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Title: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Juggy777 on December 02, 2020, 09:29:10 AM
I knew that this day was coming sooner then later, and now the UK government has officially selected the vaccine that it feels will save it’s citizen’s but a big question that remains yet to be unanswered is will the UK citizen‘s take it?.

Furthermore don’t get me wrong I respect their decision to save their citizens life’s, but in my personal opinion I would not inject these vaccines, and hence I wanted to know from members who’re from UK will you’ll inject this vaccine into your body?.

Sources:

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55145696

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/01/940158684/some-health-care-workers-are-wary-of-getting-covid-19-vaccines


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 02, 2020, 09:56:21 AM
No - I will resist with force if necessary. I've made it to 78, and have no health problems, and I've got here by refusing all vaccinations and pharmaceuticals.

btw - There is no evidence that modern vaccines save lives, and plenty of evidence that they destroy immunity and other body functions. It isn't about saving lives, but the primary function of vaccines is to create drug dependency.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Foxpup on December 02, 2020, 10:12:58 AM
I would not inject these vaccines, and hence I wanted to know from members who’re from UK will you’ll inject this vaccine into your body?.
I'm not from the UK, but I can say that I definitely won't be injecting this vaccine into my body. The last time I injected myself with a vaccine, I had a Hell of a time convincing my doctor to update my vaccination record, since I had no evidence other than the empty vial to prove I had actually taken it, and he wasn't happy about it at all. From now on, I'll let him inject the vaccines, and save self-injection for drugs that don't require his involvement. 8)

(Anti-vaxxers can all go to Hell, and probably will soon enough; I just wish they wouldn't take so many others with them. >:()


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 02, 2020, 10:30:30 AM

(Anti-vaxxers can all go to Hell, and probably will soon enough; I just wish they wouldn't take so many others with them. >:()

If vaccines actually worked, then it wouldn't matter if some people refused them, as the vaxed woud be immune. The very fact that they accuse anti-vaxers of killing people shows that they are afraid of the stats that show that vax free people may live longer than the vax damaged population.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: chretienm on December 02, 2020, 10:33:17 AM
Definitely not! And by the way, why did China recover without a vaccine? Why doesn't anybody talk about it?


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Foxpup on December 02, 2020, 10:38:26 AM
If vaccines actually worked, then it wouldn't matter if some people refused them, as the vaxed woud be immune.
Vaccines do not provide 100% immunity, and some people (eg those with immune disorders) cannot be vaccinated at all. Thus many people remain at risk of infection and rely on everyone else being vaccinated to prevent the spread of disease.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: CryptocurencyKing on December 02, 2020, 10:40:48 AM
Definitely not! And by the way, why did China recover without a vaccine? Why doesn't anybody talk about it?
This is a good one but, are you completely sure China has recovered completely. Maybe not the total population of infected cases but at least, to have reduced infection rate to the least minimum! If this be the case, then the necessity for a vaccine is very much questionable just as many still query the fact behind the Covid19 pandemic.

Vaccination is a very good thing and I won't advise anyone not to be vaccinated but, should it be that, the doubts on long term effect or a possibility of an after effect isn't confirmed following due procedure, then, I'm very much not taking any vaccination coupled with the fact that, vaccine immunity is just for a couple of months with regards to the Covid19 vaccines. Just not cool.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: royalfestus on December 02, 2020, 10:42:10 AM
No - I will resist with force if necessary. I've made it to 78, and have no health problems, and I've got here by refusing all vaccinations and pharmaceuticals.

btw - There is no evidence that modern vaccines save lives, and plenty of evidence that they destroy immunity and other body functions. It isn't about saving lives, but the primary function of vaccines is to create drug dependency.
Am amazed to see a man of your age in this forum with strong interest for cryptocurrency and the technology, somehow tempted to verify. If those around you can be safe and you could be without the vaccine for a year without ailment, you are likely to be exempted from the Virus and escape the pandemic. I wont like you to believe the conspiracy behind the drug. You have taken vaccines while you are young and cant resist, and their are no consequences today why the worry on modern vaccines now?


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 02, 2020, 10:46:57 AM
Natural immunity is 100% effective.

The main causes of immune disorders are vaccination, pharmaceuticals, bad diet, smoking, dehydration, recreational drugs, malnutrition, lack of sunlight, and similar social problems. Igt would be far cheaper and more productive to fix those problems, than to increase them with health damaging, inadequately tested, and less effective vaccines.

btw - I haven't been vaccinated for almost 70 years, and I have survived 4 pandemics and the annual 'flu without much more than the odd sniffle.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: montaga on December 02, 2020, 11:30:52 AM

Dr. Wodarg and Dr Yeadon request a stop of all corona vaccination studies and call for co.signing of the petition.
https://2020news.de/en/dr-wodarg-and-dr-yeadon-request-a-stop-of-all-corona-vaccination-studies-and-call-for-co-signing-the-petition/
Not in UK, but no, no fugging way


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: yazher on December 02, 2020, 11:33:34 AM
I don't want to and I'm sure here in our country, you cannot be forced to take that vaccine because we are living in a democratic country. However, if something goes wrong for the people who take it, that's their choice and there's no one to blame but those who take the risk to take the vaccine. what about in your country guys? will you have a choice or not?


