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What happened: Plagiarized Whitepaper

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2893780
Scammers Website: https://www.moneta.holdings/ | archived (https://archive.is/qcvxR)
Scammers ANN thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5297833.0 | archived (https://archive.is/60OoD)
Plagiarized Whitepaper: https://moneta.holdings/images/pdf/MONETAWHITEPAPER.pdf | archived (https://archive.is/egf49)
Additional Notes: I just strongly remember I've read the same sentence on appendix 1 somewhere, and googled the sentence. I didn't have plagiarism scanner that'll help outlining their entire copy-paste document, and although I spent a good two hours trying to find a decent one, none of the free version would help the entire 80+ pages of their WP... or maybe I'm just clueless, LOL. If anyone have a decent app or full account (or perhaps can share a site with full free scanning) please scan their WP as I am sure almost everything is plagiarized from several sources.

Flag raised: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2516

Some screenshot for easy view:

1. https://i.ibb.co/B6RfYPZ/break-neck.png (https://ibb.co/5jV1J98)
source: https://www.paynode.com/2019/08/25/lost-in-transit-the-problem-with-international-payments/

2. https://i.ibb.co/C6c8VfR/cashless.png (https://ibb.co/yp9PgrH)
source: https://www.actuaries.org.uk/system/files/field/document/06-04%20IFoA%20response%20to%20HM%20Treasury%20Cash%20and%20digital%20payments%20in%20the%20new%20economy.pdf
(pretty much the entire of page 4)

3. https://i.ibb.co/1Km95s6/Introduction-to.png (https://ibb.co/4MVjGsd)
source: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/207651/11.%20PE%20642.361%20Kiel%20publication-original.pdf
(again, pretty much the entire of page 8 )

I follow this thread, waiting for Moneta Holdings17 response before tagging them.

This team is also very suspicious to me. I did not find any details about them over the internet. Only some relations to stock images. It will be interesting if someone has some free time to research are these images generated by AI.

Moneta?  Wasn't that one of Yobit's shitcoins that only ever traded on Yobit and only ever for 1 satoshi?  I could swear that was the case and that Yobit was giving moneta away as one of their free coins a few years ago.

Anyway, nice catch OP.  I don't know if this is evidence of an impending scam, but it indicates two things about the team:  laziness and dishonesty, both of which any potential investor ought to be made aware of.  It baffles me that new projects are still plagiarizing parts of their whitepapers and then starting up ANN threads here.  They must not be aware of how much they're under a microscope when it comes to shilling their wares on bitcointalk.

https://i.imgur.com/zwZ22wH.png

Lol.  That's not even true anymore and hasn't been since at least the beginning of bitcoin.

No worries about these tools, you did good and showed their intention, and for that few copied pages are enough, you don't have to show whole whitepaper. You are right though about other parts being plagiarized as they also copied some stuff from Bitcoin whitepaper which is pretty obvious to notice if you read whole whitepaper, and incredibly stupid from Moneta. I tagged the op and will gladly support the flag if you make one.

By the way, nice catch and good thing that you noticed it early!


Yep, team looks dodgy af. None of the team members that have LinkedIn profile shared mentions Moneta, which is another red flag.


Now that you mentioned shilling, I think that they are doing that too. There are few suspicious newbies asking those standard questions, pretending to be interested and then OP answers them. Another "coincidence" is that they just woke up after a break and were active on some other threads that were using the same tactic.

Moneta has "money grab" written all over them, and I suggest everyone to avoid this.

Reported to CryptoScamAlert
https://cryptoscamalert.com/crypto_scam_report/964

User Moneta Holdings17 sent me a PM about reconsidering neg feedback on his profile.
As I say in my previous post here, waiting for his response here, I didn't get a single argument, why it is necessary to check it again. Still waiting for an explanation, even if we know that there will be the usual justification "they hire an agency which plagiarizes WP..."
I will not discuss this through PM.

I thought Moneta was a good project until I found this accusation thread. It’s now difficult to get back on track once that project was committing plagiarism, whether intentional or unintentional. If outsourced, they shoould have double or triple checked it to a plagiarism checker online to see if it’s original or plagiarized.

I don't think they'll reply here, based on their answer for my invitation to explain their action on this thread, I think they justifies plagiarism as a legal, or at least neutral, action.

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Will raise a flag if they didn't have any intention to explain here or give words to rewrite their whitepaper before today ends.

