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Are there proof?
If there was some kind of diseases...are there is actual proofs that was covid.
I can comply by the laws and wear the masks... But for me I have not seen clear evidence that everything we heard are truth?
And many people think same as I do.
Sure I follow the orders and things like that but for me its not clear what it is and where it come from.
And is covid real?
I belive that words dont mean nothing the government can not be trusted and news not trusted well If its all is how it is then no problem!!

But need better proof, as im Business person I use to do a deals and agreements so i have learned everything is about proof.

Until now there is no clear evidence about covid 19.
Im not saying that can not exist im saying need facts and more info.


We live in the world when persons and government honestly are questionble...
Like biden fraud allegations If those things happening it means government officicials need to proof more that what they say are truth.

Anyone who say against something what I just said could be well off the good shill or liar too!!
So If you telling covid is real please provide evidence  the World you can trust only  2-3 people your friends your family and even they can betray you.
So to belive some stranger person telling you something, well need strong evidence to back words.

Let me repeat im not saying covid is not true!!
I can not say anything without proof but there is no evidence either that the covid are what it is.

When will you Believe that this is true,If one of your  love one died because of this Virus?Isn't enough proof that Million are dying and there are large people that still fighting for their lives?

and what will change your life if you will believe that This is true?

Many had doubts about the virus, I watched the long videos of persons who seem to believe governments are conspiring together all these. But the truth is that you don't wanna spend money if you feel like you are not infected with covid19 while the doctors are going to insist you have covid.

The proof is that many are dead. Whether they died of covid or not, they are dead and declared to have covid.

What do you mean the real evidence here? a picture of a covid19 or a covid19 can be seen with your own eyes. Go to the hospital, quarantine and find proof of you stop being an entrepreneur and you will have the answer. In fact, a lot of people died. Hospitals are overloaded, sweaty sweat of many people have spent. are you still comfortable and find real evidence?

I am not a Medical person so i cannot attest of Covid existence but I believe that this is true because of the reaction of the whole world.
I don't think they are fool enough just to scare people about the Virus that is not existing.and also there are people dying everyday,There are patients that fighting for their Lives just to survive this virus.
Maybe better to just follow the Health protocol for our own safety.

There are proofs in the world for those who keep their eyes and ears open. Covid isn't something you can physically see or smell. It's not tangible and because its symptoms are similar to other common diseases, it's harder to detect. If it was a hoax then it wouldn't have claimed the lives of millions of people. The virus is real and the threat is real. Please take it seriously for yourself and for your loved ones.

can you prove that the flu is real???
disease in general requires a real patient to be authenticated based on the diagnosis. if you want to believe that covid 19 is real then go to the hospital where positive covid 19 patients are treated.  :D

There is no proof that this so called "virus" exists, there is a scientific procedure to identify and isolate a virus, this has never been done. There is a lot of open information about absence of clear evidence even in WHO and CDC documents but not too many search for them. They just used to believe all the government say. It's a big world hoax, hospitals are empty, no death rising statistics. Even if you use your common sence you can ask: if the virus is so deadly does this piece of fabric really save my life? Complete nonsense. Their agent is total vaccination, depopulation and digital totalitarian state, Bill Gates is pretty clear about it and you cab find it in open sources too. Check World Economic Forum, they don't even hide their plans anymore. There are many doctors, virusologists signed petitions in many countries already against this scamdemic but mass media is silent as usual..

there have been thousands upon thousands of scientific procedures and all prove its real.
please stop getting your stupidity from conspiracy sites.

and no there is no WHO conspiracy because even countries independent of CDC/WHO, have done studies and decentralised review and found covid is real
again please stop searching idiot conspiracy sites and instead look at the research
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common sense tells you if you are about to sneeze. putting a tissue infront your nose is enough to capture your sneeze and prevent someone standing a metre infront of you from getting a face full of snot and fluid.

common sense tells you if you are in a housefire. covering your face with a piece of fabric filters out most of the nasty stuff you can inhale. yes you breathe easier in a smokey room if you cover your face

common sense tells you if someone farts. covering your face limits how much stink you smell..
so face coverings do work both for you on the receiving end of nasties and you on the transmitting end of nasties

and yes in all examples above distance helps too

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scientifically its proven too. pre march lockdown the R rate was over 3. and the ratio of asymptomatic:symptomatic was high with more people getting sick per population number
then with just social distance lockdown. this brought the R rate down. and masks/facecoverings brought down the ratio of asymp:symp

Yes, I agree with that. What I believe is that is has been exaggerated though.

