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According to coin.dance (https://cash.coin.dance/), BCHA hasn't added a new block since block #661656, which is 227 blocks behind BCHN. It would appear BCHA is being traded on a number of exchanges (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash-abc-2/markets/), but all that can take place independent of BCHA's ability to add blocks to its chain.

The lack in block production is confirmed by checking a Bitcoin Cash ABC explorer:

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-abc

The last block was found on 11/16, almost 24 hours ago! Before that it was adding blocks one every 3 to 10 hours. This is because its hash rate has been reduced to almost nothing, and it would appear it might soon be abandoned. That's my guess anyway. What do you think is going to happen with BCHA?

not looking good for bcha

amaury sechet will come back crawling on the bch team

As far as I know there is a split, hard fork Nov 15.

Minority group led by Amaury Sechet wanted an upgrade to the Bitcoin Cash network Amuary Sechet: ‘Upgrade or Bitcoin Cash Is Destined for Irrelevance’ (https://cointelegraph.com/news/amuary-sechet-upgrade-or-bitcoin-cash-is-destined-for-irrelevance)


While on the other side of the fence, another group of Bitcoin Cash supporter opposed to this "Coinbase Rule", known as BCHN.

So in any case that miners wouldn't support Bitcoin Cash ABC (most likely) then yeah, in theory it would simply disappear as miners will move to BCHN making it the dominant blockchain. And even prior to the fork, 80% are signalling support to BCHN anyways: https://cash.coin.dance/nodes

The only way to salvage it for the people behind BCHA is to get some miners on their side. But it will take a lot of money as well as the consensus is on the other side, or at least they themselves used their money to buy gear to continue mining. But it is a futile effort, so probably it will spell doom and one day BCHA will be dead, just another relic, killed by their own bickering in their community.

I can't believe he truly though btax was gonna fly with anybody. It's almost like he decided to torpedo Bitcoin ABC on purpose. There was a dip in the price of BCH (which is most obviously BCHN now) yesterday, but it seems to have more or less "recovered" for the moment. Speaking of btax, that would be a good ticker for BCHA.

we're used to get free coins every year for holding BCH.

i just sold my BCHA free coins, and got nice profits (~$2000) for free. thanks BCH for the forks it has.

it looks like BCHA is still in its identity, it's natural that BCHA prices are bad and below BCH because the risk is like this,
BCHA is not a pure project, they only have big names in BCH, so if you want to invest I don't recommend it.
BCHA is not dead, but it may die.

It's plausible information but it means two paths and we practically already know that in this case it would be total bankruptcy or great market adhesion. The question that remains is what will happen to the keepers and miners who spent their time mining the coin? Another point that we can analyze is the real reason for the segregation of blockchain in addition to political interests.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-abc/block/661657

but that adds another 1 block, I have never been interested in bitcoin cash or anything other than bitcoin, especially if it's about BSV or BCHA, I think that when they are left by many miners, the transaction will get stuck, people will of course leave this project, if i held it maybe i already threw it away

Price of BCHA now up to $20, gaining 70% over the last 24 hours. This coin still has some life in it. For as much preparation and time Sechet committed into the new BCHA, he's not prepared to just abandon it all. Looks like BCHA will be coming into its own -- not sure who's going to use it, or for what, though.

Or just another pump and dump before eventually folding up, just trying to squeeze as much profit for some. And if in any case it didn't die a natural death, it will be just another coin clogging the crypto market with no use at all except to be taken advantage by trading signal group for their pump and dump scheme.

And for those investors, time to think about it, much better if you are going to sell off and move to the majority chain.

BCHABC (BCH) always has huge fans from the beginning of the BCH fork, compared to their nemesis BSV, that's why it won't be dead soon. They have a fair number of adoption and user, and I think some whale would still be willing to join the pump-and-dump of this coin and make some profit out of it. And as some people mentioned on the previous replies you can see even after another fork and there we have the BCHA, it still join the bullish trend of crypto gaining 70% price jump.

Which one does Holy Roger support?
https://youtu.be/OjMapgj-O0k?t=911

This one?
https://cash.coin.dance/

Is BTAX trading anywhere?
Agree, on the nomenclature:

BTC
bcash
b-shitty-version
b-tax


edit: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash-abc-2/markets/
btax @ $20

Things seems to be looking good for the BCHA coin cause it price was around $16 yesterday and now $20 but I think the major problem BCHA have bow is that Amaury and his teams are somehow slow in develop the necessary features needed for the project but theres chance that some miners may choose not to support the BCHA project due to the 8% issue.