I got the PM as well, and also don't have any intentions to talk about it via PM. If he wants to say something, he should do it here, even though I am not sure that he can say anything for me to change my mind.


His reply is pure bs, seems like he is not even aware of the issue and how wrong is what they did. Given their reply, I don't think that waiting 1 day or 10 days will make any difference whatsoever so I suggest that you raise the flag now.

Noted and agreed. Flag raised as suggested, kindly support to activate it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2516

Regarding your hostile and aggressive behavior today.
We shall make note of this group and its members so we can investigate the real reasoning behind today's unbiased and very suspicious attack on Moneta Ann Thread.

We are very disappointed with the treatment we are receiving from this group here on Bitcointalk.org from the following users:

Rikifip
holydarkness
cheezcarls
examplens
andrei8787
The Pharmacist

For Attackers:
You do not have any entitlement to brand other members biased on uneducated guesses or assumptions.
Neither of you has any knowledge of the Moneta Project and Moneta Team.
We do agree the market of ICO's is unregulated thus attracting mal-players. However, we strongly believe that - just because someone makes unfounded assumptions, thinks, or feels - does not entitle him of expressing his thoughts in the manner your group did today. Yes - Moneta is a new project. Maybe we are not the most experienced in the field, however, we strive to build a community and unite people so we can build our project exactly as it says in the White Paper. We do not have Satoshi or Buterin, but the people in our team are our strength and it is very wrong to throw accusations, especially driven by hostile feelings or psychotic thinking.

To address your group main concern:
We have asked for the paper to be reviewed and probably it will be updated shortly if any discrepancies regarding plagiarism shall be found.  
  

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If other points of view, including those specifically in contrast with your own, can
be conveyed coherently - you would be less inclined to make skewed or inaccurate decisions.

The argument is you do not yet know the real answer, so if you address the scenario with
the most respectful interpretation, then instead of destroying it you will probably establish trust with those concerned.
Trust building pays dividends over time, especially in tough circumstances
where trust may act as a path to a friendly resolution.

The next time you feel inclined to make an accusation, take a step back and think about whether that’s really a fair assumption to make.
A simple google search of our CEO would clear most of your suspicions.
We do not make assumptions on your profiles, however, your profiles may be fakes, or maybe all of your group are imposters. We do not search for the reasoning behind your actions. It’s a free world.

“Respect yourself and others will respect you.”
Confucius

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“Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be—or to be indistinguishable from—self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.”
― Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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There's no progression without opposites. In human life, desire and repulsion, purpose and energy, love and hate, are necessary.
Not knowing everything is all that makes it OK, sometimes.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.    


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations (Moderator: Cyrus) > Scammers Group Identified - False Accusations and Ransomware
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299968.new#new

this is the most common defence when it comes to allegations of plagiarism. the question remains, why haven’t you review it before publishing Moneta?
You don't care about plagiarism, why would you care about potential customers?

I saw you like citation:

"Plagiarism is considered a violation of academic integrity and a breach of journalistic ethics. It is subject to sanctions such as penalties, suspension..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagiarism

Also, you don't need to create a new post for each reply here. it is excessive spam. You can write all that you want to say in one post, quoting and replying to each user one below the other.

When we fight on social media over something, it's easy to get the idea that people never change their minds. This feeling is compounded by the fact that we have the same unproductive debates with the same people month after month.

We argued with parents, brothers, husbands, neighbors, acquaintances, and strangers all our lives. And the explanation behind each of these claims is to attempt to bring the other person to our viewpoint. And, barring that, we can learn things.

Not all debates in our lives went well. Yet most of us sometimes tasted the fruit of a productive claim. We learn things in productive arguments. We're trying to find common ground. Coordinating vocabulary. We explain variations. We correct misperceptions and dissipate myths. And, even if we still may or may not disagree at the close of the debate, we understand better where the other party came from and feel better understood.

So let's work as hard to arrive at a charitable interpretation. We want to engage in productive dialogue, to decrease the inferential distance.

An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.    


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations (Moderator: Cyrus) > Scammers Group Identified - False Accusations and Ransomware
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299968.new#new

Like plagiarized whitepaper didn't bring them enough negative attention, Moneta decided to go full retard so today bunch of newbie accounts suddenly appeard on their announcement thread, asking stupid questions and pretending to be interested in this. At first i though that maybe they organized airdrop as few brand new accounts appeared, but when I checked post history of others, there was a history of doing the same thing on other threads, therefore they hired bumping group. Little they know how innefective that tactic is and that will only cause them more issues.

