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Title: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Lorence.xD on November 18, 2020, 03:30:58 AM
This is part 2 of the post about the luckiest people who won the lottery, I am sorry that it took some time because my computer broke down and I can’t do a proper post in my relic device. As promised this is the second part of that post, this will be shorter though.

Stefan Mandel
Wins: 14
Amount: $27,000,000


Stefan bought every possible combination in the Virginia Lottery, not just any ticket though, there is a method on how he chooses which ticket will give him the jackpot. By far, in the previous this is the other one that does not relied on luck as he was reading math papers to do a system on how to choose which one is the better one.

Armand Paganelli
Wins: 16
Amount: $625,000


Armand bought most of the tickets in the pharmacy that his brothers own which made many skeptic about the wins, it was legal though so he was scot-free in the eyes of the law. He is a local legend in his hometown of Bronx, New York. The winnings were used for charity and his children’s college.

Deborah Brown
Wins: 30
Amount: $150,000


Deborah is the epitome of superstition, this lady saw the combination of numbers throughout the day and decided that she will buy tickets with those combinations. At first it was 20 tickets then the numbers keep festering her and she bought another 10, those tickets won her the highest amount for each netting her the mentioned amount. All this win happened in just a day and by far she is the luckiest in the list.

Source: https://www.lovemoney.com/gallerylist/76987/lottery-jackpot-winners-who-won-more-than-once?fbclid=IwAR1hKItH0VSlGIXEYAf7hSH5B5rQEewMEtIL2bzWhxUpUHkj34X961wTRmI#:~:text=Virginia%2Dbased%20Calvin%20and%20Zatera,the%20space%20of%20a%20month

Part 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288363.msg55566647#msg55566647


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: goinmerry on November 18, 2020, 03:40:17 AM
Aside from the fact that these people are not crypto-related winners, you can actually post this on your first thread and continue the discussion there.

It will just create repetitive and same responses since the subject is just the same.

Just my 2 cents mate. :)


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Lorence.xD on November 18, 2020, 04:34:28 AM
Aside from the fact that these people are not crypto-related winners, you can actually post this on your first thread and continue the discussion there.

It will just create repetitive and same responses since the subject is just the same.

Just my 2 cents mate. :)
It got locked so I can't do it. It was the plan but yeah now we are here. Sorry that this happened.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: samputin on November 18, 2020, 05:00:39 AM
Aside from the fact that these people are not crypto-related winners, you can actually post this on your first thread and continue the discussion there.

It will just create repetitive and same responses since the subject is just the same.

Just my 2 cents mate. :)
It got locked so I can't do it. It was the plan but yeah now we are here. Sorry that this happened.
I noticed that as well. I was supposed to respond on your first thread but as it turns out, it was locked. Anyway, I guess we can continue the discussion here.

With regards to those lucky winners, Ms. Brown caught my attention. 30 wins in just a day?! That's just crazy and lucky! How I wish I could also foresee combinations of numbers that would appear in the lottery. She's a one lucky woman.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: reliable on November 18, 2020, 05:27:21 AM
Armand used his money for Charity and for his children education, which is really a noble cause. Because if considered the winning amount was not anything in millions and with that amount could have enjoyed for rest of life for himself and family. So, kudos to him. For Stefan to be able to judge what could be the probability of which number coming and buying those tickets is commendable. In the end he made a fortune from lottery.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: peter0425 on November 18, 2020, 05:47:51 AM
Seems like the Part 2 is less dramatic and crime related huh? ;D the first part almost all the winners end their life just because of the winning from lottery in which Made me stop buying ticket for a while and think of the future situation if ever my luck comes to this line.

but good that you opened the idea of us being gamblers must Have future plan also thinking that luck may be with us some day and it will be harder that the plans will only be made once you already a Millionaire and careless at the beginning .