This is what TradingView thinks of BCH (formerly known as BCHN):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnFl9kMW4AQiu4r?format=jpg&name=medium

Meanwhile BTC is approaching all-time highs, and this outlook is not shared by BTC.

As for BCHA, its hanging in there at $18.73. I'm still surprised its not dead. It must be incredibly vulnerable to 51% attacks ATM. But at the same time, I'm impressed that Sechet is carrying it to full term birth instead of aborting it in the face of obvious rejection.

Well, thats good for you mate, that was an awesome profit just for free, Sadly my BCHA on Binance has not active yet not tradable, and even not movable? I dont know what's going on with Binance?
Because it's almost three days already after the fork but the BCHA is not active yet. It is better to activate the withdrawal function now if it is possible so that those BCHA holders have any chances to liquidate the BCHA and send them to other exchanges that currently traded the forked coin.  

Something completely unimaginable happened.
I keep my BCH on my Trezor wallet.
November 12, I sent coins to the Bitcoin ABC 0.22.5 wallet to get my BCHA coins.
November 15 Fork took place and on November 22 I sent my BCH coins back to Trezor.
I did not touch the BCHA coins.
Yesterday I installed a Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 wallet (BCHA Network) and saw that my BCHA coins on December 2 were sent to the same address as on November 22 I sent my BCH coins back to Trezor.
I did not send them!
On Trezor, of course, they are not.
Someone can explain what happened?
I guess I will not be able to get BCHA anymore, because Trezor does not support them?

Here is my wallet: https://blockchair.com/search?q=qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u

https://take.ms/uQtcK

Dude. Look at your own screenshot: its telling you that you have 10 BCHA alongside your 10 BCHN. They are both governed by the same private key, which you will need to import to a BCHA-specific wallet, which can likely be downloaded from the Bitcoin ABC website. Trezor was one of the few companies to outright support BCHA and not offer support for BCHN, but apparently they came around on Nov. 16th and changed their software. You may have to update your Trezor if you haven't since then.

Basically, if you aren't exactly sure what you're doing you'll be taking on a lot of unnecessary risk for $150. I would just let it die to zero while holding out hope that it one day evolves into its own brand, and higher prices.


And 10 days later, BCHA was indeed 51% attacked:

https://decrypt.co/49819/bitcoin-cash-rebels-launch-51-attack-to-destroy-bch-hard-fork

Too bad you still care about BCHA, I've always only cared about BTC, mate,
because Bitcoin is indeed an important project in the future to advance world technology for the better, and it's not part of BCHA,
we know BCH and BSV just a clone, so don't expect too much BCHA, let him die I prefer that.

BCH is losing value overtime and it never recovered from the previous fork, so going forward this trend is likely to remain.

You know what this post reminds me of? It's like a saltine cracker. Boring, devoid of nutritional content, and nobody asked for it. If you ever wonder why you've never received a single merit, that's why: you're serving up saltine crackers and nobody wants them. I know you don't care, just pumping out those posts for the bounty. You'll never learn anything and thus you'll never earn anything. Great job.

I think bitcoin ABC is abandoned already. No blocks no hash rate.. What else remain? Nothing
All these are happening because its abandoned

Again... can't really believe you're being compensated in any form for this type of comment.

1. It's not abandoned.
2. It has blocks (the last one was found 12 minutes ago).
3. It has a hash rate.

https://abc.coin.dance/blocks

Would it be too much to ask that people do the slightest bit of research before commenting misinformative nonsense in this thread?

Sorry for disturb.
If you have a minute axplain me please.
Now a have 108 BCH and 108 BCHA on the same address: https://monosnap.com/file/RQBDMztCeqBHGyP49lSWE5WFgSc3LL
My BCH on my Trezor.
But i haven't access to BCHA and don't know where it is.
Help me please with this.

Aslo I have no idea who sent all my BCHA coins from my cold wallet Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network) to this address: qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u
It was at Dec, 2 whet I not installed Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network) software yet.

Its okay buddy. You have legitimate questions and want an answer. I might not be able to provide it but let's take a look.

First of all, in your screenshot, you are showing outdated coin balances, one for BCHN (BCH) and one for BCHA. Your first screenshot was accurate and reflects your true balances, this second one is old. Also keep in mind the network split happened on 11/15.

Let's look at the BCHN (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u?_type=address) wallet first.

You had 10 BCH on 11/15. You received 98 BCH on 11/22 and sent them on 12/7, and now have a balance of 10 BCH correct?

