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Title: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on November 23, 2020, 11:01:27 AM
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE TIRE OUT

Do you ever get tired of helping or answering the same related question over and over again?
I just had that experience or recent and just when I was about heating up about it, a little pause was all that was needed to cool down.
Its not strange that we have influx of new users almost on a daily or weekly base amongst us and they seem to have been very familiar with the create new topic icon even before they could read what ever it is on the board and it often happens that, the pinned posts which is supposedly meant to be some form of first orientation  Newbies - Read before posting  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0) eludes them rather easily, not minding it's position on the board or the it's directive to whom it is meant! It's pretty funny but it happens and as such, we and up having rather reoccurring familiar questions in different perspective and most times, we tire out and would want to give it a blind look or just screw up but no. The need to give a helping hand is what should be the resort, to build a blank mind from the scratch.

There is a reason why this forum has a core value as Learning. Everything about learning is education and to be specific, education in Bitcoin as relates to this forum. Learning is a continuous process, it's the only process that I know to never ends. Show me who knows all and I'll show you an ignorant man (not specific to gender). The beauty of learning is that it goes both ways as, the one doing the teaching can also learn something from the questions asked! The more you teach, the more you know. No wonder our high school professors always seem to know all or too much in our eyes. Then again, educating goes both ways, as much as the teacher is ready to impact, you must be ready to receive, have your doubts and clear them. Education has been known to build feature generations and it's important to note that, we've all been there! Where the forum seemed too ambiguous for us to comprehend but we gradually through perseverance adapted and now, we welcome and build feature generations.
After conceiving this idea, I took sometime to design a picture of some possibilities when we fail to offer a helping hand to who really needs and deserves it and here is what I came up with;

Why you shouldn't tire out

https://i.imgur.com/5vyRgPf.jpg

In the first instance, I had to go with a telecommunication transmitter held by cables and on one side, I used the various ranks of which the effect when we tire out is seen in the second phase which ends up crashing right on us.
In the second illustration, the forum ranks is seen as a mountain of work loads and confusions if which the experience members tires out and the biginner just tried to destroy the system by digging it up (this is seen in the activities of scammers, hackers, spammers, false news promoters etc).
Note: I'm not saying not helping or tiring out are the main reason for these neither is it the last resort of those who fail to grasp the ways of the forum but, trying to make a point using pictures.

So, it's necessary that we should continue the educating process and hope that the beginners give their alll in trying to get the information been past out so, our tomorrow in Bitcoin would be safe.
Do this and as we grow in numbers, we grow too in knowledge and strength.
Long live Bitcoin and Bitcointalk


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: UserU on November 23, 2020, 11:43:20 AM
We all were newbies at some point, so there are still helpful members around here. But just like how unique every human being is, there are those that don't give a toss and they're in the minority.

Wherever there's a community, there would be help at some point.

And great drawing you have there :)


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: superving on November 23, 2020, 11:53:54 AM
All members of the forum especially high rank members went from being a newbie they also ask questions before so its theor duty also to help newbies on thier problems.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: ZaraCB on November 23, 2020, 12:48:40 PM
Everyone's journey on the BitcoinTalk forum starts from Newbie. No one joins the forum after knowing everything but tries to know everything after joining the forum. Every day thousands of members are joining this forum. As a result, the same question comes up again and again and our senior members are answering all these questions with utmost patience.

It is not possible for a human being to know everything. One may be the master of one subject but does not know anything of another subject.  As a result, we all need the help of others. Bitcoin Forum is a community, so we should all help each other.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: crypto.curious on November 23, 2020, 02:36:45 PM
Well said everyone! And for this i can attest myself (as a complete n00b), i have asked almost one million questions(!!!) and everyone are really quick to respond and with complete responses and sites for me to cross-reference!
Keep up the good work!

Warmest regards.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: Lucius on November 23, 2020, 03:04:24 PM
Do you ever get tired of helping or answering the same related question over and over again?
I just had that experience or recent and just when I was about heating up about it, a little pause was all that was needed to cool down.

People are not machines to work constantly until they break down, so it is normal for them to rest from time to time, and in the case of forums to be less active sometimes. Fortunately, not everyone will rest at the same time, so there will always be someone who can help beginners. It is not a problem for me to answer questions that are repeated, especially if they are honestly asked and do not serve for hidden promotion/advertising. There are a lot of beginners who find relevant information on their own, but those for whom English is not very good often ask questions that already have an answer.

