can avoid it just by making our body healthy, if we may boost our immune system then we can prevent this pandemic from spreading but that is not that easy to do especially for those unfortunate people.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: darewaller on November 11, 2020, 09:39:03 AM
How sure are people that the coronavirus is no longer in the country? As for the people going about their normal business, it has been happening almost in every country now, whether there is coronavirus or no coronavirus, people can’t stay indoors and die of hunger, the government is not going to be providing food for you and your family, so you have no other choice than to put on your face mask and get back to work and make sure that you’re following every health protocols that has been laid down to avoid contacting the coronavirus.

As for people in your country not believing there is coronavirus, I understand that that’s what a bad leadership can cause, when leaders are not trustworthy, people will always not believe what they say.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: CODE200 on November 11, 2020, 10:00:37 AM
This shows how corrupt not just the government but some establishments are. They are taking advantage of the current pandemic to earn money.
That's what opportunists do. They are insensitive of how others are suffering in this pandemic. When it comes on taking advantages of the situation, it is also businessmen who are doing so, hoarding of needs and goods at times of such in order to get profit from the situation. But we cannot really blame them from doing so because they have the privilege to do so at some point. But it is different when it comes to governments doing the same thing because they are elected to give service to its people.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on November 11, 2020, 10:54:16 AM
What kind of immunity are we talking about? Have you heard of reinfection cases? Or are you aware that antibodies have a limitation period of six months? What does it mean it will pass in two weeks by itself?  To understand that the virus exists, you need to feel it on your skin.
OP, what method of self-healing are you writing about? This filth will live on until there is a vaccine.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 11, 2020, 11:10:33 AM
I believe all of us want the coronavirus can end as soon as possible. However, unfortunately, if the vaccine still can not distribute in all countries, I am afraid that the coronavirus will still show beside us. It needs understanding from people that the coronavirus is dangerous for their lives. We need to cooperate to minimize the new case, which can still happen in many countries because the government needs support from people. We need to hope that we can eliminate the coronavirus so that everything will be okay, and we will adapt to a new way of life.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: ultrloa on November 11, 2020, 11:37:22 AM
Some municipalities in our country consider every death as caused by the coronavirus, the reason behind this is because they receive support from the government, the same as with hospitals, even death or diseases not related to corona are recorded as corona so they can receive support from the government. This shows how corrupt not just the government but some establishments are. They are taking advantage of the current pandemic to earn money.

This is nothing but just a corruption as showing patients as Corona positive and getting the benefits from the government. Also, wondering why any benefits are given to municipalities, when infact it should be given to the deceased family by taking their account number and contacting them. Why people are not raising this point.


This is so rampant these days since emergency funds to fight the pandemic has been released and many money has been circulate that's why many corrupt officials has take the advantage to take the money of the people. And we should mark those corrupt people and don't vote them when election day comes.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: FlightyPouch on November 11, 2020, 12:01:36 PM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

I think the word is not actually eliminated since we still don't have a vaccine. I think the appropriate word for it is to contain and the health workers focus on stopping the symptoms rather than the virus itself. If they can just contain who has the virus, they can stop the spreading although that is hard since most of the people won't admit they have the virus unless they are tested positive.

The sad thing about that is people tested positive will start to point fingers, start to blame it to someone, and usually, that ends up as the leaders, the government that is warning us, that always tells us that we need to take care, that we needed to be vigilant but most of us are not following.

What I'm saying is that it is not always the government, we also have mistakes and if we will linger to that mistakes and hate them throughout this hard year, do you think we could stop this faster? Without the people joining hands with the government and the government just doing things they wanted to do without actually focusing on what the people needed and what needs to be done, I don't think it will be that easy.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Smartprofit on November 11, 2020, 12:27:49 PM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Many people are jubilating and celebrating due to end's or eradication of so called disease corona virus but not knowing that it was avenue bad leaders used to embezzle funds from her countries during the existence of the virus, but many people was against the people that portrays such in society that their is no corona virus in some countries, so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

Covid-19 has changed the lives of all people on our planet. 

Are you asking if this virus is real?  Yes of course.  People get sick and die.

Is it possible to manipulate public opinion in a pandemic situation?  I think yes. 

According to my observations, many of the rights of people on the planet have been limited.  This happened in both democratic and totalitarian countries. 

The world will never be the same again.

We will travel less.  We will spend more time in the virtual space.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: el kaka22 on November 11, 2020, 07:24:21 PM
These type of viruses do not go away, they do not end, they do not stop, it is not the aim of scientists to find a way that nobody will ever get this virus again and lockdowns could be so dire that you could have one week to collect everything you can, and after that for one month nobody steps outside of their houses ever again, only government workers bring you food or water or whatever you need and doctors go to houses who needs them, everyone else stays for one month and even in that scenario we can be certain that even if there is just ONE sick person left, they will spread it all over again.

What scientists are working however is to make a vaccine (which news say they found) so that you can still get the virus but it won't affect you much, just a bit of cough and move on with your life.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: plast555 on November 11, 2020, 08:14:46 PM
This all is very good news I am also feeling very happy but on other hand we have also few issues with this as well because today I was reading some where we have to wait for very long time for this vaccine because currently just developed and rich countries giving orders and companies need nealy two years to completed this all and then they will go for other developing and third world countries its really bad for them as they still have to face this all for very long time they need to bring some better solution for this also because these countries also facing this all badly and they also have many issues just because of this covid-19.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: harizen on November 11, 2020, 09:10:13 PM
Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

Corruption will always be there but in fairness, we can still assume that we still have good politicians.

As far as we can see that they are good in terms of track record, well, we have no choice but to put our trust to them. As for their response in Covid-19, we should already see by now who are doing great in their jobs, and for those politicians who shows being a sh*t during the pandemic, remember to don't vote for them the next election (for countries that holding an election).

Moving forward, what choice we have? Should we just cry for long? We need to adjust rather than the problem should adjust for us.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: justdimin on November 11, 2020, 09:19:11 PM
Unfortunately, that's the struggle that our country is going through. People are suffering more not just because of the pandemic but because of corrupt leaders. Instead of helping people, they're using our national funds for their own purposes. They're taking advantage of the situation which is making the pandemic crisis worse. I think even when the pandemic ends, the corruption would still continue to foster in our country.
Yeah, some politicians are even showing more damage to the economy than corona virus actually did just so that they can hide their own mistakes and poor decisions in past. They are trying to make it look like corona virus is the only reason behind the poor economic structure but the truth is while virus is a reason but it is not the only one.

Vaccines are just the solution, and it will take time to get them to the world, which can take several years.
The world economy is a chain of supply and demand, and it is like the ecosystems of the entire earth.
Also it is not easy to get the vaccine in bulk quantities so I think only higher sector/society will get to use these vaccines first and in the second stage maybe everyone gets access to it.

There are still a lot of conspiracy theories about the coronavirus.  nothing is clear.  only what we know is that countries had a hard time economically in this war.  I think finding the vaccine is an important development.  I hope it will fix everything before things get worse
Even after everything is sorted I believe it will take years to stabilize the falling economy and that is once the vaccine is in and the virus is out which still isn't certain yet.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: 7788bitcoin on November 11, 2020, 10:06:34 PM
What scientists are working however is to make a vaccine (which news say they found) so that you can still get the virus but it won't affect you much, just a bit of cough and move on with your life.
A decade from today we might think about the pandemic and might laugh at the difficulties we faced and how cursed 2020 was, but the current situation is not getting better, the second wave is creating havoc and the number of patients is increasing and i think we will see another lock down if things get out of control. Even if the vaccine is created it will take a couple of years to reach the entire population and hence the virus is here to stay.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: samcrypto on November 11, 2020, 11:28:29 PM
What scientists are working however is to make a vaccine (which news say they found) so that you can still get the virus but it won't affect you much, just a bit of cough and move on with your life.
A decade from today we might think about the pandemic and might laugh at the difficulties we faced and how cursed 2020 was, but the current situation is not getting better, the second wave is creating havoc and the number of patients is increasing and i think we will see another lock down if things get out of control. Even if the vaccine is created it will take a couple of years to reach the entire population and hence the virus is here to stay.
Hopefully on that time, we can face a new pandemic stronger and a lot more prepared for that. Our country has been devastated so many times this year and we experienced a lot of strong typhoon that kills many, now we are facing another typhoon and hopefully everyone is safe. Hoping for a more real government that really cares about their people, and I’m sure we can end this pandemic if we all work together, well this is not a time to blame anyone but a time to rethink, rebuild and make a better plan for future challenges.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Johnyz on November 11, 2020, 11:41:04 PM
Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

Corruption will always be there but in fairness, we can still assume that we still have good politicians.

As far as we can see that they are good in terms of track record, well, we have no choice but to put our trust to them. As for their response in Covid-19, we should already see by now who are doing great in their jobs, and for those politicians who shows being a sh*t during the pandemic, remember to don't vote for them the next election (for countries that holding an election).

Moving forward, what choice we have? Should we just cry for long? We need to adjust rather than the problem should adjust for us.
We have to learn from this experience and we should not depend to our government alone not because they are corrupt but because they can’t help us all so you have to help yourself. The end of the virus is far from reality, although some vaccine are on the 3rd phase, there’s still no assurance that the virus will be totally gone, we have to stay safe and healthy until they release the vaccine, or we will just fall broke too.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: 24Kt on November 11, 2020, 11:44:49 PM
Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

Corruption will always be there but in fairness, we can still assume that we still have good politicians.