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Twinkledoe on November 18, 2020, 06:18:05 AM
So why was the first part locked? Sorry late to the party. Also, can we see persons in the list who are living outside US? I guess there are big lucky lottery winners also.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Lorence.xD on November 18, 2020, 06:34:21 AM
So why was the first part locked? Sorry late to the party. Also, can we see persons in the list who are living outside US? I guess there are big lucky lottery winners also.
I don't know why it was locked so can't help you in that department. I would love to post about people that is outside US, maybe next time I will be digging more, I am curious about this lottery winners too. I guess that US is a big market in the Internet after all. I would love to do this kind of post but it seems some people does not want this kind of post here so it will be decided.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: traderethereum on November 18, 2020, 06:37:23 AM
I am sure that all of those winners are the luckiest people who win from the lottery gambling games.
Many of us buy the lottery tickets just hope that we can win some money, especially if we can win the jackpot. But unfortunately, many of us failed to be the winner because our tickets are miss.
I believe that those people deserve that winner because they have their luck besides them and help them win a lot of money.
But despite that, we don't have to follow them, especially if we don't have much money to be a risk to buy the tickets. But if you are just curious about that, you can buy it anytime, and waiting for the lucky comes to you.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: safari88 on November 18, 2020, 08:19:47 AM
is this the continuation of your TOP 10 Lottery Winner Losers? any way that last one who won 30 times must be really lucky i never though someone will manage to win multiple times in the lottery.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Ucy on November 18, 2020, 08:44:49 AM
Interesting.
The last one (Deborah Brown) could be explained in my opinion. It's either from GOOD SPIRIT or bad spirit (if she really told the truth), or  she(he?) did "her home work" (which maybe be legal) before playing, or someone gave here clue.

The first one (Stefan Mandel) must have done his by researching how the Virginia lottery work and probably with the help of maths.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Genemind on November 18, 2020, 09:13:45 AM
The story behind their winning is amazing, I like how Armand Paganelli spent his winning on charity and his children's college. He used all his winnings in a good way.

Imagine how Stefan Mandel pulled off the winning numbers by a mathematical equation that made him a lottery winner. His hard work paid off and he won a huge amount of money with just a little pinch of luck. I like reading success stories of how people won lotteries and how they spent it in a good way, rather than how winning a lottery became their demise.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: swogerino on November 18, 2020, 09:27:05 AM
This new list is making me skeptic.It is the second time I am reading a guy reading and learning mathematical models winning a huge amount of 27 mln dollars.I am thinking to myself now that probably I should start learning math and algorithms or it is just plain luck for this Stefan Mandel although he was reading math things?


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: btc78 on November 18, 2020, 09:33:35 AM
So does the first Thread had been locked by Mods?

but its ok since your Part 2 has different stories from the first one..

Making me think like what the above post said to start being mathematician and maybe one day in future i may Hit The jackpot lol.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: robelneo on November 18, 2020, 09:41:45 AM
This is part 2 of the post about the luckiest people who won the lottery, I am sorry that it took some time because my computer broke down and I can’t do a proper post in my relic device. As promised this is the second part of that post, this will be shorter though.

Stefan Mandel
Wins: 14
Amount: $27,000,000


Stefan bought every possible combination in the Virginia Lottery, not just any ticket though, there is a method on how he chooses which ticket will give him the jackpot. By far, in the previous this is the other one that does not relied on luck as he was reading math papers to do a system on how to choose which one is the better one.


Stefan can do a repeat of his winning since he considered his winning as not relying on luck and on a mathematical combination if he can perfect his method he is on his way to a continuous run of winning, compared to when you just rely on your dream and a combination of the birthdate of people, it's very rare and you need a lot of time and effort to complete the winning combinations.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Strongkored on November 18, 2020, 10:16:10 AM
What Stefan Mandel is doing quite interesting because he analyzes the possible numbers that will come out of the lottery ticket, so gambling is not only a matter of luck but also strategy and analysis, even though the strategy and analysis do not fully work.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: ReiMomo on November 18, 2020, 10:40:54 AM
I have read the previous thread as well but the same thing these people exactly knew what to do with their winnings and were able to manage their emotion after they won and became nobler instead.

Regarding Stefan I almost able to do the same thing before figuring out what will be the next possible winning combination but I observed it for a few rounds and the combination that I formulated came out consecutively but after several times getting the right combination. I decided to place my bet then the combination didn't work out and I believe that the formula has already changed after that incident I decided not to do it again. I keep on placing bets with my instinct though I never won the jackpot still I keep on winning at least the consolation prize.

