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Title: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on November 18, 2020, 03:39:24 AM
I made a deal with this user, put the funds agreed upon in escrow and he backed out, claiming I was trying to scam him.  He is repeatedly harassing me and commenting on my posts, to the point where I create nothing but self moderated threads in order to delete his harassment of me.  

Chradams Is an obvious alt of a user with a grudge against me.  

Please support the flag here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2863284


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Txid’s for the $225 and a separate one for the fee.  

Screenshot of him backing out.  

https://imgur.com/a/RwRUEwc



Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: OgNasty on November 18, 2020, 04:39:49 AM
I see Vod left the scammer a positive trust rating as well. Another reason why he shouldn’t be in the DT network.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: hacker1001101001 on November 18, 2020, 04:45:48 AM
Trying to sell :

FAKE GOOGLE REVIEWS :

I can do this for you. Pm details or my telegram is @jackboxpart

PRE-VERIFIED PAXFUL ACCOUNTS :

I can sell you a paxful account. What is your contact info?

FAKE TELEGRAM ACCOUNTS :

Quote from: Chradams link=topic=5285779.msg55500307#msg55500307
I can provide telegram accounts that are valid for one month for $3 each. Or accounts that will be valid for 1 year for $20 each. Pm me if interested


I don't think its wise to deal with a user who is trying to game online platforms and promote spamming.

Flag supported.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 04:49:14 AM
I made a deal with this user, put the funds agreed upon in escrow and he backed out, claiming I was trying to scam him.  He is repeatedly harassing me and commenting on my posts, to the point where I create nothing but self moderated threads in order to delete his harassment of me.  

Chradams Is an obvious alt of a user with a grudge against me.  

The story I received was that you chose OG as escrow, and he backed out after reviewing OG's trade history. 

Kind of like OG changing payment due from 100% to "insurance" of 1%.   Don't do things like that at the last second.

I would recommend no one do business with you if you use OG as an escrow.

(Edited to correct the facts)


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: marlboroza on November 18, 2020, 03:21:22 PM
Flag supported.
Based on what? I don't see any proof except few words written by OP, what you need to see before supporting that flag is:

1) proof that user backed out of deal
2) transaction ID and proof that OP payed fee to OG

I am opposing this flag for now until some evidence show up, unless flag system is supposed to work like "he said - she said" system? I don't think so...


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: hacker1001101001 on November 18, 2020, 04:22:33 PM

Maybe you didn't read my post clearly but Chradams is involved in selling fake telegram account, fake google reviews and verified paxful accounts. If you don't see this as an risk than you are just being biased here by opposing the flag.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on November 18, 2020, 04:27:42 PM
Flag supported.
Based on what? I don't see any proof except few words written by OP, what you need to see before supporting that flag is:

1) proof that user backed out of deal
2) transaction ID and proof that OP payed fee to OG

I am opposing this flag for now until some evidence show up, unless flag system is supposed to work like "he said - she said" system? I don't think so...

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Txid’s for the $225 and a separate one for the fee. 

Screenshot of him backing out. 

https://imgur.com/a/RwRUEwc


I also contacted 2 other escrows, ognasty was available first which is why we used him.   As a matter of fact OG was the first escrow that me and chadams agreed on, I can screenshot my email if necessary.  It’s obvious that this was an outright scam attempt, or an alt of VOD trying to create problems. 


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 05:17:45 PM
Screenshot of him backing out. 
https://imgur.com/a/RwRUEwc
I also contacted 2 other escrows, ognasty was available first which is why we used him.   As a matter of fact OG was the first escrow that me and chadams agreed on, I can screenshot my email if necessary.  It’s obvious that this was an outright scam attempt, or an alt of VOD trying to create problems. 

That is not the argument.   You changed escrows to OG after the deal was made.  He is allowed to pull out if you change the deal to involve a scammer.

I’ve asked you to leave me alone on numerous occasions, I see you aren’t getting the point.