As far as we can see that they are good in terms of track record, well, we have no choice but to put our trust to them. As for their response in Covid-19, we should already see by now who are doing great in their jobs, and for those politicians who shows being a sh*t during the pandemic, remember to don't vote for them the next election (for countries that holding an election).

Moving forward, what choice we have? Should we just cry for long? We need to adjust rather than the problem should adjust for us.
We have to learn from this experience and we should not depend to our government alone not because they are corrupt but because they can’t help us all so you have to help yourself. The end of the virus is far from reality, although some vaccine are on the 3rd phase, there’s still no assurance that the virus will be totally gone, we have to stay safe and healthy until they release the vaccine, or we will just fall broke too.

It will be long before this virus will be contained. Though, we are already hearing news that bointech & pfizer already got the 90% effectiveness, still there are a lot of things to consider here. When will people will get this covid vaccine. So waiting for that, one should really make ends meet and look for options to survive in this pandemic. We really should not rely from our government alone, as you will just be disappointed if you keep on waiting.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: TitanGEL on November 12, 2020, 05:01:07 AM
Unfortunately, that's the struggle that our country is going through. People are suffering more not just because of the pandemic but because of corrupt leaders. Instead of helping people, they're using our national funds for their own purposes. They're taking advantage of the situation which is making the pandemic crisis worse. I think even when the pandemic ends, the corruption would still continue to foster in our country.
Yeah, some politicians are even showing more damage to the economy than corona virus actually did just so that they can hide their own mistakes and poor decisions in past. They are trying to make it look like corona virus is the only reason behind the poor economic structure but the truth is while virus is a reason but it is not the only one.

Vaccines are just the solution, and it will take time to get them to the world, which can take several years.
The world economy is a chain of supply and demand, and it is like the ecosystems of the entire earth.
Also it is not easy to get the vaccine in bulk quantities so I think only higher sector/society will get to use these vaccines first and in the second stage maybe everyone gets access to it.

There are still a lot of conspiracy theories about the coronavirus.  nothing is clear.  only what we know is that countries had a hard time economically in this war.  I think finding the vaccine is an important development.  I hope it will fix everything before things get worse
Even after everything is sorted I believe it will take years to stabilize the falling economy and that is once the vaccine is in and the virus is out which still isn't certain yet.
I'm certain that the vaccine will already available next January 2021, because for sure that time many pharma will able to finish the phase 3 which are the human trials. They will going for sure in phase 4 where they will mass produce the vaccine that they made. The economy is now starting to recover and the good thing is our government is starting to control the virus where the active cases are continuing to go down even though there is still no vaccine. I do not believe in conspiracy theory especially if it is about the virus; I just following the advices of the professionals out there because they are disseminating information with backup data and facts and not just about the theory that created by some people.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Lorence.xD on November 12, 2020, 05:30:39 AM
I feel bad for the other politicians that are just doing their jobs being clustered together with the corrupt ones. If people only knew how to vote someone that is deserving then I think that will result will present itself. Education about politics and society should be prioritized if we want a population that actively participates in what issue is happening in their community.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: nomenclatur on November 12, 2020, 05:39:41 AM
as long as there is life there will definitely be bad people who want to achieve everything because of that this coronavirus has made many people suffer and for the people in power they will take advantage of this situation to make their names famous and the good they are still Doing corruption for the welfare of their own lives. A lot of greedy and irresponsible people take advantage of this situation to increase their wealth.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: gabbie2010 on November 12, 2020, 05:42:34 AM
Unfortunately, that's the struggle that our country is going through. People are suffering more not just because of the pandemic but because of corrupt leaders. Instead of helping people, they're using our national funds for their own purposes. They're taking advantage of the situation which is making the pandemic crisis worse. I think even when the pandemic ends, the corruption would still continue to foster in our country.
Yeah, some politicians are even showing more damage to the economy than corona virus actually did just so that they can hide their own mistakes and poor decisions in past. They are trying to make it look like corona virus is the only reason behind the poor economic structure but the truth is while virus is a reason but it is not the only one.

Vaccines are just the solution, and it will take time to get them to the world, which can take several years.
The world economy is a chain of supply and demand, and it is like the ecosystems of the entire earth.
Also it is not easy to get the vaccine in bulk quantities so I think only higher sector/society will get to use these vaccines first and in the second stage maybe everyone gets access to it.

There are still a lot of conspiracy theories about the coronavirus.  nothing is clear.  only what we know is that countries had a hard time economically in this war.  I think finding the vaccine is an important development.  I hope it will fix everything before things get worse
Even after everything is sorted I believe it will take years to stabilize the falling economy and that is once the vaccine is in and the virus is out which still isn't certain yet.
I'm certain that the vaccine will already available next January 2021, because for sure that time many pharma will able to finish the phase 3 which are the human trials. They will going for sure in phase 4 where they will mass produce the vaccine that they made. The economy is now starting to recover and the good thing is our government is starting to control the virus where the active cases are continuing to go down even though there is still no vaccine. I do not believe in conspiracy theory especially if it is about the virus; I just following the advices of the professionals out there because they are disseminating information with backup data and facts and not just about the theory that created by some people.
EU had already ordered for 300m doses https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-54902056 I believed inoculation will start immediately when the vaccine is ready I believed the human trials had been concluded that is why the cheering news was revealed and it made a lot of headlines globally consequently made an instant impact in all markets.
Pfitger must have began mass production of the vaccine the fact the it has 90% efficacy and trials made on some people was very successful.
I agreed that it will take time before economies of many countries ridden by this virus to improve however there light at the end of the tunnel.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Reid on November 12, 2020, 06:04:20 AM
Don't need any prove to justify it, because some bad governance has put people into frustration due to selfishness and mighty personal interest over government funds, because not every countries across the world are victims of the so called disease corona virus, bad leaders strategies with different dimensions to embezzle funds with name of the virus corona, which is the characteristics of negative or bad governance, OK if i may ask, does it means all countries was affected with corona virus?

It's called "pandemic" for a reason.
A pandemic is the worldwide spread of a new disease.  (https://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/frequently_asked_questions/pandemic/en/#:~:text=A%20pandemic%20is%20the%20worldwide,people%20do%20not%20have%20immunity.)

There will always be a corrupted side of governance.
Even when you are a kid voting for classroom presidency or other positions it is already corrupted.
It ain't new anymore, it is a habit.  ;D
Anyway, there are still good people out there who are trying to make it right but they cannot please everybody.
They always have their own opinion and mainstream media may have a share for opinions to change.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: pankowri on November 12, 2020, 08:14:54 AM
The whole scenarios are not the same as like as your country. I am from a third world country where the ratio of population and area is too much gap. So the density of the population is high and maintaining social distance is very tough. So it is difficult here without a vaccine. The politicians are not active in that area of the world. This is also a factor. In my country, the second phase of the virus is running and it is a disaster now. So here I can't say the ending of the Coronavirus.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Inkdatar on November 12, 2020, 10:43:49 AM
as long as there is life there will definitely be bad people who want to achieve everything because of that this coronavirus has made many people suffer and for the people in power they will take advantage of this situation to make their names famous and the good they are still Doing corruption for the welfare of their own lives. A lot of greedy and irresponsible people take advantage of this situation to increase their wealth.
This is true there are some people take advantage of this situation were facing because of this pandemic. Some politicians corrupt money or funds to be given to those in need. Hope this pandemic will end so we can go back to the normal things that we do. We're waiting for the vaccine and hope it will release early next year.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: lienfaye on November 12, 2020, 11:02:26 AM
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Getting rid of this virus without vaccine/drugs to be taken is not possible specially to countries with stubborn citizen and no discipline unless if the people has unity to stop the virus from spreading. This can be possible if thats the case wherein everyone are helping each other, obeying the rules and not stubborn to do what they want despite of having a virus existing.

On regards of government issues, its not new to have a corrupt leaders (though I dont generalize them) and its the usual problem that we have in politics. Some of them are only concern of their image and main goal, regardless of having a pandemic or not, their own welfare are there priorities.



Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GrayFullbuster on November 12, 2020, 12:18:35 PM
Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.

Corruption will always be there but in fairness, we can still assume that we still have good politicians.

As far as we can see that they are good in terms of track record, well, we have no choice but to put our trust to them. As for their response in Covid-19, we should already see by now who are doing great in their jobs, and for those politicians who shows being a sh*t during the pandemic, remember to don't vote for them the next election (for countries that holding an election).