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 02, 2020, 11:34:10 AM
accuse anti-vaxers of killing people
I've had this discussion with you before, regarding the Polio vaccine.
It is proven that vaccines save lives.


There is no evidence that modern vaccines save lives
The 'modern' argument implies that you're accepting that vaccines used in the past were effective... you're just against taking the one that's being discussed right now. It's not a convincing argument. Next year it might be 'Yes, the Covid-19 vaccine worked, but the Avian-Flu-20 vaccine is a scam!'.
The anti-vax argument is not modern. It has been around for a long time, and disproven over and over again.
Here's the start of an anti-vax campaign pamphlet from 1885... was the Smallpox vaccine effective?

https://i.imgur.com/UbUGovj.png
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=aeu.ark:/13960/t7wm29713&view=1up&seq=5


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: chretienm on December 02, 2020, 11:42:14 AM
The media is almost completely silent about China (a question why?), I have chinese friends who told me even in late summer that life is back to normal back then, no lockdowns or any bans on activities, nobody's talking about the virus or vaccine anymore.



Definitely not! And by the way, why did China recover without a vaccine? Why doesn't anybody talk about it?
This is a good one but, are you completely sure China has recovered completely. Maybe not the total population of infected cases but at least, to have reduced infection rate to the least minimum! If this be the case, then the necessity for a vaccine is very much questionable just as many still query the fact behind the Covid19 pandemic.

Vaccination is a very good thing and I won't advise anyone not to be vaccinated but, should it be that, the doubts on long term effect or a possibility of an after effect isn't confirmed following due procedure, then, I'm very much not taking any vaccination coupled with the fact that, vaccine immunity is just for a couple of months with regards to the Covid19 vaccines. Just not cool.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Mauser on December 02, 2020, 01:19:14 PM
I am not living in UK, but another European country, we are facing the exact same issues. Vaccines are being mass produced and it's unclear if it is mandatory to take them or not. So far I am still waiting on more information regarding the side effects of the vaccine. I am definitely not running to the clinic and ask for a vaccine but, if it's helpful and doesn't have any bad side effects I would probably take it. We need around 70-80% of the population to be vaccinated to reach herd immunity.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: KingScorpio on December 02, 2020, 02:05:39 PM
No - I will resist with force if necessary. I've made it to 78, and have no health problems, and I've got here by refusing all vaccinations and pharmaceuticals.

btw - There is no evidence that modern vaccines save lives, and plenty of evidence that they destroy immunity and other body functions. It isn't about saving lives, but the primary function of vaccines is to create drug dependency.

not just that they are also fradulent financial fraud get rich quick scemes,


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 02, 2020, 02:14:23 PM
Vaccines are being mass produced and it's unclear if it is mandatory to take them or not. So far I am still waiting on more information regarding the side effects of the vaccine.

In the UK, at risk groups will get the vaccine first. I would imagine, given the worldwide demand hugely outstripping supply, that the situation will be similar in other countries. So unless you're in an 'at risk' category (or one of certain types of health professional), the likelihood is that by the time you get your chance to take the vaccine, it will have already been given to a sizeable proportion of the older population, so any side-effects will be well-known (although these should already be documented as a part of the trials and the approval process).

By a quirk of fate, Jet Cash will be in one of the earlier groups to be offered the vaccine here in the UK.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: franky1 on December 02, 2020, 03:00:05 PM

Dr. Wodarg and Dr Yeadon request a stop of all corona vaccination studies and call for co.signing of the petition.
https://2020news.de/en/dr-wodarg-and-dr-yeadon-request-a-stop-of-all-corona-vaccination-studies-and-call-for-co-signing-the-petition/
Not in UK, but no, no fugging way

wodarg is a covid denier, as soon as i googled his name and see a vid of him denying why elderly people were going to hospital and dying in excessive numbers. saying its not covid but social neglect.. i just laughed at the stupidity of his nonsense
sorry but you dont call up the emergency services and order an ambulance with 'im lonely' sorry ambulances and hospitals dont work like that.

so yea wodards 'weight' of evidence is found in fantasy land in regards to anything he claims


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 02, 2020, 04:18:11 PM

By a quirk of fate, Jet Cash will be in one of the earlier groups to be offered the vaccine here in the UK.
If anyone tries to vaccinate me, then I will take out an action for assault. Age only puts you into an "at risk" group if you accept the Pharma crap that age is a disease, and you need to take unnatural steps to "cure"it.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Natsuu on December 02, 2020, 04:25:11 PM

(Anti-vaxxers can all go to Hell, and probably will soon enough; I just wish they wouldn't take so many others with them. >:()

If vaccines actually worked, then it wouldn't matter if some people refused them, as the vaxed woud be immune. The very fact that they accuse anti-vaxers of killing people shows that they are afraid of the stats that show that vax free people may live longer than the vax damaged population.

