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Title: How tricky is this?
Post by: Smartvirus on December 04, 2020, 06:56:24 AM
                                                                            The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: swogerino on December 04, 2020, 08:14:25 AM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

It is really bad luck as bookmakers have no real power in the outcome of a sport event at least in theory.Most of the times it is our own greediness which tells us to add this game too and another and another and this leads to the multi bet going lost,often times in that last game we placed.It is never funny I agree and it is simply bad luck nothing else.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: ralle14 on December 04, 2020, 08:24:05 AM
There's no trick behind it, I want to say it's mostly bad luck because you never know when will the team have a bad day and at the same time underdogs stepping up their performance (hitting career highs). Sometimes there are certain factors like injuries and the schedule for example if the team is playing 3 games in 5 days. The actual win rate on parlays is just smaller overall whenever we add a match it only becomes significantly harder even if we take all of the big favorites.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: BIT-BENDER on December 04, 2020, 08:26:29 AM
Its so funny that never have I experienced my games cutting at the final few matches, well its my way of betting higher risk games -higher odds- at the start of my bet and lower risk -lower odds- at the final stages, that is the games that likely to cut it would be at the beginning, this is my way, not that it can not change from what I had bet in reality just that it not happened to me, my games if it where to cut it does that at the beginning, and never at the end.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Ucy on December 04, 2020, 08:46:01 AM
Are the games/bets with outcomes that can be determined by betting sites with no provable fair feature? Well, If it's a bet I'm sure about winning and such thing happens, I would probably make sure the site didn't cheat, the game wasn't intentionally rigged against me, etc. If I'm sure about winning, I could make sure my chosen bets are completely hidden from people, to see if just a coincidence...otherwise I'm not just lucky or well prepared


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Reid on December 04, 2020, 09:50:49 AM
Are you saying "rigged" games are still happening?

Bad luck or just too greedy. That's what I think it's all about.
Wrong bet, wrong time.
It happens. I am sure about that and I experienced it too.
But, I don't blame anything or anyone for it. Every bet is always risky and there's no way you can run from that.
That's a fact.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Janation on December 04, 2020, 10:19:51 AM
There is no trick here.

People thought that they could win, that they could have these huge profit after they gamble but unless they can control themselves to stop at the right moment, they will never be able to get profits and have a higher chance of losing that profit in the earlier stages. It is not rigged, it is not a trick. If there is two reasons that would be the gambler themselves and luck.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: yazher on December 04, 2020, 10:29:00 AM
I don't really know about this but considering the best, whether it is from the start or from your last bet it's just simply your luck. No matter how you are prepared about it, when things don't go well for the one who put your bet on, you cannot blame them because they are too have a bad day. You need to face it, you cannot just put a hundred percent assurance on betting, there are lots of possibilities.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: mersal on December 04, 2020, 10:49:11 AM
Its not actually a trick,its just how human brain works. When we are in a winning streak most likely we are going to continue for sure because we feel like we are lucky today so our mind will say just keep continue and it will change only when we lose more money which is enough to be considered as huge.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Oshosondy on December 04, 2020, 11:03:19 AM
"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"
This has happened to me several countless numbers of times, I still remember like three or four years ago, I staked 7 games, over 0.5 and 1.5, all was a Brazilian league (Seria A), I won 10 matches in the first day and just remaining the last game which was Sao Paulo against one particle club, I was happen because I thought I would win the game and it was over 0.5 goals that I bet. After the whole match, the both clubs played a goaless game and I lost. It was 23 odds. It really pained me, this was the one I remembered but it occurs frequently.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: dothebeats on December 04, 2020, 11:10:54 AM
This is why I do parlays with only 4 events max. Anything more than that, to me, is wishful thinking. I used to do parlays on MLB back in 2017 during the regular season. If it’s not the Braves that ruin my parlay, it will be the Red Sox that will take the cake for fking things up. It has always been like that, only missed by one on my slips and I just decided to call it quits. No matter how good your picks are, if you’re unlucky enough for the outcome to change during games, you’ll never win anything.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: rodskee on December 04, 2020, 11:17:22 AM
Are you saying "rigged" games are still happening?
Seems like this is what he is pointing that the last game is manipulated to End Him always losing in the last  ;D.

If you are a Gambler that has no self control always Your last game is Losing because you will never Stand from table as long as there is money to bet.

Bad luck or just too greedy. That's what I think it's all about.
Wrong bet, wrong time.
And wrong attitude in gambling,OP why not try to Stand or Go home when You Hit a win?so at least the Omen will stops?


It happens. I am sure about that and I experienced it too.
But, I don't blame anything or anyone for it. Every bet is always risky and there's no way you can run from that.
That's a fact.
I Lose in the last game and that is normal since i allocate my budget in each game so as long as i have bets then i will continue,
But sometimes i am lucky enough that i stand from the table with Smile in face and Good amount of Money in my pocket.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 04, 2020, 11:22:18 AM
That is not a trick or even a cheating from the gambling site.


That is a Pure bad luck and you seems to be no luck in gambling imagine always Losing the Last game?or you just not stopping to Play until all your funds are gone?
if that is the case then Maybe try to find other place in which you will enjoy and sometimes win..

Don't wanna play Card games?like Poket or Baccarat ?maybe using some skills and strategy you may change your Path in Gambling..


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: kodtycoon on December 04, 2020, 11:34:37 AM
No trick. parlay was very difficult and even likely to be like that mate, there was one team that did not match predictions. If you ask about the trick there isn't even and there is only a luck factor will win, it is very difficult even if its calculated by percentage it is only 0.1% win the rest is lose.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 04, 2020, 11:49:33 AM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

Things like this happen, it happens to everyone it happens to me many times, there's such a thing as bad luck in gambling and the worse time to hit
is when you have accumulated a lot of wins and you want to add more than one win but with a stroke of bad luck you end up losing that, just cashout when you think you've won don't promise yourself or make another try.  


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Kelvinid on December 04, 2020, 11:55:09 AM
Really disappointing but that we know already how we possibly ends in gambling and possibly more on losses than winning.
Multiple bets, single bet, both are just like the same. We need luck just to win, skills and knowledge as just an advantage that could m increase your chances but not it give assurance in this field.

Gambling is not a tricky thing, we have given choices and that to gamble is what we knowing that we can also lose our hard work earned money.
But why we have to choose this is that because we wanted to do so and that also because we enjoy it. Don't be greedy in this way because that will be the reason you will fail.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: arwin100 on December 04, 2020, 12:05:16 PM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

I don't see any trick about these but the reality on what's happening there is just pure luck maybe you are unlucky when the game is on and you lose, For these maybe just bet on what you think you are familiar and don't look for chance. Checking the team stats and injuries will really help to increase the chances of winnings.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 04, 2020, 12:08:28 PM
I will echo the sentiments, just extreme case of bad luck here. Been there as well and i thought that I can turn around things with just one win, however, it didn't really come. Although there are instance that let's say the last spin on the slot will give you a big pay or big bonus. But that's rare occurrence, meaning I really run out luck.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Smartvirus on December 04, 2020, 12:52:36 PM
My problem with it is when it happens to be just that last game in the series. Is as though, it's been enchanted to scrim pick me to your subconsciousness and you just begin to see possibilities bdo you go for a trier and before you know it, your nervous and shaky all through the 90minute, praying for that one shot or header or own goal that would just save the day and the referee just blows his  final whistle but it never happens.
Again, could it be possible for Bookmarkers to have an influence on the game of the day, like the last Chelsea 0-0 Tottenham draw in the EPL following highest picked games?


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: GrinZ on December 04, 2020, 01:04:35 PM
There are many factors that affect failure; For example, sudden staff changes, intense match schedule of the team, and injuries in the match. If you want to prevent this failure, I think you can watch the match and make the most accurate prediction.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: plvbob0070 on December 04, 2020, 03:23:54 PM
It's so much disappointing when you are in this situation because you already have that hope but then, your bad luck strikes. Several situations may happen to the players or in the sport itself that's why even if it's already the last game, it can't be always on our side. It's indeed upsetting but for me, I just always try to move on after some time and think that I'm always not that lucky. If it's not meant to be, then I will just try my luck next time.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: imstillthebest on December 04, 2020, 03:34:11 PM
The near success syndrome is only in the mind of the gamblers. If we know how gambling works and we are realistic, we will understand that the word, near win or almost a win, does not exist, there are only two outcome, a win or a lose, that says we never know the outcome, that's why we guess or predict it.
many times i confess to my partner that i almost cash out and win in my gambling session but she replied that its not my time to win .

what she replied to me is simillar to what you have posted on here .

 its hard to accept at first and its hard to move on if you will think of that " close win" but i am learning now and im starting to remove that mindset .  if its your time to win , you will win including in the impossible scenario


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: CODE200 on December 04, 2020, 05:39:04 PM
The near success syndrome is only in the mind of the gamblers. If we know how gambling works and we are realistic, we will understand that the word, near win or almost a win, does not exist, there are only two outcome, a win or a lose, that says we never know the outcome, that's why we guess or predict it.
I agree. The tendency is that gamblers would consider the slightest chance of winning, to bet further or to play more because there's that idea that "I almost made it, so probably this time I would". It is a matter of trying to force things or to push luck to be in your favor but that's not how gambling works. It is either you are lucky enough or you have to make decisions that will affect the outcome. The result should then be close-ended. No linkages should be a basis to how will you play on the next "round".