Shill accounts used:
VANDERWEELE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2638773)
due_cov1d (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2901188)
motolinba (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2638711)
TINDOLl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2638787)
adam_zampro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2901833)
rinkl_ptel9909 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2901893)
cryptodemystified (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1925012)
SITTERLY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2638867)
PARIVEENN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2639164)
Tonics Brendon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2757872)
MeetDave_0  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2757766)
RUOFERTT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2639142)

Now waiting for @Moneta Holdings17  to explain us how all these accounts appearing on the same day is just a coincidence and that those must be legit users having genuine interest in their project.

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It's also worth  to mention accounts that decided to oppose the flag: beside Moneta OP, two newbie accounts created in the last few days (BitcoinStar80 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2900546) and Masternode55 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2901916) ) and for some reason Full Member waiberz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1041993).

Oh, I was about to mention the same, noticed the opposition around one to two hours ago, when the thread was updated by your post and curiosity made me checked their thread and their flag, but I was busy doing something else that time. I believe they tried to negate the flag by creating a case where opposition are greater than support.

And, about waiberz, it confuses me a bit, but small digging tell us that it is very likely they're the real account of Moneta dev "team", or at least heavily involved on the project. They posted the original ANN thread three days before account Moneta Holdings17, on Dec 4, the same day Moneta Holdings17 were created, and then deleting them one day later (I believe that's due to the 24H deletion rule).

https://i.ibb.co/7zff2tp/Screenshot-2020-12-12-01-02-21-526-com-android-browser.jpg (https://ibb.co/9vDDsH4) https://i.ibb.co/Rjb4Z7j/Weiberz-or-something.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Always grateful that Loyce created such amazingly useful tools

It could also be that @waiberz was hired to create/design their announcement thread and then they changed their mind and decided to post it under their own account. Looking at waiberz topics created history, he created few of those in the past.

Then again, if he was just hired by Moneta team, why not distancing himself from them after plagiarism discovery? Instead, he did diametrically opposite thing and decided to oppose valid flag, therefore supporting the scammers.

Waiberz is a member of our team. He is involved with our social media campaign. He suggested joining forums we are on now. We agreed on starting the Threads, however, he took the initiative and started creating threads from his personal accounts. Moneta Dev team decided to go for their exclusive accounts. So we asked waiberz to delete started threads and republish from Moneta exclusive accounts.

waiberz checked the paper for plagiarism and did not find your allegations to be true. That is the reason he opposed your flag.


From Rikafip
"It could also be that @waiberz was hired to create/design their announcement thread and then they changed their mind and decided to post it under their own account."
I bet Rikafip knew that before we posted the answer). I fill a special bond with Rikafip now.

An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.    


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations (Moderator: Cyrus) > Scammers Group Identified - False Accusations and Ransomware
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299968.new#new

Rikafip there is no plagiarism, get over it. And while you feel entitled to brand people to your sentiment, let me brand you by our sentiment:
Rikafip=Ransomware
Rikafip=Bully
Rikafip=Not afraid of being punished for his mal doings


An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.    


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations (Moderator: Cyrus) > Scammers Group Identified - False Accusations and Ransomware
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299968.new#new

LOL that's clear plagiarism as @OP provided some proof above, IMO waiberz never checked your whitepaper and straightaway said no plagiarism.

Well @waiberz is supporting a scammer and wrong using of trust feedback too. Tagged and will revise if needed.
https://i.ibb.co/mCYmpzQ/Screenshot-19.png (https://ibb.co/C5XqL0x)

Jawhead999 can you please check the paper for plagiarism, and if you don't find any traces can you please stop your false accusations and become more respectful to members of this forum?
We have looked into your profiles, and many of you are traced to money laundering schemes, dodgy websites, and suspicious accounts, however, we do not brand you to what we feel or assume.   
This accusation group proves to be very aggressive to new members. We do not mind being given a lesson or guided, however, your actions are not exactly friendly.

Thank You in advance!

Rikafip maybe it is time to stop playing foolishly. Have you ever heard of Marketing?
What Is Marketing? (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/marketing.asp) - can you please read, and ask yourself after how one shall conduct business?  

By the way, if we were to ask the admins to look into our thread traffic, you may be surprised)))

Now you are asking "@Moneta Holdings17  to explain us"?