If I were a citizen of UK, I would like to see the full data and analysis regarding the vaccine. And since I haven't met the virus yet, I would decline the offer of being vaccinated after the release of the vaccine. I am not declining the offer in long run, but instead, I want to wait for months our even years for a fully researched vaccine before I'll be willing to take it.

The thread wows me a lot as I've seen anti-vaxxers in this thread. And it is quite funny in fact.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: target on December 02, 2020, 04:40:14 PM
It's a vaccine. People need to survive this pandemic and it's necessary for them to take this vaccine. It's not the cure to covid19 but if it's approved by their MHRA, there is no reason for them not to take this vaccine. There's not much of a choice now unless they are willing to wait for more testing and experience the declining growth of the economy.

If they really don't want to risk, China has its solution a long time ago. Since the Chinese had already been solving the case, maybe it's time to take a look at the Chinese medicine that worked for them.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 02, 2020, 04:59:26 PM
Quote from: WHO
Two full doses of the Oxford vaccine gave 62% protection, a half dose followed by a full dose was 90% and overall the trial showed 70% protection.

[/quote

Obviously the vaccine is damaging something, or two full doses would be better than 1.5 doses. Would you really want to take something that gives you 62% to 90% protection, when natural immunity gives you 100% immunity without any side effects.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 02, 2020, 06:45:16 PM
The media is almost completely silent about China (a question why?), I have chinese friends who told me even in late summer that life is back to normal back then, no lockdowns or any bans on activities, nobody's talking about the virus or vaccine anymore.
...

Wuhan back in August celebrating their victory over covid-19...

https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/indiatoday/images/bodyeditor/202008/wuhan_water_party_afp_1-x682.jpg?9JXfUFqbLToWqT_XnuhmUNDjZ0XSSjLz

https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/indiatoday/images/story/202008/wuhan_water_party_afp-647x363.jpeg?JAKLSWnJ3wsFn9PPBzOYpQe_duR5VrrB&size=770:433

...or are they celebrating their part in a successful psy-op to get the (very very willing) Western countries to shut down their economic activity.  They are going gangbusters now so I hear.  Apparently that was their pay-off by the globalists (who have their financial capital moved over to China by this time so it is in their interest that the nation thrives...for the next cycle until they suck this host dry as well.)

The footage from Wuhan seemed HIGHLY suspect to me back at the start of this thing.  Why are we not seeing anyone esle litterally 'dropping dead' in the streets like we did there?  The really telling thing was when one of their fearless CCP leaders was touring and the locked-in residents of a giant stack-n-pack apartment complex were shouting 'HOAX!' from their windows.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: hornetsnest on December 02, 2020, 07:21:16 PM

The media is almost completely silent about China (a question why?)



sssshhhhh or the peeps won't accept the new normal....to include vaccine regime,new ID regime,new global digital common pass,yada yada (hey eventually lets combine it all into a nice stamp on your hand...what? You have no arms :o..okay we can put it on your forehead)  ;D


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: franky1 on December 02, 2020, 08:10:45 PM
Wuhan back in August celebrating their victory over covid-19...

difference is wuhan actually closed its flights.
wuhan actually done proper track and trace
wuhan actually went to isolated peoples houses to test them, check on them and make sure they had what they needed so they didnt need to leave home

but UK/america done
repatriation flights
didnt do a good track and trace
didnt ensure those isolated were well looked after, so those isolating broke their isolation or ignored it completely
'coz constitution'


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Renampun on December 02, 2020, 08:39:01 PM
Of course not, I'm afraid the research isn't ready yet...
There has been no research on the side effects that are likely to form when the vaccine is in the body, even they still don't agree on the dose that should be injected. https://futurism.com/neoscope/pharmaceutical-wrong-dose-vaccine-trial ???


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 02, 2020, 08:55:10 PM
Jet Cash, I'm interested in your thoughts on this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295706.msg55733509#msg55733509) from earlier in the thread.
As far as I can see, the arguments you are making against the Covid-19 vaccine are the same as those that were made in the 19th Century about the Smallpox vaccine... but the Smallpox vaccine was a good thing, right?


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: franky1 on December 02, 2020, 09:08:07 PM
to those wondering about the question over why a vaccine at:
full dose and a booster 3 weeks later at full dose
does not result in as good effect vs
half dose and a booster 3 weks later at full dose.

