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Title: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: Xtib on March 24, 2014, 07:55:03 PM

It looks like the Bitcoin foundation is preparing an enterprise version app for the iPhone.

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/847-soft-hack-around-apples-bitcoin-ban/


This means that the Bitcoin foundation will be responsible for the quality and security of the app.
Their app will not be tested by Apple and will not be available in the Apple app store.

Would you trust an app delivered to your iPhone in this ad hoc way? The Bitcoin foundation app would be
similar as to what is offered from a bank on the link below.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/profiles/standard-chartered/

You would have to be an employee or member of the Bitcoin foundation to be able to receive the app.

Does this sound appealing or not?



Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: Infectiphibian on March 24, 2014, 08:35:15 PM

It looks like the Bitcoin foundation is preparing an enterprise version app for the iPhone.

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/847-soft-hack-around-apples-bitcoin-ban/


This means that the Bitcoin foundation will be responsible for the quality and security of the app.
Their app will not be tested by Apple and will not be available in the Apple app store.

Would you trust an app delivered to your iPhone in this ad hoc way? The Bitcoin foundation app would be
similar as to what is offered from a bank on the link below.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/profiles/standard-chartered/

You would have to be an employee or member of the Bitcoin foundation to be able to receive the app.

Does this sound appealing or not?


Get an Android, root it, and never look back at Apple again. Apple is the anti-open source leader of proprietary system control.


Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: Infectiphibian on March 24, 2014, 09:16:58 PM

It looks like the Bitcoin foundation is preparing an enterprise version app for the iPhone.

https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/847-soft-hack-around-apples-bitcoin-ban/


This means that the Bitcoin foundation will be responsible for the quality and security of the app.
Their app will not be tested by Apple and will not be available in the Apple app store.

Would you trust an app delivered to your iPhone in this ad hoc way? The Bitcoin foundation app would be
similar as to what is offered from a bank on the link below.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/profiles/standard-chartered/

You would have to be an employee or member of the Bitcoin foundation to be able to receive the app.

Does this sound appealing or not?


Get an Android, root it, and never look back at Apple again. Apple is the anti-open source leader of proprietary system control.

I understand what you are saying, but then why is the Bitcoin foundation considering an ad hoc Apple app?
More importantly, would you trust either an Android or ad hoc Apple app from the Bitcoin foundation?


I would trust them only if the source code was available. Not that I know how to read code, but others in the community can review it.


Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: runam0k on March 24, 2014, 09:55:36 PM
Ideally it would be open source and community driven/supported, but even if it's not, I'd trust it enough to use it as a hot wallet. 

There's a start-up trying to do the same thing:
http://www.coindesk.com/coc-ios-bitcoin-wallet-apple/

The iPhone is a decent product used by millions of people.  It deserves a fully functional Bitcoin wallet.  Until Apple changes its policy, it looks like this may be the only way.

(I use Android btw.)


Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: Infectiphibian on March 24, 2014, 10:03:44 PM
Ideally it would be open source and community driven/supported, but even if it's not, I'd trust it enough to use it as a hot wallet. 

There's a start-up trying to do the same thing:
http://www.coindesk.com/coc-ios-bitcoin-wallet-apple/

The iPhone is a decent product used by millions of people.  It deserves a fully functional Bitcoin wallet.  Until Apple changes its policy, it looks like this may be the only way.

(I use Android btw.)
I was first under the impression that the phone would have to be jail broke before a Bitcoin app would work.  After reading the Coindesk story, that is not the case. I can see Apple pulling the license like the Gameboy emulator that the story references though. And yes, Apple makes a decent product, but their effort to keep the user safe is very restrictive.

SORRY OP FOR TURNING YOUR THREAD INTO IPHONE VS ANDROID 


Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: teukon on March 24, 2014, 10:18:48 PM
No trust is required.

Someone who's holding bitcoins on an iPhone, irrespective of the method, should not be storing more than they cannot easily lose in full.



Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: ArticMine on March 25, 2014, 01:53:33 AM
First I must say that I am fairly neutral on the subject of the Bitcoin Foundation. There is a place for a corporate side of Bitcoin to complement the activist side. The best analogy is Open Source (corporate) complementing Free Software (activist).

This however is a terrible idea on the part of the Bitcoin Foundation. The most likely result is that Apple will close the loophole by pulling the license, making the Bitcoin Foundation look like fools and furthermore undermining the work that the Bitcoin Foundation can do on the corporate side. The best approach on how to deal with Apple is a combination of the following:

1) Call for a boycott of Apple products. One must keep in mind that Bticoin is only one of multitude of ideas and thoughts that Apple has censored. (activist side).
2) Develop IOS Bitcoin applications only for jailbroken devices and encourage jailbreaking of Apple devices (activist side).
3) Follow the very successful model of the SAMBA project and FSFE against Microsoft and launch an anti-trust action in a jurisdiction with a high chance of success. The EU is a good candidate. The idea is to force Apple to open up its closed IOS devices to non Apple store applications and cause Apple to bleed a few billion euros in the process. This worked very well with Microsoft! (corporate side).
4) If you are a whale and in the proper market conditions consider shorting Apple stock. (corporate side). In a few years given the past history of the Bitcoin price this could hurt Apple big time.
5) Other ideas along these lines.

It is Apple who has chosen to start a war with the Bitcoin community, and it is time that we strike back hard.


Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: maurya78 on March 25, 2014, 06:23:09 AM
No chance
Only if it's android-based


Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: ArticMine on March 25, 2014, 07:24:42 AM
No chance
Only if it's android-based

There are other Phone OS options, other than Android, based on FLOSS such as Ubuntu phone that are perfectly suitable to run a Bitcoin client.


Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: Lethn on March 25, 2014, 07:27:23 AM
The foundation members have proven themselves to be an extremely dodgy and untrustworthy bunch, they act a lot like mainstream politicians, claiming to speak for people and lead them but in the backroom they're getting up to all sorts purely for their own benefit, you also have to pay them money if you want to become an 'official' member of their community as a merchant and the 'election' they have only allows foundation members to vote for them as far as I'm aware.

So no, I don't trust them in the slightest.


Title: Re: Would you trust the Bitcoin foundation to offer an enterprise iPhone app?
Post by: notbatman on March 25, 2014, 01:15:25 PM
Remember what Khan did to the crew of the Enterprise in Star Trek 2? Could such a scenario be possible with the Foundation?