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: kryptqnick on December 04, 2020, 05:45:34 PM
I think I had this situation before, when I had a multi with two wins and then the third one was a loss and I lost the whole bet, of course. However, I don't think it's usually the last games that are lost in multis, so it's actually neither bad luck, not tricks. Obviously, it can't be a trick if you yourself choose the games for your multi bet. But the assumption is probably formed due to confirmation bias (you notice more when it's the last one and remember these cases more, even though there's no statistical significance).


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Silberman on December 04, 2020, 05:49:49 PM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.
I know what you mean but it is just bad luck, bookmakers do not really have any kind of control over the games, they give themselves an edge in every single game in order to make money which means that you are playing at a disadvantage against them and when you make several bets in a row like that then the chances that they become winners and that you become a loser are huge, you will just have to accept that fact even if you don't like it, and if you are tired of losing then you should leave behind those kind of bets because the probability that you make one of them is very low.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: gadado on December 04, 2020, 05:53:44 PM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

I am interested to learn and read more about this. Could you perhaps give an example based on your text? I once read about a Slicers bet on Betfair a long time ago, but it has remained a mystery to this day.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: johhnyUA on December 04, 2020, 07:40:15 PM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

And this happens not only in gambling. For example you take part in some contest and you think that your chances is pretty high, but in the end it turn into you lose. And you have the same syndrome (i know it pretty well).

The only solution to not get such syndrome is not to put high expectations.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Saint-loup on December 04, 2020, 08:01:04 PM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.
Generally, you can't really choose what combined bets you'll take, you just take the bets available at this moment on the sportbook. Then it induces you don't bet on events you really master, and the chances of failing increase.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: hahay on December 04, 2020, 08:11:32 PM
I personally feel like it's just about bad luck but apart from that, when there is a last game or bet that makes us lose maybe it could also be about greed or even the overconfidence factor. There is nothing definite to identify this incident because I also experience it a lot, but it is not always about low or high odds and I just think it is about bad luck because gambling is a game of luck and not a game of greed.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Lanatsa on December 04, 2020, 08:18:23 PM

It is really bad luck as bookmakers have no real power in the outcome of a sport event at least in theory.Most of the times it is our own greediness which tells us to add this game too and another and another and this leads to the multi bet going lost,often times in that last game we placed.It is never funny I agree and it is simply bad luck nothing else.
Correct!

Bookmakers are just handlers of bets not totally a thing that can really affect a certain games outcome.I don't know why some people do think that
they do can really affect the result which its not that relevant to think off.Its just pure bad luck and just because of greed and that kind of impulsive
reaction which makes the situation even more worst.

It doesn't matter if its single or multiple as long you do know those certain games and you do know on what you are doing.

Don't make any blames to others just because you have lost.Just move on and bet another one which you do seem fit into your criteria.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Inkdatar on December 04, 2020, 10:52:24 PM
This will resorting to success in a bet if you are good at predicting the game to win. If I remember, when I'm in a game the guts of feeling that you are almost near to success or to win the game but the outcomes turns bad that I was losing the game. Every placing a bet when having a tricks does not turns out well that luck is not in our way to win. So when accumulating a game it is good to have it small bet to minimize risks.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: molsewid on December 04, 2020, 10:54:04 PM
I personally feel like it's just about bad luck but apart from that, when there is a last game or bet that makes us lose maybe it could also be about greed or even the overconfidence factor. There is nothing definite to identify this incident because I also experience it a lot, but it is not always about low or high odds and I just think it is about bad luck because gambling is a game of luck and not a game of greed.
That's what I am thinking as well, maybe our greediness is the reason for this thing, most of the time we feel this thing when we win so many times, we urge ourselves to bet more, to play more so that we can earn more and more money, by this thing we sometimes makes all  in bet without thinking that we might lose all of it, then when the time that we expect to win but we lost all of it? that's the time we will be frustrated and depressed, it may lead us to addiction or to desperation.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: johhnyUA on December 04, 2020, 10:57:04 PM
So when accumulating a game it is good to have it small bet to minimize risks.

I doubt that this will decrease butthurt from loosing a final bet even if there is small amount. People often looking not to amount of the bet , rather to ratio between bet and potential amount of win.

The way to decrease such syndrome it's just to be calm and patient.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Quidat on December 04, 2020, 11:00:08 PM
So when accumulating a game it is good to have it small bet to minimize risks.

I doubt that this will decrease butthurt from loosing a final bet even if there is small amount. People often looking not to amount of the bet , rather to ratio between bet and potential amount of win.

The way to decrease such syndrome it's just to be calm and patient.
Not all would really be having that kind of characteristic on being calm and patient where majority is on the expecting or advanced thinking side where they are already preparing on getting their
wins even if the said game isnt over or done yet.I do feel out that kind of near success emotion but i dont believe that this is a syndrome.This is just a normal reaction since we are just human
being and if our mind do tell that we are somewhat sure into those bets that we had made then we would really be having that kind of reaction or perception into things that
we might do after that.We are imagining on getting our wins even though it isnt over yet and this is where frustrations sets in when reality slaps you in the face.  :D


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: TimeTeller on December 04, 2020, 11:01:57 PM

It is really bad luck as bookmakers have no real power in the outcome of a sport event at least in theory.Most of the times it is our own greediness which tells us to add this game too and another and another and this leads to the multi bet going lost,often times in that last game we placed.It is never funny I agree and it is simply bad luck nothing else.
Correct!

Bookmakers are just handlers of bets not totally a thing that can really affect a certain games outcome.I don't know why some people do think that
they do can really affect the result which its not that relevant to think off.Its just pure bad luck and just because of greed and that kind of impulsive
reaction which makes the situation even more worst.

It doesn't matter if its single or multiple as long you do know those certain games and you do know on what you are doing.

Don't make any blames to others just because you have lost.Just move on and bet another one which you do seem fit into your criteria.

Because if you will linger on your losses, you will go crazy thinking about what should have done or should haven't.
So better move on fast rather than think about your bet over and over again.
Just admit that this is how gambling really is. And yes, bookies don't have anything to do with the results.
If you can't handle the stress, just look for other games that will calm your senses.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: FlightyPouch on December 04, 2020, 11:07:12 PM
For me it is not a trick, it is a result of uncontrollable urge of the gamblers to win huge money. If they can control themselves they would be able to stop slipping that loss unto their hands. They would be able to take home that profit, it is not the bookmakers, it is not the luck that you have since if you would just control yourself there is no problem.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: crzy on December 04, 2020, 11:10:10 PM
There's no trick behind it, I want to say it's mostly bad luck because you never know when will the team have a bad day and at the same underdogs stepping up their performance (hitting career highs). Sometimes there are certain factors like injuries and the schedule for example if the team is playing 3 games in 5 days. The actual win rate on parlays is just smaller overall whenever we add a match it only becomes significantly harder even if we take all of the big favorites.
Not their lucky day for sure, almost winning the game and yet they failed to do so well this is gambling and that’s a sports where everything can happen so don’t over confident. If you think this one is a trick then you don’t understand much the gambling. Know when to take profit on gambling and in sports, just keep consistent.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Baofeng on December 04, 2020, 11:18:56 PM
Probably this is just what we call "Gamblers Fallacy". So as others have said, there is no trick, it's just the mind tricking us into believing that we can still win and we discounted the fact that everything is base on luck. That it can be influence be by past events, so we believed that we really know what would be the next outcome, so it's an error on our part to rely on this fallacy.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: TedMosby on December 04, 2020, 11:25:51 PM
it happens to me almost every time I picked multi bets. It's bad for mental health.
because it's like it pushes you to have high expectations about it, and then you just fall down.
it will ruin your day, more stake more time to recover from your stress time because of this kind of situation.  ;D

check on this thread for your reference:
THE MOST PAINFUL DAY IN MY BETTING CAREER by laycon
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276432.40


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 04, 2020, 11:56:35 PM
My problem with it is when it happens to be just that last game in the series. Is as though, it's been enchanted to scrim pick me to your subconsciousness and you just begin to see possibilities bdo you go for a trier and before you know it, your nervous and shaky all through the 90minute, praying for that one shot or header or own goal that would just save the day and the referee just blows his  final whistle but it never happens.
Again, could it be possible for Bookmarkers to have an influence on the game of the day, like the last Chelsea 0-0 Tottenham draw in the EPL following highest picked games?
Seems like you are a very intense person mate,That's why your reaction is really above the others,I sometimes react exaggerating Specially if the Match is too close but not as far as you do,Are you betting for the team or player that you really love?or this is just pure gambling?
Because if this is about your Super Favorite Player/team maybe i can say it was normal but if not?and your Bet is not even a million bucks for this kind of reaction  ;D ..
Maybe try not to engage in intense Games instead try to Play in calm gambling like Cards maybe.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: maydna on December 05, 2020, 01:43:11 AM
Not their lucky day for sure, almost winning the game and yet they failed to do so well this is gambling and that’s a sports where everything can happen so don’t over confident. If you think this one is a trick then you don’t understand much the gambling. Know when to take profit on gambling and in sports, just keep consistent.