..
well its like a car with 'turbo' if the turbo only kicked in when the car was at full revvs the car would just give up and not want to go faster.
but when you set a turbo to kick in at half revs you get a true boost. which then helps your car achieve even greater speeds.
..
its like eating a full meal. and then trying to squeeze in a dessert. just leaves you feeling sluggish.
but if you have a light meal and then a big dessert. you are happy and more energised.

trying to stretch a system while its already at its peak. wont make it want to stretch further.
but letting it stretch while its still has potential makes it go beyond the first limit

try to run full speed in a 200m sprint.. your body wont like it and want to stop before you get to the finish
then try to jog for 100m then sprint the last half. you will get to the finish line in better condition

hope you now understand how real life works.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: chretienm on December 04, 2020, 09:15:50 AM
The first dose turns off your immune system, the second dose injects nano-chips(nano-dust) in your body.



to those wondering about the question over why a vaccine at:
full dose and a booster 3 weeks later at full dose
does not result in as good effect vs
half dose and a booster 3 weks later at full dose.

..
well its like a car with 'turbo' if the turbo only kicked in when the car was at full revvs the car would just give up and not want to go faster.
but when you set a turbo to kick in at half revs you get a true boost. which then helps your car achieve even greater speeds.
..
its like eating a full meal. and then trying to squeeze in a dessert. just leaves you feeling sluggish.
but if you have a light meal and then a big dessert. you are happy and more energised.

trying to stretch a system while its already at its peak. wont make it want to stretch further.
but letting it stretch while its still has potential makes it go beyond the first limit

try to run full speed in a 200m sprint.. your body wont like it and want to stop before you get to the finish
then try to jog for 100m then sprint the last half. you will get to the finish line in better condition

hope you now understand how real life works.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 04, 2020, 10:54:42 AM
We don't know yet, but if the government suggests their people to use that vaccine, their people need to use it. But I am sure that the government already test the vaccine, and hopefully, it is safe to be used for the patient and all people who have asymptomatic. Maybe there is a new update from the government related to the vaccine, and we can wait for a while.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 04, 2020, 11:11:28 AM
to those wondering about the question over why a vaccine at:
full dose and a booster 3 weeks later at full dose
does not result in as good effect vs
half dose and a booster 3 weks later at full dose.

..
well its like a car with 'turbo' if the turbo only kicked in when the car was at full revvs the car would just give up and not want to go faster.
but when you set a turbo to kick in at half revs you get a true boost. which then helps your car achieve even greater speeds.
..
its like eating a full meal. and then trying to squeeze in a dessert. just leaves you feeling sluggish.
but if you have a light meal and then a big dessert. you are happy and more energised.

trying to stretch a system while its already at its peak. wont make it want to stretch further.
but letting it stretch while its still has potential makes it go beyond the first limit

try to run full speed in a 200m sprint.. your body wont like it and want to stop before you get to the finish
then try to jog for 100m then sprint the last half. you will get to the finish line in better condition

hope you now understand how real life works.

Not really.  Your examples seem to have no logical relationship to your assertions about vaccine dosing, much less any real-world techical information or data.

I'm still asking myself if you are just some AI babble-bot written to generate spam and take up space.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 04, 2020, 01:07:52 PM
I'm not from the UK, but I can say that I definitely won't be injecting this vaccine into my body. The last time I injected myself with a vaccine, I had a Hell of a time convincing my doctor to update my vaccination record, since I had no evidence other than the empty vial to prove I had actually taken it, and he wasn't happy about it at all. From now on, I'll let him inject the vaccines, and save self-injection for drugs that don't require his involvement. 8)
I'm also not from the UK, but even if the only way to deliver this vaccine was by injecting it directly in to my eyes followed by rinsing with capsaicin and lime juice, I'd still be front of the queue. I'll take that over a prolonged, agonizing, and lonely death on a ventilator any day of the week, thanks.

Natural immunity is 100% effective.
That just isn't true. If it were, shingles wouldn't exist.

btw - I haven't been vaccinated for almost 70 years, and I have survived 4 pandemics and the annual 'flu without much more than the odd sniffle.
Everyone knows a smoker who lived in to their 90s. Doesn't mean smoking is healthy.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 04, 2020, 01:58:39 PM
Natural immunity is 100% effective.
That just isn't true. If it were, shingles wouldn't exist.

One of the stupidest childhood vaccines ever is chickenpox.  Good scientists (and yes, there are some) warned that by doing this one on a widespread basis, oldsters were going to have a lot more problems with shingles (because kids act as a natural booster for the rest of the population.)

Of course they did put it on the childhood vaccination schedule, and sure enough, shingles problems in oldsters exploded.

