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Title: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Juggy777 on November 21, 2020, 07:23:57 AM
I’m stunned to read that Trump apparently wants Republican battleground states to ignore the will of the people, and cast their electoral votes in his favour, and if this happens then I believe it’ll be the end of the democracy in America (my personal opinion).

However the good news is that the states are not in favour of his proposal at least that’s what they’re saying to the media, but what if during voting they decide to cast their votes in Trump's favour won’t it create chaos in America?.

What do you’ll think will happen if the states bend to his will, will it be the end of America’s democracy?.

Source:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/20/trump-michigan-republicans-election


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 21, 2020, 08:29:16 AM
An independence received in 1776 till this very moment should be one strong enough to have become institutionalized. This is what democracy is and that is what the US democracy has become. No single person can decide the faith of the rest of the populace. Whether Trump concedes voluntarily nor not, one thing that is sure is that there is going to be a new tenant at the White House come January 20, 2021 or Trump will be bundled out of the White House.


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 21, 2020, 11:51:55 AM
It's funny how you can't admit that this whole election fraud is part of the biological assault on the world to take down trump and try to impose the nwo tyranny... at least, you are paid in btc I hope?


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Spendulus on November 21, 2020, 04:51:39 PM
I’m stunned to read that Trump apparently wants Republican battleground states to ignore the will ...

of the people

of the Dominion voting machines manipulated by the evil minions of George Soros....

Fixed it for you.


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: B1tUnl0ck3r on November 21, 2020, 04:53:58 PM
I’m stunned to read that Trump apparently wants Republican battleground states to ignore the will of the peopleof the Dominion voting machines manipulated by the minions of George Soros....

Fixed it for you.

Yeah, I think the problem you try to correct their troll factory :)... they can't already understand that CRISPR can be used to alter RNA... so you know... try to stick to lower things for them... like XY male can become female, that's the kind of logic they thrive in :).


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 21, 2020, 05:45:39 PM
I’m stunned to read that Trump apparently wants Republican battleground states to ignore the will of the people, and cast their electoral votes in his favour, and if this happens then I believe it’ll be the end of the democracy in America (my personal opinion).

However the good news is that the states are not in favour of his proposal at least that’s what they’re saying to the media, but what if during voting they decide to cast their votes in Trump's favour won’t it create chaos in America?.

What do you’ll think will happen if the states bend to his will, will it be the end of America’s democracy?.

Source:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/20/trump-michigan-republicans-election

what will of the people, the democrats lie about elections and are selling out the interests of the americans to foreigners, migrants, and migrant labour,

the democrats live on the back of the police and its time the police stops protecting them


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Gyfts on November 21, 2020, 06:21:17 PM
TheGuardian is a rag tabloid. I wouldn't take what they say for anything more than a grain of salt.

That being said, yes, we get it. Trump is doing everything he can to retain the Presidency. Doesn't mean he is breaking the law, and the Michigan GOP said they would not have electors that would overturn the results.


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 21, 2020, 06:29:57 PM
I’m stunned to read that Trump apparently wants Republican battleground states to ignore the will of the people, and cast their electoral votes in his favour, and if this happens then I believe it’ll be the end of the democracy in America (my personal opinion).

However the good news is that the states are not in favour of his proposal at least that’s what they’re saying to the media, but what if during voting they decide to cast their votes in Trump's favour won’t it create chaos in America?.

What do you’ll think will happen if the states bend to his will, will it be the end of America’s democracy?.

Source:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/20/trump-michigan-republicans-election

The will of the individual people of the whole country is that Trump remain President. You can tell by the rally counts that he and Biden had.

The will of a few corrupt people who want to take over the world is what you are talking about when you say the "will of the people."

The States seem to not be in favor of Trump, because it is State leaders that are not in favor of Trump. The individual people who live throughout the whole country of the USA, are in favor of Trump way over Biden.

If the States bend to the will of TRUTH, Trump will win, and we will see a tremendous change of power and strength coming back to the people of the USA, and the Swamp will be drained enough to set it back 100 years or more.