Btw franky1: I replied to you precisely on this subject here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291945.msg55660573#msg55660573) and you haven't said anything. I don't know if you didn't see it. Anyway I'd be interested in what you think. We may not agree but you give good arguments to defend what you say.

There are loads of videos where it is proven by common sense, and through science, that lockdowns, masks and the medical are and have been the cause of spreading the disease and killing thousands way more than if there hadn't been any intervention at all. Look here https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ to see the videos that prove this. Then search for many more videos and audios all over the Internet that show the same. Sign up here https://thehighwire.com/, for free, to get the sources for everything expressed in the videos.

Some individual videos to watch are:
GETTING COVID PROTECTS YOU FOR YEARS - https://www.bitchute.com/video/sj4F67ykuSCr/
NIH MASK ARTICLE SERIOUSLY FLAWED - https://www.bitchute.com/video/xLasCAi3dNYY/
NEW STUDY CASTS DOUBT ON MASK EFFICACY - https://www.bitchute.com/video/agcXweuvHfoS/
FORMER WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL ON DEADLY COST OF LOCKDOWN - https://www.bitchute.com/video/xou0Pn9MoZz6/

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It's ok that you're confused about the situation.

But the death tolls and infected numbers are increasing. What's wrong with that? let's say that the number isn't perfect and accurate but how about those numbers of death?

They're increasing.

Death statistics for any year go up and down all the time throughout any year.

All we have are 2 things: a standard change in death statistics that is the same as for any year, up and down; transfers of deaths from many other causes to Covid. No real increases.

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Without going to the extremes that you go to, this whole thing smells bad to me. Nor do I have the knowledge that you seem to have.

But there are several things that are suspicious: the detected cases of flu have dropped drastically this year. Some people say it's because of hygiene measures, such as washing your hands and wearing masks but why are the cases of coronavirus still on the rise? The symptoms are similar.

It smells bad.

On the other hand: I know of several cases of people living with people with coronavirus and they don't catch it. They continue to be negative after several tests, but isn't it so contagious that we have to wear masks?

And finally: how quickly the vaccines will be marketed, which will give juicy profits to the pharmaceutical companies and the exemption of responsibility to the latter if there are harmful effects in the long term.

Let me ask you a question in return, what kind of disease/virus do you know that looks like the flu at first but injuires your lungs very badly in a few days? I haven't heard before 2020 that a lot of people had to go on a respirator due to an infection. If we had such diseases before, why wasn't it made public in the last 30 years? I haven't heard of such a disease from friends or colleagues before. But now this year I know 2 older people who were treated in the ICU and quite a few friends tested positive but had no symptoms. I don't think there is any real reason why my friends grandfather who is 78 would be lying about such a disease.

The easy beginning of the answers to some of your questions, is to ask the real question that the thread title should ask. "Is there any proof that Covid is Covid?" Think about it.

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It will never change the mortality rate and covid19 is just one of the reasons for it.

And it will also never change the fact that I've seen the real cause of covid19 taken the lives of people.

That still doesn't explain what Covid is. To some, Covid is a pandemic. To others, it has become a curse word. To others, it means rallies and demonstrations. Many in government are using it as a tool to take away rights.

The one thing that we have no public proof of is that Covid is a virus. Regarding this, all we have is blab on several levels.

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Those are facts on what this covid19 pandemic made.

But it's your belief if it's not a virus and there's no proof of its existence. But in my belief, I've got reasons to say that it's really happening.