Moving forward, what choice we have? Should we just cry for long? We need to adjust rather than the problem should adjust for us.
It is sad to say that the corruption in my country became worst when the pandemic began, yes they have a lot of projects to help those who are affected but those "a lot" projects are the way for them to get the money or I can say corruption. It is really sad because they can response more in order to reverse the growth of the virus but they still chose to get that money with no witness for their own necessities. I hope that the pandemic will already be finish because a lot of businesses and a lot of people are keep losing job where the poverty rate are keep increasing.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Princejebs on November 12, 2020, 12:29:14 PM
The whole scenarios are not the same as like as your country. I am from a third world country where the ratio of population and area is too much gap. So the density of the population is high and maintaining social distance is very tough. So it is difficult here without a vaccine. The politicians are not active in that area of the world. This is also a factor. In my country, the second phase of the virus is running and it is a disaster now. So here I can't say the ending of the Coronavirus.
Hey buddy!
Is that part of Africa? I'm afraid to say that my country as developing country has managed for 6 months to avoid coronavirus even though some little damage were already done before they announced complete shut down of the whole states.
Countries with less basics and social amenities are the place that suffered the most from this contagious virus,some are still in recovery mode. I just hope things get better with the new Propose vaccine that was announced this week to help under developed countries.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Westinhome on November 12, 2020, 12:55:24 PM
as long as there is life there will definitely be bad people who want to achieve everything because of that this coronavirus has made many people suffer and for the people in power they will take advantage of this situation to make their names famous and the good they are still Doing corruption for the welfare of their own lives. A lot of greedy and irresponsible people take advantage of this situation to increase their wealth.
This is true there are some people take advantage of this situation were facing because of this pandemic. Some politicians corrupt money or funds to be given to those in need. Hope this pandemic will end so we can go back to the normal things that we do. We're waiting for the vaccine and hope it will release early next year.
Corruption its always there wherever country it is, Maybe they will be stop if have some of them be sample to death penalty. Even do a funds from vaccine for coronavirus they trying to corrupt and put it there wallet if there's no people around. So the virus is always going around and back again for us, And yes we hoping the pandemic will end and also the corruption government.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Tahsin Kabir Kollol on November 12, 2020, 02:06:50 PM
The coronavirus epidemic has left people all over the world helpless and Uncomfortable. It is a very common thing that some corrupt governments in the country during a national disaster and the ruling elites take advantage of this. This is especially the case in underdeveloped and developing countries. The coronavirus vaccine is expected to hit the market in December 2020, but the corneal virus epidemic will not be over. It will take some time to reach people all over the world so it is easy to say that the coronavirus epidemic is not going to disappear from us anytime soon.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Oneandpure on November 12, 2020, 02:14:54 PM
The coronavirus epidemic has left people all over the world helpless and Uncomfortable. It is a very common thing that some corrupt governments in the country during a national disaster and the ruling elites take advantage of this. This is especially the case in underdeveloped and developing countries. The coronavirus vaccine is expected to hit the market in December 2020, but the corneal virus epidemic will not be over. It will take some time to reach people all over the world so it is easy to say that the coronavirus epidemic is not going to disappear from us anytime soon.
I think that even though a vaccine for the Covid 19 virus has been found, this virus will still not stop, let alone disappear, we know how the government and certain groups of people take advantage of this situation to get big benefits. Almost institution in my country take benefit from Covid 19 with giving fake data and document for positive 19 victim, many people have pass away but always diagnosed as a victim of covid 19, just the voctim only left on hospital one night, I know how some one pass away after get an accident but in hospital diagnosed as a victim of covid 19, How come it happen if not institution work as proffesional with corruption and how will be covid 19 ended without have new way how to stop corrupt government and hospital.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: ardentvolcanoes on November 12, 2020, 03:28:45 PM
The coronavirus epidemic has left people all over the world helpless and Uncomfortable. It is a very common thing that some corrupt governments in the country during a national disaster and the ruling elites take advantage of this. This is especially the case in underdeveloped and developing countries. The coronavirus vaccine is expected to hit the market in December 2020, but the corneal virus epidemic will not be over. It will take some time to reach people all over the world so it is easy to say that the coronavirus epidemic is not going to disappear from us anytime soon.

The hope will be more higher once this vaccine start to be available during that period of time, like what you have said, this virus left everyone

uncomfortable, the new normal settings in each places around the world will continue even the vaccine is already available as more people will

continue being furious and continue to take care of themselves which we all need even there's already a good possible antidote.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 12, 2020, 10:01:58 PM
The coronavirus epidemic has left people all over the world helpless and Uncomfortable. It is a very common thing that some corrupt governments in the country during a national disaster and the ruling elites take advantage of this. This is especially the case in underdeveloped and developing countries. The coronavirus vaccine is expected to hit the market in December 2020, but the corneal virus epidemic will not be over. It will take some time to reach people all over the world so it is easy to say that the coronavirus epidemic is not going to disappear from us anytime soon.
From initial the statement rendered here concerning corona virus is very clear and its quite understandable due to the arrangement but the area I find difficult to comprehend you is the aspect your emphasising that corona virus will not disappear in us without the vaccine that government has been making for months now, so many people treated the virus with different vaccines and i dont really think the virus still have bond like its before.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: AndySt on November 12, 2020, 11:59:39 PM
The coronavirus epidemic has left people all over the world helpless and Uncomfortable. It is a very common thing that some corrupt governments in the country during a national disaster and the ruling elites take advantage of this. This is especially the case in underdeveloped and developing countries. The coronavirus vaccine is expected to hit the market in December 2020, but the corneal virus epidemic will not be over. It will take some time to reach people all over the world so it is easy to say that the coronavirus epidemic is not going to disappear from us anytime soon.
From initial the statement rendered here concerning corona virus is very clear and its quite understandable due to the arrangement but the area I find difficult to comprehend you is the aspect your emphasising that corona virus will not disappear in us without the vaccine that government has been making for months now, so many people treated the virus with different vaccines and i dont really think the virus still have bond like its before.
Vaccination essentially helps to avoid a large number of victims and this will be its main mission in the near future, and not the complete elimination of the virus. As time passed, it should be said that the forecasts about the attenuation and disappearance of the coronavirus by the winter period were not justified and humanity will be forced to coexist with the coronavirus in the coming years, and maybe always, as it happens with SARS and flu.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: samputin on November 13, 2020, 03:26:06 AM
I feel bad for the other politicians that are just doing their jobs being clustered together with the corrupt ones. If people only knew how to vote someone that is deserving then I think that will result will present itself. Education about politics and society should be prioritized if we want a population that actively participates in what issue is happening in their community.
Well said there. I know so many people who have high positions in the government who don't have a background in politics and society. Some are actors, athletes, and others. I'm guessing that they've won because they're popular. I'm not saying that it's not good, but I think it would be better if they're really there to serve the people and not just for the money.

With regards to the current situation, yes, we can really see at this point who did something to help their country and their people in facing this health crisis. We should base our decision on how our politicians performed during the most critical times of our lives before we vote. As for now, we should just remain following the health protocols as long as there is no vaccine out. That's the least we could do to help stop it's spread.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Zha_13 on November 13, 2020, 05:33:33 AM
I hope the pandemic is over. Our situation is so difficult.
But we can not say when it will be. Hopefully by 2021 that corona virus will disappear.Let's just trust Jesus he is there so we can all just pray with him



Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: adzino on November 13, 2020, 06:10:51 AM
Don't expect the pandemic to be over as soon as the vaccine comes out. Remember, we are just getting the vaccine. The vaccine producers will have to produce billions and billions (each people will need around 2 to 3 jabs within few weeks apart) of vaccine to vaccinate most of the people around the world. So, make sure you follow all the rules and avoid spreading the virus being careless thinking that the vaccine is out. Don't expect everything to go back to normal within few days. Though the doctors and scientists are saying everything will hopefully get back to normal after next year summer. So, let just wait and see.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: STT on November 13, 2020, 06:20:16 AM
Its not the end of the covid complications most likely because it can cross species, mutate slightly and come back to cross infect and reemerge as a threat to human populations again with a new strain that wont be stopped by a vaccine.   Unfortunately that will remain a possibility but with caution and monitoring it should be a foreseeable risk to avoid at least.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-11-13/markets-worst-tail-risk-is-danish-mink-s-mutating-virus?utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-view&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=view


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: kawetsriyanto on November 13, 2020, 06:37:51 AM
Now, it is still ongoing, the virus is still here around us. Although we try to make everything in like a new normal, in fact, the virus isn't gone yet.
But, we try to ensure that everything will be okay as long as we can still implement health protocol in every condition and everywhere. It is really painful to see many people are suffering because of this virus, jobless, bankrupt, and also other financial problems happen in most countries.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.
Many people also said that this virus is always related to politics, but, whatever the issue, I really hope that this virus can end soon (although it may be difficult). If there are govenrment, country, and whoever that utilize this pandemic in order to get self-profits for the shake of private ebenfits, it is really embarrassing.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Subbir on November 13, 2020, 12:24:22 PM
The spread of the disease cannot be reduced unless vaccines are available. Maintaining social distance is not possible to control the virus examination shows that many people are infected with this disease. People need to protect themselves by thinking about their own health benefits. Although the government has made the right decision many are not following this rule. Therefore, more allocation should be made in the health sector and everyone should be engaged in activities in compliance with the health rules until the vaccine is available.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on November 13, 2020, 01:31:12 PM
I really admire to the country that still zero case coronavirus, yeah there are some countrt like Taiwan and new zealend which still consistent to keep their country clean from coronavirus. It must be caused by the government that is really protecting and preserve all possibilities for the arrival of the virus. It is really different to my country who still fighting to the virus because per day there will be many people who infected.

Indeed, all country will definitely have each own way to deal with this situation. They want the situation back normally and see their people live without fear. And there is a good news for us if the coronavirus vaccine is already used, at least we still have a chance to make the situation back normally. But, I'm still hoping that the vaccine  can be used by everyone for free. The government should be responsible for this.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: qwertyup23 on November 13, 2020, 04:07:15 PM
The COVID-19 virus has significantly affected not just major businesses but also small and starting businesses in all countries affected. Not only did it cause so much economic and financial damage but it also affected job opportunities which contributed to increase in unemployment.
Unfortunately, even first world countries felt the damage caused by the virus. Imagine the people who are living in a third-world country where their job is essential for the needs of their family.