With Deborah, aside from the instinct I also believe that numbers from the superstition world really work like dreams because it also provides me combinations that would really come as the winning combination but either I fail to place the bet or just missed one number that made me won consolation prize too. I am just waiting for my turn to be listed in OP's top winners lol.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Wexnident on November 18, 2020, 11:06:05 AM
I'm curious how much Stefan spent though. The chances of doing so are plenty with enough research and funds, im pretty sure anyone can duplicate his achievements. Though the time it took may vary from person to person. If the profit was pretty close to the expenditure, I really doubt all that effort doing so would actually be worth it. Fame, yes, could be pretty much obtained due to that, but that's about it. If he managed to make a profit of more than 20-30% I guess that's pretty big already. Also, I really doubt Stefan should be here, well yes, his place is well deserved but I think there should be better ones? I mean, it wasn't luck if what you said about his winnings are true. Unlike the others.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: kryptqnick on November 18, 2020, 11:15:32 AM
Aside from the fact that these people are not crypto-related winners, you can actually post this on your first thread and continue the discussion there.

It will just create repetitive and same responses since the subject is just the same.

Just my 2 cents mate. :)
It got locked so I can't do it. It was the plan but yeah now we are here. Sorry that this happened.
Yeah, the mods of this section seem pretty tough to me sometimes (definitely tougher than in Bitcoin Discussion). Sometimes they delete normal discussions altogether, other times they lock the threads... So I think it's justified that you've made a new thread now.
I wonder if the stories behind he wins are true. I know there are some facts about math pros winning lotteries by analyzing the probabilities and finding a vulnerability to exploit, but I think they get banned from casinos and probably from taking part in lotteries as well. These people won lots of times, but did that lady, for instance, truly rely on superstitions? And how did these people win so many times? It would also be useful to know what were the odds of winning the number of times that they won. You provided that info in the previous threads sometimes, and I think it would provide additional insight in these cases as well.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: plvbob0070 on November 18, 2020, 11:42:10 AM
If I understand it correctly, the other two bought a lot of tickets to get a higher chance of winning which costs them also. And it seems they are kinda good at math to be able to come up with those combinations of numbers. But the last one on the list is indeed lucky to win all those 30 tickets in just one day. But compared to the other two, Deborah has the lowest amount won even if she won 30 times.

Still, in the end, they are lucky to win such a huge amount of money.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: shoreno on November 18, 2020, 11:43:00 AM
thats not pure luck or "luckiest" because they bought loads of tickets not just one . you can be lucky/luckiest if you win huge amount and only spend few dollars or only 1 ticket in your lottery betting times . if they can win several times using the method that they implement , im pretty sure that they can win again another in the future .

this was risky because there can be many criminals and ordinary people that will be looking for them to teach them how to play or to steal some of thier wealth but with the money that they won and fame that they got , these people can be living on a verry secure place now with guards .


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Gotumoot on November 18, 2020, 12:30:50 PM
Because of their number of wins I just remember a movie The Time Travelers Wife.
Because of them I now think that time travel could be true  ;D ,
But they sure are a bunch of lucky person for winning more than once.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 18, 2020, 12:42:59 PM
I see that some gamblers can use the win money for their own family and save money for their lives. That is one thing that we need to do if we can win in the gambling games. We can think of creating a new business to have an income from that, and we can stop gambling from running the business. While they have big money, they can also invest in many things to grow the money to have more money as a profit.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: acroman08 on November 18, 2020, 02:40:47 PM
the first one is really cool. I wonder if his mathematical method increased his chances of winning(besides the amount of ticket he bought) or just pure luck. it would be awesome to know if other people also won using a similar method Stefan Mandel used.

