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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: abokhalel2 on November 28, 2020, 05:36:43 AM



Title: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: abokhalel2 on November 28, 2020, 05:36:43 AM
They recently carried out an airdrop in the telegram bot and now it has been deleted. I went to the chat and asked why it was deleted (I did not spam, I left only 1 message) and no one answered me, after a few hours I go to the chat to see the answer, but I was deleted from the chat. I did not violate any rules, I was just removed from the chat without explanation.


I want the bounty manager to reply to this post - Hhampuz


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: Hhampuz on November 28, 2020, 05:43:54 AM
I don't know why you want me to reply here?

The bot is/was not mine.
The telegram channel is not mine.
The project is not mine.

I'm running the Bounty and I handle all Bounty related questions/issues. I have none of the answers you seek.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: Josefjix on November 28, 2020, 05:53:53 AM
Airdrop and Bounty are separate campaigns I'm afraid to tell yo, Hhampuz might not be able to give an adequate answer to concerns raised as he is only managing the Bounty campaign of the project. You can message one of the CM in the group to provide you with an answer why you were removed and deleted, you must have violated a rule.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: abokhalel2 on November 28, 2020, 05:54:31 AM
I don't know why you want me to reply here?

The bot is/was not mine.
The telegram channel is not mine.
The project is not mine.

I'm running the Bounty and I handle all Bounty related questions/issues. I have none of the answers you seek.

They even changed / deleted the id of their group, it is now impossible to find it.

How should I receive a reward if the conditions say that I should join her, but I was just removed

but I know that you are only responsible for the bounty, but it is not normal to remove from the group just like that.

Airdrop and Bounty are separate campaigns I'm afraid to tell yo, Hhampuz might not be able to give an adequate answer to concerns raised as he is only managing the Bounty campaign of the project. You can message one of the CM in the group to provide you with an answer why you were removed and deleted, you must have violated a rule.

How can I ask him a question if I do not have their contacts, the group is not available?


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: Coin_trader on November 28, 2020, 05:58:52 AM
I don't know why you want me to reply here?

The bot is/was not mine.
The telegram channel is not mine.
The project is not mine.

I'm running the Bounty and I handle all Bounty related questions/issues. I have none of the answers you seek.

They even changed / deleted the id of their group, it is now impossible to find it.

How should I receive a reward if the conditions say that I should join her, but I was just removed

Reward for bounty campaign? If yes, Then let Hhampuz deal with it until it finish. If the reward you are talking about is not bounty related question then you are addressing your concern to the wrong person.

Posting some evidence of your statement will really help to file a formal scam accusation to the project.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: abokhalel2 on November 28, 2020, 06:02:47 AM
I don't know why you want me to reply here?

The bot is/was not mine.
The telegram channel is not mine.
The project is not mine.

I'm running the Bounty and I handle all Bounty related questions/issues. I have none of the answers you seek.

They even changed / deleted the id of their group, it is now impossible to find it.

How should I receive a reward if the conditions say that I should join her, but I was just removed

Reward for bounty campaign? If yes, Then let Hhampuz deal with it until it finish. If the reward you are talking about is not bounty related question then you are addressing your concern to the wrong person.

Posting some evidence of your statement will really help to file a formal scam accusation to the project.

The conditions say that I must definitely join the telegram channel. I was removed from there just like that, maybe by accident, I don't know (the channel ID was also changed or deleted)

Therefore, I wrote to Humpuzz to clarify this situation.

https://i.ibb.co/5M6r5tv/emp.png (https://ibb.co/7YXnG8V)


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: holydarkness on November 28, 2020, 06:40:57 AM
The conditions say that I must definitely join the telegram channel. I was removed from there just like that, maybe by accident, I don't know (the channel ID was also changed or deleted)

Therefore, I wrote to Humpuzz to clarify this situation.