The spread of the disease cannot be reduced unless vaccines are available. Maintaining social distance is not possible to control the virus examination shows that many people are infected with this disease. People need to protect themselves by thinking about their own health benefits. Although the government has made the right decision many are not following this rule. Therefore, more allocation should be made in the health sector and everyone should be engaged in activities in compliance with the health rules until the vaccine is available.

That is true.

While some may take for granted the so called "social distancing", it is one of the effective solution in order to avoid the widespread of the virus from person-to-person. Less people who are affected means lower chances of acquiring the virus in the household.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Blackrain13 on November 13, 2020, 04:08:01 PM
If there is a specific medicine/vaccine for covid 19 virus then we are hoping that it is the end of corona virus. But, as long as there is no definite medicine yet, we can't avoid the virus to spread everywhere.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: bitgolden on November 13, 2020, 07:40:52 PM
Practically it is not going to be as simple as finding better politicians to make the world a better place, it is going to take a lot of decades just to even change the system we are in and that is what we are facing right now, a tough system that makes it harder for good people to be politicians.

First of all when you want to be a politician you need money, the main source of expense is to let other people know you are running for a position, if you do not get yourself heard even if you are the best person in the world people will not know you while your opponent spends tons of money to get heard, people pick politicians they heard over the ones they never heard before. When you need to spend that much money on just getting heard, it takes courage to spend it as well because you might lose too, and after all would be harder to pay it back or try again later. So, what ends up happening is bad people who are fine with corruption and bribery gets paid and gets elected and that is why we usually have bad politicians.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Fredomago on November 13, 2020, 07:46:58 PM
I really admire to the country that still zero case coronavirus, yeah there are some countrt like Taiwan and new zealend which still consistent to keep their country clean from coronavirus. It must be caused by the government that is really protecting and preserve all possibilities for the arrival of the virus. It is really different to my country who still fighting to the virus because per day there will be many people who infected.

Indeed, all country will definitely have each own way to deal with this situation. They want the situation back normally and see their people live without fear. And there is a good news for us if the coronavirus vaccine is already used, at least we still have a chance to make the situation back normally. But, I'm still hoping that the vaccine  can be used by everyone for free. The government should be responsible for this.

Government needs to shoulder this vaccine, it's simple way of carrying the loads knowing that everyone are affected by this virus. It's tough but it's very possible for the government to allocate funds for this cure, instead of throwing those money to each department where greed offices heads are taking advantage better to directly put it to this cause.

We are seeing hope even it's not the same setup anymore as people are already living in fear cause by this pandemic, but with the availability of this vaccine, that hope will live again, we just need to keep believing that we will survive and we will continue this life as long as we are still seeing another day.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: hahay on November 13, 2020, 07:56:10 PM
There is hope for an end to the coronavirus in every individual but something I doubt about is medicine. So far people who have been affected by the corona virus are quarantined and treated until finally there are patients who recover and die but then, because there is no more place for corona patients, at least there is a policy about those affected by the corona virus can self-quarantine at home. Well, what kind of vaccine is needed, because even self-quarantine at home can heal. I also hope that this pandemic will end, because even in this situation several tourist attractions have been opened but with new regulations requiring rapid testing first, while the cost for the rapid test itself is quite expensive and not everyone is willing to pay for it.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: barbara44 on November 13, 2020, 08:41:45 PM
When all of this corona virus period ends and we are freely going outside without masks and everything is back in track without any problems at all, bitcoin will eventually take a hit. I know this is not something we would like to hear, and maybe price will be 30k+ before that happens so when I mean "take a hit" it could be 2x of what it is today AFTER it crashes, so there is no worries about the current price, this is miles miles down the road and only will happen when everything is back to normal.

I see it as 16k today goes to 30+ in 6-12 months and crashing to 25k range after everyone is healthy and corona is not a problem, so even buying today would yield you profit. However when the world is back to normal, many companies and people will sell their crypto to go back to regular stocks which will start to recover better after corona is done with.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 13, 2020, 09:03:51 PM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

I think the word is not actually eliminated since we still don't have a vaccine. I think the appropriate word for it is to contain and the health workers focus on stopping the symptoms rather than the virus itself. If they can just contain who has the virus, they can stop the spreading although that is hard since most of the people won't admit they have the virus unless they are tested positive.

The sad thing about that is people tested positive will start to point fingers, start to blame it to someone, and usually, that ends up as the leaders, the government that is warning us, that always tells us that we need to take care, that we needed to be vigilant but most of us are not following.

What I'm saying is that it is not always the government, we also have mistakes and if we will linger to that mistakes and hate them throughout this hard year, do you think we could stop this faster? Without the people joining hands with the government and the government just doing things they wanted to do without actually focusing on what the people needed and what needs to be done, I don't think it will be that easy.
The problem is that government is not ready to reciprocate via making proper research to cure the the virus, but the virus is still getting eradicated since its existence, what they ready of is to broadcast the information of corona virus across the world and also giving the statistics of death rate involves and total numbers of people who has been in contact with the disease, but situations for make enquiry concerning adequate vaccine that stop the case  of the disease.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: CASTIEL05 on November 13, 2020, 09:28:27 PM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Many people are jubilating and celebrating due to end's or eradication of so called disease corona virus but not knowing that it was avenue bad leaders used to embezzle funds from her countries during the existence of the virus, but many people was against the people that portrays such in society that their is no corona virus in some countries, so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.
Corovirus becomes politics and business totally. When it first launched, citizens in my country is afraid of being infected. But look at it now, it seems that the enhanced protocol is useless because there are some people in my places who go in market without masks already. This pandemic only benefits those businessman and politicians. They just covered the news to media so that it brings intensity and fear in their citizens. We should wake up that we will be killed not because of Covid but by poverty and famine.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: CarnagexD on November 13, 2020, 09:47:26 PM
Unfortunately, due to poor governance, we may even have to wait for a vaccine just to get out of this stupid mess. Some countries especially those who took quick action like NZ have already rid themselves of the virus. Meaning we don't really meed a vaccine but a strict and sound contingency plan that will help eradicate the virus. But no, my country's more on stupid stuff so yeah.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: BuNga_cute on November 13, 2020, 11:13:18 PM
We all certainly hope that the corona virus can end as soon as possible, but in order to realize this desire, a vaccine is needed.
So pharmaceutical companies around the world are racing to create an effective vaccine. So we cannot get rid of the corona virus
without a vaccine, because we have to do quarantine frequently to be able to stop the spread of the corona virus without a vaccine.
But the effect is huge on the economy. So vaccine is the best solution to end the corona virus, although I know some countries whose
governments are corrupt use the corona vaccine for personal gain.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Oceat on November 13, 2020, 11:57:55 PM
We all certainly hope that the corona virus can end as soon as possible, but in order to realize this desire, a vaccine is needed.
So pharmaceutical companies around the world are racing to create an effective vaccine. So we cannot get rid of the corona virus
without a vaccine, because we have to do quarantine frequently to be able to stop the spread of the corona virus without a vaccine.
But the effect is huge on the economy. So vaccine is the best solution to end the corona virus, although I know some countries whose
governments are corrupt use the corona vaccine for personal gain.
A hope that there's a good vaccine that would come out soon such as done with testing and has less side effects or none. Unfortunately, this may take us to next year waiting for it so it's still not safe for everyone until next year. We'll just have to follow strict protocol to avoid getting COVID-19 because we all know how hard it is when being quarantined.

I still can't believe someone has the guts to make such viruses or is it just a coincidence that some random guy eat the bat then spread the virus itself all around the city? I don't know which one is the truth but I believe science prove already that there are viruses trapped in glacier and as the climate changes these huge chunk of ice is slowly melting thus, releasing those ancient viruses.

Do you think upper class people would create such viruses just to gain power? What power actually?


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Mahanton on November 13, 2020, 11:58:41 PM
Unfortunately, due to poor governance, we may even have to wait for a vaccine just to get out of this stupid mess. Some countries especially those who took quick action like NZ have already rid themselves of the virus. Meaning we don't really meed a vaccine but a strict and sound contingency plan that will help eradicate the virus. But no, my country's more on stupid stuff so yeah.

You wont able to say so because there are countries that are in ahead with technology and funding but do still lack with proper discipline into its citizens and knowing that they are
in bigger population and too big as a country then its really hard to control or isolate such virus unlike on smaller countries where if proper discipline plus good government handling in regards to
protocol then theres no doubt that it would be controlled somehow but doesnt mean that they would be totally covid-free country.We do need that vaccine but it would surely takes
time yet there would be lots of test samples that will really be needed before it would be produced officially.Taking the early doses will not really be that too appealing for my part
yet side effects havent been known.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Twinkledoe on November 13, 2020, 11:59:14 PM
Unfortunately, due to poor governance, we may even have to wait for a vaccine just to get out of this stupid mess. Some countries especially those who took quick action like NZ have already rid themselves of the virus. Meaning we don't really meed a vaccine but a strict and sound contingency plan that will help eradicate the virus. But no, my country's more on stupid stuff so yeah.