So why was the first part locked? Sorry late to the party. Also, can we see persons in the list who are living outside US? I guess there are big lucky lottery winners also.
I don't know why it was locked so can't help you in that department. I would love to post about people that is outside US, maybe next time I will be digging more, I am curious about this lottery winners too. I guess that US is a big market in the Internet after all. I would love to do this kind of post but it seems some people does not want this kind of post here so it will be decided.
it is most likely that the replies became too repetitive and the discussion is not substantial enough and just becoming another spam thread that is why the mod locked it. it happened on my previous thread where the replies became repetitive and unsubstantial and then got locked.

is this the continuation of your TOP 10 Lottery Winner Losers? any way that last one who won 30 times must be really lucky i never though someone will manage to win multiple times in the lottery.
this is the continuation of TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288363.msg55566647#msg55566647) the first thread got locked so the OP created a part 2


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: Renampun on November 18, 2020, 03:52:16 PM
I see that some gamblers can use the win money for their own family and save money for their lives. That is one thing that we need to do if we can win in the gambling games. We can think of creating a new business to have an income from that, and we can stop gambling from running the business. While they have big money, they can also invest in many things to grow the money to have more money as a profit.
It would be great to win big from the lottery-like them and then invest a lot of it in new business...
it is not impossible to be financially free from big wins from gambling like them, all need to do is not need to waste time and buy things that are not important.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: wxa7115 on November 18, 2020, 05:59:07 PM
Deborah Brown
Wins: 30
Amount: $150,000


Deborah is the epitome of superstition, this lady saw the combination of numbers throughout the day and decided that she will buy tickets with those combinations. At first it was 20 tickets then the numbers keep festering her and she bought another 10, those tickets won her the highest amount for each netting her the mentioned amount. All this win happened in just a day and by far she is the luckiest in the list.

Source: https://www.lovemoney.com/gallerylist/76987/lottery-jackpot-winners-who-won-more-than-once?fbclid=IwAR1hKItH0VSlGIXEYAf7hSH5B5rQEewMEtIL2bzWhxUpUHkj34X961wTRmI#:~:text=Virginia%2Dbased%20Calvin%20and%20Zatera,the%20space%20of%20a%20month

Part 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288363.msg55566647#msg55566647
I wonder if she is actually a winner on the long term? What I mean is that it seems that she buys a lot of tickets and even if she has won 150,000 dollars at the same time we need to consider how much money has she spent while gambling?

In the case of the other gamblers that you present in this thread and the previous one most likely they were overall winners as their profits were massive but in her case even if the number of wins is impressive the amount she has won is kind of low compared to the number of wins so I wonder if she has actually won any money or if she has spent more money in the tickets than what she earned?


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: carlfebz2 on November 18, 2020, 06:13:21 PM
Seeing these 14-16-30 wins in lottery is almost superficial to happen yet it can mathematically possible but chances on hitting  the right combination is nearly on negative zero.

Its just amazing on how these fellas able to manage to hit and some of those winners do even rely with his dreams or intuition that he should buy ticket and he definitely won? Sounds unbelievable but
it did really happen.

Aside on the topic, i agree that this is an another topic that will really accumulate similar responses just like on the other thread.Nothing changes but its good to look at about
these numbers.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: AbuBhakar on November 18, 2020, 06:15:26 PM
It was too good for Brown that she have such chance to win a lot. There are really people who were able to site or forsee some events that can take advantage if they will try to follow their instincts. I sometimes think those numbers I dreamed will make me win but it's not happening,though I still bet sometimes when there's some number in my dreams.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: bhadz on November 18, 2020, 07:37:37 PM
Stefan is familiar to me. I've read an article before about Math and lottery and that made me remember it was said that he was a teacher. I also looked for a short article that told how did he do that.
How a Romanian mathematician hacked the system and won the lottery 14 times (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/how-win-lottery-romanian-mathematician-hacked-system-stefan-mandel-a8527556.html)
Very lucky guy.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 18, 2020, 08:51:32 PM
Seeing these 14-16-30 wins in lottery is almost superficial to happen yet it can mathematically possible but chances on hitting  the right combination is nearly on negative zero.

Its just amazing on how these fellas able to manage to hit and some of those winners do even rely with his dreams or intuition that he should buy ticket and he definitely won? Sounds unbelievable but
it did really happen.

