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Title: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: PiousFox on December 08, 2020, 10:21:16 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Indymoney on December 08, 2020, 10:30:08 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?
If I am not wrong then its very simple if you want to check value of company then we have to check its cap because this will help us about company size and value even its not enough but I can hope now you understand what is market cap.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: PiousFox on December 08, 2020, 10:38:27 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?
If I am not wrong then its very simple if you want to check value of company then we have to check its cap because this will help us about company size and value even its not enough but I can hope now you understand what is market cap.

I mean lets say a coin has emitted 1 billion coins and people say each coin will be worth $500 dollars that gives that coin a $500 billion market cap which makes no sense


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Indymoney on December 08, 2020, 10:40:28 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?
If I am not wrong then its very simple if you want to check value of company then we have to check its cap because this will help us about company size and value even its not enough but I can hope now you understand what is market cap.

I mean lets say a coin has emitted 1 billion coins and people say each coin will be worth $500 dollars that gives that coin a $500 billion market cap which makes no sense
But sadly we have no coin worth of $500 with 1 billion coins in circulation or market hopefully this will makes sense.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Zeehaxan on December 08, 2020, 10:54:00 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?
You have a point but perhaps people here are predicting big values due to the fact that when crypto market goes parabolic every high price target that seems impossible in normal market conditions become a reality.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Teraboy on December 09, 2020, 01:36:25 AM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?
If I am not wrong then its very simple if you want to check value of company then we have to check its cap because this will help us about company size and value even its not enough but I can hope now you understand what is market cap.

I mean lets say a coin has emitted 1 billion coins and people say each coin will be worth $500 dollars that gives that coin a $500 billion market cap which makes no sense
Marketcap means how much the total shares of company worth in the fiat value and it think that makes sense. In fact if the crypto of the company can be considered as the same like the stock.
it sounds ridiculous but that's the fact. People are seeing it as the total valuation of company too.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: bitmover on December 09, 2020, 01:41:13 AM
Marketcap is a very simple formula

Marketcap = number of coins * price of coins

Instead of coins, you can use "number of stocks" for companies, to know the market value of a company


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: dhaldanga on December 09, 2020, 02:11:51 AM
Marketcap is a very simple formula

Marketcap = number of coins * price of coins

Instead of coins, you can use "number of stocks" for companies, to know the market value of a company
Thank you brother again for presenting many difficult issues in a very easy way.  I'd like to know more about this, please help.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: pedrillo0 on December 09, 2020, 02:36:36 AM
Suppose that Bitcoin is a company, and each unit is a share.

The value of each unit multiplied by the number of total units is the market cap...


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: hd49728 on December 09, 2020, 02:38:03 AM
Marketcap is a very simple formula

Marketcap = number of coins * price of coins

Instead of coins, you can use "number of stocks" for companies, to know the market value of a company
Number of coins = Total supply

It is a changeable marketcap as total supply can be changed any time by price change together with higher total supply when more coins are mined and available to be trade on market.

It can be decreased if developers (of centralized coins) burn their coins (premined coins). The events of burning coins can result in price rise or fall and price change can change marketcap too.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Malam90 on December 09, 2020, 03:32:01 AM
Marketcap is estimated with a project's outstanding coins/tokens and its market price comparing with USD value. It helps to understand how a company is financially strong, company's financial base, their volume, market price. Marketcap increase or decrease depends on the actual market price.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: hd49728 on December 09, 2020, 03:43:51 AM
Marketcap is estimated with a project's outstanding coins/tokens and its market price comparing with USD value.
It is not a comparison but is an estimation on value of a company that is decided, valued by investors on the market. In my opinion, it is a misleading term to assess value of a company.

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It helps to understand how a company is financially strong, company's financial base, their volume, market price. Marketcap increase or decrease depends on the actual market price.
It does not make sense if you use marketcap to consider a health of one project especially in crypto. The price can be risen 50% within 24 hours by news and you can not blindly say this company is being stronger 50% than it was yesterday. It is not like that.

You can use marketcap of companies you are interested in but you must combine it with other contributors and be cautious if you only use marketcap to value company strength and future growth.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: DoubleAweSeven on December 09, 2020, 03:46:57 AM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?

You really can't blame them. They're just trying to hype their project to an absurd number so that more investors try to invest in them. Just ignore them since there's not one rational person would listen to them, at least more investors don't.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: CryptoSable on December 09, 2020, 07:35:14 AM
Market cap only works for mainstream coins. For new projects, I don't think the numbers are trustworthy


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Psynthax on December 09, 2020, 07:54:01 AM
Well market cap in crypto is as simple as mutiplying total supply of a coin with its price. That's without taking into account all the lost coins that was wrongfully sent to address without owners and many more.

market cap is probably not accurate way to measure how big a coin market is but atleast that's what we got right now.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: BayAngelo on December 09, 2020, 09:38:23 AM
Actually the current trends in the crypto markets is unbelievable and overwhelming that project developers are money driven and no longer product driven. people cares so much about the money they will make Not the service the token will offer. it is hard this days to pick a project that offers a service for a long time. majority are chasing money.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: tvplus006 on December 09, 2020, 10:14:26 AM
If I am not wrong then its very simple if you want to check value of company then we have to check its cap because this will help us about company size and value even its not enough but I can hope now you understand what is market cap.
I mean lets say a coin has emitted 1 billion coins and people say each coin will be worth $500 dollars that gives that coin a $500 billion market cap which makes no sense