You wont able to say so because there are countries that are in ahead with technology and funding but do still lack with proper discipline into its citizens and knowing that they are
in bigger population and too big as a country then its really hard to control or isolate such virus unlike on smaller countries where if proper discipline plus good government handling in regards to
protocol then theres no doubt that it would be controlled somehow but doesnt mean that they would be totally covid-free country.We do need that vaccine but it would surely takes
time yet there would be lots of test samples that will really be needed before it would be produced officially.Taking the early doses will not really be that too appealing for my part
yet side effects havent been known.

I believe to really contain the continuous spread of the virus is to have vaccine. Because even if there are some countries that have very low number of cases owed to the discipline of its people, still to go back to at least normal life, is to have the vaccine. You will not be comfortable going out if you know that you will be vulnerable to infection anytime.

This virus will stay for long time in human history, and in time, scientists will come up to more potent vaccine that will eventually end this covid era. Just like other viruses that hit humanity.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Ayiranorea on November 14, 2020, 06:26:26 AM
Unfortunately, due to poor governance, we may even have to wait for a vaccine just to get out of this stupid mess. Some countries especially those who took quick action like NZ have already rid themselves of the virus. Meaning we don't really meed a vaccine but a strict and sound contingency plan that will help eradicate the virus. But no, my country's more on stupid stuff so yeah.

You wont able to say so because there are countries that are in ahead with technology and funding but do still lack with proper discipline into its citizens and knowing that they are
in bigger population and too big as a country then its really hard to control or isolate such virus unlike on smaller countries where if proper discipline plus good government handling in regards to
protocol then theres no doubt that it would be controlled somehow but doesnt mean that they would be totally covid-free country.We do need that vaccine but it would surely takes
time yet there would be lots of test samples that will really be needed before it would be produced officially.Taking the early doses will not really be that too appealing for my part
yet side effects havent been known.

I believe to really contain the continuous spread of the virus is to have vaccine. Because even if there are some countries that have very low number of cases owed to the discipline of its people, still to go back to at least normal life, is to have the vaccine. You will not be comfortable going out if you know that you will be vulnerable to infection anytime.

This virus will stay for long time in human history, and in time, scientists will come up to more potent vaccine that will eventually end this covid era. Just like other viruses that hit humanity.
Yes, with the vaccine only everyone can get back to the normal life. In comparison to the starting now the spread of virus is very low. It takes more and more time to have a perfect vaccine developed. For every vaccine to come out needs different phases of testing. Finding a vaccine is easy, but the after effects need to be analysed in depth. This is why it takes atleast an year to prepare a vaccine.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: iamsheikhadil on November 14, 2020, 06:27:30 AM
I think, our politicians aren't used to actually handle these type of things. These pandemic stuffs happen like so rare and once in a century or even rarer! Can't really blame them.

Corona isn't a very fatal virus specially for those with high immunity, so I think, it would be better to have herd immunity like getting infected and survive, so it won't infect again because of antibodies in our body which is created. It's going to take a while for the vaccine to be created though.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on November 14, 2020, 01:29:36 PM
I think, our politicians aren't used to actually handle these type of things. These pandemic stuffs happen like so rare and once in a century or even rarer! Can't really blame them.

Corona isn't a very fatal virus specially for those with high immunity, so I think, it would be better to have herd immunity like getting infected and survive, so it won't infect again because of antibodies in our body which is created. It's going to take a while for the vaccine to be created though.
No one really knows or expects that the pandemic would come in our lives, that is why the government wasn't ready on how to solve this kind of huge problem in their country. We shouldn't also blame everything to our government even they make wrong decisions because it isn't easy to lead a country, and we still have the rights to follow them to avoid spreading the virus.

Having a vaccine is really the only solution to defeat or cure the virus, but making a vaccine or a cure for the virus is a long time progress just to provide every citizens all over the world.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: tbterryboy on November 14, 2020, 04:19:28 PM
If there is a specific medicine/vaccine for covid 19 virus then we are hoping that it is the end of corona virus. But, as long as there is no definite medicine yet, we can't avoid the virus to spread everywhere.
A vaccine is out if you have been following the news. There were so many organizations working on creating vaccine for coronavirus and Pfizer is the first to come up with one that works. So, since we now have a vaccine, it’s a matter of when it’s going to be available and how many they will be able to produce this year to be able to get a lot of people vaccinated and help in preventing the virus.

There is no need to be afraid, the virus is not going to spread everywhere and moreover there have been people who went through it and still came out alive and healthy, so it’s not a death sentence. But everyone should be doing their possible best to stay safe.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: doomloop on November 14, 2020, 06:43:12 PM
This virus did the same for everywhere, messed up everything and made a lot of people to be so damn broke. It wasn’t easy, and the worst part is that the economy wasn’t helping at all, the price for foodstuffs were going up and before you know it you have spent up all your money because of food. So, it wasn’t easy at all.

As for you blaming your country’s government, well, that’s like a normal thing almost everyone did; like in my country the government didn’t lockdown our borders earlier and prevent people from going in and out, and that led to more and more cases being found and by the time they decide to lockdown it was already late and number of cases were growing.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: BITCOIN4X on November 14, 2020, 06:58:40 PM
This virus did the same for everywhere, messed up everything and made a lot of people to be so damn broke. It wasn’t easy, and the worst part is that the economy wasn’t helping at all, the price for foodstuffs were going up and before you know it you have spent up all your money because of food. So, it wasn’t easy at all.
This virus attack almost all countries in the world and has become a weapon of economic disruption for the country and also the world. There is nothing wrong with blaming the government for its effort to prevent and handle these case. They can still absorb fund from various source only because some of them are corrupt and the small people have to bear the consequences of greed. The cost of living has increased, social welfare has decreased and many people have lost their jobs.

However, it seem that now thing are getting better, especially in the country or where I live because all community activities are running smoothly like all but still adhere to health protocol. I am sure the virus is still there, but it seem that people are no longer afraid to carry out activities so that the worst impact on the economy and welfare can be minimized.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: jaysabi on November 14, 2020, 11:15:38 PM
I think, our politicians aren't used to actually handle these type of things. These pandemic stuffs happen like so rare and once in a century or even rarer! Can't really blame them.

Corona isn't a very fatal virus specially for those with high immunity, so I think, it would be better to have herd immunity like getting infected and survive, so it won't infect again because of antibodies in our body which is created. It's going to take a while for the vaccine to be created though.
No one really knows or expects that the pandemic would come in our lives, that is why the government wasn't ready on how to solve this kind of huge problem in their country. We shouldn't also blame everything to our government even they make wrong decisions because it isn't easy to lead a country, and we still have the rights to follow them to avoid spreading the virus.

Having a vaccine is really the only solution to defeat or cure the virus, but making a vaccine or a cure for the virus is a long time progress just to provide every citizens all over the world.

Even with a vaccine, things may not go back to normal. There's some indication that the virus will be like the flu where the virus may be somewhat effective against certain strains but it mutates year-to-year and we still have a Covid season like there is a flu season. Covid may be here to stay going forward.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: aesma on November 14, 2020, 11:17:40 PM
Not to rain on anyone's parade but I've just seen a doctor say on TV that with people getting the vaccine starting in January, we will see the effect after 6 months.

So 6 more months having to deal with social distanciation, intermittent lockdowns, work from home...

Probably good for Bitcoin, bad for the economy.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: TopT3ns on November 14, 2020, 11:46:21 PM
Not to rain on anyone's parade but I've just seen a doctor say on TV that with people getting the vaccine starting in January, we will see the effect after 6 months.

So 6 more months having to deal with social distanciation, intermittent lockdowns, work from home...

Probably good for Bitcoin, bad for the economy.
The problem is we all don't know what will happen to the vaccine for the next 6 months, if it is good then this vaccine will not have any effect, but if this vaccine breaks then it is likely that humans will be exposed to more deadly viruses than the current virus that is spreading, because the corona vaccine is indeed a faster manufacturing process.

We all know that vaccines can generally be used after 8-10 years of development and research so that we can know that the vaccine is safe to use and tested for the long term.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: plast555 on November 15, 2020, 01:35:18 AM
Few days back we have very good news about new vaccine is ready and working to end nearly 90% of this virus but still its going to take sometime because its not easy for all countries to have this all very quickly start their work in this way right now developed countries giving their orders and have some big amount in companies for this all and after this some poor and developing countries are going to have this all which will take time and until now they have to face this all even some good number of casualties.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Sapphire915 on November 15, 2020, 02:13:02 AM
I got your points here. Based on my observation here in my country, it seems that the Government are just using this Corona Virus disease as an excuse and shield through all the corruptions that was being made in any national departments. We had been fighting for several months and we clearly saw how the Governments in each countries handled this crisis so far. And its a shame that severe corruptions had been exposed here in my country, and a lot of people are struggling without getting any assistance from the Government. Its really sad to realized that some highest leaders were spending those money that supposed to be for the people. I really hope and pray that this covid-19 crisis will end soonest and we can all recover from all the losses.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: DevilSlayer on November 15, 2020, 12:01:38 PM
I think, our politicians aren't used to actually handle these type of things. These pandemic stuffs happen like so rare and once in a century or even rarer! Can't really blame them.

