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Title: - Post by: DreamerBT on November 18, 2020, 11:42:01 PM -
Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: suchmoon on November 18, 2020, 11:44:49 PM there is not a single reason to delete my topic because I didn't break any rules and I will continue to create it without breaking the rules. Please keep doing that until this account ends up with a permaban like your other one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2875949 Intertubes darwinism in action. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Joel_Jantsen on November 18, 2020, 11:48:00 PM who ever the mod is that deles my topic, it is time for you to learn the rules @hilariousandco - Is that you? :Dno matter you like me or nor for selling accounts around here, it is not against the rules to sell my own accounts you know? What do you mean by your own accounts? Do you have any example threads or the thread title? there is not a single reason to delete my topic because I didn't break any rules and I will continue to create it without breaking the rules. If your thread got deleted for doing something, there's a high chance it will be deleted again for doing the same thing again. And you might as well get a permaban too. Anyway, not sure what account sales you're on about here so hard to draw a conclusion.Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on November 18, 2020, 11:56:43 PM OP, without knowing what threads you're referring to, there's no way for anyone except the mod who deleted them to know if there was good reason to. You're right, selling accounts isn't against the rules unless there's something illegal about it, so I doubt that's the reason for your thread deletion.
Man, I hope nutildah isn't correct in saying you're an alt of Rambotnic. I had so hoped he'd gone away for good and for all. Edit: Since when asking for mods to answer brings no lifers without permissions to answer. Hey, it's a discussion forum where anyone can post. You didn't make a local rule in your OP that only moderators could respond here, which you could have by the way.Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: suchmoon on November 19, 2020, 12:02:24 AM Man, I hope nutildah isn't correct in saying you're an alt of Rambotnic. I had so hoped he'd gone away for good and for all. nutildah is correct. This is one of many Rambotnic's sockpuppets and he's getting increasingly desperate as his scams are getting busted. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Joel_Jantsen on November 19, 2020, 12:06:58 AM OP, without knowing what threads you're referring to, there's no way for anyone except the mod who deleted them to know if there was good reason to. I think it's possibly this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5284255.msg55446928#msg55446928Quote Bitcointalk Legendary Account with Green Trust: $400 Bitcointalk Legendary Account: $350 Bitcointalk Hero Account: $150 Bitcoin Senior Account: $80 Bitcoin Full Member Account: $50 All account coming with ORIGINAL EMAIL + Stacked Bitcoin address !!!! ALL ACTIVE !!! You won't get message this account has wake up from long period !!! Contact me via telegram: SamPatell For bulk orders discounts !!!! Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Joel_Jantsen on November 19, 2020, 12:18:59 AM Obviously I can create one account on each website/platform you idiot? I don't go around scamming people and farming accounts so I wouldn't know. But I understand it must be hard for you to get that bread without a college degree. Account sales are not forbidden no matter you guys like it or not. Your thread will get deleted again doesn't matter you like it or not. ;D Since we're on it, just reported another thread of yours. : )Actually 60%+ of the accounts around are sold and we all know it. I don't give a fuck who Rambotnic is, maybe another pajeet like such moon Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on November 19, 2020, 02:47:23 AM Your account will be banned (temp then permanent) or nuked soon.
Low quality topics and posts are not allowed here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290314.msg55613336#msg55613336) 18. Having multiple accounts and account sales are allowed, but account sales are discouraged. Q: I saw a guy selling Bitcointalk accounts. Why is that allowed? A: Since we can't effectively prevent these sales (proxies, TOR, sales on other forums), we don't because otherwise we would be giving the users a false sense of security. Quote from: hilariousandco link=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.msg16904309#msg16904309 First offence: 7 days Second offence: 14 days Third offence: 30 days Fourth: Permanent ban Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: mprep on November 19, 2020, 03:16:37 AM Seems like you were selling accounts for services that require KYC. Here's something I posted a few days ago that pretty much fits your situation verbatim:
Since you were running a store that sells accounts for services that require KYC, there is only a small number of ways you could've acquired said accounts. You: 1. Hacked them. 2. Passed KYC with stolen documents. 3. Passed KYC with fake (counterfeit) or modified expired documents. 4. Passed KYC with documents bought from their owners. All 4 methods are widely illegal. And as per the "Hacked invites/accounts are not allowed" stickied "Invites & Accounts" topic: You are only allowed to sell accounts/invites that you legally obtained yourself or through legitimate trades. If you did anything illegal in order to obtain an item, then you can't trade it on bitcointalk.org. Anyone found breaking this rule will be banned. Accounts on sites that require KYC such as bank accounts, PayPal, etc. are assumed to be hacked unless you explain why they're not hacked. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: logfiles on November 19, 2020, 03:55:32 AM Account sales are not forbidden no matter you guys like it or not. The posts that have been deleted so far are not concerning forum account sales. Stop lying. For exampleActually 60%+ of the accounts around are sold and we all know it. - https://ninjastic.space/post/55331952 The nature of the accounts you are trying to sell suggests that they could have either been hacked/stolen, verified using false or stolen documents etc which is not allowed in the forum. I can see you other alt (BettingSolutions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2875949)) which was also complaining about Deleted topic for no reason (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289698) has already been banned and I hope mods continue banning all you other ban evading alts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261169) Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: hilariousetc on November 19, 2020, 09:53:48 AM who ever the mod is that deles my topic, it is time for you to learn the rules @hilariousandco - Is that you? :DWasn't me. you pajeet need to read CAREFUL the rules on the section -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1785577.0 GO AHEAD AND PROOVE I am selling hacked/stolen or illegal obtained accounts. I can't wait, let me grab my popcorn If you want to PM a Global mod or one of the sub mods of the Marketplace with reasonable proof on how you're obtaining these accounts legitimately/legally then I'm sure they'll be allowed to stay if you can prove what you're saying but just asking people to take your word for it likely isn't going to cut it. Its absolutely impossible to have more than 1 bet365 account in 1 name. It's probably not impossible. Might be against their terms and maybe they have measures in place to try prevent it but I'm sure there are people with multiple accounts there. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: hilariousetc on November 19, 2020, 11:09:43 AM Seems like it is hard for me to understand one thing. Why should I pm a Mod to show him a proof that those accounts are obtained legal ? Isn't everywhere: innocent until proven guilty ? I believe if someone think they are illegal/stolen/hacked, they should provide valid proof based statement, and if I see one, I will show a MOD and MOD only how the were obtained because I am not interested to post my source public. Also, I already share one of the method how they are obtained which is 1000% legal, not stolen and any kind of shady activity. Well, this isn't a court of law but people have posted reasons why they're likely not legit. If someone comes here and offers guaranteed 1000% interest on a loan or investment we're going to call them out on it and assume they're a scammer even though we can't prove that they're not going to pay you 1000% interest, but they probably wont. But Ok, so let's say you're accused of a crime and are taken to court for selling illegally obtained accounts. The court asks you how did you acquire them. And you say....??? You would have to prove to the court that you obtained them legitimately and that's what were asking you to do. You should be able to do this if they are in fact legit but if you can't then the burden of proof is on you but we will have to assume that they are almost certainly not obtained through legitimate means, which, let's be honest, they probably aren't, and that's what were going to assume until proven otherwise. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: malevolent on November 19, 2020, 01:56:42 PM Your continuous near admissions of lying aren't helping your case. The burden of proof, especially as a Newbie/Jr. Member, is on you. Your Trust rating history and attitude isn't helping your case either. If anything, you can thank Global mods for not having banned you.
Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: mprep on November 19, 2020, 04:57:02 PM mprep, could you please explain me why is that illegal? Because buying or selling identification documents issued by a country's government is widely restricted... by country governments... for rather obvious reasons (getting access to benefits you aren't entitled to, being able to circumvent restrictions you're subject to, etc.). In quite a few countries, even the sale of expired documents is prohibited, for usually the same reasons. 4. Passed KYC with documents bought from their owners. If people are willing to sell their documents, isn't that a legal deal between you and the person who's selling the documents? You are not stealing them, you don't hack them, you don't do anything illegal but doing a legit deal between adult who knows what he's doing. If you could explain me why that part should be illegal, I will accept it. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Smartvirus on November 21, 2020, 12:04:35 AM I have many accounts under my name pajeet, seems like you are stupid retard Clearly, you care so little about values and you have a rather unpleasant way to attract attention to yourself @OP. Your full of hateful words that I wonder what's got you this much nerve but then, your business here is way out of the forum and as such, you see the forum as a means to target at a prey rather than a way to something lasting.if you are not familiar with those go kill yourself. you can have only 1 under your name using skrill/paypal and shit payment methods like that sadly you just tough achieving 12 iq was possible for you, sadly 11 is your max you pajeet need to read CAREFUL the rules on the section -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1785577.0 GO AHEAD AND PROOVE I am selling hacked/stolen or illegal obtained accounts. I can't wait, let me grab my popcorn You selling your account isn't a crime but then, the account isn't really safe on the part of the third party and yourself as, you both have contacts with the account and it could be used for evil by either parties which would be very undesirable. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: jademaxsuy on November 21, 2020, 07:18:49 AM Seems like it is hard for me to understand one thing. I just read the replies and yes @mprep was right that KYC should not be ask to the buyer when you sell the accounts. Ask for escrow services instead of proving it that you obtained the account legally to help you sell the accounts. They can hold the information of the account and the money of the account buyer. It just need a little fee and you can even ask the buyer to pay for the escrow service. In this way we can say that you are a real seller and do not have any intentions to get documents of the buyer. KYC here is not really necessary. Why should I pm a Mod to show him a proof that those accounts are obtained legal ? Isn't everywhere: innocent until proven guilty ? I believe if someone think they are illegal/stolen/hacked, they should provide valid proof based statement, and if I see one, I will show a MOD and MOD only how the were obtained because I am not interested to post my source public. Also, I already share one of the method how they are obtained which is 1000% legal, not stolen and any kind of shady activity. Account sales are not forbidden no matter you guys like it or not. The posts that have been deleted so far are not concerning forum account sales. Stop lying. For exampleActually 60%+ of the accounts around are sold and we all know it. - https://ninjastic.space/post/55331952 The nature of the accounts you are trying to sell suggests that they could have either been hacked/stolen, verified using false or stolen documents etc which is not allowed in the forum. I can see you other alt (BettingSolutions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2875949)) which was also complaining about Deleted topic for no reason (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289698) has already been banned and I hope mods continue banning all you other ban evading alts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261169) Please, stop with your stupid non sense, none of the accounts are obtained illegal, and I can LIE ANYTIME I WISH, it is well known marketing since world existing... Example: saying you have 50 coins when you can supply 10 but waiting for restock. I do not have banned alts, I do have tagged alts. mprep, could you please explain me why is that illegal? 4. Passed KYC with documents bought from their owners. If people are willing to sell their documents, isn't that a legal deal between you and the person who's selling the documents? You are not stealing them, you don't hack them, you don't do anything illegal but doing a legit deal between adult who knows what he's doing. If you could explain me why that part should be illegal, I will accept it. Earning is one of the highlights here in the forum and you can see mostly here advertising and that wearing signatures. So, do the right thing being fair enough to the buyers by not asking KYC. Escrow services are key to a successful transactions. You can do it that way to avoid any illegal implications. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: suchmoon on November 24, 2020, 12:01:59 AM Well, consider people doing it by free will, I don't consider those documents as hacked/stolen or illegal obtained. Many - if not most - crimes tend to be committed "by free will" so that means jack shit, as does the rest of your fallacious post. Give it up, you're not gonna make your own rules and your scams are not welcome here. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: actmyname on November 24, 2020, 02:05:40 AM Do not tell me about crimes, this is not court this is forum :D That's funny: because this is a forum, the moderators don't exactly have to answer to anyone for their discretion. They sometimes tell you why your posts are deleted, as has been done here, but unfortunately you're unable to accept that.How the fuck are you connecting a crime and a account created without illegal activity you brain dead murican? Your "free will" scenario of others selling their accounts is interesting but is irrelevant unless you are able to prove the transfer of ownership from the exact KYC-verified individual. I don't think you have the evidence of this, though you can feel free to prove me wrong. This is beyond any other details that would make it undesirable to sell one's account (e.g. ToS breaching) Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Redirexrs on November 24, 2020, 04:25:26 AM Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: suchmoon on November 24, 2020, 04:40:50 AM Do not tell me about crimes, this is not court this is forum :D How the fuck are you connecting a crime and a account created without illegal activity you brain dead murican? Identity theft and using fake or illegally obtained documents is a crime in many countries, likely including whatever shithole you're in. But you're right. This is just a forum with it's own rules and your posts can be deleted or your ass can be banned without any crimes at all - just because you break said rules. You should probably seek help for your obsession with pedophilia. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: hilariousetc on November 24, 2020, 10:26:00 AM Well, consider people doing it by free will, I don't consider those documents as hacked/stolen or illegal obtained. No one force them selling it, but consider they are for sale and I can use them for something that's not illegal (creating accounts) I don't see anything bad. Actually, maybe I am one of the small people who actually do not require people documents but let them verify the accounts. Yes, I do offer them extra cash if they are willing to provide the scans for future verifications, but once again if they want. Yeah, this is not court and still even in 4th world country you are still innocent till proven otherwise. You can't point fingers for no reason or calling something you know nothing about illegal. Account sales are not illegal, especially created by that way, and allowing their sales if they are not created by illegal ways can only bring more traffic thru the forum. And please, do not play saints here... Everyone is lying about their stock... Like having 20xs9's but selling 100... This is really the same Well that's something you're going to have to prove if you want an exception here but exceptional claims are going to require some evidence. How do you really know the people you get the documents from aren't just telling you this lie, assuming you're not the one lying here? Identity theft using fake illegally obtained documents? :D That's not 1996 and you are not in Poland mate. Now it is 2020 and people selling their documents for 5-10 eur. Even Nigerian "prince" are smart enough to realize you can earn 1000eur for paying 5-10 euro. Why would anyone steal identity when you can buy it from someone who is willing for 5-10 euro ? There is no broken rules, there is only idiot who is running his mouth for nothing. I don't use fake or illegal documents, actually, they are more real than yours, obtained from people who are willing to sell them. I don't use them, I sell accounts created