Then don't involve me in your escow scams? It's obvious you wanted my attention here. 


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 05:23:12 PM
He agreed to use ognasty first

He says he did not. 

You should have posted that screenshot instead of the one mentioning my name.   ::)




Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Rmcdermott927 on November 18, 2020, 05:23:33 PM
Screenshot of him backing out. 
https://imgur.com/a/RwRUEwc
I also contacted 2 other escrows, ognasty was available first which is why we used him.   As a matter of fact OG was the first escrow that me and chadams agreed on, I can screenshot my email if necessary.  It’s obvious that this was an outright scam attempt, or an alt of VOD trying to create problems. 

That is not the argument.   You changed escrows to OG after the deal was made.  He is allowed to pull out if you change the deal to involve a scammer.

I’ve asked you to leave me alone on numerous occasions, I see you aren’t getting the point.

Then don't involve me in your escow scams? It's obvious you wanted my attention here. 

If you honestly think I was trying to scam a $225 item when I’ve been trading on here for years, you’re even more touched than I already thought.  


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 05:26:07 PM
If you honestly think I was trying to scam a $225 item when I’ve been trading on here for years, you’re even more touched than I already thought.  

But it's OK if you think I was trying to scam a $225 item?   When I've been building trust here for a decade without alts?

It's much more likely this is a Rmcdermott927/OG escrow scam.   I'm touched with the gift of common sense.  :)

Post the screenshot...



Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: suchmoon on November 18, 2020, 05:32:44 PM
Maybe you didn't read my post clearly but Chradams is involved in selling fake telegram account, fake google reviews and verified paxful accounts. If you don't see this as an risk than you are just being biased here by opposing the flag.

The flag is not about telegram/paxful accounts or google reviews. If you supported it based on that then you're a moron but that's not exactly news.

~

Doxing is cool as long as it's not OgNasty, amirite?


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Beparanf on November 18, 2020, 05:33:53 PM
If you honestly think I was trying to scam a $225 item when I’ve been trading on here for years, you’re even more touched than I already thought.  

But it's OK if you think I was trying to scam a $225 item?   When I've been building trust here for a decade without alts?

It's much more likely this is a Rmcdermott927/OG escrow scam.   I'm touched with the gift of common sense.  :)

Post the screenshot...



Here you go princess

https://imgur.com/a/dUUudaB


You’ve wasted enough of my time.  

Supporting the flag now although it's kinda useless since the account was newbie but I understand your point about this since the user is hijacking your serious thread with a troll/false accusation. This screenshot should be put on the OP so that everyone can see this proof as soon as they read your thread.

Try to use report to moderator button on all of his harassment post. I'm sure that it will be deleted by the mods.

EDIT:
Flag removed.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 05:34:08 PM
You’ve wasted enough of my time. 

Then keep my name out of your scams.   You called OG a "trusted user" to a newbie.  Open and shut case of fraud.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 05:39:36 PM
You’ve wasted enough of my time. 

Then keep my name out of your scams.   You called OG a "trusted user" to a newbie.  Open and shut case of fraud.

Just a matter of time before you stroke out and I don’t have to see your words. 

You don't have to see them at all if you stop asking for my attention.  :)


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: OgNasty on November 18, 2020, 06:10:35 PM
Vod leaving me negative trust for providing escrow now?

Yup, some pieces of shit on this forum still support the guy.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: marlboroza on November 18, 2020, 06:19:24 PM
@OP, you need to include proofs in topic, that's how flagging system works. Anyway:
https://imgur.com/a/dUUudaB
This looks like some kind of agreement, and this:
https://imgur.com/a/RwRUEwc
Looks like everything was arranged, I mean, OP said "all you need to do is to provide your addy" and according to screenshot, OG has his addy, so, it is like "ok, let's do this". This is what actually bugs me here:
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Txid’s for the $225 and a separate one for the fee. 
I have to assume that OG returned you funds + escrow fee (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e298d815d9f0fd531084eaa7504a5a1eb9d58e3b6861e97fb67dbe72b2e310d4), so we are basically talking about this person damaged you for....errr...0.00004394BTC transaction fee. It is really tiny amount, but, as damage still happened, I will support that flag.