Corona isn't a very fatal virus specially for those with high immunity, so I think, it would be better to have herd immunity like getting infected and survive, so it won't infect again because of antibodies in our body which is created. It's going to take a while for the vaccine to be created though.
There are a lot of politicians who have a hard time controlling the virus and there are only few politicians who reverse the growth of the active cases in just weeks like the good governance of Taiwan and also Vietnam where they easily beat the covid 19. We cannot blame the government if we are experiencing hard time due to the pandemic, what we can do is to follow the strict protocol that they are given in the public. It must be follow in order for us to see the decrease of the covid infection in different communities. The recovery rate in my country is now increasing and it is because of the system that is continuing to improve. I'm one of the people who are hoping that a vaccine will already finished before the 2020 ends.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: vlast01 on November 15, 2020, 02:57:03 PM
Pandemic sure changes everything and people have to adjust on these changes. These changes have brought a big impact in every each life in every each country and up till now everyone are trying their best to survive. Most economies are under going recession, Demand on Fiat money have decreased, Every transaction are done online, Economy production have been severe, price of goods have been doubled and the end of these pandemic hasn't seems yet due to complication on the production of vaccine.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Mauser on November 15, 2020, 03:06:30 PM
The new vaccine by Pfizer and biontech looks really promising. With a 90% immunity it could really be the breakthrough we desperately need. The government already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine and with grown people needing 2 shots it would mean that around 65-70% of the population could be vaccined. The only thing I am scared of is the side effects, there is not much information available yet.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: cheecko1122 on November 15, 2020, 03:09:10 PM
I think that there are so many corrupt persons in government of several countries but they are working some how for their peoples, many media persons are investigating and exposing them. for virus end I have heard that pfizer pharma have announced corona medicine but dont know when it will come to market and available for all peoples of all countries. But for sure we have to be carefully and try to defeat the virus with our positivity and will power.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Axelseseclevz on November 15, 2020, 04:07:17 PM
If vaccine is ready , then we can say that it could be the end of corona virus because we already have weapon to fight against it. But as long as vaccine is not ready and there is no tentative date if when it will become available in all countries, then we should still take care of ourselves and continue to follow the health protocol so that we can avoid to become affected of that virus.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Fortify on November 15, 2020, 04:15:47 PM
It is nice to see the world have a common enemy that isn't each other, so many things have changed in the last year and it has really put life into perspective. The fact that there are multiple possible vaccines, being created in several different countries, shows the ingenuity that people can put into a task that can save billions of lives. If only we put as much effort into protecting the environment and wildlife, many more things could be accomplished. Along with keeping your distance and lots more testing abilities, it is looking increasingly likely that we will be able to get back to normal after a year of disaster. The sooner we can put 2020 behind us, the better :)


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Fredomago on November 15, 2020, 04:20:15 PM
The new vaccine by Pfizer and biontech looks really promising. With a 90% immunity it could really be the breakthrough we desperately need. The government already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine and with grown people needing 2 shots it would mean that around 65-70% of the population could be vaccined. The only thing I am scared of is the side effects, there is not much information available yet.

Its really  good to know that the possible vaccines are already available,  it will be the answer  for all those hope that everyone are looking for, possible to live now like normal just incase that  this vaccine really  works and cure all  those people that still infected  by this virus,  many of us are still scared with how this pandemic affects the whole world.

The only thing is that possible side effects of this vaccine we are not sure if it's 100% free from  anything that may affects  us, maybe it won't be there  after you take the shot but the possibilities that there's  something that may affects the immune  system or something that will  lead our bodies to suffer after some years.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: jaysabi on November 15, 2020, 09:06:45 PM
The new vaccine by Pfizer and biontech looks really promising. With a 90% immunity it could really be the breakthrough we desperately need. The government already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine and with grown people needing 2 shots it would mean that around 65-70% of the population could be vaccined. The only thing I am scared of is the side effects, there is not much information available yet.

One study has shown it to be 90% effective, but it still hasn't been shown to be safe.  Those are two separate issues, and the latter is what is still yet to be reviewed before it can be submitted to the FDA for approval.  Plenty of drugs have been derailed because they were effective but not safe for human consumption due to side effects.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: finaleshot2016 on November 15, 2020, 11:02:49 PM
The new vaccine by Pfizer and biontech looks really promising. With a 90% immunity it could really be the breakthrough we desperately need. The government already ordered 100 million doses of the vaccine and with grown people needing 2 shots it would mean that around 65-70% of the population could be vaccined. The only thing I am scared of is the side effects, there is not much information available yet.

One study has shown it to be 90% effective, but it still hasn't been shown to be safe.  Those are two separate issues, and the latter is what is still yet to be reviewed before it can be submitted to the FDA for approval.  Plenty of drugs have been derailed because they were effective but not safe for human consumption due to side effects.
There are plenty of vaccines that can definitely protect your body from the virus but it's not guaranteed that it has no side effects. They should implement more trials before using it in the people, we aren't sure of it yet. If this is 100% safe, then it might the solution for our world to recover and go back to normal. The economy of different nations will also recover.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 17, 2020, 03:43:30 AM
If vaccine is ready , then we can say that it could be the end of corona virus because we already have weapon to fight against it. But as long as vaccine is not ready and there is no tentative date if when it will become available in all countries, then we should still take care of ourselves and continue to follow the health protocol so that we can avoid to become affected of that virus.
There are not working serseriously to speed up the vaccine production, if really these virus is effective in every country this would have be the result of every thing and if I said that government is not helping matter for these virus, many people will react negatively towards it, because some people work with government.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: raidarksword on November 17, 2020, 03:42:11 PM
Yes, everyone are hoping and praying that this pandemic will be over and get back to our lives once in for all. We have also high hopes about the vaccine having great improvements day by day that we are capable of betting corona virus. That's why we should never be complacent even a bit because if we do our efforts for eight months will be wasted for nothing and we will suffer back again with the anxiety as well. Not until vaccine is not yet full develop, we still have to be vigilant and exercise safety protocols always.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: pixie85 on November 17, 2020, 04:47:34 PM
If vaccine is ready , then we can say that it could be the end of corona virus because we already have weapon to fight against it. But as long as vaccine is not ready and there is no tentative date if when it will become available in all countries, then we should still take care of ourselves and continue to follow the health protocol so that we can avoid to become affected of that virus.

If you need the vaccine to survive, how is it that you're not sick by now or dead? Before the vaccine goes to normal use and becomes available around the world many months will pass.

How are you going to survive until then if the vaccine is so dangerous and deadly. What if it is not? What if the vaccine is just another way for corporations and governments to make money out of something most people will never really need?



Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: oHnK on November 17, 2020, 04:59:36 PM
There are plenty of vaccines that can definitely protect your body from the virus but it's not guaranteed that it has no side effects. They should implement more trials before using it in the people, we aren't sure of it yet. If this is 100% safe, then it might the solution for our world to recover and go back to normal. The economy of different nations will also recover.

As far as I know, if a vaccine is 100% safe it has to be tested for years, and looking back at the start of the new pandemic about 8 months ago, what do we expect from a vaccine that was more or less developed in less than.  a year.  The end of this pandemic may be several years in the future because at that time a vaccine that is truly effective and safe will emerge.  However, if you look at the charts in several countries, cases of Covid-19 infection are still not flat.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: atjiat on November 17, 2020, 06:04:44 PM
There are plenty of vaccines that can definitely protect your body from the virus but it's not guaranteed that it has no side effects. They should implement more trials before using it in the people, we aren't sure of it yet. If this is 100% safe, then it might the solution for our world to recover and go back to normal. The economy of different nations will also recover.

As far as I know, if a vaccine is 100% safe it has to be tested for years, and looking back at the start of the new pandemic about 8 months ago, what do we expect from a vaccine that was more or less developed in less than.  a year.  The end of this pandemic may be several years in the future because at that time a vaccine that is truly effective and safe will emerge.  However, if you look at the charts in several countries, cases of Covid-19 infection are still not flat.
New vaccine developments in many countries have primarily an economic and political environment, which in reality can be very different from the real state of affairs. In addition, there are certain examples that specific countries have already tried to manipulate various news regarding the victory over the pandemic, and today they announce a valid vaccine.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: AndySt on November 17, 2020, 10:38:56 PM
This pandemic has shown people the real color of the government. I'm not saying that all politicians and leaders are corrupt but lots of corrupt leaders just took advantage of the situation. I think it's an eye-opener for everyone to choose their leaders wisely. We should choose leaders who know how to handle difficult situations like this pandemic honestly. I just hope that this pandemic would come to an end so we could all go back to our normal lives again.
Corrupt leaders are not born out of a vacuum immediately infected with the Bacillus of corruption. If a new leader comes to power, then in order to fight the previous elite, he begins to attract his supporters to the Executive authorities, as well as try to thank the business representatives who supported the candidate during the election campaign and that they provide financial support to the initiatives of the new team. All this is the representatives of the previous elite, pushed away from the trough, will be called corruption as you are, if you liked the old team. But those in power will have their own opinion on this issue ;) And the pandemic is unlikely to change that.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: MCobian on November 17, 2020, 11:10:28 PM
I am optimistic that the corona virus will end soon, because several pharmaceutical companies have found an effective vaccine.
Currently, the highlight of Moderna's newest vaccine is proven to be nearly 95% effective. Even though before that there was
a vaccine by Pfizer and Biontech which was proven to be 90% effective, I hope that in the future we can find a more vaccine with
an effectiveness of close to 100%. Because the corona virus can end if all the vaccines that are proven to be effective can be
distributed immediately throughout the world.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: baundul on November 18, 2020, 02:49:29 PM
Looking at the statistics, I noticed that the rate at which people are dying in road accidents every day is almost the same as the rate at which people are being killed by CODIV-19. The vaccines that have hit the market are 95% effective. From here it seems to me that politics with COVID-19 is going on like a world war. worldometers (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?) told COVID Deaths:1,346,637 every year and cdc (https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/global-road-safety/index.html) told Road accident 1.35 million people die every year. The media is very much concerned about whether the vaccine will come in the market or not. The media created by COVID-19 has made a big monster through politics.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: oHnK on November 18, 2020, 02:49:57 PM
New vaccine developments in many countries have primarily an economic and political environment, which in reality can be very different from the real state of affairs. In addition, there are certain examples that specific countries have already tried to manipulate various news regarding the victory over the pandemic, and today they announce a valid vaccine.