Almost winning, but suddenly, everything changed, and we lose what we win before because of just one button or one action. Perhaps, we blame that button that can't help us in the last rounds, but that is what happens in the gambling games. We can't expect to win the most because gambling can change the direction, and we can lose in just one single button.

Overconfidence can be one of many things that we have when we are playing gambling. That makes us forget that we don't have to chase the next win, but we must stop gambling, no matter what it is. Besides overconfidence, greedy can be the next thing that makes us chase the winning.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: peter0425 on December 05, 2020, 02:13:43 AM
Looks like coincidence mate though for how many times that you experience that?or Maybe it is a Mindset since for couple of times the Ending is like this that's why you have already a conclusion that here we go again.

But it's really frustrating that when we are almost completing the Game then the ending we are the loser.

But surely we all can feel you because we have all times like that though maybe not same chances of time.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: robelneo on December 05, 2020, 02:19:20 AM
                                                                           The near success syndrome



"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

I can relate to that, I heard and read countless stories like that including mine, similar to my experience is horse racing on a winner take all format I have bad experiences of me losing the 7th races so many times when I thought the 7th race is the easiest race to predict, but this is something that you have to take as it is, it's a bitter pill to swallow, but in gambling, you will have to swallow a lot of this.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: AicecreaME on December 05, 2020, 02:26:49 AM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

This is the main reason why I stopped playing gambling. Whenever I win, the next roll would be a loss, and whenever I lost in a row, the next roll would be a win. It's like the gambling house knows what I'm thinking, and they know how to set a trap for us to be more addicted on their games. I don't know if I'm paranoid or not but it's like the whole game is manually monitored and whenever you bet big, for sure you're going to lose most of the time and it's going to be the other way around when you bet small amount.

This is very infuriating every time I played gambling way back then. But the thing I've learned is that whatever amount of you've lost, complaining and competing against the house is not worthy at all.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Peanutswar on December 05, 2020, 02:41:10 AM
I think because of too much greed. I recently experience this kind of problem too after I already won a large amount of profit in just a 10$ deposit I crave more income so I said to my self why not just having the last game or a short game and the problem comes out I want to make more profit or I want to get my money back because on that single game, still, I give my self-doubt and thought its really worth it to make another game just to payback my loss? I think it's not because at the end of the day I still already gained profit.

think twice before taking an action if you already win go ahead and pull it out, if you lose a lot of time, take a break and think twice if you want still to push.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 05, 2020, 03:06:34 AM
This has nothing to do with the bookmakers. It is not about luck either. It just so happened that the team which is expected to win and which you placed a bet on didn't make it.

I normally collect those matches with very low odds and bet on them using parlay also. But losing often happens. It is very disappointing especially because those odds are too low that they seem to tell me they are sure wins. Well, that's why it is gambling.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Fredomago on December 05, 2020, 03:44:50 AM
This has nothing to do with the bookmakers. It is not about luck either. It just so happened that the team which is expected to win and which you placed a bet on didn't make it.

I normally collect those matches with very low odds and bet on them using parlay also. But losing often happens. It is very disappointing especially because those odds are too low that they seem to tell me they are sure wins. Well, that's why it is gambling.

The mentalities of parlaying those small odds leads you to lose your money, thinking that underdog is just a free money. Most of the time shit happened and instead of getting good compensation, with just one lose everything will suffer. Not new to this kind of betting big risk with small chance of losing but it turned against you.

Being precise with games that you fully understand, taking advantage with much lesser chance of being busted as you are putting your money where understanding is better.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: btc78 on December 05, 2020, 03:48:59 AM
Don't Lose hope Mate That's gambling,No one can predict the outcome of each game but at least we enjoy each moment of our bets.
How many times that this Happens to yo?Meaning the majority of your bets turns out like this?
And don't Make gambling activity too serious because this is supposedly Happy moment because if you are not Happy in Playing then Stop it and look for another place in which your days and spending brings happiness and not frustration and eagerness.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: MCobian on December 05, 2020, 05:01:38 AM
Don't think too negatively, what you experience is normal and I have experienced it too. Do not think too much and
end up stressing you out, what happens to you is just bad luck. There are no tricks, nor rigged. My advice is just move on,
which anyone can experience it. Because basically gambling is based on luck, that's what you need to remember.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: ralle14 on December 05, 2020, 05:02:26 AM
It is not about luck either. It just so happened that the team which is expected to win and which you placed a bet on didn't make it.
Depends on the match, it could be related to luck because when you take a favorite that's leading in every stats (offense/defense) then lose you can't just say that "it happened" knowing that the match is out of your control.

And don't Make gambling activity too serious because this is supposedly Happy moment because if you are not Happy in Playing then Stop it and look for another place in which your days and spending brings happiness and not frustration and eagerness.
That's the thing with accumulators, from the start you place a small amount that you can afford but once you start winning most of the matches it becomes serious and if it's your first time gambling you really can't avoid becoming emotional when you're that close to winning.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Janation on December 05, 2020, 06:19:42 AM
Don't think too negatively, what you experience is normal and I have experienced it too. Do not think too much and
end up stressing you out, what happens to you is just bad luck. There are no tricks, nor rigged. My advice is just move on,
which anyone can experience it. Because basically gambling is based on luck, that's what you need to remember.


We all did.

We lost and we win, there is no wage or bet with a 100% possibility of winning. We only have the higher odds and the lower odds, the higher risks you take the higher profit you could bet from that wage. Each team or players could influence the game that could turn that odds around, the same as those players, we only have 2 results to wait.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Lordhermes on December 05, 2020, 07:25:37 AM
Don't think too negatively, what you experience is normal and I have experienced it too. Do not think too much and
end up stressing you out, what happens to you is just bad luck. There are no tricks, nor rigged. My advice is just move on,
which anyone can experience it. Because basically gambling is based on luck, that's what you need to remember.

Somebody once had told me bookmakers do plan to not allow someone wins a game, for instance, if a bettors got 10 out of 11 running accumulated bets, said the bookmakers will find a way to reach the players of that club to play in a different ways in order to spoil out the game plan. That's someone believe, its not tricks, it'd just happened, and you have to move on.
A particular bettor has his own lucky special days to win,


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: bitbollo on December 05, 2020, 07:31:51 AM
the same strategy is also used with scratch cards. if the "super number" jackpot, it is a "90", for sure you will find in your card to scratch a 89 and 91. because you have meanwhile the sensation to getting very close to the big target.
game designers and generally in gambling this is a well known factor and apply with so many games... and since each time you feeling like "close win" you will feel comfortable and playing more. This is why I play always single match ;) and very very rarely a multiple bets.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Wexnident on December 05, 2020, 07:46:21 AM
No trick, stop blaming the bookmakers in scenarios like this tbh, to put it simply, you're just making an excuse when losing due to luck doesn't even need an excuse, it is simply what it is. Near success syndrome isn't only experienced in gambling, it's quite literally everywhere. No need to push yourself to the bottom of a self-deprecating pit blaming a third party for a depressing bet fails, and instead, just look up and move on. What if scenarios are just that, what ifs. Honestly, the first step is hard ngl, but past that? You should be quite capable by then.

the same strategy is also used with scratch cards. if the "super number" jackpot, it is a "90", for sure you will find in your card to scratch a 89 and 91. because you have meanwhile the sensation to getting very close to the big target.
game designers and generally in gambling this is a well known factor and apply with so many games... and since each time you feeling like "close win" you will feel comfortable and playing more. This is why I play always single match ;) and very very rarely a multiple bets.
Don't scratch card makers intentionally do that, to create the mindset of what op has said, near success? Cause really, there isn't much difference between a card where the jackpot is 90, and what you get is 89 on one, and 1 on the other. It's just a play of the makers, and they aren't honestly doing anything wrong, well, they're attacking gullible players maybe, but hey, afaik everything is fair in business. It's a dog eat dog world out there.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: magneto on December 05, 2020, 09:58:30 AM
                                                                            The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

Nope. It's literally designed that way.

If you think of each betslip as a negative EV event (which is true for the average bettor since the sportsbook obviously has to make money on spreads), accumulating them using a multi/parlay/accumulator bet just magnifies your inherent disadvantages.

Whether the last bet that you were hoping to win loses or not is entirely luck. No point being superstitious about this stuff.

Remember that human brains take tough losses and represent them as more frequent than they actually occur. So if you are especially distraught after you lose the last leg of your multi, then you are likely to think that it happens far more often than it actually does.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: santiPOGI on December 05, 2020, 11:43:32 AM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

I know what you mean and how you feel, this feelings mostly encountered by the gamblers including me also.
Probably, this might be the real cycle of the gambling business. Where the players win most of the time only in the beginning then
in the end all of your winning whether you get this in betting, or what will end into loss of your coins.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: mirakal on December 05, 2020, 11:56:12 AM
Well, honestly, I don't think of preparing a cash out if I'm still playing.

I suggest one has to learn to be specific with their game plan, cash out when necessary and don't wait for another win before you cash out.