But don't worry about the vaccine makers.  The tripled the strength of their 'chickepox vaccine' and sold it to oldsters as a 'shingles vaccination'.  It didn't work for shit, of course, and caused a lot of problems.  Not sure if it is even on the market now.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: jrrsparkles on December 04, 2020, 10:00:50 PM
If you are not yet affected by covid 19 even though you are living in a place where corona cases are high means you already got some natural immunity to such things so better avoid taking vaccines.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: pixie85 on December 04, 2020, 10:21:04 PM
I'm not anti-vaccine but I would be afraid to be a guinea pig for a big company.

The covid vaccine wasn't tested enough and we all know it's being rushed so I'd not take it if I were asked to do it.

I'm expecting some restrictions. They'll probably tell you that you can't send your children if you don't vaccinate them or you won't get normal medical care if you're not vaccinated.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 05, 2020, 02:52:56 AM
I'm not anti-vaccine but I would be afraid to be a guinea pig for a big company.

The covid vaccine wasn't tested enough and we all know it's being rushed so I'd not take it if I were asked to do it.

I'm expecting some restrictions. They'll probably tell you that you can't send your children if you don't vaccinate them or you won't get normal medical care if you're not vaccinated.


They'd shoot themselves in the foot.  'Public education' is one of the big elements in how they get people dumb enough to fall for a hoax such as 'covid-19'.  Similarly, 'normal medical care' means keeping people in a state of chronic sickness and dependence on pharma products which are overpriced because the bill is paid for by 'the collective.'  No way are they going to give up that cash cow.

In a way, being cut out from society for refusing the so-called 'vaccines' (or any other reason) would be a major blessing for those who self-selected.  It would create a break-away community of smart healthy people.  For this reason I don't expect the social engineers behind the 'great reset' and 'new normal' to allow such a disaster to occur.  They are not _that_ bad at systems analysis.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: franky1 on December 05, 2020, 03:05:32 AM
'normal medical care' means keeping people in a state of chronic sickness and dependence on pharma products which are overpriced because the bill is paid for by 'the collective.'  No way are they going to give up that cash cow.
sounds like tvbcof is confusing 'pill mill doctors with their own clinics'.. from actual doctors in hospitals that treat people

maybe tvbcof's only experience of a doctor is going to a pill mill to get a prescription of cannabis for his paranoia and yet due to smoking cannabis he has become more paranoid and is blaming the pillmill doctor.
thinking the doctor didnt 'treat him'.

the reality is tvbcof decided to avoid real doctors and chose to go to pillmils and herbalists thinking they will give him what he needs.

so here is a reality check
a pillmill doctor is not the same as a medical doctor.
pillmills are for profiting from the sales of products
medical doctors diagnose and investigate peoples illnesses/ailments and give them the treatment/therapy/medicine that actually designed to solve or help with that illness or ailment

if tvbcof's regular doctor acts like a pillmill. tvbcof should change his doctor
oh.. and stop smoking cannabis. its making you paranoid


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Salauddin1994 on December 05, 2020, 03:18:56 AM
The vaccine can protect against the spread of the virus i shouldn't get this vaccine if i'm not infected with the virus the uk has approved a coronavirus vaccine invented by a us pharmaceutical company for public use. The vaccine are going to be given to those that are most in danger within the country for a healthy person the required restrictions must be followed to stop the spread of corona it's better to take care of social distance and use face masks and to not be vaccinated.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 05, 2020, 04:57:50 AM
'normal medical care' means keeping people in a state of chronic sickness and dependence on pharma products which are overpriced because the bill is paid for by 'the collective.'  No way are they going to give up that cash cow.

sounds like tvbcof is confusing 'pill mill doctors with their own clinics'.. from actual doctors in hospitals that treat people

Seems like state hospitals are 'real' to you and privately owned clinics are not?  Anyway, it reminds me of issues where returning vets were forced to take opiods by the VA and if they refused they would lose their VA benefits.  That's 'public sector' or 'socialized' health care for you.

Since you are bringing me into it personally, note that I have been to the doctor on my own behalf only a few times in the past few decades, and even here it was for things that I could live without.  Lately it is mostly just to see first-hand the medical system in the country I currently live in (and in fact the doctor did a pretty good job of diagnosing allergic rhinitis which was a condition that I didn't self-diagnose accurately.)

A decade ago when I worked in Si valley I availed myself of 'modern' medical services for an annoying condition called rosacia which one side of my family suffers from.  The dermo gave me a prescription for the latest greatest (and I found out later $500/mo) antibiotic.  Within a month I was shitting blood.  I got off all but a mild topical antibiotic metronidozole.  Without insurance (which I pay to NOT have) they wanted $300/mo for this face cream.  I made it myself for about $0.30/mo using 'fish tank antibiotics' (which, I suspect is how a lot of doctors and pharmacists get their own medicine.)