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Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: franky1 on November 21, 2020, 06:57:45 PM
trumps actions have nothing to do with helping citizens.
its all about HIM not wanting to go back to being a citizen again and having to answer for all the crimes he commited

he wants to squeeze as much time out of 'get out of jail free' card
and also take as much money with him.

remember the many crimes
sexual deviant
friend of a sexual deviant that assaulted kids
tax evasion


the only thing the quanon group have right about trump is that yes he is searching out child abusers.. to become their friends. he has been making friends with them since atleast the 90's

once out of office trump has alot of answers to give about the epstein stuff. stormy daniels. his own families finances. and much more

he is going to be a busy man after january


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Spendulus on November 21, 2020, 07:50:43 PM
TheGuardian is a rag tabloid. I wouldn't take what they say for anything more than a grain of salt. ....
You mean it's worse that dimwitted slobbering leftists on this forum? Surely not...

That being said, yes, we get it. Trump is doing everything he can to retain the Presidency. Doesn't mean he is breaking the law....
Time to sit back and watch the frantic antics of the anti-Trump as arguments are shaped for the Supreme Court.

Hint: About 40% of Democrats think the election was stolen by their party.


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 22, 2020, 12:26:19 AM
trumps actions have nothing to do with helping citizens.
its all about HIM not wanting to go back to being a citizen again and having to answer for all the crimes he commited

he wants to squeeze as much time out of 'get out of jail free' card
and also take as much money with him.

remember the many crimes
sexual deviant
friend of a sexual deviant that assaulted kids
tax evasion


the only thing the quanon group have right about trump is that yes he is searching out child abusers.. to become their friends. he has been making friends with them since atleast the 90's

once out of office trump has alot of answers to give about the epstein stuff. stormy daniels. his own families finances. and much more

he is going to be a busy man after january

what exactly is child abuse? if you read ancient religious books you so many examples of it.

it is honestly very difficult to say what child abuse is, traditionally religions defined most of the law related to child abuse. modern liberalist laws, are massively damaging to the sustainability of societies. many family businesses are unable to keep their second and following generation in the busness because of child abusal allegation at the point where the children are supposed to study.

the democrats have done a lot of damage to america's sustainability while the republicans want to protect it.

the democrats expect from the police simply to prepare beat their immigrant dreamers into well servering salary slaves, while doing that the democrats try to prolifirate themselves by calling the police "racists" "nazis" or "white supremacists" no one does so much racist identitiy politics like the corrupt democrats, and this is the party that for 50 years lectured on antiracism

the democrats are corrupt and must be disbanded


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Salauddin1994 on November 22, 2020, 03:48:00 AM
The US presidential election has ended with fierce competition and fierce fighting that election battle between incumbent republican president donald trump and democratic presidential candidate joe biden has created an unprecedented political crisis in the history of the us election. The aim is to pick electors who will support trump as president regardless of the outcome of the vote it's an unrealistic proposition that democrats do everything corruptly but legally order trump to leave the white house to win biden.


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 22, 2020, 05:57:55 PM
it is irresponsible to let corrupt biden and the corrupt democrats rule trump has no choice, but to stay in power


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: squatz1 on November 23, 2020, 02:56:53 AM
I’m stunned to read that Trump apparently wants Republican battleground states to ignore the will ...

of the people

of the Dominion voting machines manipulated by the evil minions of George Soros....

Fixed it for you.

LOL.

Are we acting like these systems weren't used in certain areas that Trump won as well? Is there a reason that these voting machines worked in areas that Trump won and didn't work in areas that Trump lost? - FXHedge is reporting that this is what is happening - https://twitter.com/Fxhedgers/status/1330681664704446466

Like Donald Trumps legal efforts aren't working at all and he is going to have to accept the fact that he lost pretty soon. Like, it's alright to lose sometimes and there is nothing wrong with that. The Senate will most likely end up being Republican so that means Biden will not be able to do much at all in regards to changing tax policy and things like that.


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Mauser on November 23, 2020, 11:21:49 AM
it is irresponsible to let corrupt biden and the corrupt democrats rule trump has no choice, but to stay in power

But the majority of people actually voted for Biden. What are they supposed to do when they see Trump is staying in office? I think they would also go to the streets and start riots. It looks like a lose lose situation. I just hope the transfer of power will be without violence.


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Spendulus on November 23, 2020, 02:46:29 PM
I’m stunned to read that Trump apparently wants Republican battleground states to ignore the will ...

of the people

of the Dominion voting machines manipulated by the evil minions of George Soros....

Fixed it for you.

LOL.

Are we acting like these systems weren't used in certain areas that Trump won as well? Is there a reason that these voting machines worked in areas that Trump won and didn't work in areas that Trump lost? -....