I tried to understand the situation here, which of these following questions is correct; They have a separate channel for airdrop? That is not managed by Hhampuz? The submission was made to bot? And you were removed from the airdrop channel (not bounty)?


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: abokhalel2 on November 28, 2020, 07:32:14 AM
The conditions say that I must definitely join the telegram channel. I was removed from there just like that, maybe by accident, I don't know (the channel ID was also changed or deleted)

Therefore, I wrote to Humpuzz to clarify this situation.

I tried to understand the situation here, which of these following questions is correct; They have a separate channel for airdrop? That is not managed by Hhampuz? The submission was made to bot? And you were removed from the airdrop channel (not bounty)?

There was an airdrop and it was removed. I asked why. I was removed from the chat. To qualify for the award, I have to join their telegram, from which I was simply removed.

That's why I wanted Humpuz to figure out this problem (maybe he somehow closely communicates with the project team)


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on November 28, 2020, 07:36:37 AM
Posting some evidence of your statement will really help to file a formal scam accusation to the project.
The image he shared is true. The group discussion changed into an airdrop alert. Ive checked the link of their telegram group on Ann and bounty thread when I went there its become an airdrop telegram. Maybe they can explained it the team themselve.


Didn't see the telegram group before so I don't know if this was changed or from the start it is really like that. This thing needs only clarification. But I can see the token has been traded on uniswap already with a decent volume. Since no group discussion anymore youll find hard OP to get answer. Unless Hhampuz helped you to clarify this. But of course you can't force him since he only manage the bounty.

You can message one of the CM in the group to provide you with an answer why you were removed and deleted, you must have violated a rule.
Apparently this isn't possible since the telegram was changed unless he save the admin username or someone can give here a contact before it becomes an airdrop alert group. But he can contact the twitter account via pm.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: holydarkness on November 28, 2020, 07:40:47 AM
The conditions say that I must definitely join the telegram channel. I was removed from there just like that, maybe by accident, I don't know (the channel ID was also changed or deleted)

Therefore, I wrote to Humpuzz to clarify this situation.

I tried to understand the situation here, which of these following questions is correct; They have a separate channel for airdrop? That is not managed by Hhampuz? The submission was made to bot? And you were removed from the airdrop channel (not bounty)?

There was an airdrop and it was removed. I asked why. I was removed from the chat. To qualify for the award, I have to join their telegram, from which I was simply removed.

That's why I wanted Humpuz to figure out this problem (maybe he somehow closely communicates with the project team)

To be sure, the answers to all of my questions are "yes"? The channel in question were a specific channel for aidrop, that's separated from bounty channel, and was not moderated by Hhampuz?

How sure are you that the airdrop channel is official and still going and they were removing you for unknown reason instead of a case where they cancelled the airdrop for whatever reason and actually deleted the channel itself and not just blocking you?


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: Rikafip on November 28, 2020, 07:56:57 AM
There was an airdrop and it was removed. I asked why. I was removed from the chat. To qualify for the award, I have to join their telegram, from which I was simply removed.

Maybe you should try asking in their ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291631.0). I see that their account @cryptoemporium  is active so maybe you get some answers there.
Where you also removed from their telegram bounty group, as that's another place where you could ask https://t.me/EmporiumBounty, in case someone else experienced the same thing.


The image he shared is true. The group discussion changed into an airdrop alert. Ive checked the link of their telegram group on Ann and bounty thread when I went there its become an airdrop telegram. Maybe they can explained it the team themselve.
Yeah that part is weird, that Emporium Finance Telegram group is now some kind of airdrop channel. Doesn't make much sense really.



Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: Little Mouse on November 28, 2020, 08:36:37 AM
Who was the author of that airdrop bot? Was the bot created by authentic person and posted in their official group by any of their admin/mod? If so, this is really stupid that they have behaved like this way. However, Hhampuz has nothing to do that as he is inly managing the campaign.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: abokhalel2 on November 28, 2020, 09:08:36 AM
Who was the author of that airdrop bot? Was the bot created by authentic person and posted in their official group by any of their admin/mod? If so, this is really stupid that they have behaved like this way. However, Hhampuz has nothing to do that as he is inly managing the campaign.