To talk about the total capitalization, it will not be enough to say that the coin is worth $500. It is necessary that in addition to offering a coin at this price, there is also a demand for it. Otherwise, there will be a situation where you set the price of a coin at $ 500, but no one is buying it at that price.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Galley on December 09, 2020, 11:36:50 AM
You can set any price for coins, but you must adhere to elementary logic. Nobody wants to buy it without first evaluating its possible value in the future. It is impossible to embrace the immensity. You can also set a price on the Moon, you can also buy it if you have enough money, but no one can use it, and then the money will be thrown into the wind.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: nemey on December 09, 2020, 11:47:00 AM
In this forum and in crypto, everyone has the right to have the hopes and targets they want. After all, this crypto is also a very uncertain investment so that there are many, even unnatural, possibilities to occur in crypto. I myself am not surprised by this. If it is for market capitalization, some experts will understand this. And it is true that their guess or target will of course also be more structured. The likelihood of this happening will also be greater.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: awakpane on December 09, 2020, 12:24:25 PM
Market cap is a good metric for guessing how valuable a cryptocurrency is, there are a few other factors to take into account. just knowing the market cap, you cannot make an accurate assessment of the value of the coin. you don't know how many of those coins are locked in an inactive wallet and what the true speed of this token is. Without all of these metrics, the market cap is not really the best method for assessing the true value of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: bekti3 on December 09, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
So here I will say that I do not really understand what is meant by market capitalist, in a simple and comprehensive manner that can be understood by the general public. for that can you give me a simple example of how the market capitalist system works?

I am not asking for a definition, but rather the market capitalist system works simply.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: masterrex on December 09, 2020, 01:08:47 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?

Mate, I understand what you mean, But dont take them seriously they are just speculating about the price of that particular coin/token, But sometimes some of them are not considering things like what you said about the total emission, which is involving the Market Capitalization which is too good to be true or unrealistic. for example, like XRP which has a total supply of almost 100Billion coins and already has 38.739Billion in circulation, someone predicts that the price of XRP could reach $500 which is very impossible, unrealistic and it wouldn't happen even in the future. for me, it's only speculation so let's leave it that way.  


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: imstillthebest on December 09, 2020, 01:20:54 PM
they dont need bother checking the market if they are only going to predict coins that are btc and eth . both of this coins are the peoples choice when it comes to insane and crazy predictions .
 a few threads that have predictions for undervalued coins but price prediction are not that high , thats not a big deal and its hard to tell if they check that coins market cap or not .
if there are terms that people dont understand we have a google to solve that but theres also people that choose to be lazy


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 09, 2020, 01:25:49 PM
A lot are just simply shilling the shitcoins which they own. Many of them are not just shilling with bases, they tend to exaggerate everything as if all of the users here are kind of stupid like them to just accept their crazy predictions and start to buy or hodl.

It is true that many are not even aware how much in total supply their shitcoins are and why their price predictions are crazy impossible because if they happen their shitcoin's market cap will even exceed that of Bitcoin's.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: yazher on December 09, 2020, 01:41:44 PM
Marketcap is a very simple formula

Marketcap = number of coins * price of coins

Instead of coins, you can use "number of stocks" for companies, to know the market value of a company

This is a simple formula and I don't know why most people don't understand it. The market cap will determine the value of coins and their popularity. When its market became less valuable and the demands become low, then it's volume will become useless.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: mikelpol on December 09, 2020, 01:48:28 PM
Some people think that the same xrp may cost $ 10 per coin, but at the moment this is simply impossible, since in this case its capitalization will be greater than that of Bitcoin. It is very important to understand how capitalization works.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: iv4n on December 09, 2020, 01:59:04 PM
I am sure many people don't understand basic stuff! Then add a lot of people who know basics and little over that and the ones that left are experts in their field, and you don't have many of them!
About crypto marketcap and how it's being calculated and manipulated you can read more in "old threads". Search for them here on forum and you will read what some trusted and well-educated members of this forum have to say about it!
The most important part don't fully trust market caps, and sites that offer info about that! Use it only for basic informational purposes!


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: PiousFox on December 10, 2020, 03:19:05 AM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?