OK.  That's me.  I've had other experience with the medical/industrial complex on behalf of others.  In the case of both of my parents, they nearly died from mis-applied medicine.  My dad for high-powered neuro drugs for 'Parkinson's' which he didn't have.  When I got him off the shit and moved to a different facility he was fine (considering he had had a stroke and was damaged from that a bit).  A little research on-line told me exactly what 'mistake' the neurologist had made.  In my mom's case recently for chemo which the tech tried to double-up her treatment and give her twice as many as the maximum the doctor prescribed.  An 'accident' of course.  My sister caught that one.

In the case of my daughter, the medico's took her into the back room after birth and dosed her with 'euvax' which we all decided not to give as the mom tested negative for hep.  This pissed me off and we've stayed away from the doctor since.  On the first day of lockdown (after being fairly well isolated for a whole month!?!), my daughter somehow caught German Measles as best I can tell.  It was textbook, but very very mild and she was done with it, rash and all, in about 3 days.  We didn't go to the doctor because of the lockdown.  Thank God!  That event tells me that my kid has a well functioning immune system and I suspect that avoiding 'the vaccine schedule' was the major factor, and it also tells me that there are some weird environmental things going on for a kid to get Rubella without coming into contract with any other kids.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Crptomagma on December 05, 2020, 06:38:30 AM
Since the outbreak of the virus the world has been fighting the virus in different ways and many country government has been working tirelessly to get the vaccine in other to keep their citizens safe from the virus. Covid vaccine has been the world greatest prayer since these pandemic that resulted to global economic meltdown and lockdown.

If the UK government claims to have discovered a vaccine to keep the citizens safe from the virus, considering the amount of citizens that have been lost during these Covid19 and now a better way to live without fear has been discovered. So I don’t see it as a big deal to subscribe to the idea of the UK government by taking the vaccine.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Jet Cash on December 05, 2020, 09:10:49 AM
Your body is the only thing that can fight the virus. You really have two methods. One is to learn about viruses and immune systems, and help your body to train its troops. You can do this naturally by reducing the viral load ( no face masks), boosting Vitamin "D" ( no staying indoors, but getting out into the sun ), expelling the virus and viral particles ( no nasal sprays or anti-diarrhoea medication), and allowing a higher temperature to kill the virus ( no fever reducing drugs). Of course there are many other useful things you can do such as staying hydrated.

The other approach is to introduce mercenaries to rampage through the pastures of your body, and kill the virus and your defensive troops. You are then left with a load of destructive mercenaries that you have to get out of your system. Of course, if you are exposed to infection later, then the mercenaries will have killed all the home troops and their trainers, and you will have to employ another gang of mercenaries to try to destroy the alien invaders. In view of the way that the viruses mutate, there is no guarantee that the invaders won't be from the same family as the mercenaries.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 05, 2020, 11:42:02 AM
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Thanks for the laugh. It is genuinely hilarious that someone who "makes his own antibiotics" which he can't even spell correctly from fish tablets for a condition he can't even spell correctly feels qualified to hand out medical advice.

One is to learn about viruses and immune systems, and help your body to train its troops.
Definitely! The best way to do that is to vaccinate.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: mindrust on December 05, 2020, 11:53:56 AM
Nope.

I won't take a covid19 vaccine no matter who is the manufacturer. (pfizer/biontech, astrazeneca, moderna, china or russia or anything else)  Let everybody else take it. If these vaccines work and enough people take it, then it is unnecessary for you to take it anyway.

I don't trust the Russian/Chinese vaxx because I don't trust Russia and China.

I don't trust the US vaxx because I don't trust the m-rna vaxx.

I don't want to be a test subject neither. I probably already gotten the bug and beaten it anyway. Had some symptoms few weeks ago and now I don't. Didn't even bother enough to get tested. (Maybe it wasn't even related I dunno)

Btw;

You might wanna check this out:

https://i.imgur.com/KshmUt8.png
https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/pfizer


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 05, 2020, 12:27:12 PM

...  Without insurance (which I pay to NOT have) they wanted $300/mo for this face cream.  I made it myself for about $0.30/mo using 'fish tank antibiotics' (which, I suspect is how a lot of doctors and pharmacists get their own medicine.)
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Thanks for the laugh. It is genuinely hilarious that someone who "makes his own antibiotics" which he can't even spell correctly from fish tablets for a condition he can't even spell correctly feels qualified to hand out medical advice.


I didn't make the antibiotics.  I got them from a 'fish supply store' which sells a bunch of different 'fish' antibiotics.  When in capsule form, they have exactly the same markings as what one gets in a pharmacy (for 1000's of times the cost) and they had a wide variety.  The tip about this thing came to me by way of a medical doctor...not a LARPing poser who trolls this forum telling the clueless retards here that he is a doctor.

In my case I got sachet form Metronidazole to mix with some generic face cream base.  I just had to compute the ratios and figure out how to dissolve the substance.