After all, we all get our knowledge from someone else and it's nice to share it with other people - especially if we help someone avoid scam and lose hard-earned money.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: plvbob0070 on November 23, 2020, 03:06:18 PM
It will definitely come at a particular point, as you will encounter several members asking multiple questions and issues that can be easily searched online to be resolved. But you need to be self-aware, that you have also experienced difficulties when you were starting. The best we can do is help and guide them, although there will be a time when you will need to discuss things repeatedly and make constructive criticisms. We also went from there where we barely know anything so it's like simply giving back what you have learned. Eventually, despite having that feeling, you will still end up clarifying their questions and giving ideas about their concerns.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: DdmrDdmr on November 23, 2020, 04:03:09 PM
The recurrence of questions is pretty much unavoidable over time, and while some of them retain a context that mostly is unaltered (i.e. questions about those thingies called Merits), there are many other types of questions whose answers may depend on the subtleties provided in the context of the question, and that therefore may warrant a requery in their own right.

It’s probably questions that are placed without a context that are a bit more off-putting (i.e. I’m new, tell me all about this or that, while I lie back with my feet on the table and wait for a stream of answers). Being new does not mean one cannot perform some research first, which then enriches the question through both a better understanding on behalf of whom ever  places the question, and the general context it bathes in.

There are a couple of recent Newbie accounts (one would rather believe that they are genuinely new, as opposed to Alts) that do the above, and provide their questions in a certain context. That is a win-win for the forum really, and even if the depicted scenario is not new, the context bears specifics that one is perhaps happier to engage with.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: GDragon on November 23, 2020, 05:05:07 PM
I don't get really tired reading the same questions over and over again cause somehow I do understand those legit newbies who are having a hard time adjusting to the look of the forum, I also find it hard to where would I start reading cause all I see is words and words, so maybe some of them starts creating their own questions so all the answers are already there, in one place. But I think a few good answers and link to where would they start would help. I just respond to those threads If I can contribute something that isn't already posted by other members.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: ScamViruS on November 23, 2020, 06:43:18 PM
All members of the forum especially high rank members went from being a newbie they also ask questions before so its theor duty also to help newbies on thier problems.

This is a normal activity. Everyone tries to help others so that this community has grown so big. Community members are very helpful, they always support newbie and try to solve all kinds of problems. It takes a lot of hard work to get from a newbie member to a higher rank, and if you encounter a problem, you can ask community members about your problem.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: Coyster on November 23, 2020, 07:06:28 PM
I like the message your art work depicts, it also looks cool; on the issue of regurgitated questions, there are inquiries that are much better to clarify than others, even if they are asked over and again, for example, lately there have been few newbies asking questions about hardware wallets cause they want to buy some btc and need the safest kind of wallet, inquiries such as this one can't go wrong, and the discussions that follow will be educative, not just for the inquirer, but for other users likewise.

Having said that, if you're going to ask questions, you should at least make sure the answers you'll get back are going to teach you something new that you can't at the very least 'easily' find yourself, or if you're going to introduce yourself, follow this quote below:
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If you feel the need to post an introduction thread please take the effort to write something substantial or don't bother at all. Threads and post that contain only one word/sentence such as "hello & welcome to the forum" will be removed without warning as it causes unnecessary clutter.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: AakZaki on November 25, 2020, 11:17:28 AM
The recurrence of questions is pretty much unavoidable over time, and while some of them retain a context that mostly is unaltered (i.e. questions about those thingies called Merits), there are many other types of questions whose answers may depend on the subtleties provided in the context of the question, and that therefore may warrant a requery in their own right.

It’s probably questions that are placed without a context that are a bit more off-putting (i.e. I’m new, tell me all about this or that, while I lie back with my feet on the table and wait for a stream of answers). Being new does not mean one cannot perform some research first, which then enriches the question through both a better understanding on behalf of whom ever  places the question, and the general context it bathes in.

There are a couple of recent Newbie accounts (one would rather believe that they are genuinely new, as opposed to Alts) that do the above, and provide their questions in a certain context. That is a win-win for the forum really, and even if the depicted scenario is not new, the context bears specifics that one is perhaps happier to engage with.

New members who join this forum have different goals and not only because this forum makes a lot of money working on the campaigns it provides. However, most new members are lazy to research something new and only ask the same question repeatedly without trying to use the search feature first. We as seniors for quite a while can only direct where they should learn what they need.