with their documents. I do not sell documents at all, as I said above if you even read that I don't even need their documents but they can provide verified accounts with their id's instead of providing documents. Like it or not, people don't need to steal documents since ages, at least the account sellers don't have/need to. People are selling them since ages. Well, in other hands, documents sellers are different thing. I will never EVER deal with stolen documents and I will never ever sell any documents :) Most rational people are not going to sell their own ID documents, especially when they're likely to be used for fraud or illegal activities, and that's why most of them are either faked at best or at worse are stolen or are from leaked KYC databases etc. Selling documents for 5-10 Euros is silly and is only going to get that person into trouble when the authorities come looking for them for crimes they probably didn't even commit, but that's why most of these documents are probably not given away voluntarily. I don't know why you're still running with this argument because it's not going to change anything so I'd suggest you take this sort of business onto the darknet as it really doesn't belong here and you're probably just wasting your time. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Redirexrs on November 24, 2020, 04:56:54 PM Quick edit: Not everyone buying documents for illegal activities. I do not accept creating accounts for betting for something illegal. People are not using them for criminal activities, but as everything (including bitcoin) can use them for criminal activities. No one knows, no one cares (at least the people who sell their ID's). This whole thing sounds like "Yes, there is aliens but I never seen one". >Not everyone buying documents for illegal activities. Read that again and think about it for just a second. lol Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: suchmoon on November 24, 2020, 05:07:53 PM I am running this argument and I will keep running it and I will offer my services now and in future because they do not violate any rules. Good boy. Getting yourself banned is the best thing you can do for this forum. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Joel_Jantsen on November 24, 2020, 09:50:30 PM I am running this argument and I will keep running it and I will offer my services now and in future because they do not violate any rules. I literally reported your thread and it got deleted. I'm not even making shit up and here's the proofhttps://i.imgur.com/nRJMoI2.png Why would you waste time creating threads and rebelling against the forum when you know all you are going to end up with getting your threads deleted and eventually banned. Doesn't make sense you've to spend all that energy on bitcointalk arguments when you can use that to find other sources of running your business somewhere else. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: actmyname on November 24, 2020, 10:07:33 PM For trying to argue about something you don't know (the other things above), I suggest you to open your eyes for not so "rational" people. "I'm not selling anything illegal! The reason that these people are doing something so irrational is because they are irrational! Obviously!"How many crazies are you in contact with, all of which are willing to sell their documents? And... do you honestly think it is acceptable to enable people to fraudulently use documents? Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: actmyname on November 24, 2020, 10:30:58 PM That's awesome mate, you just proof how the "Moderators" are breaking the rules and don't give a fuck about what the forum admin allow and not. My thread do not violate a single rule And with that sentence you demonstrate your lack of understanding of the rules. In particular, two moderators have already replied on this thread. In addition, I would advise you to look at the line that reads, "23. When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules."What does "acceptable to enable people to fraudulently use documents". Suppose I need to verify my identity, and I use someone else's documents. Let me throw the whole thing about 'not using other people's KYC information' out first to be generous and let's suppose that it's okay as long as you get the express permission of the owner. Do you host your own mini-KYC to make sure that the one selling you the documents for person A is actually person A? If not, how can you know that the documents were obtained legitimately?Answer: willful ignorance and plausible deniability which will serve as your excuse. Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Pmalek on November 24, 2020, 11:33:50 PM What exactly are you trying to achieve with your way of complaining? You have attacked everyone who told you about the possible reasons your threads are getting deleted, you are attacking the admins for deleting the threads, and its more than obvious that you wont get the support of any forum member here. So now your plan is to rebel and keep creating the same type of threads hoping for a different outcome? Does it look like things will change now?
Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: Chikito on December 05, 2020, 12:10:46 PM Now what is the reason for deleting topic of selling my PERSONAL accounts one of each ? :D Seems yes, you sell virtual bank (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1785577.msg47113788#msg47113788). Also, why you create another one (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5296849.msg55756723#msg55756723) even previous (https://ninjastic.space/post/55713237) post breaking the rules?.Do I break any rules ? :D Title: Re: Stop deleting something you don't like Post by: FIFA worldcup on December 05, 2020, 12:22:13 PM Account sales are not forbidden no matter you guys like it or not. Actually 60%+ of the accounts around are sold and we all know it. I don't give a fuck who Rambotnic is, maybe another pajeet like suchmoon Which accounts are you talking about ? Bitcointalk accounts sale is not recommend and it is not liked by the community. Any other account which is hacked or something will promote scam and also is not allowed. There is a valid reason why you posts are getting deleted. Try to understand before you end up losing your account permanently. |