The thing is, we want to be profitable, and it's not wise to not think of enjoying your profit because gambling without direction will only left you unprofitable in the end, go with your plan, don't be greedy, just master yourself in doing the right thing and you'll eventually be consistent in the long run.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: aioc on December 05, 2020, 12:08:12 PM
                                                                           The near success syndrome



It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

There are bad lucks in gambling and gamblers should be aware of this, there are good luck and there are bad lucks and they come on gamblers it's inevitable, you can get one of them or both, bookmakers has nothing to do with it, it's just the choice that we are making, if aware of it and you can live on it, them you can make a good decision how to proceed, awareness is very important more so in gambling.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 05, 2020, 12:20:22 PM
It is not about luck either. It just so happened that the team which is expected to win and which you placed a bet on didn't make it.
Depends on the match, it could be related to luck because when you take a favorite that's leading in every stats (offense/defense) then lose you can't just say that "it happened" knowing that the match is out of your control.

In sports, I believe luck plays a very minor role. There are indeed lucky shots but it very seldom happens unless of course we are talking of sports like boxing or MMA where a haymaker punch could end everything once and for all, but overall it is the play that makes teams or athletes win. So your bet is basically just a victim of a game. It is not really luck on your bet or on yourself that made you win.

This has nothing to do with the bookmakers. It is not about luck either. It just so happened that the team which is expected to win and which you placed a bet on didn't make it.

I normally collect those matches with very low odds and bet on them using parlay also. But losing often happens. It is very disappointing especially because those odds are too low that they seem to tell me they are sure wins. Well, that's why it is gambling.

The mentalities of parlaying those small odds leads you to lose your money, thinking that underdog is just a free money. Most of the time shit happened and instead of getting good compensation, with just one lose everything will suffer. Not new to this kind of betting big risk with small chance of losing but it turned against you.

That's precisely right. There's really no free money in gambling even in very low odds.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: FontSeli on December 05, 2020, 12:41:08 PM
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It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

The trick in any game is that the player was able to stop in time and stop playing. This is the most important thing. Regardless of whether you wining or losing, you must learn to stop playing in time and go home or close the casino window in the browser. This will help you save your money and most importantly - your nerves.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Yamifoud on December 05, 2020, 01:52:32 PM
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It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

The trick in any game is that the player was able to stop in time and stop playing. This is the most important thing. Regardless of whether you wining or losing, you must learn to stop playing in time and go home or close the casino window in the browser. This will help you save your money and most importantly - your nerves.
That only if you can control yourself. Because what some gamblers did is that they keep on gambling even they are losing, they never stop but instead of chasing those losses. I believe this is wrong but that was common and I have that kind of mindset before but somehow I realize that it never works, instead, it gives me more losses than to win.

Could be hard to accept the reality but that it was. And the funny thing is that we always believe and think that we can have luck sometimes and win.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: pilosopotasyo on December 05, 2020, 01:54:57 PM
There's a saying by wanting more you lose a lot, it's hard to predict when you are going to lose gambling is base on luck, you never know what's going to happen in the next roll or bet, you just have to accept it as it is, no use crying over spilled milk, just don't be greedy and learn when to give up.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: FontSeli on December 05, 2020, 02:35:07 PM
The trick in any game is that the player was able to stop in time and stop playing. This is the most important thing. Regardless of whether you wining or losing, you must learn to stop playing in time and go home or close the casino window in the browser. This will help you save your money and most importantly - your nerves.
That only if you can control yourself. Because what some gamblers did is that they keep on gambling even they are losing, they never stop but instead of chasing those losses. I believe this is wrong but that was common and I have that kind of mindset before but somehow I realize that it never works, instead, it gives me more losses than to win.

Could be hard to accept the reality but that it was. And the funny thing is that we always believe and think that we can have luck sometimes and win.


If a person can not control himself, it is contraindicated for him to play gambling at all. I have no answer options how to do it. Most likely, every person should realize it as well as you.
I have long understood for myself that gambling is first of all an entertainment and it is impossible to earn money on it constantly. That's why a player shouldn't try to win back if he lost, he is unlikely to succeed, most likely he will lose even more. If a player has won good money, it is also better to stop.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: jrrsparkles on December 05, 2020, 02:45:15 PM
There's a saying by wanting more you lose a lot, it's hard to predict when you are going to lose gambling is base on luck, you never know what's going to happen in the next roll or bet, you just have to accept it as it is, no use crying over spilled milk, just don't be greedy and learn when to give up.
Chasing losses is going to increase the chance of losing but when we are in a win situation it may get hardly noticeable so we keep increase the bet amount until we realize that we lost more money than we won actually that os why money management is an important factor for a gambler.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: shoreno on December 05, 2020, 04:07:26 PM
There's a saying by wanting more you lose a lot, it's hard to predict when you are going to lose gambling is base on luck, you never know what's going to happen in the next roll or bet, you just have to accept it as it is, no use crying over spilled milk, just don't be greedy and learn when to give up.

i think in gambling it is more easier to predict a loose than on winning . it happens to me all the time that im betting on a high chance and predicted that i can win this easily but sorry nope .

that happens to op too because he think he can win the few bets but his expectations failed him . the easy fix for this is dont expect too high but dont also expect to loose because thats bad and also not to want more but we should be contented and stop before the gambling site revenge on us and take all our previous winnings .


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: serjent05 on December 05, 2020, 09:35:33 PM
I believe it is the player being so complacent since he is continuously winning, he thought that the next run would be a win too.  Coupled with greed since he wanted to win more and not satisfied with the current winnings and the last strike of bad luck.

It is not really a trick nor the game is rigged.  It is because a player was never too contented until he started losing.  Happens to me several times and yet I didn't learn my lesson.  :D


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Oilacris on December 05, 2020, 09:43:00 PM
Well, honestly, I don't think of preparing a cash out if I'm still playing.

I suggest one has to learn to be specific with their game plan, cash out when necessary and don't wait for another win before you cash out.

The thing is, we want to be profitable, and it's not wise to not think of enjoying your profit because gambling without direction will only left you unprofitable in the end, go with your plan, don't be greedy, just master yourself in doing the right thing and you'll eventually be consistent in the long run.

You cant say that people should really have that kind of plan because there are people or individuals doesnt really care if they do lost up the entire amount as long they do able to enjoy out the game.

It might sound dumb because people do gamble for the sake of profits but there are people who do gamble for fun.We cant generalize them though since majority is on the profit-aiming kind of mindset.

Just like on what you had suggested where there should be some a point on where you do set out some limitations and since you do saw that you are already in gains or profits then
its always be a worthy thing to be done to completely stop and call it a day.There are some people cant really just avoid on expecting on advance on a certain game
which they do think that it is already a guaranteed win to think that as long the timer doesnt stop then it isnt over yet.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: FontSeli on December 05, 2020, 10:31:39 PM
Well, honestly, I don't think of preparing a cash out if I'm still playing.

I suggest one has to learn to be specific with their game plan, cash out when necessary and don't wait for another win before you cash out.

The thing is, we want to be profitable, and it's not wise to not think of enjoying your profit because gambling without direction will only left you unprofitable in the end, go with your plan, don't be greedy, just master yourself in doing the right thing and you'll eventually be consistent in the long run.

You cant say that people should really have that kind of plan because there are people or individuals doesnt really care if they do lost up the entire amount as long they do able to enjoy out the game.
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There are hardly any people who don't care if they lost a lot of money or not while they can enjoy the game.
I sometimes play in ordinary casinos for fun, I have a certain amount of money that I can afford to lose. However I always regret losing, especially if it happens very quickly.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Hamphser on December 05, 2020, 10:59:23 PM
Well, honestly, I don't think of preparing a cash out if I'm still playing.

I suggest one has to learn to be specific with their game plan, cash out when necessary and don't wait for another win before you cash out.

The thing is, we want to be profitable, and it's not wise to not think of enjoying your profit because gambling without direction will only left you unprofitable in the end, go with your plan, don't be greedy, just master yourself in doing the right thing and you'll eventually be consistent in the long run.

You cant say that people should really have that kind of plan because there are people or individuals doesnt really care if they do lost up the entire amount as long they do able to enjoy out the game.
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There are hardly any people who don't care if they lost a lot of money or not while they can enjoy the game.
I sometimes play in ordinary casinos for fun, I have a certain amount of money that I can afford to lose. However I always regret losing, especially if it happens very quickly.
Normal!

We are just humans and we do really make those kind of reactions even someone do say that they do play for the sake of entertainment.
Our body would really be reacting and emotion will really be there because we are just humans and impossible for us to neglect or wont mind it much
because we dont like to lose money.So those kind of reactions isnt really that something new.Some people do just really expect that much
or being too confident that they can win anytime.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: abel1337 on December 05, 2020, 11:56:14 PM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.
Well, Probably it's just bad luck since you are on a betting casino, It will hardly be rugged I think so. Sometimes if your gut telling you that you need to stop even if you are nearing your target cashout, you should leave. I did experience it many times and it was horrible inside that I lose even my capital when I am very near to my target profit. I learned that time that it is ok to follow guts and be happy that you gained some profit over the session. The trick is to be contented with the gained profits and leave the casino with a happy heart  ;D


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: BALIK on December 05, 2020, 11:57:10 PM
Are you saying "rigged" games are still happening?