Rikafip - Who are you in the first place, making requests? Are you a real person? Are you an imposter? Are you a scammer? Are you a God?
Rikafip - Are you some sort of governing body? Can I see a document entitling you? If not, can you still explain - Who are you or maybe What are you?
Rikafip - Maybe we shall get a license before we are allowed any actions here, in this case, tell us more about this?
Rikafip - Maybe we shall pay you ransom before we are allowed to be here? in this case, tell us more about this?

So can you explain? Why shall we explain? to someone branded as:
Rikafip=Ransomware
Rikafip=Bully
Rikafip=Not afraid of being punished for his mal doings

Lastly, why explaining anything to an aggressive instance that is only focused on discriminatory branding of users of this forum. Please familiarise yourself with Marketing and you may find the answers you are looking for, of course, if that is the real reason for our social interaction.

Thank You for your attention, and I am sorry if I may have been a bit tough, I genuinely have or had no intentions to offend anyone here or anywhere else.

  
An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.    


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations (Moderator: Cyrus) > Scammers Group Identified - False Accusations and Ransomware
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299968.new#new

Those that sold you this service like to call themselves "marketing agency" which is just an euphemism for shilling. What they conveniently forgot to mention when they sold you this is that some time ago this tactic stopped working due bumping  changes on certain boards, so even if they spam the shit our of your ANN like they are doing now,  it wont make it any more visible than if you did nothing. As a matter of fact, you will get an extra attention, but not the kind you hoped for.

You see, same accounts that are "working" on your ANN will do the same thing on any other thread that hires them, whether its scam or not. They don't have any scruples and will work for just about anyone who pays. And here we take it seriously when someone supports the scam.

This is kind of poetic justice, scammers getting scammed :)

This would be a rather long post, but it's necessary.


First thing first, is this a confession that you hire a bumping service? So we can agree that not only you uses plagiarized whitepaper, you also hire people to fake interests? That's two unethical action, thank you for confessing.

Second, let's talk about the plagiarism you so stubbornly deny. Let me ask you this: do you know the meaning of plagiarism? If you don't, examplens gave (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5298276.msg55790759#msg55790759) you an easy to understand article. His was the consequences of plagiarism, but above the sentences were the definition of it. I'd advise you to give the page a look.

If you still don't understand, in short, plagiarism is the act of copying someone's work without giving the original creator any credit. Now, if you deny that there were any plagiarism on your work, I'll dedicate huge space below with a screenshot of a whole page from your whitepaper side-by-side with a published article that you copied.


Third, it was nice you refer us to the webpage. On the same page of the article, there is a link to something called "guerrilla marketing". In it, another link to astroturfing (https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rent-a-crowd.asp). Give it a shot, or simply just read an important snippet below:


If you still try to deny by saying it was a "marketing strategy", such action were forbidden on this forum. The forum didn't allow incentivizing post, and clearly hiring shiller were included in this category, as you paid them to well... shill.

Fourth, may we ask the reason behind creating accounts to deny and oppose the fact that you plagiarize many sources, as evidenced on the flag page and your trust feedback page of this forum?

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The said screenshot: sorry for the spaces, people.

https://i.ibb.co/rsMQ08w/Screenshot-2020-12-12-19-01-29-360-cn-wps-moffice-eng.png (https://ibb.co/PQ4rjX6)

https://i.ibb.co/3mbNGST/Screenshot-2020-12-12-19-02-42-361-cn-wps-moffice-eng.png (https://ibb.co/yFCyGgN)

And, the cover of the original article, if you deem it necessary:
https://i.ibb.co/2PtCvSt/Screenshot-2020-12-12-19-02-16-669-cn-wps-moffice-eng.png (https://ibb.co/ctFZ6wF)

I get the feeling you guys are paid or have a special interest in promoting your story. Fine)

Now, who told you we paid for services? We never made that statement. Are you taking it out of context? Are you making assumptions again?)))) Get back to sanity, please.)

Marketing is the spread of the word through social media)))) People do connect through social media exploring what they want to explore.
There is no way to control the will or desire. People decide themselves what to do.

Now, we all see your expertise in shilling or whatever you call it. Maybe that is the point. Maybe this group would like me to order with them this kind of service and that is the reason of you blackmailing us?  

