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Title: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: TurboMole on November 14, 2020, 10:03:35 AM
 ???Just like trading through my wallet but not exchange.

Better trading through my iPhone


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on November 14, 2020, 10:38:48 AM
What is that you're looking for exactly? A decentralized exchange?

Also, just to be clear, the wallets that allow you to trade are using other exchanges API, so you are basically using the exchange whenever you're using the swap feature.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: TurboMole on November 14, 2020, 11:29:20 AM
What is that you're looking for exactly? A decentralized exchange?

Also, just to be clear, the wallets that allow you to trade are using other exchanges API, so you are basically using the exchange whenever you're using the swap feature.

hmm... Just like the uniswap but trading BTC or ETH derivatives rather than erc20 tokens. in other words, do we have a project like "a derivatives uniswap"?


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: OmegaStarScream on November 14, 2020, 01:23:33 PM
hmm... Just like the uniswap but trading BTC or ETH derivatives rather than erc20 tokens. in other words, do we have a project like "a derivatives uniswap"?

Yes, THORChain is supposed to help with that. The platform is still under development though, so it might take some time until we see it fully operational.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: silviafufu on November 15, 2020, 09:56:11 AM
I'm guessing this is asking about DEX that specialises in derivatives. Such as MCDEX, Dy/Dx, Powertrade etc


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: dingjoys on November 20, 2020, 02:47:49 AM
I'm guessing this is asking about DEX that specialises in derivatives. Such as MCDEX, Dy/Dx, Powertrade etc

There ain't enough pairs supported there.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: joniboini on November 20, 2020, 08:13:17 AM
Try Synthetix-based derivatives exchange such as Kwenta. You can view the list at https://www.synthetix.io/.

Not sure about the volume though, probably not as good as you expected. DEX-based derivative exchange in general is still behind spot market.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: Subbir on November 20, 2020, 01:23:47 PM
Decentralized derivatives are the main dex project we are definitely in a cryptocurrency bubble. The reason people over-evaluate bubbles is because no one outside of cryptocurrency niches will miss them if they disappear tomorrow. There is no clear path to a killer application that can go mainstream. Although Dex performed well in the market the demand has decreased a lot. In the case of derivatives will take a long time to get started Bitcoin is better with a huge amount of transaction processing.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: TurboMole on November 20, 2020, 01:31:58 PM
Guys you are awesome.  But the question is... the above is not likely a Uniswap trading derivative and I cannot find some implementation contracts(Like Thorchain).

Just wanna some dApp that could be running on my imtoken wallet and trading derivative like uniswap (no order books)


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: FanEagle on November 20, 2020, 06:27:03 PM
I guess not yet, it is definitely something that could be done and it will probably done but I do not know any that is famous enough yet, there are none that I heard of but I am not ignorant or snob enough to say just because I haven't heard it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist but since I am here almost all day and working with crypto every single day, if I didn't hear it, it can't be too huge and if it is not too big that means the volume probably is not big enough to support big volumes.

So, this is a feature for tomorrow and it will probably happen but not today. However you found a great idea actually while trying to look for something for yourself, maybe you should start one and make it happen? That could help you out a lot.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: GEMinvest on November 21, 2020, 03:41:16 PM
Well there are a big list of projects like that


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: bjyx on November 22, 2020, 09:29:53 AM
Not paying attention to that kind of project


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: dingjoys on November 23, 2020, 03:05:30 AM
Try Synthetix-based derivatives exchange such as Kwenta. You can view the list at https://www.synthetix.io/.

Not sure about the volume though, probably not as good as you expected. DEX-based derivative exchange in general is still behind spot market.

The synthetic futures idea is great. When does it come out?