The metronidazole which the pharmacy wanted $300.00 for costs about about $0.023 per 500 mg dose to manufacture if my memory serves.  Maybe it was $0.007.  Forgot.  This information was relatively easy to find on-line 8 years ago, but it seems that information of this nature has been sucked into the memory hole.  The reason why it should not be accessible to buyers is relatively obvious.  Anyway, I doubt that most of the drugs sold for 'fish' are 'counterfiet' when the real ones are so dirt cheap.  It's not even worth policing up and selling reject material for these kinds of prices.

For about 5 years, if I stopped using the cream for a few days (either the pharmacy supplied stuff which I had saved up before quitting my last Si Valley engineering job or my own mixture) my face would show signs of rosacea again.  A year ago I ran out in my new home in SE Asia but had no breakout so I guess the condition is resolved.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 05, 2020, 12:47:11 PM
Pfizer (https://twitter.com/redpillmonster/status/1334067229311328256).  Good luck.

Amazingly enough, Pfizer looks fairly good compared to, say, Johnson&Johnson.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: mindrust on December 05, 2020, 01:01:41 PM
I also have realized that many (most) doctors* are as clueless as the average Joe during the last 12 months and they still are.

I have seen people that suffer from heavy dizziness after having and beating covid19 and all they say is "Go take a rest" because they don't know what is it they are dealing against. (Nobody really does)

What makes them experts right now to tell people "Get the damn vax"? Nothing.

*I blame the education system. There are probably far less real doctors around than we think. Most of them just do what they are told.

**I just realized doctors are like the FIAT money. The more the Gov prints them, them shittier they become.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: montaga on December 06, 2020, 04:39:32 PM

London singing
https://twitter.com/i/status/1335328223958274050


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Gyfts on December 10, 2020, 06:25:12 AM
I also have realized that many (most) doctors* are as clueless as the average Joe during the last 12 months and they still are.

I have seen people that suffer from heavy dizziness after having and beating covid19 and all they say is "Go take a rest" because they don't know what is it they are dealing against. (Nobody really does)

What makes them experts right now to tell people "Get the damn vax"? Nothing.

*I blame the education system. There are probably far less real doctors around than we think. Most of them just do what they are told.

**I just realized doctors are like the FIAT money. The more the Gov prints them, them shittier they become.

Do you expect a doctor to accurately diagnose someone that says "I feel dizzy"? What do you want them to with that? Probe them like an alien and see what's up?

Regardless of whether you trust the vaccine, it's funny how fat fucks that smoke a pack of cigarettes every day will discredit the vaccine as being dangerous like the cancer sticks they ingest every day aren't. Not saying you are, but something like 2/3 of Americans are either overweight or obese so I can't help but think people that aren't getting this vaccine are probably 50+ pounds overweight with diabetes or high blood pressure or some sort of heart condition, ect.

In that case, you might as well get the vaccine because you are already as unhealthy as it gets. What's there to lose?


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: franky1 on December 10, 2020, 06:34:34 AM
oh.. and to add to gyfts point.

there is 10,000x more minced up foreign rna in a single chicken nugget than in a vaccine.
so if your worried about vaccines. you should be petrified by a chicken nugget


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 10, 2020, 08:12:33 AM
oh.. and to add to gyfts point.

there is 10,000x more minced up foreign rna in a single chicken nugget than in a vaccine.
so if your worried about vaccines. you should be petrified by a chicken nugget

Ah, but people (and nearly every other living multicellular creature) have a gut to deal with such things, and it is a result of hundreds of millions of evolution to get it working and keep it working.

Not many people shoot up chicken nuggets, and they certainly don't an 'electric toothbrush like thingy' to break open their cell membranes to allow the foreign RNA invade their cells to set up shop.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: mindrust on December 10, 2020, 09:24:26 AM
Do you expect a doctor to accurately diagnose someone that says "I feel dizzy"? What do you want them to with that? Probe them like an alien and see what's up?

That's my point. They don't know shit about covid19 and its side or after effects. How come they are experts about the vaccine to tell people to take it?

Regardless of whether you trust the vaccine, it's funny how fat fucks that smoke a pack of cigarettes every day will discredit the vaccine as being dangerous like the cancer sticks they ingest every day aren't. Not saying you are, but something like 2/3 of Americans are either overweight or obese so I can't help but think people that aren't getting this vaccine are probably 50+ pounds overweight with diabetes or high blood pressure or some sort of heart condition, ect.

I quit smoking years ago. I know you didn't mean me. Regardless of that though, I don't see your point here. People who smoke hard can be afraid of this vaccine too. I don't smoke but I drink 2 cans of beer every week.

Do I have the right to worry? Am I healthy enough to be a skeptical person?

In that case, you might as well get the vaccine because you are already as unhealthy as it gets. What's there to lose?

You die?


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 10, 2020, 10:28:08 AM

In that case, you might as well get the vaccine because you are already as unhealthy as it gets. What's there to lose?