Well, it's funny because I've seen the same argument about AIDS. As I said, I don't know much about viruses or medicine but I've seen people denying that AIDS is a result of a virus.

My question then is: how come most doctors don't speak out publicly against this deception? Are they all paid by Big Pharma? I find that hard to believe. There are only a few who contradict the official version.

i did some reasearch about covid:

here is the conclusion:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5294038.msg55701700#msg55701700

Does the number of infected and deceased by the virus isn't enough proof for you?
Does it need to infect someone you knew or close to you in order for you to believe it?
At first I also doubt it but the whole world is facing it and it and having a hard time looking for a cure I think it should be enough proof to know that it is real.

That's the point. Are the infected and deceased, infected and killed by a Covid virus?

People who aren't trained doctors and researchers have to take the word of the trained doctors and researchers.

The next question is, do doctors and researchers isolate the virus? That is, do they do research wherein they actually separate the virus from other materials so that they know they actually have the virus? The answer is, No. They simply take the word of specialists.

The next question is, did the specialists actually find a virus that they proved was the Covid that is making us sick? The answer is, there are basically two ways to know. Ask them or read their reports. So far, there aren't any clear reports showing how they did the work in such a way that they could factually prove that there is a Covid virus.

How do we know that they didn't do it the right way? Because there are strict procedures, written in River's upgrade of Koch's Postulates that have to be followed to find the virus, and keep the testing from being contaminated. The only reports that we have of the process being done shows that there was the potential for not only contamination, but the potential for isolating the wrong substance.

What was the biggest failure in the process? The researchers didn't apply their so-called virus that they found to a large test group of people, to see if it infect them. And since they didn't do this (according to their reports), there is no way they can isolate the virus from each of these test subjects to see if it matches the virus they injected into these test subjects, to see if it is Covid that is making them sick.


All around the world there are doctors and researchers... thousands of them, hundreds of thousands of them, maybe millions of them. Some doctor or researcher might have done the isolation of the virus correctly, including the test subject part. There's no way to ask them all. But we haven't seen it, yet.

Do you know where the test report of the process being done correctly is? Please send us the link and show us the details of enough of the process, right literally out of the report copied and pasted, so that we can see that there was a correct test done.

If you can't do this, there is no way for you to know that there even is a Covid virus... except by having faith in some doctors and researchers when they say it was done.

Personally, I don't trust them... especially since they don't seem to have the details of their virus isolation work laid out in a report.

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Many honest doctors speak out publicly and sign petitions but they are being shut up, mass media don't let them speak on main channels, they are all being censored. There was no any public discussion, many social media channels censor and don't let out any information(even though it's from Nobel prize doctors and scientists) which is not in line with official WHO position. They ban and remove channels and publications that they don't like. So much for freedom of speech, yeah sure...

The proofs are everywhere and we don’t need anymore proofs. A lot has been in few months and there has been lots of global stress as many economies experience negative change.

i think there is enough proof of people dying from it , but there no proof its man made. for me it is . i dont think a virus can target ones very weak spot and come just from nothing...

It's for real.

Those families and individuals that have been hit by it tells the truth that it's real. Yes, those sufferings and people who have died from it are the proofs.

And those who have survived that have told their covid experiences.

But what is IT?

IT? is causing people to become sick and die.

IT? has been given the name "Covid."

IT? might be a virus, but probably isn't, because nobody has shown an isolation being done. What they show is researchers putting snippets of stuff together to make something, and then calling it a virus. So, it might be a man-made virus. But nobody has proven that it affects anyone by injecting him with it and then the subject getting sick from the injection.

Maybe IT? is simply a form of malnutrition.

Maybe IT? is a form of government takeover.

Got any proof for what IT? is? Or did you only get a bunch of hearsay you heard from the news media or some doctor somewhere, who doesn't really know what he is talking about, because he is simply another form of the media.


That's what I said. You are spouting hearsay. Did you ever see a virus? Find us a video of someone doing an isolation of Covid. At least find their lab notebook of the isolation where they initialed all the pages as they did the isolation. The proof isn't there.


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