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Other => Beginners & Help => Topic started by: FelixO on March 24, 2014, 05:23:29 PM



Title: Bitcoin
Post by: FelixO on March 24, 2014, 05:23:29 PM
Thank You!


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: DannyHamilton on March 24, 2014, 05:27:15 PM
Is it possible to trace bitcoins, not via sending/receiving adresses but the the coins themselves?

There is no such thing as a bitcoin, so there is nothing to trace.

There are only transactions.  Transactions spend previously unspent transaction outputs and create new unspent outputs.  For the standard transaction, an output is essentially an address and a value.

I reckon the smallest denomination (a satoshi) would have to be represented by a unique code in the blockchain to prevent double spending and other issues, is my assumption correct?

No, your assumption is not correct.  I suggest that you read the Bitcoin Whitepaper published by Satoshi Nakamoto before you try to guess how bitcoin works.

How would I be able to trace coins?

Since they don't exist...  No.


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: DannyHamilton on March 24, 2014, 05:36:35 PM
I will definitely read it, as soon as I can find the time.

Thank you for your reply.

It is 8 pages long with wide margins and lots of pictures.  It doesn't take very long to read.


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: tysat on March 24, 2014, 08:08:41 PM
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf  in case you don't know where to find it!


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: R0yalAir on March 24, 2014, 11:27:03 PM
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf  in case you don't know where to find it!

These nine pages are very helpful.


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on March 24, 2014, 11:34:10 PM
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf  in case you don't know where to find it!

These nine pages are very helpful.


These nine pages should be mandatory reading.  For bonus point read it again a couple months later.  Bitcoin is like an onion, lots of layers.  The more you learn, the more you realize you have more to learn.


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: BurtW on March 24, 2014, 11:43:13 PM
The more you learn, the more you realize you have more to learn.
I learn something new at least weekly and I have been here for years.  BTW I have learned a lot from this guy ^^^ so pay attention to his posts!

Here is a great example of exactly what I am talking about:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529395.msg5882513#msg5882513

I want to personally thank D&T for his work on these forums.


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: MiningSZ on March 24, 2014, 11:53:23 PM
read satoshis paper


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: tysat on March 25, 2014, 01:25:23 AM
https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf  in case you don't know where to find it!

These nine pages are very helpful.


These nine pages should be mandatory reading.  For bonus point read it again a couple months later.  Bitcoin is like an onion, lots of layers.  The more you learn, the more you realize you have more to learn.

+1 for onion status, I first read it in 2011 and have re-read it multiple times.  It takes a long time to fully understand Bitcoin!


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: durrrr on March 27, 2014, 01:54:05 PM
so bitcoins are traceable back to you? like if i spend coins to soemone they are always going to be recorded as i sent xx coins to this address?


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: cp1 on March 27, 2014, 01:56:11 PM
so bitcoins are traceable back to you? like if i spend coins to soemone they are always going to be recorded as i sent xx coins to this address?

Yes, unless the blockchain is cut down to save space at some point.


Title: Re: Tracking bitcoins, but not via adresses
Post by: DannyHamilton on March 27, 2014, 02:17:02 PM
so bitcoins are traceable back to you? like if i spend coins to soemone they are always going to be recorded as i sent xx coins to this address?

They are traceable back to the transactions that previously held that value. They are only traceable to you if the bitcoin address that you used to receive the bitcoins is publicly known.