For decades the saying has been that for a Republican to win against a Democrat, "his vote margin must be outside the bounds of corruption."


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 23, 2020, 05:36:44 PM
You really need to look past the corrupt, lying media.


Courts and Congress will decide this election, not CNN (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/294830-2020-11-23-courts-and-congress-will-decide-this-election-not-cnn.htm)



In an op-ed for Fox News, Ellis explained that mainstream media outlets like CNN do not – we repeat, do not – have the authority to decide election outcomes. That job is reserved for the legal system, which exists in this context to ensure that elections are fair and honest.

"We all want to know who will be president for the next four years," Ellis wrote. "But all Americans should want accurate results above all, no matter who they supported in the race."

Ellis' article comes as Trump's legal team continues to file lawsuit after lawsuit in key battleground states where election fraud appears to have handed Biden questionable victories over President Trump.

Witnesses with signed affidavits have come forward to reveal "voting irregularities" in states like Georgia and Wisconsin, both of which appear to be headed to a recount. Other states like Alaska, Nevada, and Arizona are also still in play.

"As Americans, we should all be able to recognize that our rule of law governs and our election process works accurately," Ellis adds.

"For President Trump, the Trump 2020 campaign and the Republican National Committee, the rule of law, fundamental fairness, and accuracy in election results are the goals."

Why are Democrats opposed to a fair and honest election process?

As of this writing, not a single state has certified its election results. That time will come when all legal challenges are fully resolved, a process that will likely take several weeks to complete.


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Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: franky1 on November 23, 2020, 05:59:18 PM
CNN did not decide the results

the ballot counting facilities released info that when they got to a point where say there were only say 1000 votes left to count. but one candidate was way way way over 1000 ahead.

mathematically theres no way for the other candidate to overtake, meaning its a firm judgement by the counting facility to say that the candidate with most votes has got it.
it was then double confirmed at the finality of the count.

media just publish the info from the counting facility

anyway its old news now.. because the counting facilities have given their numbers.
heck some counting facilities even recounted since that news and came to the same result..again

so crying about how CNN reported the result. become meaningless

the count is the count... accept it and get over the loss


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 23, 2020, 06:11:45 PM
CNN did not decide the results

the ballot counting facilities released info that when they got to a point where say there were only say 1000 votes left to count. but one candidate was way way way over 1000 ahead.

mathematically theres no way for the other candidate to overtake, meaning its a firm judgement by the counting facility to say that the candidate with most votes has got it.
it was then double confirmed at the finality of the count.

media just publish the info from the counting facility

anyway its old news now.. because the counting facilities have given their numbers.
heck some counting facilities even recounted since that news and came to the same result..again

so crying about how CNN reported the result. become meaningless

the count is the count... accept it and get over the loss

the democrats as a movement systematically did voting fraud, as they systematically burned down american cities, the leftist movement in america needs to be shut down


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Zanab247 on November 23, 2020, 06:17:20 PM
American is well know as a country who take democracy serious in the country. Since Joe Biden defeat Donald Trump during the presidential election that just concluded November third, that is giving the citizens joy because all the vote was count during the election.
Trump is not powerful than the government that promise to maintain free and fair election to enable them to provide the right candidate to represent US. With time Trump will definitely step down for Joe Biden who won US presidential election .


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: franky1 on November 23, 2020, 06:17:44 PM
the democrats as a movement systematically did voting fraud, as they systematically burned down american cities, the leftist movement in america needs to be shut down

only the republicans wanted votes not to be counted.
only the republicans wanted counted votes to be disqualified
means only republicans wanted to create fraud

it was trump that tweeted that his fanboys and proudboys should go out and cause chaos



Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 23, 2020, 06:20:45 PM
the democrats as a movement systematically did voting fraud, as they systematically burned down american cities, the leftist movement in america needs to be shut down

only the republicans wanted votes not to be counted.
only the republicans wanted counted votes to be disqualified
means only republicans wanted to create fraud

it was trump that tweeted that his fanboys and proudboys should go out and cause chaos



what is the use if "votes" are being counted, that

where mixed with fake and illegal votes, (dead people, double and tripple voters, noncitizens, foreigners etc.)

or

where voted by the corrupt democrats, while republican overviewers where kept out, there are countless videos about that.

secondly, the democrats are simply a corrupt party, they want to disband the police, and rob people based on their color of their skin,

they are a corrupt party loaded with racial grievences, to end racism the democrats have to be shut down.