Your friend holydarkness just been caught spoofing pictures)))) that's very amusing))))  holydarkness=False, fraud

Rikafip=Ransomware
Rikafip=Bully
Rikafip=Not afraid of being punished for his mal doings

We will not pay you anything? And we do not need your marketing services!


An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.    


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations (Moderator: Cyrus) > Scammers Group Identified - False Accusations and Ransomware
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299968.new#new

holydarkness can you please explain where do you get all these pictures. Are you a picture collage specialist?
This is not our paper, this is a remake. Are you paid to spoof materials in order to ransom people?
By the way, you have started this thread with spoofed images as well)))) You must be the main instigator!

An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.   


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

Do you see the difference?  

https://wl-brightside.cf.tsp.li/resize/1200x630/jpg/aea/2f4/53181d5a3fbf001ab402306b17.jpg


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What are you trying to scam out of me?)))

We support only disability and poverty. Are you disabled or poor? If not, stop acting irresponsibly, we are not handing any money to you, please do not beg anymore.

Now holydarkness since when people can not express their opinions here?
May we ask the reason behind the insinuations of creating accounts? Assumptions again???  Those are real people, expressing their point of view, can you admit anything except your arrogance?
To make phony pictures and accuse us of plagiarism is ok then?

holydarkness - We will not pay you anything? And we do not need your marketing services!


holydarkness=Ransomware
holydarkness=Bully
holydarkness=Faker, fraud

Aww... look at that, you're trying your best to remove evidence by switching words in the sentence and then deny the existence of the original document. Nonetheless, it is still considered as plagiarism, simply switching sentence's position is not paraphrasing. Plus, you do aware that I have several documents of yours, right? Like, downloaded into my PC, so I can procure the original ones anytime asked? (It was archived too, but darn I should have just stick to waybackmachine, their pdf archiver works better than the one I use)

Ohh... look at that, your hole is going deeper and deeper. Now we can add proof evasion to your record.

https://i.ibb.co/sKFqtdX/v-10.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/t8g9GsV/v-13.png (https://imgbb.com/)


And from this, we can conclude the intelligence of the... "dev". They can just admit their illegal activity of plagiarism (although that'll help nothing for their case, LOL), but they decided to play fool and goes a great length to bury the evidence, playing victim, and then attacking personally. To anyone investigating this project because they wanted to invest, I believe you should have made your decision this far.

holydarkness All we can conclude you have a special interest in being paid to back off your phony claims.
Your attempts to discredit users on this forum just play against you. These photos are not our WP. Your pictures just prove again you are tampering, making collage.
Even if you attempt to explain that, makes your stance even more guilty. If you don't like to be branded a scammer, do not act like one)

Your representative just acknowledged us the price you two(holydarkness & RikaFip) are asking to back of.)))))
Do we know who you two work for? holydarkness & RikaFip Yes, we do?

holydarkness
RikaFip
- We will not pay you anything? And we do not need your marketing services!


holydarkness,RikaFip=Ransomware
holydarkness,RikaFip=Bully
holydarkness,RikaFip=Faker, fraud

An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.    


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

An attempt to scam us into paying money for alleged marketing services have been registered. When we denied the offer, the attackers started a Thread branding us this and that and making false accusations.    


Scammers:
holydarkness
Rikafip
examplens
andrei8787
cheezcarls
Jawhead999

Their representative is asking an undisclosed amount of bitcoins from Moneta to remove the false accusations.

Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Trading Discussion > Scam Accusations (Moderator: Cyrus) > Scammers Group Identified - False Accusations and Ransomware
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299968.new#new

The information on moneta white paper is different to what you are posting, or the could have updated it. However there is no plagiarizm, they do have citations.


https://i.ibb.co/ZBJqKS7/moneta1.png (https://ibb.co/gS7kwdh)

They do have references:

https://i.ibb.co/VJX0JyN/moneta2.png (https://ibb.co/wBDZBHL)

However this information is old, where do you get all those pictures?

Just got an email from "airdropalert.com" about a 'STABILA' airdrop. Stabila's twitter is linked on aidropalert.com's webpage for the stabila airdrop as @moneta_holdings which is the twitter profile for moneta.holdings

https://airdropalert.com/stabila-airdrop (https://airdropalert.com/stabila-airdrop)
https://twitter.com/moneta_holdings (https://twitter.com/moneta_holdings)
https://moneta.holdings/stabila (https://moneta.holdings/stabila)

Thank you for this follow up information. Stabila is off my radar, I didn't even expect Moneta to continue their works this far, given their account is no longer active since last year, and your tips helped me. I'm reinvestigating both project.