Yes, official. If you can join their chat, then there should be a mention of him.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: MandatoryOption on November 28, 2020, 11:36:46 AM
So If I understand OP correctly, the TG-Group that Hhampuz mentioned in the Emporium Bounty Thread (https://t.me/CryptoEmporiumGroup) now leads to a TG group called "AIRDROP LEGIT". That's indeed very weird. The Bounty TG group (https://t.me/EmporiumBOUNTY) still works though.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: FIFA worldcup on November 28, 2020, 03:38:12 PM
I don't know why you want me to reply here?

The bot is/was not mine.
The telegram channel is not mine.
The project is not mine.

I'm running the Bounty and I handle all Bounty related questions/issues. I have none of the answers you seek.

They even changed / deleted the id of their group, it is now impossible to find it.

How should I receive a reward if the conditions say that I should join her, but I was just removed

but I know that you are only responsible for the bounty, but it is not normal to remove from the group just like that.

Airdrop and Bounty are separate campaigns I'm afraid to tell yo, Hhampuz might not be able to give an adequate answer to concerns raised as he is only managing the Bounty campaign of the project. You can message one of the CM in the group to provide you with an answer why you were removed and deleted, you must have violated a rule.

How can I ask him a question if I do not have their contacts, the group is not available?

So you do not have any contacts of the project owners and no longer access the group, so it means that you start to blame the bounty manager ?
You need to understand that bounty manager is only responsible for the bounty and not the airdrop. Also their must be a a valid reason as why you were removed from the group. Perhaps you voilated some rule or said something wrong in the group.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: Furious 7 on November 28, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
Unfortunately you only have an airdrop problem in the thread title that has become a scam even though that is not necessarily true. oh man, an airdrop you blame maybe this is your fault too for breaking and keep asking about the airdrop not the relevant discussion that is given.

This is the statement from the Emporium Team

Quote
Emporium.Finance is LIVE 🚀

Unfortunately this group has been overran and spammed with bot accounts. We’re working to clean this mess up. All new members are temporarily banned whilst we hopefully stop the inflow.

If you’re a real account, you must reply in this group chat within the next 7 days or you WILL be removed.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: noorman0 on November 28, 2020, 07:40:51 PM
Maybe Hhampuz incorrectly inserted the emporium telegram link, this is the official group @Crypto_Emporium according to the https://emporium.finance website. I hope it gets fixed soon (if I'm correct).

It's common, some scammers create fake groups and run unofficial programs on it.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: Christabel247 on November 28, 2020, 10:28:44 PM
Hhampuz is a trusted manager and he can't compromise himself for a peanut of fractions, so believe and trust him as said possibly the team should be responsible for any error as he is only manager who is running advert for them. otherwise i suggest you to run your personal scan and audit to know where such problem is coming from.

thanks.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: FatFork on November 29, 2020, 11:14:41 AM
As far as I can see, there's only one issue here and that's with their telegram group 'https:/t.me/CryptoEmporiumGroup', now called 'AIRDROP LEGIT'. Perhaps the admin of that group has gone rogue?
I think it's best to wait for an official explanation before labeling a project as scam. I'm confident that Hhampuz will figure out just what this is all about, even though it's not strictly under his jurisdiction.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: smyslov on November 29, 2020, 12:33:23 PM


It's common, some scammers create fake groups and run unofficial programs on it.
The Crypto industry are full of that, we have a lot of imitation, clone project giveaway airdrop, we must figure out if these are all legit and really coming from the project, if this project is scam or there is a hint it si,  I'm pretty sure Hhampuz will leave or discard the project.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: $crypto$ on December 01, 2020, 01:18:16 PM
I am not so sure that Emporium Finance was said to be a scam, maybe there was a misunderstanding from the OP and I didn't really pay attention to this problem in detail but what Hhampuz managed was a legitimate project.
And if this is the team's fault, then Hhampuz will not interfere and try to think for a moment and wait for their confirmation, is there a statement?
Is this too serious for you when you are banned from the telegram group?