trump 2020 maga forever end the corrupt and evil democrats, and all their lies. together with their media channel etc.

and stop pretending you are communists, you are an evil mixture of socialists racists, and nazis.

fuck you and go to hell


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 23, 2020, 06:28:48 PM
the democrats as a movement systematically did voting fraud, as they systematically burned down american cities, the leftist movement in america needs to be shut down

only the republicans wanted votes not to be counted.
only the republicans wanted counted votes to be disqualified
means only republicans wanted to create fraud

it was trump that tweeted that his fanboys and proudboys should go out and cause chaos



what is the use if "votes" are being counted, that

where mixed with fake and illegal votes, (dead people, double and tripple voters, noncitizens, foreigners etc.)

or

where voted by the corrupt democrats, while republican overviewers where kept out, there are countless videos about that.

secondly, the democrats are simply a corrupt party, they want to disband the police, and rob people based on their color of their skin,

they are a corrupt party loaded with racial grievences, to end racism the democrats have to be shut down.

trump 2020 maga forever end the corrupt and evil democrats, and all their lies. together with their media channel etc.

and stop pretending you are communists, you are an evil mixture of socialists racists, and nazis.

fuck you and go to hell

Here's the answer to your "What if." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5fnf1yGUP8

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Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: Spendulus on November 27, 2020, 06:52:29 PM
....
where voted by the corrupt democrats, while republican overviewers where kept out, there are countless videos about that.

secondly, the democrats are simply a corrupt party, they want to disband the police, and rob people based on their color of their skin, ....

The destruction of the US Democratic Party has been a sad thing to watch. There are clearly internal struggles going on for control, much more obvious since the Hillary was cast out as a leader.


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 27, 2020, 10:20:51 PM
....
where voted by the corrupt democrats, while republican overviewers where kept out, there are countless videos about that.

secondly, the democrats are simply a corrupt party, they want to disband the police, and rob people based on their color of their skin, ....

The destruction of the US Democratic Party has been a sad thing to watch. There are clearly internal struggles going on for control, much more obvious since the Hillary was cast out as a leader.


as long as the democrats are still around and leftists still can live on the back of the police, and don't get robbed by the migrants they are calling we are still not finished


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: profullstack on November 27, 2020, 10:24:33 PM
Trump will no longer be President on January 20th at 12pm EST.



Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: KingScorpio on November 27, 2020, 10:35:20 PM
Trump will no longer be President on January 20th at 12pm EST.



and who will be president?

because there is no president elect, with certified election results


Title: Re: Trump’s dangerous last stand to retain power!!!
Post by: BADecker on November 28, 2020, 12:05:58 AM
Cases for Trump going to court. It takes a moment to set the case up. But we have it starting now. And the fact that Trump isn't mentioned as a plaintiff, makes it all the more sure. Why? If there are other people who show the fraud, it can't be used against Trump as a retaliatory action that he is doing.


COMPLAINT FOR DECLARATORY, EMERGENCY, AND PERMANENT INJUNCTIVE RELIEF (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/295083-2020-11-27-complaint-for-declaratory-emergency-and-permanent-injunctive-relief.htm)



NATURE OF THE ACTION

This civil action brings to light a massive election fraud, multiple violations of Georgia laws, including O.C.G.A. §§ 21-2-30(d), 21-2-31, 21-2- 33.1 and §21-2-522, and multiple Constitutional violations, as shown by fact witnesses to specific incidents, multiple expert witnesses and the sheer mathematical impossibilities found in the Georgia 2020 General Election. 1 1. As a civil action, the plaintiff's burden of proof is a "preponderance of the evidence" to show, as the Georgia Supreme Court has made clear that, " was not incumbent upon [Plaintiff] to show how the [] voters would have voted if their [absentee] ballots had been regular. [Plaintiff] only had to show that there were enough irregular ballots to place in doubt the result." Mead v. Sheffield, 278 Ga. 268, 272, 601 S.E.2d 99, 102 (2004) (citing Howell v. Fears, 275 Ga. 627, 571 S.E.2d 392 (2002). 1 The same pattern of election fraud and voter fraud writ large occurred in all the swing states with only minor variations, see expert reports, regarding Michigan, Pennsylvania, Arizona and Wisconsin. (See William M. Briggs Decl., attached here to as Exh. 1, Report with Attachment). Indeed, we believe that in Arizona at least 35,000 votes were illegally added to Mr. Biden's vote count.


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