Aside on the topic, i agree that this is an another topic that will really accumulate similar responses just like on the other thread.Nothing changes but its good to look at about
these numbers.

maybe just to inspire some people here with positive vibes. as we all know, very few can have their luck in lottery games. so maybe just be contented reading their lucky stories for now and try our own luck in the future. and if you are placing bet in lottery, i guess dont expect that you will get something. play it with your extra funds and forget that you bet but dont forget where you put your ticket. who knows, that will be your golden ticket?


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: AliMan on November 18, 2020, 09:17:35 PM
Because of their number of wins I just remember a movie The Time Travelers Wife.
Because of them I now think that time travel could be true  ;D ,
But they sure are a bunch of lucky person for winning more than once.

Wishing that we could got that lucky charms same with the winners mate, that awesome thing if we do achieve that kind of rewards in gambling. Luck is rarely happening, so we need to purse and don't stop pushing for our future in betting because we don't know what tommorow may bring for all of us. Lol, time traveling was just a movie and reality in life is always the true travel as we lived we're traveling in time.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: ralle14 on November 18, 2020, 10:35:09 PM
Stefan can do a repeat of his winning since he considered his winning as not relying on luck and on a mathematical combination if he can perfect his method he is on his way to a continuous run of winning, compared to when you just rely on your dream and a combination of the birthdate of people, it's very rare and you need a lot of time and effort to complete the winning combinations.
Not anymore since everyone already knows the strategy and it wasn't even that complicated. I feel like there's no way to perfect or change the method he used since it's straightforward already. What he basically did was like making several parlays and shop for the best odds that would put him in profit. We can still say he's lucky since he manage to get away with those wins at that time.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 18, 2020, 10:59:41 PM




Deborah Brown
Wins: 30
Amount: $150,000


Deborah is the epitome of superstition, this lady saw the combination of numbers throughout the day and decided that she will buy tickets with those combinations. At first it was 20 tickets then the numbers keep festering her and she bought another 10, those tickets won her the highest amount for each netting her the mentioned amount. All this win happened in just a day and by far she is the luckiest in the list.



Astonishing, there are gamblers like this, and I have known some of them they are quick to attach number that they fancy on that day to bet like when they are reading a newspaper and they saw a combination of number in the newspaper they read, but mostly they got it from their dreams
I read a lot of news about people waking up with a combination of numbers, they bet on them and they won, it's not superstition but a mind working to create miracles for winning numbers.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: TedMosby on November 18, 2020, 11:34:38 PM
Hi Lorence.xD,

I've read part 1 of your thread, I came here to give you an idea.
I don't know if this thread already existed before, but how about..

LUCKIEST CRYPTO GAMBLING WINNERS (BITCOINTALK MEMBERS EDITION)

so, on the thread BTT members will share their bet, stakes, games, website, and the ss of their winning.
1. it can be a medium of promotion for crypto websites.
2. it can be a medium to showcasing your lucks.
3. it can be a medium to motivate other players.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: ultrloa on November 18, 2020, 11:46:40 PM
Hi Lorence.xD,

I've read part 1 of your thread, I came here to give you an idea.
I don't know if this thread already existed before, but how about..

LUCKIEST CRYPTO GAMBLING WINNERS (BITCOINTALK MEMBERS EDITION)

so, on the thread BTT members will share their bet, stakes, games, website, and the ss of their winning.
1. it can be a medium of promotion for crypto websites.
2. it can be a medium to showcasing your lucks.
3. it can be a medium to motivate other players.

It's hard to get those data since I think many forums users doesn't like to show their stats, as well they keep their playing time in private IMO, but anyways this a good idea to try since this is interesting information to get from the forum users about their winnings.

Good luck if you or OP will create a thread about this.


Title: Re: TOP 10 LUCKIEST LOTTERY WINNERS PART 2
Post by: iTradeChips on November 19, 2020, 12:32:59 AM
Damn, that Stefan Guy. He created a system that would let him be able to pick up numbers based on calculations? That is pure luck I should say. The probability of winning lotteries is very very small and he was able to pull it off using a "system"? That defied the laws of mathematics if his system is being used again and it wins. I really think that his case is sheer luck and will on his part in always betting. Very lucky man indeed.