The situation in the past was --aside from the hilarious witch-hunt of accusing everybody of blackmailing them-- Moneta plagiarized whitepaper from many sources. I didn't think Stabila followed this path, especially because one third of their whitepaper is already allocated for terminology, which... by itself, is already prone to the art of ctrl+c+v. However, to prove myself wrong, I ran a duplichecker, and indeed the result is negligible.

With that out of our way, I want to lay some foundation about how Moneta (https://moneta.holdings/) and Stabila (http://stabilascan.org) is connected. Just like the link you provide as well as stated on Moneta's website and Stabila's whitepaper (https://web.archive.org/web/20220102042920/https://stabilascan.org/api/static/Stabila_Whitepaper_(7).pdf), Stabila is the child company of Moneta and teamed by the same people.

https://i.ibb.co/WfFsbpQ/Moneta.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)https://i.ibb.co/wSsBz31/Stabila.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Several things that raised my concern upon reinvestigating them are:

1. The change of their office(s).
Although it is quite understandable for company to relocate themselves, it is quite uncanny for them to close all of their office on big cities (https://web.archive.org/web/20210201090959/https://www.moneta.holdings/about/contact) --and country-- and move (https://archive.is/BjIQG) to a rather remote umm... town?

https://i.ibb.co/q7zpR17/Old-offices.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)https://i.ibb.co/mF7PhgJ/New-office.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Something that's perhaps worth mentioning about the building where they're located, it is notoriously known for being listed as the address of a shady offshore trading company, at least that's the impression I get from reading the auto-translated review from people cross contries.

2. The lack of details about their team.
Moneta listed 9 people as their team according to their website (https://archive.is/rOmkc), but from 9 of these people, I can only verify 3 of them as a real person, in a sense that their name and record is searchable outside Moneta, and all 3 are the higher ups. From these three people, only 1 acknowledged his empoyment with Moneta, the other two didn't mention Moneta on their profile. These person are:

1. Daniel Varzari
Out of the three people, Mr. Varzari is the only one that shows and declare his relationship with Moneta, which should help us decide whether the project is real or not --if the only one person associated with the project is not provable as a real person, then it will be justified to question the project's legitimacy. However, there is an article published (https://www.virtosuart.com/blog/art-an-opportunity-to-build-a-stronger-community) --and written by himself-- on the website of other companies that he's been a board director of.

https://i.ibb.co/fG2Trzg/Dv-ln.jpg (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/KrTMCVw/DV-employment.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

2. Igor Scvortov
Mr. Scvortov mentioned an employment with Paragon Capital on his LinkedIn, but not Moneta. However, sadly, if you try to access Paragon's website --I deliberately put the entire link here instead of shorten the link with bbcode for fair play-- http://www.paragoncapital.com/, the site will redirect you to a website called e-lease, which rather feels like that the site as well as the project itself has failed and the site is now used by other user.

https://i.ibb.co/H2DxbvJ/Igor-paragon.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)https://i.ibb.co/QcH8RG9/Paragon-Igor.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

3. Anastasia Kovaleva
With a little dig, I managed to get a means of contact with Ms. Kovaleva. Well, to be honest, she's very active on social media and has a lot of press published about her, indicating that out of the three, she is the most real person. Details about her is deliberately not served here to respect her privacy, because of that very reason. However, below is the proof of contact.

https://i.ibb.co/Ns1FmSc/Contacting-kovaleva.jpg (https://ibb.co/xDm2fHx)

With all of the evidences I can gather in a day laid for public, the ball is now out of my court. I'll notify Stabila about this thread and hopefully they'll be able to clarify things. The way I see it, the easiest way to strengthen their credibility is by asking Ms. Kovaleva to reply my DM and vouch for them.

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P.s.: hmm... that's odd, their ann thread as well as other threads they owned are all locked. It is also brought to my attention that the thread is tagged (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59394605#msg59394605) by GazetaBitcoin as thread that utilizes bumping service. I guess I don't have other way but to contact them via PM.

Edit: proof of notifying Stabila

https://i.ibb.co/5kFzNZJ/PM.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Dear lord, I was wrong... well, partially. Maybe Stabila didn't do a foul play with their WP, but --staying true to their root with Moneta-- other documents that they published are copying other works, and they claimed them as their own.

Stablila official scam accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390639.0