Please update topic with TXID and screenshots.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: iwutitan on November 18, 2020, 06:53:50 PM
@OP, you need to include proofs in topic, that's how flagging system works. Anyway:
https://imgur.com/a/dUUudaB
This looks like some kind of agreement, and this:
https://imgur.com/a/RwRUEwc
Looks like everything was arranged, I mean, OP said "all you need to do is to provide your addy" and according to screenshot, OG has his addy, so, it is like "ok, let's do this". This is what actually bugs me here:
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Txid’s for the $225 and a separate one for the fee. 
I have to assume that OG returned you funds + escrow fee (https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/e298d815d9f0fd531084eaa7504a5a1eb9d58e3b6861e97fb67dbe72b2e310d4), so we are basically talking about this person damaged you for....errr...0.00004394BTC transaction fee. It is really tiny amount, but, as damage still happened, I will support that flag.

Please update topic with TXID and screenshots.

It’s more my time, the annoyance, and the fact that every post I make in the marketplace now has to be self moderated because the user constantly posts that I’m a scammer when I have done no such thing.

You sound like a whining brat. You thought you had an agreement that only benefits you( from the items you were set to receive the value was well over $400 and you were only giving $225), and he changed his mind when tw realized the risk involved dealing with you and OG


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 07:08:24 PM
And your an obvious alt, who already has a scammer tag.    I say obvious alt, because you have no idea what was supposedly transacted. 

Everyone who noticed your scam is now an alt?

It stinks because your main complaint is you lost an escrow fee to OG.   OG should return it to you - he did nothing.



Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: marlboroza on November 18, 2020, 07:11:34 PM
It’s more my time, the annoyance, and the fact that every post I make in the marketplace now has to be self moderated because the user constantly posts that I’m a scammer when I have done no such thing.
Look, I have my own opinion about OGnessty and you have your own, and, some people on this forum don't like ponziarian supporters/buddies/whatever so don't be surprised when something like that happen. I was trying to be polite as I could and to respond only to scam accusation and that flag, as far as I am concerned, account is flagged and I am out of this topic.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 07:29:09 PM
It’s more my time, the annoyance, and the fact that every post I make in the marketplace now has to be self moderated because the user constantly posts that I’m a scammer when I have done no such thing.

Bullshit.   Your escrow buddy OG has been doing that for years, and you condone it.   

Stop being a hypocrite.  If you want to stop being accused of shady things, use a better escrow.  One that would return your escrow fees.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: OgNasty on November 18, 2020, 07:48:43 PM
Really, Vod breaks up a purchase a Bitcoin user was trying to make by spreading lies, then attacks the user trying to buy items with Bitcoin on a Bitcoin forum using a reliable Bitcoin escrow for posting about how his purchase was screwed up?

How can anyone defend such a piece of shit and maintain a shred of reputation? This highlights the failure in our current trust system.

If you are an honest person wondering what you can do... Add ~Vod to your trust settings to exclude him and include those defending him. Send a message this behavior will not be tolerated.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Chradams on November 18, 2020, 07:55:10 PM
Really, Vod breaks up a purchase a Bitcoin user was trying to make by spreading lies, then attacks the user trying to buy items with Bitcoin on a Bitcoin forum using a reliable Bitcoin escrow for posting about how his purchase was screwed up?

How can anyone defend such a piece of shit and maintain a shred of reputation? This highlights the failure in our current trust system.

If you are an honest person wondering what you can do... Add ~Vod to your trust settings to exclude him and include those defending him. Send a message this behavior will not be tolerated.