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: silviafufu on November 23, 2020, 09:05:31 AM
Decentralized derivatives are the main dex project we are definitely in a cryptocurrency bubble. The reason people over-evaluate bubbles is because no one outside of cryptocurrency niches will miss them if they disappear tomorrow. There is no clear path to a killer application that can go mainstream. Although Dex performed well in the market the demand has decreased a lot. In the case of derivatives will take a long time to get started Bitcoin is better with a huge amount of transaction processing.

what are you talking about, do you even https://defipulse.com/? Uniswap will replace Binance. If you cannot see this, then you are not willing to understand that from a financial point of view, the fate of man has been irrevocably changed by freedom to trade. Decentralised trading will become as essential as internet is now.

No KYC is whats driving this. Now this may come as a shock to you, as you probably have never changed any mass of people's lives in a meaningful way, but making a simple experience simpler is the definition of beauty. Are you not close enough to a good thing, to learn by its example?


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: Tahamina321 on November 24, 2020, 10:51:56 AM
I assume not but, it's undoubtedly one thing that could possibly be executed and it'll in all probability executed however I have no idea any that's well-known sufficient but, there are none that I heard of however I'm not ignorant or snob sufficient to say simply because I have never heard it, doesn't suggest it would not exist however since I'm right here nearly all day and dealing with crypto every single day if I did not hear it, it could actually be too enormous and if it's not too huge which means the quantity in all probability shouldn't be large enough to assist huge volumes.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: Happytuntun on December 01, 2020, 09:49:25 AM
Do you know CFD(contract for difference), if I make a decentralized CFD exchange, anyone would be interested in it?


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: Lhaine on December 01, 2020, 11:39:41 AM
Do you know CFD(contract for difference), if I make a decentralized CFD exchange, anyone would be interested in it?
It's my first time heard this one can you share an article what is that CFD? And how this things help crypto in away they are making it?


???Just like trading through my wallet but not exchange.

Better trading through my iPhone

Are you looking for a wallet that has inbuilt exchange ? No idea what it is but there are wallet already have that option but you still need to use 3rd party services a wallet that have partner with exchange.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: Beparanf on December 01, 2020, 11:46:44 AM
Try project serum(https://projectserum.com/) it is a derivative exchange built on Solana blockchain with 50k plus TPS. It has a cross chain feature in Ethereum blockchain so basically you can trade both ERC20 token and Solana native token, They have also a native solana BTC in there platform so this exchange fits to your description.

This derivative exchange is a product of FTX exchange so you can guarantee that it was safe and trusted. They are still on early phase of there working exchange.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: Happytuntun on December 02, 2020, 09:59:01 AM
Do you know CFD(contract for difference), if I make a decentralized CFD exchange, anyone would be interested in it?
It's my first time heard this one can you share an article what is that CFD? And how this things help crypto in away they are making it?

You can Google CFD for accurate definition. Here is a link of traditional CFD exchange platform: https://www.ig.com/en/cfd-trading

I think the big difference between traditional CFDs and decentralized CFDS is exchange cannot control prices of each pair.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: cheezcarls on December 02, 2020, 12:11:18 PM
???Just like trading through my wallet but not exchange.

Better trading through my iPhone

Decentralized derivatives? You might wanna look at Injective Protocol (https://injectiveprotocol.com). They have decentralized derivatives and borderless DeFi as well.

Hope this helps you mate.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: TurboMole on December 07, 2020, 07:35:37 AM
 ???hmm... I'm sure I'm finding the derivatives trading dApp and UX like Uniswap is better.
But look like many guys just want to advertise here:(

And I'm still looking for a "Uniswap Liked" derivatives trading dApp.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: cly113 on December 07, 2020, 07:40:52 AM
Maybe Hegic will be a good decentralized derivatives projects?

[Hegic]
Hegic is described to be an on-chain peer-to-pool options trading protocol built on Ethereum. It is claimed that the Hegic protocol pioneers a peer-to-pool approach to options trading. The project claims that it works like an AMM (automated market maker) for options.


Title: Re: Is there any project that main on decentralized derivatives?
Post by: dingjoys on December 13, 2020, 03:37:20 PM
I did some this research this week and Perpetual Protocol almost reached my expectation, only if it implements layer2 order book system like loopring or 0x. The requirement of gas free stop order is neccessary.