Bad luck or just too greedy. That's what I think it's all about.
Wrong bet, wrong time.


I think the chance of you losing because of rigged games is almost close to zero. That's assuming you play on reputable casinos. What I do agree on is that the bet is not placed at the right time. So it is all about the right bet at the right time. This is something you have no control over, but the more you play the more chance you get to win - just like any gambling game/strategy really.

You always compete against the odds.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Noctis Connor on December 06, 2020, 12:44:39 AM
There's a saying by wanting more you lose a lot, it's hard to predict when you are going to lose gambling is base on luck, you never know what's going to happen in the next roll or bet, you just have to accept it as it is, no use crying over spilled milk, just don't be greedy and learn when to give up.
Chasing losses is going to increase the chance of losing but when we are in a win situation it may get hardly noticeable so we keep increase the bet amount until we realize that we lost more money than we won actually that os why money management is an important factor for a gambler.
It is true the more he chases it the more chances of losing more money, as he say there's a chance that he wants to withdraw his profit but somehow he continued to play the game and then realize it was his bad luck and then loses his money and trying hardly to make it back and somehow loses more, this is a big sign to stop playing and try your luck better next time, This is how gambler lost they can't even manage their bankroll , if i were him he should know how to control his self and put in mind that gambling doesn't give you anything but lose unless you enjoy and it bring you entertainment.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: maydna on December 06, 2020, 01:39:03 AM
There are hardly any people who don't care if they lost a lot of money or not while they can enjoy the game.
I sometimes play in ordinary casinos for fun, I have a certain amount of money that I can afford to lose. However I always regret losing, especially if it happens very quickly.

It is true. When people can enjoy the game, they will play longer than usual and longer than other people. They will not think about how they lose more money than before because they only want to enjoy and have fun inside the games.

I don't play on the physical casino, but I play on the online casino because I can visit many gambling sites from my home. Besides that, I am not feel good if I am in a crowd, and I think it is too noisy.

Regretting losing is normal, and that is happening to many people who lose their money in gambling. But we can not always get our money back because we need luck to get it back.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Shasha80 on December 06, 2020, 02:13:48 AM
Don't make gambling look complicated with what you are experiencing, you have to accept the fact that what happened
to you was pure misfortune. Don't blame anyone, because what you experience can happen to everyone. The most important
thing is how we deal with it, actually, gambling is very simple, there are only wins and losses. So we have to accept whatever
the outcome is, my advice is to take a break from the world of gambling. After your mind is calm, you can definitely think
clearly with what happened to you.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: abhiseshakana on December 06, 2020, 02:44:11 AM
The over complicated mechanics in betting is sometimes what lead to a loss such 1-0 and 0-0 type of bets, and most gambling platforms has this. So in the end the house still wins, that's why i only play simple when your favourite team wins you get the cash but if not you'll lose.
Consider changing to other platforms if you want profits. 

Yeah, you were right .. It's undeniable that the houses have a greater chance of winning our money than our chances to win their money. Because of the odds made by them, it designed to the house's advantage and it's all been planned carefully.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: AicecreaME on December 06, 2020, 03:41:45 AM
The over complicated mechanics in betting is sometimes what lead to a loss such 1-0 and 0-0 type of bets, and most gambling platforms has this. So in the end the house still wins, that's why i only play simple when your favourite team wins you get the cash but if not you'll lose.
Consider changing to other platforms if you want profits. 

Yeah, you were right .. It's undeniable that the houses have a greater chance of winning our money than our chances to win their money. Because of the odds made by them, it designed to the house's advantage and it's all been planned carefully.

If we're going to have more chances of winning than the house, then they will be bankrupted and will be forced to close their business. Gambling sites always win because they have a bankroll to make each day to make their business run as long as possible. We all know that the risk of losing our money in gambling is high but still we continue to gamble. I guess that's not the fault of gambling site anymore since we're the one who's responsible for our decisions.

We just have to avoid putting the blame to somebody if it's clearly our fault why we always continue losing money in gambling.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: supine on December 06, 2020, 04:39:50 AM
There is no trick on this as a sport bettor we should be aware that in sports everything could change even in a short period of time the game phase could instantly change.
And we don't have an effect on their match so we couldn't also say that it is our bad luck.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 06, 2020, 05:51:05 AM
On reading the OP, I am reminded of The gamblers fallacy as something similar to this in a broader perspective.

The gambler thinks that they are going to win on the next game but that next game never happens to be a win. Possibility of a win is there mathematically but in reality it is just luck when you are playing against the odds that is an EV- game.

Hence I think every gambler should think logically which many of them cant do anymore and limit the amount of bankroll being spent.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Wexnident on December 06, 2020, 06:24:41 AM
On reading the OP, I am reminded of The gamblers fallacy as something similar to this in a broader perspective.

The gambler thinks that they are going to win on the next game but that next game never happens to be a win. Possibility of a win is there mathematically but in reality it is just luck when you are playing against the odds that is an EV- game.

Hence I think every gambler should think logically which many of them cant do anymore and limit the amount of bankroll being spent.

To be specific, the gamblers fallacy, or also known as the monte carlo fallacy, is basically how an event that continuously happens is less likely to happen on the next occurence. It's like that stupid (I call it stupid even though I used it lmao) strategies of examinees in a multiple-choice exam. If you had a question with no answer, and the past few answers were all C, the chances of it being C is less unlikely, according to your bs reasoning pulled up from who knows where.

It is indeed reasonable to correlate it to gambling, since most people new to gambling have that mindset. Unfortunately for them, the chances of winning DO NOT accumulate, they reset with each try, with each game, with each cycle. It isn't like pity in gacha games where after x amount of rolls, you get a guaranteed character.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: plvbob0070 on December 06, 2020, 04:20:12 PM
It's so much disappointing when you are in this situation because you already have that hope but then, your bad luck strikes. Several situations may happen to the players or in the sport itself that's why even if it's already the last game, it can't be always on our side. It's indeed upsetting but for me, I just always try to move on after some time and think that I'm always not that lucky. If it's not meant to be, then I will just try my luck next time.
Sometimes I believe that they make  an algorithm that if you will near to success you will lose that game, maybe consecutively win needed to have losses, I think maybe it is only misfortune or a piece of bad luck but it will all depends on you, when you win, better to save some of it so that you will already have your winning money , then bet the half of it, it is just a safe play not to lose too much if you feel that bad luck will come and will wash out your money.
We won't reach that part of "success" if we wouldn't try, and I think that's the reason why most bettors who have this kind of experience still keep on trying their luck. But sometimes greediness can really mess up our luck and I'm somehow guilty about this because I've experienced this near success thing. Your suggestion is good tho, but when you're feeling lucky because of your consecutive wins, it's kinda hard to think that bad luck will come to mess it up.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: dimonstration on December 06, 2020, 10:59:18 PM
On reading the OP, I am reminded of The gamblers fallacy as something similar to this in a broader perspective.

The gambler thinks that they are going to win on the next game but that next game never happens to be a win. Possibility of a win is there mathematically but in reality it is just luck when you are playing against the odds that is an EV- game.

Hence I think every gambler should think logically which many of them cant do anymore and limit the amount of bankroll being spent.

Sometimes we believe what we think will happen since that's what we wish and aim for. I also sometimes believe that what we say and think will going to happen so whenever I watch game before I keep on telling and speaking the TEAM I bet with to win, but sometimes luck is not really on us that we lose. It will be on the matter of how we see our win or lose and controls ourselves over those winnings or losing we experienced.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Ziskinberg on December 06, 2020, 11:29:00 PM
On reading the OP, I am reminded of The gamblers fallacy as something similar to this in a broader perspective.

The gambler thinks that they are going to win on the next game but that next game never happens to be a win. Possibility of a win is there mathematically but in reality it is just luck when you are playing against the odds that is an EV- game.

Hence I think every gambler should think logically which many of them cant do anymore and limit the amount of bankroll being spent.

Sometimes we believe what we think will happen since that's what we wish and aim for. I also sometimes believe that what we say and think will going to happen so whenever I watch game before I keep on telling and speaking the TEAM I bet with to win, but sometimes luck is not really on us that we lose. It will be on the matter of how we see our win or lose and controls ourselves over those winnings or losing we experienced.

We need to make a calculated move because we calculate the risk in gambling, if we based only on our emotion, that is gambling without proper planning and we would not succeed in the long run. If we keep making this mistake from time to time without learning, then I'm afraid gambling is not for us.

It's only okay if you are doing pure entertainment but the fact that you are also aiming to win some, you need to change the way you see gambling.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: chaser15 on December 06, 2020, 11:39:04 PM
It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

No trick behind it. We are playing gambling here.

It's just that not all the time, luck will always on our side even how professionally analyzed those matches.

Accept the fact that it's not easy to win in sports betting especially in parlays. If things that easy, we shouldn't see a majority of losers here.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: maydna on December 07, 2020, 01:39:30 AM
On reading the OP, I am reminded of The gamblers fallacy as something similar to this in a broader perspective.