Beginners who join today have more challenges than beginners in the past because the forum system is getting better.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: VDraci on November 25, 2020, 12:09:47 PM
A round of applause for this OP, I've been seeing people complaining about posts that have been created many times before and this posts are strictly warning newbies, I end up been the only one ( maybe there are others ) tell people to keep making such posts once in a while because it's every time we always see newbies on this forum, we have to keep warning them about dangers ahead, it's because no one is warning newbies that's why they are getting caught in scammers trap most times, newbies lacks the knowledge are we old members are the only one standing between newbies and scammers


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: cheezcarls on November 25, 2020, 12:20:24 PM
Before we were educators in the crypto and blockchain space, we are used to be newbies and beginners back then. We kept asking questions over and over again because we simply don’t understand what they mean or it needs some deep clarification. This is exactly what I am doing as a newbie and beginner in the crypto space.

Now that I am educating the masses about crypto and blockchain, I can relate that a lot of beginners keep asking the same questions. I had one good beautiful friend who call me “master” lol, despite that I keep telling her to just call me my first name. And yeah, she was my college classmate back then. She kept asking a lot of questions to me over and over again because she was so interested, so I never get tired because I know one day it’ll be worth it. Same thing goes to others as well.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on November 25, 2020, 04:31:37 PM
She kept asking a lot of questions to me over and over again because she was so interested, so I never get tired because I know one day it’ll be worth it. Same thing goes to others as well.
Educating is the what goes out is never lost kind of thing. It goes out to build should it fall on a fertile mind. At times, most persons might feel that they've done a lot and so, would any to live it for others or get irritated haven seen a previously treated question but just from a different user and yes! That's the why you shouldn't relent right there, different user! Because, it is on this user that your impact is felt, when ignorant minds willing to learn surrounds you, then your work is not yet done.
You teach, you answer until they can teach and answer while you guide. Keep winning guys, the battle on ignorance is not yet over.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: robelneo on November 25, 2020, 04:48:09 PM
All members of the forum especially high rank members went from being a newbie they also ask questions before so its theor duty also to help newbies on thier problems.

It's a different way back when I was a newbie there are few newbies back then back when the rules are not that very strict where there are a lot of spammers, the rules were created for newbies to upgrade the discussion and keep it healthy for the sake of those coming in the future, and some of the high-rank members now are the product of those rules.

High-rank members should not stop helping newbies because these are the future contributor to this forum, I used to have a merit thread on this section and looking to launch one soon.


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: qwertyup23 on November 26, 2020, 11:36:54 AM
I do understand that helping newbies is a paramount duty to every member of the forum (regardless of one's rank) as they will be the future members who will continue the cycle in the future.

The problem stems from repetitive questions which can be easily searched in the 'search bar' located at the right side of the forum. Everyone has their limitation and patience but I do hope that newbies would also do their part (i.e. exploring different boards, using the search bar, etc.) before they ask questions. Though learning cryptocurrencies is a relatively difficult task, once you do your part, you need to let them do theirs so they would learn.




Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: Mighty_crypt on November 26, 2020, 03:01:29 PM
All members of the forum especially high rank members went from being a newbie they also ask questions before so its theor duty also to help newbies on thier problems.
Not me, I can keep answering the same questions multiple times because it's not from the same person who asked before, I'm sure I'm saving more newbies doing this, I hope people will do the same I believe this is the only way we can safe many newbies from making big mistakes like getting scammed


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: sujonali1819 on November 26, 2020, 03:07:57 PM
Correct, People who are higher ranked here should not tire out with real beginners here. Yes, I am saying real beginners, because there are a lot of fake newbies here in this forum. They also have a lot of farming accounts. So we should also catch them to reduce the spamming. Also, those people, who are trying to create a new account to do scams.

When I was a newbie I take 3-4 months to understand how actually the forum works, and know all sections and boards and it's functions. So I always feel the situation of a newbie. But I don't appreciate the fake newbies because if we will lose the traffics here maybe the forum will be vanished one day, again if this forum will full of scammer company will not come here to promote them means the forum will vanish slowly :)


Title: Re: Why you shouldn't tire out with bignners
Post by: unclelucky on November 27, 2020, 07:19:57 AM
Been a newbie is never a crime because everyone here have been in that stage too mostly the legend we all have in the forum has been a newbie it all require patient and hard work.