You die?

Rev 9.6 (KJV):
"In those days men will seek death and will not find it; they will desire to die, and death will flee from them."

Sounds a lot like the vids I've seen of the acute phases of transverse myelitis where the myelin sheath is being stripped off one's nerves due to an autoimmune reaction.  It is said to be excruciatingly painful.  But how could that happen?

Rev 9.10 (KJV):
"And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months."

Oh ya.  That.

Edit:  So, my UK brothers, maybe you just need to try to hold out until early May?



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: Gyfts on December 10, 2020, 11:23:56 AM
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To your point, you are fair in your worry - https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-britain-vaccine/uk-issues-anaphylaxis-warning-on-pfizer-vaccine-after-adverse-reactions-idUSKBN28J1DK

TDLR, basically, some UK health workers experienced an allergic reaction in response to the vaccine known as an anaphylactoid reaction, it's basically the immune system overreaction. Pfizer has announced new guidelines saying anyone with a history of anaphylactoid reactions should not take the vaccine.

Again I don't think you are unreasonable to worry about a newly developed vaccine because out of millions of people vaccinated, you will hear about people with adverse reactions. My main point is that if you are already deeply unhealthy, you're bound to die soon anyways and the chance of you dying from a vaccine are virtually nothing.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: mindrust on December 10, 2020, 11:27:42 AM
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To your point, you are fair in your worry - https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-britain-vaccine/uk-issues-anaphylaxis-warning-on-pfizer-vaccine-after-adverse-reactions-idUSKBN28J1DK

TDLR, basically, some UK health workers experienced an allergic reaction in response to the vaccine known as an anaphylactoid reaction, it's basically the immune system overreaction. Pfizer has announced new guidelines saying anyone with a history of anaphylactoid reactions should not take the vaccine.

Again I don't think you are unreasonable to worry about a newly developed vaccine because out of millions of people vaccinated, you will hear about people with adverse reactions. My main point is that if you are already deeply unhealthy, you're bound to die soon anyways and the chance of you dying from a vaccine are virtually nothing.



Give it time. They'll figure out lots of other things as well. Just don't be the sucker to fight for the front seats.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: cryptoboss2020 on December 10, 2020, 06:46:14 PM
well if you take once you have to take it twice as the natural immuninity system might get weaker.

but all the good things comes with price and to heal every illnesses are not cheaper it takes a lot resources and money and need more hospital workers....

solution: vaccine


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on December 10, 2020, 10:15:42 PM
Sounds a lot like the vids I've seen of the acute phases of transverse myelitis where the myelin sheath is being stripped off one's nerves due to an autoimmune reaction.  It is said to be excruciatingly painful.  But how could that happen?
Conveniently omit the fact that transverse myelitis is a more common complication of the viral infections the vaccines protect against, rather than of the vaccines themselves.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: tvbcof on December 11, 2020, 03:15:37 AM

Sounds a lot like the vids I've seen of the acute phases of transverse myelitis where the myelin sheath is being stripped off one's nerves due to an autoimmune reaction.  It is said to be excruciatingly painful.  But how could that happen?

Conveniently omit the fact that transverse myelitis is a more common complication of the viral infections the vaccines protect against, rather than of the vaccines themselves.

Right on queue and exactly as I predicted a few days ago, the architects of this fraud have set things up to blame 'the virus' for carnage wrought by their vaccine.  Or, more commonly, let their fake doctor LARP minions do it.


You people think you are so clever, but as a matter of fact these mechanisms are not rocket science to either think up or to understand.  Decent people are fully capable of doing so if/when they put their mind to it.  Don't get to full of yourself until we see how the chips fall because we are only at the start of this thing.



Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: franky1 on December 11, 2020, 05:39:11 AM
tvbcof sounds like he is stuck in the medieval times where people dont understand science and call it magic. then call doctors and nurses witches and wizards.
yep tvbcof wants a witch hunt because he does not understand nature, biology, science

tvbcof.. its been 500 years since the nonsense your cultish group spout out. try to update yourself
its 2020 not 1520

science proves more then your mythical campfire stories.
if you truly fear science and want to avoid science. then sell/get rid of your digital devices. because science helped make them.


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: BADecker on December 11, 2020, 06:41:42 PM
^^^ You recognize medieval times so well, that you must have been there, right? :D

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Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: hornetsnest on December 15, 2020, 09:30:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpJpp6ZXUAM6zRf?format=jpg&name=large   :)


Title: Re: UK has approved Covid Vaccine - Will you take it if you’re in UK?
Post by: BADecker on December 18, 2020, 02:22:11 PM
Nurse passes out on live TV after receiving coronavirus vaccine (video) - https://www.naturalnews.com/# (https://www.brighteon.com/1130af9a-bbf5-4a3a-bad2-c9f6ff0e5b3b).


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