The gambler thinks that they are going to win on the next game but that next game never happens to be a win. Possibility of a win is there mathematically but in reality it is just luck when you are playing against the odds that is an EV- game.

Hence I think every gambler should think logically which many of them cant do anymore and limit the amount of bankroll being spent.

Sometimes we believe what we think will happen since that's what we wish and aim for. I also sometimes believe that what we say and think will going to happen so whenever I watch game before I keep on telling and speaking the TEAM I bet with to win, but sometimes luck is not really on us that we lose. It will be on the matter of how we see our win or lose and controls ourselves over those winnings or losing we experienced.

Perhaps, you will see your team win in the next rounds, but not at that match. Luck will not always come to us, even if we keep thinking about what we want. But the luck will come again in the future at the right time, so you can expect to get your luck again.

Yes, controlling ourselves will be the important thing that we should have in gambling games. We can't hope that our mind will succeed to objectify what we think. It will depend on the luck factor that will help that thing to happen. If it's related to gambling games, we always want to see we can win, but it will not always happen.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Lorence.xD on December 07, 2020, 06:19:14 AM
On reading the OP, I am reminded of The gamblers fallacy as something similar to this in a broader perspective.

The gambler thinks that they are going to win on the next game but that next game never happens to be a win. Possibility of a win is there mathematically but in reality it is just luck when you are playing against the odds that is an EV- game.

Hence I think every gambler should think logically which many of them cant do anymore and limit the amount of bankroll being spent.

I do not think that it has anything to do with luck, the casinos just mask the word probability to deter doubts from casino players. You said it already, the possibility to win is mathematically which cancels out the involvement of luck, sure we consider it luck but have we ever consider the definition of luck or consider its existence. If gamblers think logically then luck is not their go to for reliance when playing.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: AicecreaME on December 07, 2020, 06:21:41 AM
On reading the OP, I am reminded of The gamblers fallacy as something similar to this in a broader perspective.

The gambler thinks that they are going to win on the next game but that next game never happens to be a win. Possibility of a win is there mathematically but in reality it is just luck when you are playing against the odds that is an EV- game.

Hence I think every gambler should think logically which many of them cant do anymore and limit the amount of bankroll being spent.

Sometimes we believe what we think will happen since that's what we wish and aim for. I also sometimes believe that what we say and think will going to happen so whenever I watch game before I keep on telling and speaking the TEAM I bet with to win, but sometimes luck is not really on us that we lose. It will be on the matter of how we see our win or lose and controls ourselves over those winnings or losing we experienced.

I also believe in the same thing and I apply it in my everyday living, but I think it's not applicable to gambling. Positive thoughts attracts positive energy, that's what they said, but it's only for good things I guess that we're wishing to have. Well, since gambling is a bad habit and a bad way of earning money as what the society says, makes it hard to apply that motto. There's just luck alone that exist in gambling, without it, you'll never make profits.

And forcing yourself to believe on the same thing all over again in gambling will just make you peril in the long term. We have to be mature in decision making in gambling in order to fight greediness to avoid losing so much money in gambling.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: TheUltraElite on December 07, 2020, 06:22:58 AM
It's like that stupid (I call it stupid even though I used it lmao) strategies of examinees in a multiple-choice exam. If you had a question with no answer, and the past few answers were all C, the chances of it being C is less unlikely, according to your bs reasoning pulled up from who knows where.
For competitive exams though those who are doing that have no chance of clearing the lowest cutoffs. :D

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It is indeed reasonable to correlate it to gambling, since most people new to gambling have that mindset. Unfortunately for them, the chances of winning DO NOT accumulate, they reset with each try, with each game, with each cycle.
Many gamblers actually think that a number of red rolls means the next has higher chance of going green. I tell them every roll is independent of the previous rolls but they dont seem be believe me. The math is correct and correlates with reality but they follow what they think is correct.  End result being huge losses.

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It isn't like pity in gacha games where after x amount of rolls, you get a guaranteed character.
The stock of balls in gacha is limited so if you keep on pounding that machine with coins eventually you will drain its stock so you get what you wanted. You would also spend a lot there, but its better in my opinion than plain gambling - at least in gachapons you get something to keep.

I do not think that it has anything to do with luck, the casinos just mask the word probability to deter doubts from casino players. You said it already, the possibility to win is mathematically which cancels out the involvement of luck, sure we consider it luck but have we ever consider the definition of luck or consider its existence. If gamblers think logically then luck is not their go to for reliance when playing.
If and only if gamblers would think logically, they would stop gambling altogether. I mean logically they are going to lose more than win - which diligent person would spend another second on such a place? ;D


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: XCANA on December 07, 2020, 06:33:33 AM
There's a saying by wanting more you lose a lot, it's hard to predict when you are going to lose gambling is base on luck, you never know what's going to happen in the next roll or bet, you just have to accept it as it is, no use crying over spilled milk, just don't be greedy and learn when to give up.
There's nothing tricky about this sincerely, the human wants that brought this upon man is the greed of a man. The fundamentals in gambling should be known for gamblers before venture into gambling, this will help gamblers understand the clear terms in mind before gambling. Gambling is not a place to get passive income like others think loud, gambling should be handle with fun and as entertainment, but, gamblers has chosen this as an avenue of earnings centers which is not right that make it tricky while we loss through greed.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: carlisle1 on December 07, 2020, 07:05:59 AM
There's a saying by wanting more you lose a lot, it's hard to predict when you are going to lose gambling is base on luck, you never know what's going to happen in the next roll or bet, you just have to accept it as it is, no use crying over spilled milk, just don't be greedy and learn when to give up.
There's nothing tricky about this sincerely, the human wants that brought this upon man is the greed of a man. The fundamentals in gambling should be known for gamblers before venture into gamb
This must be addressed to those people that encouraging their friends or family to try and venture gambling because they are the one responsible for what will be the future in gambling of those they had push into this Habit.
before letting them Learn about gambling they must learn first what can be the outcome and how much dealing they had to invest and when to quit.

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Gambling is not a place to get passive income like others think loud, gambling should be handle with fun and as entertainment, but, gamblers has chosen this as an avenue of earnings centers which is not right that make it tricky while we loss through greed.
There are two type of gambler,

The one who wanted to enjoy and just release stress because of the Thrill gambling canbring.


The other is the Gambler who want's to increase His financial status in easy way but while doing this he only drops His chance of having what he wants.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 07, 2020, 07:49:48 AM
There's a saying by wanting more you lose a lot, it's hard to predict when you are going to lose gambling is base on luck, you never know what's going to happen in the next roll or bet, you just have to accept it as it is, no use crying over spilled milk, just don't be greedy and learn when to give up.
There's nothing tricky about this sincerely, the human wants that brought this upon man is the greed of a man. The fundamentals in gambling should be known for gamblers before venture into gambling, this will help gamblers understand the clear terms in mind before gambling. Gambling is not a place to get passive income like others think loud, gambling should be handle with fun and as entertainment, but, gamblers has chosen this as an avenue of earnings centers which is not right that make it tricky while we loss through greed.

Yep, gambling is not a place to get passive income. There will be a time for us to have to lose in gambling. But if you know that when you win, that will be the time for you to stop gambling, you will not face near success conditions because you lose in the next rounds. It needs more control to say to yourself that I am must stop after this, no matter what the result is. But greediness can always tell us to continue playing gambling.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Cnut237 on December 07, 2020, 09:52:59 AM
"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

I don't think this is the case. It's just that it's more noticeable when it's the last bet.
Similar to how whenever you join a queue at a supermarket, it feels like it is always the slowest moving queue and people in the nearby queues are getting to the checkout much quicker... but actually what is happening is that you only notice it when you're in the slower queue... when you're in the faster queue, you never even think about it.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: ice098 on December 07, 2020, 10:01:58 AM
Yep, gambling is not a place to get passive income. There will be a time for us to have to lose in gambling. But if you know that when you win, that will be the time for you to stop gambling, you will not face near success conditions because you lose in the next rounds. It needs more control to say to yourself that I am must stop after this, no matter what the result is. But greediness can always tell us to continue playing gambling.
Indeed, there is no assurance in gambling, but sometimes we mistakenly treat gambling as our investment which should we not do, because we cannot stop our losses once we do all in, we cannot make some scalping nor arbitraging, we may feel that oh maybe because we're close to winning that's why we lose, for me, it is only natural for us to lose it is part of the life, if we win that's good our strategy is improving if we lose it's a lesson for us.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: PaulBf1 on December 07, 2020, 10:14:59 AM
does the syndrome really exist ? or you just came up with it upon your past experiences?


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: rhomelmabini on December 07, 2020, 10:47:36 AM
does the syndrome really exist ? or you just came up with it upon your past experiences?
Probably just past experiences and more of just bad decisions I suppose that it tends to happen. More often than not if you have already have profits then let that one be in play not your capital. I think relying on what's suppose to be the best chance of winning isn't that nice remember even if that's the case the scenario will always be a 50/50.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Natsuu on December 07, 2020, 11:23:08 AM
"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

I don't think this is the case. It's just that it's more noticeable when it's the last bet.
Similar to how whenever you join a queue at a supermarket, it feels like it is always the slowest moving queue and people in the nearby queues are getting to the checkout much quicker... but actually what is happening is that you only notice it when you're in the slower queue... when you're in the faster queue, you never even think about it.