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: abokhalel2 on December 01, 2020, 06:06:09 PM
I am not so sure that Emporium Finance was said to be a scam, maybe there was a misunderstanding from the OP and I didn't really pay attention to this problem in detail but what Hhampuz managed was a legitimate project.
And if this is the team's fault, then Hhampuz will not interfere and try to think for a moment and wait for their confirmation, is there a statement?
Is this too serious for you when you are banned from the telegram group?

1. I have already said that the main condition of the bounty is to join their channels. I will not receive the award if I am not there. However, I continue to bounty, because I am not guilty of anything and I hope that the hhampuz figured it out.

2. I did not claim that this is a scam, but the fact that they did it is not okay, just delete your own airdrop, where people sent friends and then just ban them for questions.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: FatFork on December 01, 2020, 06:45:11 PM
I did not claim that this is a scam, ...

Maybe you should change the topic title then? It looks misleading, in its current state, and should better describe the situation.

EDIT:
Now I see that Hhampuz has locked both Emporium Finance topics because there is no communication with their representatives. There is definitely something fishy going on in there.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: holydarkness on December 02, 2020, 09:05:35 AM
I am not so sure that Emporium Finance was said to be a scam, maybe there was a misunderstanding from the OP and I didn't really pay attention to this problem in detail but what Hhampuz managed was a legitimate project.
And if this is the team's fault, then Hhampuz will not interfere and try to think for a moment and wait for their confirmation, is there a statement?
Is this too serious for you when you are banned from the telegram group?

1. I have already said that the main condition of the bounty is to join their channels. I will not receive the award if I am not there. However, I continue to bounty, because I am not guilty of anything and I hope that the hhampuz figured it out.

2. I did not claim that this is a scam, but the fact that they did it is not okay, just delete your own airdrop, where people sent friends and then just ban them for questions.

I wonder why you still asked Hhampuz to figure this situation of airdrop, as he stated and answered right after your opening post, he managed only the bounty program. The airdrop were held and managed bt by other manager (or perhaps no manager at all) and he was not on it.

I don't know why you want me to reply here?

The bot is/was not mine.
The telegram channel is not mine.
The project is not mine.

I'm running the Bounty and I handle all Bounty related questions/issues. I have none of the answers you seek.


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: bakasabo on December 02, 2020, 11:30:50 AM
Do you have any screenshot of that bot or conversation with him?
Googling "emporioum finance airdrop" I found that there was an airdrop run by @emporiumfinance_bot. But this bot just uses Emporium Finance name and promotes other airdrops/referral link.

Are you sure that the bot you have used was created by Emporium Finance ?


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: as9ardia on December 02, 2020, 12:48:58 PM
I think the problem has now been resolved and was answered.

Moreover, if we reread the new rules (on bounty thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291652.0)) the telegram link has been removed from the rules.
And I think we are also free to leave the AIRDROP LEGIT telegram channel, considering that it is not an official telegram from the emporium and there is no obligation for us to join in it.

It's time to lock this thread, isn't it?


Title: Re: Emporium Finance - Scam?
Post by: bakasabo on December 07, 2020, 02:50:41 PM
Another bad situation, where Emporium Finance is involved:

The team has stopped communication with me in regards to the bounty I'm running for them which has lead me to put that on HOLD. As of now I will also lock this thread and eventually - potentially archive it unless they get back to me within a respectable amount of time. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291631.msg55769812#msg55769812)

Hhampuz has locked both ANN and bounty topics.

Today, their telegram channel has some accusations of being scam, and normally such posts are being quickly deleted. Yesterday, they mentioned that today will be an announcement, while their price was dropped heavily.