It is amazing how much these two scammers back up each other. I feel bad for Vod having to deal with their harassment when all he is trying to do is look out for the community. Especially when he isn’t the only high ranking member here that has pointed out their shady deals. Anyone using any of OgNasty’s services deserve to be scammed.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 08:00:10 PM
It is amazing how much these two scammers back up each other. I feel bad for Vod having to deal with their harassment when all he is trying to do is look out for the community. Especially when he isn’t the only high ranking member here that has pointed out their shady deals. Anyone using any of OgNasty’s services deserve to be scammed.

Just tell your story everywhere, and be honest.   rc has backed it up with screenshots.

Let your friends know that even talking to rc will get you negative trust from 2 dt members.  You had every right to pull out when you researched the escrow, and the escrow leaving you negative trust when he gained money proves they are a team.  


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: OgNasty on November 18, 2020, 08:08:12 PM
Anyone using any of OgNasty’s services deserve to be scammed.

Why would you wish such horrible things on this community's members?  You do realize that Vod is a well documented liar that even this forum's administrator distrusts, right?  You also realize that I've handled nearly 20,000 BTC worth of trading activity without a single legitimate complaint, right?  It is clear you are either completely brainwashed, an idiot, or an alt account.  It doesn't matter to me which one you are, but you've clearly wasted a lot of your time and brought more negative attention on your buddy Vod, so... congrats?


Let your friends know that even talking to rc will get you negative trust from 2 dt members.

What sort of lying bullshit is this?  You just keep digging your hole...


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 08:27:52 PM
Anyone using any of OgNasty’s services deserve to be scammed.

You do realize that Vod is a well documented liar that even this forum's administrator distrusts, right

You should post that with proof in my reputation thread.  Distraction is not needed in this thread.  

Address the accusation that you kept rc's escrow fee, then left Chradams negative feedback for causing rc to lose the fee ?

No sense having the same convo in two places.   Bullshit aside - facts here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277084.msg55625806#msg55625806


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: OgNasty on November 18, 2020, 08:45:34 PM
then left Chradams negative feedback for causing rc to lose the fee

Perhaps you need to look at the feedback I left him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2863284

You are wrong again as always.

The blockchain shows all, and as usual supports my claim and disproves yours.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 08:49:37 PM
then left Chradams negative feedback for causing rc to lose the fee
Perhaps you need to look at the feedback I left him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2863284

You fail to say that the "escrow" was you, and you refused to return it when the buyer researched you.   ::)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290847.0

I'm out.   Be warned:  anyone posting in my defense is subject to DT blacklisting.   


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Chradams on November 18, 2020, 08:52:10 PM
As much as I’m upset that I was almost scammed by these two, I’m glad it helped shine a light on their behavior and got a discussion going. Hopefully this will put an end to their scheme and lies.


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on November 18, 2020, 08:59:57 PM
Hopefully this will put an end to their scheme and lies.

HA!   Look at my signature.  I am the catalyst exposing him, going through thousands of blockchain transactions.   I'm taking all the heat from his gang so that others can speak up - but no one on DT really cares, even when they are forced to do something or face DT blacklist.

DT is more like a commerce tag here.   Which is amazing for me, since I've only done one trade with Suchmoon, and my score is so high!   If you look at OG's feedback, he is on DT and he trusts all those people because they left him positive trust.  For a one time trade when no risk was involved.

Anyway, good luck to you.   Deleting past messages is a bad idea - it makes you look scammy (OG did it a lot)  and they are still visible in many places.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290847.0


Title: Re: User Chradams, harassment and libel
Post by: Vod on June 08, 2024, 09:13:58 PM
Bumping for new users.

OGNasty used an alt as an escrow.   The person hiring OG's alt found out and cancelled the deal.   OG kept the escrow fee and his alt created this thread to complain.  (Don't worry, I chased his alt off the forum)

@Theymos - why do you still trust OGNasty?