This might be the explanation for the "syndrome" they are talking about. The fact that the last bet is noticeable in an accumulated bet, makes it more crucial, and thus inflicts a sense of loss in our minds. We don't really happen to count all of the wins and losses in an accumulated bet, but instead, we most probably notice the first and the last bets when you put it in a spreadsheet.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Casdinyard on December 07, 2020, 03:55:15 PM
"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

I don't think this is the case. It's just that it's more noticeable when it's the last bet.
Similar to how whenever you join a queue at a supermarket, it feels like it is always the slowest moving queue and people in the nearby queues are getting to the checkout much quicker... but actually what is happening is that you only notice it when you're in the slower queue... when you're in the faster queue, you never even think about it.

This might be the explanation for the "syndrome" they are talking about. The fact that the last bet is noticeable in an accumulated bet, makes it more crucial, and thus inflicts a sense of loss in our minds. We don't really happen to count all of the wins and losses in an accumulated bet, but instead, we most probably notice the first and the last bets when you put it in a spreadsheet.
There's no syndrome related to this. As for what I have read, it is more of an "end-of-the-day betting effect" developed by McGlothlin (1956) and Ali(1977). This idea states that there is a change on the gambler's behavior regarding their risk-taking habits in which they tend to bet higher in their last bet in order to cope up with their losses. Which more often yield to bigger losses than the assumed outcome of regaining what's lost. But I'd view this as either greed or frustration. Greed will exist if a gambler has lots of winnings but still chose to bet all of its for a bigger profit, while frustrations are for those who lost huge amount. How to resolve this problem? Simply impose self-discipline which is not as easy as it may sound.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: fiulpro on December 07, 2020, 04:18:55 PM
Hello
I don't think there is any proof that this might happen , it might just be perceived by our brain in a weird way, what I do Believe is that most of the bets we are playing are fair therefore there is equal chances of us loosing and winning but if we do loose , we perceive this in a negative way. The more you are into the game the more your chances of winning reduces , for example :
If you are playing a game which have two options , just two so the probability of you winning is : 1/2 , but if you are playing a connected one and you started another round it will become 1/4, If you went till the third round it will be 1/8, now this will go on and on and therefore this will actually be like this for a x number of outcomes and thus I do believe that it's not a problem of the company perse , it's just that out chances of winning consecutively decreases with every step. Just try out permutations and combinations and look for yourself. This is a myth and a game that your mind plays with you.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: South Park on December 07, 2020, 08:51:03 PM
It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

No trick behind it. We are playing gambling here.

It's just that not all the time, luck will always on our side even how professionally analyzed those matches.

Accept the fact that it's not easy to win in sports betting especially in parlays. If things that easy, we shouldn't see a majority of losers here.
Predicting the outcome of an event is hard enough and even professional gamblers that earn money out of the activity cannot predict most outcomes most of the time, so trying to parlay your bets is a mistake, just think of all the times people fell short of their parlay wanting to win big immediately and losing their money and think of all the money they could have won if they have made a bet on each one of those games individually, this is why it is not enough to be able to predict correctly the outcome of games you need a strategy to profit from it or you will still lose money.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Mahanton on December 07, 2020, 09:19:58 PM
It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

No trick behind it. We are playing gambling here.

It's just that not all the time, luck will always on our side even how professionally analyzed those matches.

Accept the fact that it's not easy to win in sports betting especially in parlays. If things that easy, we shouldn't see a majority of losers here.
Predicting the outcome of an event is hard enough and even professional gamblers that earn money out of the activity cannot predict most outcomes most of the time, so trying to parlay your bets is a mistake, just think of all the times people fell short of their parlay wanting to win big immediately and losing their money and think of all the money they could have won if they have made a bet on each one of those games individually, this is why it is not enough to be able to predict correctly the outcome of games you need a strategy to profit from it or you will still lose money.

Try to compare the odds of parlays and with single bets.Yes, they might really be on that small margin but there are people who do really like out to earn even more
even with those less chances or more riskier bets.When talking about predicting the outcome then its always been a challenged.No matter how professional
you are then you are still bound to losses which is inevitable.The advantage here compared to noobs or amateurs is that they do able to control up their
emotion in times that they had lost a bet.When it comes to money or bankroll management then they are much aware.They wont be called pro's
for no reason.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: dimonstration on December 07, 2020, 10:32:29 PM
does the syndrome really exist ? or you just came up with it upon your past experiences?
There is no such syndrome but mostly it occurs when we do play alot and tendency is we will play almost a huge and multiple bets when we about to end our game since we tend to be excited hoping that we will also win that one and when we get too excited in things we do, we losses our track and focus which maybe the reason we experiences such thing of almost winning then at the end losing since we were trying whether the luck is really there and still exist. It will be good if we will be able to stop when we already won but we always have this in my mind to still try for one last time that makes more and somehow ends lose.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Genemind on December 08, 2020, 02:31:49 AM
It most likely because of bad luck, even as a bookmaker it is difficult to predict the outcome of the match. There is no trick on this, and I doubt such syndrome exist, people who usually play a lot of games think this is a gambling phenomenon, trick, sundrome, or whatever you call it, but gambling is gambling everything lays on luck purely.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: michellee on December 08, 2020, 04:11:39 AM
It most likely because of bad luck, even as a bookmaker it is difficult to predict the outcome of the match. There is no trick on this, and I doubt such syndrome exist, people who usually play a lot of games think this is a gambling phenomenon, trick, sundrome, or whatever you call it, but gambling is gambling everything lays on luck purely.
Yes, I think the same as you. The bad luck can come without giving any sign to us, and when we lose more over than 6 times in a row, that can be bad luck for us. People who think like that will not consider that gambling games really need to have luck, and if they lose at the end of the games, they will say that it is a trick from gambling that makes the gambler lose everything. I think they need to realize that no matter how hard they try to get the most winning in a day, that will not be possible because the casino will be the winner in the end. But I believe that there are people who can be the last winner in the end because that person has big luck on that day so that he can win the money.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Ucy on December 08, 2020, 09:20:15 AM
I don't really know about this but considering the best, whether it is from the start or from your last bet it's just simply your luck. No matter how you are prepared about it, when things don't go well for the one who put your bet on, you cannot blame them because they are too have a bad day. You need to face it, you cannot just put a hundred percent assurance on betting, there are lots of possibilities.

I honestly wouldn't just assume am not lucky without doing some investigations, If I come across something strange. Doing this could help me improve in my subsequent games or help me determine whether to continue betting on thesame platform. Better to understand alot of the factors that influence bet outcomes and bet accordingly


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Gotumoot on December 08, 2020, 09:35:14 AM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.
When you say bets does it mean sports bet or events?
Because if it is a sports bets then we couldn't really predict the outcome of each match's so there wouldn't be a trick for it other than studying everything about it before betting.
Calculating their chance of winning against their opponent and knowing their pros/cons.
But if it is bets on dice or gambling I think it is bad luck and greed at the same time.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: AicecreaME on December 08, 2020, 09:58:16 AM
I don't really know about this but considering the best, whether it is from the start or from your last bet it's just simply your luck. No matter how you are prepared about it, when things don't go well for the one who put your bet on, you cannot blame them because they are too have a bad day. You need to face it, you cannot just put a hundred percent assurance on betting, there are lots of possibilities.

If your plan didn't go out as what you've plan, then it's normal and it's not bad luck. Analyzing a match could only go for 80 percent accuracy that your analysation is correct, so you shouldn't expect to win a 100 percent. Luck only exist on those games that doesn't have any patterns like DICE for example, compare to sports betting that you could be so sure about your bet since you studied all the previous matches of your favorite team and the opponent team.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Wexnident on December 08, 2020, 11:11:36 AM
It's like that stupid (I call it stupid even though I used it lmao) strategies of examinees in a multiple-choice exam. If you had a question with no answer, and the past few answers were all C, the chances of it being C is less unlikely, according to your bs reasoning pulled up from who knows where.
For competitive exams though those who are doing that have no chance of clearing the lowest cutoffs. :D
True, was just making my point about it. Students who have no path to go forth tend to rely on some stupid theory they themselves have experienced from every exam after all, and one of those is the gamblers fallacy.
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The stock of balls in gacha is limited so if you keep on pounding that machine with coins eventually you will drain its stock so you get what you wanted. You would also spend a lot there, but its better in my opinion than plain gambling - at least in gachapons you get something to keep.
That's probably why people tend to accept gacha, when they refuse to acknowledge gambling when in a sense, both of them are actually just the same thing. People tend to accept things that return something even if it was chance, as long as that something was actually an item/object instead of money. Yet they also accept lotteries and jackpots. Quite the odd society tbh.