Looking at the BCHA wallet:


Buddy, that is your address! According to you, anyway:


It looks like you were sent 98 BCHA along with 98 BCH on 11/22. The BCHA transaction was confirmed 10 days after the BCH transaction (12/2). If they made a single transaction it was broadcasted to both blockchains somehow (lack of replay protection I assume).

Compare these two address histories.

This one is for BCH: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u?_type=address

This one is for BCHA: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-abc/address/qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u?_type=address

You can see they go on separate paths starting 11-21.

Answer me this before I go any further:

Are you supposed to have 10 coins each for BCH and BCHA at qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u, like you currently do, or are you saying your coins were stolen from... one blockchain or both?? Don't exactly understand what the problem is.

1. There was 108 BCH coins on my Trezor wallet.
2. 13 November I sent them to my Bitcoin ABC wallet 0.22.6 to get both coins after fork.
3. After fork, November 22, I saved wallet.dat from Bitcoin ABC 0.22.6 (the balance was 108 coins).
4. On November 22 I sent 108 BCH coins back to Trezor at address: qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u. Here is my current balance on Trezor: https://take.ms/QiTvv
4. Two days ago I installed a BCHA client: Bitcoin ABC 0.22.8 (BCHA Network), took the wallet.dat file from step 3 and saw that in the history of this client on December 2 my BCHA was sent to qz5t86njxds9q7vucprdehlnxhslzylpls4qxkwd8u - but I did not do it!

Now I understand I have 108 BCHA somewhere - but I don't know how to access them.

PS Thanks God, everything is OK with my BCH coins on Trezor.


PPS yesterday I sent a little bit of BCH from my Trezor to Binance...
Transaction 4e774f6354833522bb18b2b67fbb3c87dadeb2371b289f5b6074c65f1f7de894
and as I see it, the transaction was duplicated at BCHA!
facepalm

Aha! Here's the problem: Trezor can't tell the difference between BCH and BCHA and sends both coins with one transaction (it appears as one transaction to you and Trezor but in reality its 2 transactions). So wherever you sent your BCH, that's where your BCHA went as well! The timestamps are off because BCHA went a long period of time without finding a single block; other than that they are the same in BCH as they are for BCHA.

So wherever you sent your BCH post-split, you sent BCHA there as well. With the exception of your microtransaction to Binance, all your coins should be in your control. I wouldn't send anything else from Trezor until they get their shit together, lol.

Thank you for clarifying.

One question remained unanswered - what was the transaction on December 2 from the BCHA wallet... Why they happened.

And, if I understood correctly, I need to create 2 identical receiving addresses for BCH and BCHA in some wallet - and send there a transaction from Trezor (I don't think they will make any solution for that).

OK, so what happened was you made a BCH transaction on Nov 22 and BCHA got sent along with it -- they even have the same hash number:

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/transaction/c715c4d116e8135af7a1b63015ba144885b1fb694da40be81f77e783d24b49f8

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-abc/transaction/c715c4d116e8135af7a1b63015ba144885b1fb694da40be81f77e783d24b49f8

However, the mirrored BCHA transaction wasn't actually confirmed until Dec 2 as they weren't finding blocks for quite a while. The next transaction, made Dec 7, also has the same hash number for both chains. This means that whatever address you sent the 98 BCH to also has 98 BCHA.


Sure, if you have control of both private keys (BCH and BCHA private keys), then that should be fine. Trezor will eventually come up with a better solution -- it might be worth waiting until they do, and even checking their website now to see if they have a new release. You're likely not their only customer having issues.

Thank You!

It would be better if I did not touch BCH on Trezor before fork ;)

What is working explorer for BCHA?

is it dead?

agree, the question could be - will it die eventually, and it will
could not say that it is already dead, but that is just a dead cat bounce, and one should consider leaving the project before it is already dead
always do your own analysis before investment and consider short and long term properties, IMO, none Bitcoin forks will not replace Bitcoin, and that means that they will eventually end-up as bad investment (do not take this as financial advise)

I still remember buying BCHA when it first appeared on Binance and the price went up fast, but i didn't sell immediately, I hold the BCHA in the hope that the price would fly higher but what happened was the opposite, the BCHA price dropped drastically and I made a cut-loss.

I'm not sure about the future of BCHA, I think it will be another shitcoin.

The money making project doesn't have enough fuel any longer hence investors and traders has shift mindsets into the latest one.
I can remember when bitcoin forks were the latest thing in town making different crypto media headlines but today, almost turnout to be gabbage with almost no road map.
More likely, more DeFi project will be cripple during this bull run cycle with zero liquidity. Only the tough one would last.