Any problem that occurs in a country cannot be separated from conspiracy theories. What do you believe, could be a small part of the conspiracy that happened. It is possible that in the midst of a big problem some people become wolves in sheep's clothing. Behind his kindness, it turns out that he has benefited a lot from his victims. Pandemics, vaccines, and the economy could be boon for some. And be a disaster for some others. What we have to do now is think of a way out in the middle of this problem. One of them is Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Wulan_maniez on November 18, 2020, 07:37:42 PM
The coronavirus pandemic is very damaging to the world economy because of the onset of economic “wound”.
Many companies are being roll mat because of business closures around the world that have led to layoffs of hundreds of millions of people,
and longer unemployed people, making it harder for the wheels of the economy to rise faster than expected.

But in this difficult situation, there are indeed some people who misuse the funds to handle the corona outbreak into a loophole for corruption.
So there are many people who don’t get funding because of corruption.
Anyone wants the covid-19 pandemic to end quickly, but no one can be sure when the covid-19 outbreak will end, which increases the chances of a crisis.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Indymoney on November 18, 2020, 07:44:22 PM
I am optimistic that the corona virus will end soon, because several pharmaceutical companies have found an effective vaccine.
Currently, the highlight of Moderna's newest vaccine is proven to be nearly 95% effective. Even though before that there was
a vaccine by Pfizer and Biontech which was proven to be 90% effective, I hope that in the future we can find a more vaccine with
an effectiveness of close to 100%. Because the corona virus can end if all the vaccines that are proven to be effective can be
distributed immediately throughout the world.
I am not feeling in this way because now its not going to end completely still we need some good time and many other good things to do this all right now just Vaccine is in early stages and need more then 6 months to have all positive results so if someone feeling in this way then surely he needs to be wait with patience in developing countries we already have many deases those are still exist even end in mostly around developed world so its not easy to end this all very quickly.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: inoes on November 18, 2020, 11:20:55 PM
Amen, I hope the corona virus will really disappear soon.starting with the viral news, then the virus.
 I 70% believe that Covid-19 is politicized, because I feel it myself. where several favorable state policies (Presidential Election, regional head elections, campaigns) are not prohibited and seem very calm. while for hanging out and just shopping at the mall is very limited. We haven't talked about rapid tests and economics ... it's all complex.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Shasha80 on November 19, 2020, 01:55:03 AM
We all want this Covid 19 pandemic to end quickly. Many scientists have already created anti-virus to save the world and people.
But in reality, it’s not easy. Covid-19 handlers to protect a person from coronavirus can be prevented by using health protocols.
But we are all still worried, because even by using health protocols, there are still many people infected with the coronavirus.

Not to mention because of the effects of pandemics, many people do not eat, because it does not work even the government helps its people
by providing a supply of aid in the form of food and money. However, this help was not as smooth as expected,
as there is still misuse of aid funds by irresponsible people.
Sometimes the current situation makes the situation more difficult and natural if many people are down.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Sithara007 on November 19, 2020, 04:18:03 AM
Amen, I hope the corona virus will really disappear soon.starting with the viral news, then the virus.
 I 70% believe that Covid-19 is politicized, because I feel it myself. where several favorable state policies (Presidential Election, regional head elections, campaigns) are not prohibited and seem very calm. while for hanging out and just shopping at the mall is very limited. We haven't talked about rapid tests and economics ... it's all complex.

It will be there for sometime. Although the vaccines are available, it may take another 5-6 months to distribute them (and none of the vaccine manufacturers have yet received the approval). On top of that the vaccine is 90%-95% effective, which means that we will be witnessing isolated cases even after the mass vaccination campaign. So I would say that we may need to deal with this monster virus for another 12 months or so.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: matchi2011 on November 19, 2020, 06:35:29 AM
Amen, I hope the corona virus will really disappear soon.starting with the viral news, then the virus.
 I 70% believe that Covid-19 is politicized, because I feel it myself. where several favorable state policies (Presidential Election, regional head elections, campaigns) are not prohibited and seem very calm. while for hanging out and just shopping at the mall is very limited. We haven't talked about rapid tests and economics ... it's all complex.

It will be there for sometime. Although the vaccines are available, it may take another 5-6 months to distribute them (and none of the vaccine manufacturers have yet received the approval). On top of that the vaccine is 90%-95% effective, which means that we will be witnessing isolated cases even after the mass vaccination campaign. So I would say that we may need to deal with this monster virus for another 12 months or so.

Allow that time frame since there are still lots of things to deal with even the vaccine are now showing up, it's a good news because the
possibilities that we will be able live the life that we normally have is almost at our grasp.

Side effects if ever may appear after some time once mass vaccinations are already been done, we don't know what this vaccine
may bring or whatever problem may appear.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: kolbalish on November 19, 2020, 10:00:31 AM
May be its effect will decrease and any solution will be invented for this. If this situation running in this way there will be no option to handle the world economy. Prevention is a must for the pandemic to save the world. If any vaccine founded then people can be relief and life will back to its form.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Karartma1 on November 19, 2020, 10:05:13 AM
The MSM, after the third vaccine-related news, is slowly abandoning the all doom and gloom mood for a more "hey, we are almost there, wait for the vaccine and everything will play out well". Recently, I see the doom and gloom cloud is turning to the economy again. It seems that only China is growing in every economic sector as we speak, while all the other g20s are still lagging behind. Crazy times for sure. Hope this shit is gonna end soon.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: AjithBtc on November 19, 2020, 03:35:07 PM
In the upcoming days its really a good thing to hear that it's a end of corona attack. In many nations the covid-19 attack is still a incurable curse for which the cause is a hidden treasure. Recently to stop this corona transmission, vaccines are getting developed that has undergone various trials. 95% post immune surveillance is successful so far in European countries It is mandatory to vaccinate every individual in all nations than selecting only few countries.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Renampun on November 19, 2020, 05:32:22 PM
May be its effect will decrease and any solution will be invented for this. If this situation running in this way there will be no option to handle the world economy. Prevention is a must for the pandemic to save the world. If any vaccine founded then people can be relief and life will back to its form.
prevention is no longer possible because the spread of the corona is out of control...
many residents are tired of wearing masks and carrying hand sanitizers when they are outside. our only hope is a vaccine, hopefully, a vaccine will be found soon.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Anyobsss on November 19, 2020, 08:17:05 PM
Yesterday it was announced, that the cure is almost ready and helps in 90% of the cases. But dont forget that the virus evolves also and we need time for real testing period.

Still there is no 100% confirmation how people get sick. People that are on a lockdown, was hands and wear masks in crowded places still manage to fall victim to a virus.

I dont think that cure can help. People just need to build immunity to it. When catch covid-19, in two weeks it either dies by itself thanks to your immune system, or does harm to you.

This is really good news since covid has really affected our life literally. Many lost their job and companies closed down due to it. Hoping that this news will not make people confident. It is still better to wash hands and wear mask whenever going outside your home. It Is still recommended to be extra careful since we don't see the virus and it can be anywhere.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 19, 2020, 09:37:01 PM
Looking at the statistics, I noticed that the rate at which people are dying in road accidents every day is almost the same as the rate at which people are being killed by CODIV-19. The vaccines that have hit the market are 95% effective. From here it seems to me that politics with COVID-19 is going on like a world war. worldometers (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?) told COVID Deaths:1,346,637 every year and cdc (https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/global-road-safety/index.html) told Road accident 1.35 million people die every year. The media is very much concerned about whether the vaccine will come in the market or not. The media created by COVID-19 has made a big monster through politics.
Shall it really equivalent to deaths occur through malaria and road accident as you said, the only difference between them is that malaria death occurrence is not really counted as a problem of countries recently and their is no law that guide the disease of malaria especially lockdown, so considering road accident rate, I will like to say that death of road accident may be higher than  death that occur in corona virus.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: zeingrind777 on November 20, 2020, 02:57:28 AM
Looking at the statistics, I noticed that the rate at which people are dying in road accidents every day is almost the same as the rate at which people are being killed by CODIV-19. The vaccines that have hit the market are 95% effective. From here it seems to me that politics with COVID-19 is going on like a world war. worldometers (https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?) told COVID Deaths:1,346,637 every year and cdc (https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/global-road-safety/index.html) told Road accident 1.35 million people die every year. The media is very much concerned about whether the vaccine will come in the market or not. The media created by COVID-19 has made a big monster through politics.
Shall it really equivalent to deaths occur through malaria and road accident as you said, the only difference between them is that malaria death occurrence is not really counted as a problem of countries recently and their is no law that guide the disease of malaria especially lockdown, so considering road accident rate, I will like to say that death of road accident may be higher than  death that occur in corona virus.
I'm also not sure that the current coronavirus is so dangerous as media and politicians say. Last September we staged a demonstration in front of the government building which was attended by thousands of demonstrators. many demonstrators did not wear masks, but none of the demonstrators was infected by covid 19. The most dangerous virus in my opinion is the hunger virus. social disparities in my country have resulted in many deaths from hunger. but the media and government turn a blind eye to this.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: erikoy on November 20, 2020, 06:18:44 AM
Most of us are really hoping to end this pandemic and so that we can get back to the real normal. It is so hard these days that affecting the community on how we have move within the community observing the minimum requirements to observe not to get the virus because the virus can easily spread. Hopefullt all of the restrictions will going to end soon.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Saisher on November 20, 2020, 08:07:24 AM
Amen, I hope the corona virus will really disappear soon.starting with the viral news, then the virus.
 I 70% believe that Covid-19 is politicized, because I feel it myself. where several favorable state policies (Presidential Election, regional head elections, campaigns) are not prohibited and seem very calm. while for hanging out and just shopping at the mall is very limited. We haven't talked about rapid tests and economics ... it's all complex.