You really can't blame them. They're just trying to hype their project to an absurd number so that more investors try to invest in them. Just ignore them since there's not one rational person would listen to them, at least more investors don't.

totally agree, if you check this thread omg its crazy how many people trying to sell insane numbers


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: MCobian on December 10, 2020, 04:04:59 AM
The term market cap is widely used in the investment world, because market cap describes the value of a project or company.
The market cap in the cryptocurrency world shows the overall price of a project. How to calculate the market cap by multiplying
the number of coins in circulation by the price of coins in the market. So the greater the market cap price, the more valuable
the coin. Of course, the biggest market cap in the cryptocurrency world today is Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: aryana42 on December 10, 2020, 10:49:18 AM
totally agree, if you check this thread omg its crazy how many people trying to sell insane numbers
What crazy number do you mean by that? because what I know the people who are in crypto are smart and sane people, so obviously they are all not crazy when doing their jobs here.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: sana54210 on December 10, 2020, 01:36:03 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?
Unfortunately man don't understand what it should mean, or at least what it should mean in trading world. I have seen plenty of people talk about "this coin is only 1 cent, if it goes to only 2 cents we will double our money!!" and don't really understand how that is nearly impossible if the people who are involved do not buy it the same way it could make double for any other coin.

The logic of a coin with marketcap of 100 million dollars and a price of 10 cents versus a coin that has 200 million dollars marketcap and 1 cents means that the one with 10 cents can go to 20 cents easier than the other one going from 1 cent to 2 cents. However it is very difficult to explain this to people, they still look at the price more than they look at the market cap to this day.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: crwth on December 10, 2020, 01:44:05 PM
In essence, you could really achieve some portion of it with whatever you like, as long as there are buyers and market makers with that kind of ability then I think it's okay. Maybe you are talking about super absurd prices that have exceeded the amount of money in the whole world. Is that what you mean? I'm making sure that you understand as well that there's a difference between the money circulating and the money that is invested in the whole world. A lot of money now is invested in either derivatives, futures, stocks, etc. and some of it exceeds the circulating money in terms of market caps.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: gwdf1 on December 11, 2020, 08:54:14 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?

Cryptocurrency is self – sufficient-it is not linked to any material values or currencies whose value is not formed on the basis of other indicators.
The exchange rate and capitalization of cryptocurrencies are related, but different in meaning. The exchange rate affects the capitalization – the higher the value of the cryptocurrency, the greater its market capitalization will be.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: NextDoor125 on December 29, 2020, 05:06:08 AM
I appreciate with you, A investor need a minimum knowledge about the coin market circle. That means the coinmarketcap how with work coins or tokens. I saw many investors to predict prices of some tokens or coins specially before listing is very much unrealistic.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: sangkler11 on December 29, 2020, 05:24:40 AM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?
What is the meaning of market cap in cryptocurrency? In cryptocurrency, the market cap is the total number of coins that are on the market multiplied by the coins current price, and in cryptocurrency there is a max supply and circulating supply.
with this way you can calculate the market cap of a coin or token.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: FlagstaffRevel235 on December 30, 2020, 10:41:58 AM
The coin Market cap is a metric for having an idea about the values of a cryptocurrency but also just by knowing the market cap, you never really can make an accurate assessment of the value of the coin. There are a few other facts too. We can say the number of total units unit multiplied by the value of each unit is the market cap.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: so98nn on December 30, 2020, 11:06:04 AM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?
If I am not wrong then its very simple if you want to check value of company then we have to check its cap because this will help us about company size and value even its not enough but I can hope now you understand what is market cap.

I mean lets say a coin has emitted 1 billion coins and people say each coin will be worth $500 dollars that gives that coin a $500 billion market cap which makes no sense

You will need to calculate per coin price by assuming the complete market cap is equal to number of coins multiplied current stable price. Or vice versa is also true. I am not sure but in crypto also there has to be basic valuation of the whole project where the asset value is decided based on expenses to run the project.

For example, there has to be reserve fund which supports the minimum price of the project. So market cap will constitute of actual cost of coin and reserve funds for the same.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: LostConfidence243 on January 16, 2021, 10:44:07 AM
The term "market-cap" is widely used in the investment world because market cap determines the value of a project or organization. The market-cap in the cryptocurrency world shows the overall price of a project. How to calculate the market cap. Multiply the coin value by the number of coins in the market so the higher the market cap price, the more valuable the coin. Of course, the biggest market cap in the cryptocurrency world today is Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: atjiat on February 10, 2021, 12:19:30 PM
I believe that for a user of a cryptocurrency, it is not the very fact of the market capitalization of a cryptocurrency that is very important, but we will kill its changes. it is thanks to the indicator of changes in capitalization that it is possible to determine the percentage of growth or decline in the investment attractiveness of a cryptocurrency. But nevertheless, a very important addition to the assessment of coins is the trading volumes, and only in the aggregate of these parameters a trader or investor will receive an overall picture of what is happening in the market.


Title: Re: Do people understand what market cap is?
Post by: Jackl87 on February 10, 2021, 03:57:27 PM
I been reading some of the threads here and what not and I see people predicating crazy prices in the hundreds for cyrptos (if some of them could even be called that) with billions of coins emitted that run 8 pages deep as if people have no idea how market cap works?

Most of the time if you read stuff like "this coin will easily be at 100$ in a month" when the coin is at 0,1 or so at the moment than you can be 99% sure that this post was made by a bagholder of that coin who wants people to FOMO into his project.
If you are a veteran of this forum you can just laugh about stuff like that, but for every newbie i really hope they don't fall for stuff like that. And yeah the most funny ones are those that predict prices for a unknown project that would result in a higher market cap than ETH or even BTC.  :D