When you say bets does it mean sports bet or events?
Because if it is a sports bets then we couldn't really predict the outcome of each match's so there wouldn't be a trick for it other than studying everything about it before betting.
Calculating their chance of winning against their opponent and knowing their pros/cons.
But if it is bets on dice or gambling I think it is bad luck and greed at the same time.
Pretty sure it applies to both types. There are times when a game between two teams end up in one team winning due to luck. A sample would be ace player got injured, not feeling well, etc, but those factors aren't really taken into account when you bet at the start.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: btc78 on December 08, 2020, 11:37:25 AM
Well, honestly, I don't think of preparing a cash out if I'm still playing.
it'slike counting Chicks when they are still inside Egg shells.
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I suggest one has to learn to be specific with their game plan, cash out when necessary and don't wait for another win before you cash out.
Well but What OP's concern is He thinks that there is something wrong with the game settings or the operators because each last game what he got is losing.
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The thing is, we want to be profitable, and it's not wise to not think of enjoying your profit because gambling without direction will only left you unprofitable in the end, go with your plan, don't be greedy, just master yourself in doing the right thing and you'll eventually be consistent in the long run.
Exactly and must have self control and preparation because the Problem un many gamblers they Tend to Dominate and Good in Attacking but has no plan in defensive side.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: zidanw on December 08, 2020, 11:45:08 AM
                                                                           The near success syndrome

There is this near success syndrome that is associated with compilation or multiple bets. I'm damned sure most bettors who use the accumulated bet strategy must have experienced this a few or lots of times and it usually feels so disappointing and the day begins to feel like it's not one of your best days. The thing is,

"In an accumulated bet, why is it often the last games that goes rugged and you end up loosing what's supposed to be a best bet and was already preparing for a cash out or the next step"

It's always never funny when this happens. What's the trick about it, is it that, bookmarkers just knows and tends to push the game to the last in the series for an accumulated bet option or it's really bad luck, if there is such a thing as bad luck or other reasons. What really is the trick about this scenario.

Happened to me before if I could remember it's about 4 games the first 3 games wins and the last game lose, It was really a sad day for me I've waited for 2 days for that accumulated bets to accomplished but ended up losing on the last game.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 08, 2020, 12:23:46 PM
Yep, gambling is not a place to get passive income. There will be a time for us to have to lose in gambling. But if you know that when you win, that will be the time for you to stop gambling, you will not face near success conditions because you lose in the next rounds. It needs more control to say to yourself that I am must stop after this, no matter what the result is. But greediness can always tell us to continue playing gambling.
Indeed, there is no assurance in gambling, but sometimes we mistakenly treat gambling as our investment which should we not do, because we cannot stop our losses once we do all in, we cannot make some scalping nor arbitraging, we may feel that oh maybe because we're close to winning that's why we lose, for me, it is only natural for us to lose it is part of the life, if we win that's good our strategy is improving if we lose it's a lesson for us.

That is what happens if we can not control ourselves in gambling. We never think about the losses because we will not stop if we are not satisfied with the winning. If a gambler says that, he really needs to realize that they can not win in gambling, even in the last rounds for them. We can hope that we can get lessons from our losses and consider that gambling is only for fun.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Debonaire217 on December 08, 2020, 01:15:36 PM
Happened to me before if I could remember it's about 4 games the first 3 games wins and the last game lose, It was really a sad day for me I've waited for 2 days for that accumulated bets to accomplished but ended up losing on the last game.

Perhaps, it wasn't really controlled by the house, but there could be a chance that there's an inside job where the game was being manipulated. With this, accumulated betting is quite risky if the reputation of the platform isn't that much built with integrity. But games will still continue, with this, it is better that we research some parlay strategy in order to increase our chance of winning. I have searched this video on youtube and it will be helpful for accumulated bettor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb6UwVGHKFc.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Natsuu on December 08, 2020, 03:40:21 PM
~SNIP~
There's no syndrome related to this. As for what I have read, it is more of an "end-of-the-day betting effect" developed by McGlothlin (1956) and Ali(1977). This idea states that there is a change on the gambler's behavior regarding their risk-taking habits in which they tend to bet higher in their last bet in order to cope up with their losses. Which more often yield to bigger losses than the assumed outcome of regaining what's lost. But I'd view this as either greed or frustration. Greed will exist if a gambler has lots of winnings but still chose to bet all of its for a bigger profit, while frustrations are for those who lost huge amount. How to resolve this problem? Simply impose self-discipline which is not as easy as it may sound.

Yeah, the statement is real and effectively applicable for gamblers, but regarding the OP's statement, we can also view in his statement that in the accumulated bet, the last one tends to be frustrating if it is a loss due to the recognizability of the final bet, where the attention of the gambler is focused in this last bet. We can think of it as an emotional attachment to the final bet, just like in basketball, even if you score well in the midst of the game, the final 2 minutes will still standout the most of the game. Also if a player can buzzer beat, the emotion in that last shot will last for a long period of time.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: kamadazje on December 08, 2020, 04:52:00 PM
I agree to most of the opinion that were shared here, there is no trick behind it especially if the bets are coming from sports betting as the bookmakers have no control over the result so it is really a bad luck.

Not all the games will end up a losing one therefore if you end up losing your last bet then you are not that lucky in that day for sure. And I believe in bad luck as I cannot see any other reasons behind this kind of happenings.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Fredomago on December 08, 2020, 05:26:32 PM
Yep, gambling is not a place to get passive income. There will be a time for us to have to lose in gambling. But if you know that when you win, that will be the time for you to stop gambling, you will not face near success conditions because you lose in the next rounds. It needs more control to say to yourself that I am must stop after this, no matter what the result is. But greediness can always tell us to continue playing gambling.
Indeed, there is no assurance in gambling, but sometimes we mistakenly treat gambling as our investment which should we not do, because we cannot stop our losses once we do all in, we cannot make some scalping nor arbitraging, we may feel that oh maybe because we're close to winning that's why we lose, for me, it is only natural for us to lose it is part of the life, if we win that's good our strategy is improving if we lose it's a lesson for us.

That is what happens if we can not control ourselves in gambling. We never think about the losses because we will not stop if we are not satisfied with the winning. If a gambler says that, he really needs to realize that they can not win in gambling, even in the last rounds for them. We can hope that we can get lessons from our losses and consider that gambling is only for fun.
There are differences within each gamblers, some may accept the defeats and walk away knowing that they don't have anything to prove and accept the entertaining part of this industry, While others are not. There are heavy gamers who are after with money, they are not going to be satisfied and they will keep trying more harder to find ways in winning against the house.

You can use such lesson to and experienced to avoid doing the same mistakes
over and over again. Instead, you'll use it to find your advantage.





Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: Quidat on December 08, 2020, 05:37:18 PM
Yep, gambling is not a place to get passive income. There will be a time for us to have to lose in gambling. But if you know that when you win, that will be the time for you to stop gambling, you will not face near success conditions because you lose in the next rounds. It needs more control to say to yourself that I am must stop after this, no matter what the result is. But greediness can always tell us to continue playing gambling.
Indeed, there is no assurance in gambling, but sometimes we mistakenly treat gambling as our investment which should we not do, because we cannot stop our losses once we do all in, we cannot make some scalping nor arbitraging, we may feel that oh maybe because we're close to winning that's why we lose, for me, it is only natural for us to lose it is part of the life, if we win that's good our strategy is improving if we lose it's a lesson for us.

That is what happens if we can not control ourselves in gambling. We never think about the losses because we will not stop if we are not satisfied with the winning. If a gambler says that, he really needs to realize that they can not win in gambling, even in the last rounds for them. We can hope that we can get lessons from our losses and consider that gambling is only for fun.
There are differences within each gamblers, some may accept the defeats and walk away knowing that they don't have anything to prove and accept the entertaining part of this industry, While others are not. There are heavy gamers who are after with money, they are not going to be satisfied and they will keep trying more harder to find ways in winning against the house.

You can use such lesson to and experienced to avoid doing the same mistakes
over and over again. Instead, you'll use it to find your advantage.

Dont always think about winning because this one will just trigger out the greediness inside you thats why you shouldnt tolerate that kind of motive because this will really just
create more mess if you do follow up on whats to your emotion and in to your mind.Dont let those aims and targets overcome you because if you dont able to meet up those
expectations then that would create frustration and rage and if you do know that you still have money into your pocket then you would most likely be continuing
until you do bust all of your money.When i do gamble its impossible to say that you arent hoping for some win and thinking about those amount that you can potentially
earn but its not just right to think that you are precisely 100% correct most of the time.


Title: Re: How tricky is this?
Post by: FontSeli on December 08, 2020, 09:15:16 PM
There are hardly any people who don't care if they lost a lot of money or not while they can enjoy the game.
I sometimes play in ordinary casinos for fun, I have a certain amount of money that I can afford to lose. However I always regret losing, especially if it happens very quickly.
Normal!

We are just humans and we do really make those kind of reactions even someone do say that they do play for the sake of entertainment.
Our body would really be reacting and emotion will really be there because we are just humans and impossible for us to neglect or wont mind it much
because we dont like to lose money.So those kind of reactions isnt really that something new.Some people do just really expect that much
or being too confident that they can win anytime.

I don't like to lose money and I really play for fun. I see gambling as going to the movies, you don't expect to win anything with a ticket. You buy a ticket to enjoy the movie. So I'm enjoying the game. And when I win it brings double pleasure.
Trying to make money on gambling is a mistake. Only 1-2% of super lucky sons of bitches manage to do this. I'm not talking about professional poker players.