Politicians are taking this opportunity to be very relevant whether they are in position or not, some of things they do back fire and some are admirable, in this time of pandemic the people can now test how their elected politicians behave in times of pandemic, there is a saying here that the pandemic show us how good or bad our elected politicians.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: GelatikKembar on November 20, 2020, 10:18:18 AM
2020 still won't be the end of the corona virus, moreover the vaccine is still not in circulation,
this will be a tough year for everyone, and 2020 is a few weeks away,
if 2021 still doesn't have a vaccine I think the world should be a new normal.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Janation on November 20, 2020, 11:20:22 AM
A country can stop the pandemic without the vaccine.

But that is not that easy. The countries that did it know what they are doing and they laid a plan and they are swift when it comes to new cases. The people and the government trust each other. The problem is not the government, it is true that they committed mistakes but people also have their fair share when it comes to mistakes. It is not always the government, each end of the rope has its shares.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Gemini24 on November 21, 2020, 09:30:52 AM
Each one of us has a role to play in working together to eradicate this virus that is destroying the economy of every country. We cannot always blame the government, maybe they also commit mistakes as also ordinary people used to do. We all need to cooperate with each other, just like what the government restricting to always wear mask when you have to go outside, but some people missed to comply.We really had a hard time this year 2020, and everybody hoping that this pandemic will come to an end soon.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Ladyvirgo on November 21, 2020, 02:48:46 PM
        we all hope that this corona virus will end soon.because so many people are suffering because of the pandemic that is spreading around the world.everyone also hopes to find a cure for the corona virus.because of this
    pandemic many lives were lost  and business closed and many workers lost their jobs.everyone hoped that the corona virus would be over so that people would have to live normally without having to wear a mask when
    they leave the house.study in normal education and can also open other establishments that have closed due to the impact of the pandemic.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Majharul Saiif on November 21, 2020, 05:31:52 PM
Corona is not only the problem of the nation, it's the problem of the world. It hampers the whole generation badly. And the economy is in the way of destroying. So the end of coronavirus is not only the hope but aa also a prayer for this time.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Tahamina321 on November 26, 2020, 09:50:40 AM
There are all the time camps that profit, as a result of the ranks of the federal government is capable of handle the system in accordance with what they need to be fortified with legal guidelines that solely aspect with the higher center class. Particularly for individuals who simply embezzle funds whatever the quantity. Do not take into consideration the effect of the corona disaster which is presently more and more taboo. The reason being, the complicated information appears to be a play for political actors to advance their pursuits. Relating to the coronavirus that's occurring in Africa, I'm additionally involved, a rustic with a financial disaster plus a virus that's now bombarding the nation. I hope all international locations want sympathy with what African international locations are experiencing. particularly the ranks of the United Nations.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: bryant.coleman on November 26, 2020, 11:10:32 AM
I think there are very few countries that are corruption rate is much lower. The progress of a country is heavily reliant on its leader. But also needs to do our job for being a responsible member of our society. Only blaming politicians will not solve anything. At first, we need to change ourselves. If we keep a social distance from the beginning this pandemic would never be caused so much problem.

There is no point in blaming the politicians, when citizens refuse to follow the orders. In many parts of the world, the request for maintaining social distancing and wearing of masks were ignored. If people had abided by the instructions, then at least the rate at which the pandemic spread through the general population could have slowed down.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Twinscoin2017 on November 26, 2020, 08:53:29 PM
I think there are very few countries that are corruption rate is much lower. The progress of a country is heavily reliant on its leader. But also needs to do our job for being a responsible member of our society. Only blaming politicians will not solve anything. At first, we need to change ourselves. If we keep a social distance from the beginning this pandemic would never be caused so much problem.

There is no point in blaming the politicians, when citizens refuse to follow the orders. In many parts of the world, the request for maintaining social distancing and wearing of masks were ignored. If people had abided by the instructions, then at least the rate at which the pandemic spread through the general population could have slowed down.
i agree on that some people are really hard headed, government are always making warning about how corona virus infect or affect everyone and they always say wear mask, stay at home, etc, but some people are always refusing them, we cannot blame anyone this time of pandemic we really need patient and we also need to help each other to survive.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: 7788bitcoin on November 26, 2020, 09:09:05 PM
There is no point in blaming the politicians, when citizens refuse to follow the orders. In many parts of the world, the request for maintaining social distancing and wearing of masks were ignored. If people had abided by the instructions, then at least the rate at which the pandemic spread through the general population could have slowed down.
Absolutely on point, citizens refuse to follow anything that is asked to do for their own protection and yet they neglect the safety protocols and roam around without giving a rats ass about the pandemic situation we are going through and there is nothing that can be done to change that, either the government should impose heavy penalty for people who violate these basic rules, only enforcing can make a difference in a situation like this.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: SaShiRaJaVu on November 26, 2020, 11:10:30 PM
i agree on that some people are really hard headed, government are always making warning about how corona virus infect or affect everyone and they always say wear mask, stay at home, etc, but some people are always refusing them, we cannot blame anyone this time of pandemic we really need patient and we also need to help each other to survive.
It is not about hard headed, it is nonsense to the highest level and these people who does not take the precautions will only learn from hard experience, if someone from their family gets infected and they die because of the complications then they will learn about the seriousness of the situation. The virus might not affect the healthy but everyone need to think about your old people in your family before taking these decisions.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Negotiation on November 27, 2020, 08:50:17 AM
Ordinary people are not aware due to their lack of awareness it is not possible to change the virus at all Everyone is moving according to their own wishes No one is maintaining social distance after having government directives. Politicians can do nothing here People need to keep a distance for their own safety and wear masks outside the house politicians and the government can do nothing if we are not aware as a responsible citizen for epidemic control everything must be complied with.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: samputin on November 28, 2020, 08:44:21 AM
I think there are very few countries that are corruption rate is much lower. The progress of a country is heavily reliant on its leader. But also needs to do our job for being a responsible member of our society. Only blaming politicians will not solve anything. At first, we need to change ourselves. If we keep a social distance from the beginning this pandemic would never be caused so much problem.

There is no point in blaming the politicians, when citizens refuse to follow the orders. In many parts of the world, the request for maintaining social distancing and wearing of masks were ignored. If people had abided by the instructions, then at least the rate at which the pandemic spread through the general population could have slowed down.
That's the hypocrisy of some people, I guess. They would not follow the protocols, the rules, etc, then when something bad happens to them, the blame all goes to the politicians and to the government for having bad governance. Like, really? They (some citizens) act as if they don't have anything to do with it. Sometimes, it's not always about the politicians. It's also about the discipline of the people.


Title: Re: Hoping that its the end of corona virus
Post by: Traderbtcc on November 28, 2020, 11:38:57 AM
Corona virus really made people cry and lost potentialities of life living, because during it's season in my country so many people passed through hardship Even up-to-date the mess of corona virus over turned the situations of life, but in my country I noticed that the virus came because of politicians in the country and was eliminated just without drugs, so if I may ask is it possible corona virus to be eliminated without drugs?

Many people are jubilating and celebrating due to end's or eradication of so called disease corona virus but not knowing that it was avenue bad leaders used to embezzle funds from her countries during the existence of the virus, but many people was against the people that portrays such in society that their is no corona virus in some countries, so the evidence is clear that some African countries don't have corona virus vaccines till date but the disease was treated perfectly.

Everyone should know that bad leaders corrupt country, such as president, Governors, senators and ministers of the country because based on their positive management their economy keep on accelerating and its negative management brings economy down which is caused funds embezzlement by politicians.
The Corona virus came as a shock to the world as countries began to shutdown as a way to prevent the spread of the virus, no doubts alot of people got affected by it,but even in the midst of crisis some leaders saw it as a means of embezzle money, just like in my country the government collected several loans from top countries, claiming that they are going to share food items to everyone (which they never shared) during the period of lockdown, just about 2 or 3 weeks ago the citizens discovered and looted warehouses loaded with all the items the government claimed to have shared to the people during the lock down, they held back all those food items while their citizens were dying of starvation, this is a sign of real bad governance.