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Title: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Awaklara on December 11, 2020, 04:27:02 PM
The ICO craze has enabled a lot of these developers to just march out on their own and start coding, make a website, answer telegram questions etc etc, all the while thinking that they are doing something truly unique. They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product. A product needs marketing, advertisement and all that shit. Yet, the problem with most of these so-called undervalued, good devs is that they all think they are on to something unique. It is impossible for everyone to be a Satoshi or a Bill Gates and make a business from scratch simply on the basis of the novelty and brilliance of their ideas. The echo chambers of their telegram/ Reddit groups makes it all the more easier to fall for this narrative.

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 11, 2020, 07:58:10 PM
The success of a project does not depend on the developer alone mate, if it does, then there will be a lot of successful projects cus I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose,
The success of a project is tied to Many factors and this factors are all focused on one common goal, "success of the project", if one part does its job well and the other part fail in its duties, there's a chance the project might still end up a failure, and to give you a hint of what I mean, community is very essential to the success of any project just like the developers is.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: bitmover on December 11, 2020, 08:13:07 PM
The success of a project does not depend on the developer alone mate, if it does, then there will be a lot of successful projects cus I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose,

It is naive to think developers can make successful project alone.
You need marketing, administrators,  public relationships,  someone to write the whitepaper, etc

You need different knowledge from different fields. There is no one man or one profession project.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Slingshot on December 11, 2020, 09:14:04 PM
Wwl anything that has to so with crypto comes in phase...I won't say ICO is dead because it my surface next year and dedi aag will just die off or still remain same. I feel ICO will resurface more than ieo but in another dimension that would atteaxtpre investors. Let's wait and see what 2021 will unfold but I feel ICO isn't dead for now
 


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: optimisticcm on December 11, 2020, 09:15:57 PM
The ICO craze has enabled a lot of these developers to just march out on their own and start coding, make a website, answer telegram questions etc etc, all the while thinking that they are doing something truly unique. They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product. A product needs marketing, advertisement and all that shit. Yet, the problem with most of these so-called undervalued, good devs is that they all think they are on to something unique. It is impossible for everyone to be a Satoshi or a Bill Gates and make a business from scratch simply on the basis of the novelty and brilliance of their ideas. The echo chambers of their telegram/ Reddit groups makes it all the more easier to fall for this narrative.

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.
I do agree to the fact that after the quality development it is the marketing side that adds big time to the success of a new project. I have seen great quality projects that struggle in the market just because of low or no marketing, sometimes the marketing is not targetted as it should be so a marketing strategy should be deployed. As we have seen that crypto market is sensitive and volatile and it can quickly provide the much needed hype and fomo that can result in huge demand and value gain.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: DoubleAweSeven on December 12, 2020, 03:29:09 AM
Your title and the content of your post contradicts themselves because you're saying that "The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!" but contradicted it by saying "They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product" which doesn't really depend on the developers, in fact, this section isn't being handled by the developers, it's being handled by different departments of the project team.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on December 12, 2020, 03:51:27 AM
Your title and the content of your post contradicts themselves because you're saying that "The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!" but contradicted it by saying "They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product" which doesn't really depend on the developers, in fact, this section isn't being handled by the developers, it's being handled by different departments of the project team.
Who will create a product if it's not the developer itself? All of the components in the project started from the team as the main resource to build the project. The team itself will determine where the project will be going on and what product they will be created. I think that the word of developers already included in all of the components in the team.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: pakhitheboss on December 12, 2020, 04:55:21 AM
As per my understanding any project can be made successful if a team is properly coordinating the project and have a unique product. A developer is the person responsible for creating, maintaining and upgradation of the project. He also needs a team of professionals who can market it, manage it and create awareness about it. I have been part of some unsuccessful ans successful project and the only thing that make a project successful it the coordination between teams. So, blaming only the developer for the downfall of a particular does not make any sense.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Strongkored on December 12, 2020, 05:58:20 AM
There are many factors that can make a project successful, not only developers, there need good promotions to, and in my opinion what is no less important is whether the product being offered is something useful and really needed in the real world.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: RussianEnglishTranslation on December 12, 2020, 06:01:24 AM
The ICO craze has enabled a lot of these developers to just march out on their own and start coding, make a website, answer telegram questions etc etc, all the while thinking that they are doing something truly unique. They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product. A product needs marketing, advertisement and all that shit. Yet, the problem with most of these so-called undervalued, good devs is that they all think they are on to something unique. It is impossible for everyone to be a Satoshi or a Bill Gates and make a business from scratch simply on the basis of the novelty and brilliance of their ideas. The echo chambers of their telegram/ Reddit groups makes it all the more easier to fall for this narrative.

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.

It takes more than good technology to start a cryptocurrency project, you also need a good community, good leadership, a use case that can produce profit, and good tokenomics. Most projects don't make it because they failed at one of the for-mentioned points, or were just a money grab from the start. That's why I invest in POW projects with no dev wallet and no ICO/IEO/Liquidity Event etc., like 0xMR and RVN. Projects that don't raise money and don't control user funds:

A. Cannot dump tokens on investors
B. Cannot exit scam with your funds
C. Have to build something of value to earn income


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Maxstl007 on December 12, 2020, 06:02:51 AM
The ICO craze has enabled a lot of these developers to just march out on their own and start coding, make a website, answer telegram questions etc etc, all the while thinking that they are doing something truly unique. They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product. A product needs marketing, advertisement and all that shit. Yet, the problem with most of these so-called undervalued, good devs is that they all think they are on to something unique. It is impossible for everyone to be a Satoshi or a Bill Gates and make a business from scratch simply on the basis of the novelty and brilliance of their ideas. The echo chambers of their telegram/ Reddit groups makes it all the more easier to fall for this narrative.

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.
Every developers never forget that they are in for business because they are here to make money too even when they have good product to offer, the difference is there is bad business and good business, we have different type of developers in crypto space and all they can give us is promises, there is no way to know which dev will be serious or not that's why many projects have short life span


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Maxstl007 on December 12, 2020, 06:04:31 AM
I think there are several factors that determine the success of a project if we are being frank with one another, but if the foundation and basics of a project is wrong, it will not succeed which is why I agree with you that the project developer determines if we have a successful product, token or another token that ends up without any use or value.
The product have to be good enough cos that's what draws investors nearer, I believe that's all that matters for the project to become successful, also the developers must be addictive to the project, the zeal of wanting the project to be successful must be present too.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Banulit on December 12, 2020, 06:28:19 AM
There are several factors affecting the success rate of new project but without any arguement this correct. For a project to be successful in this crypto-industry the developer and its team must be fully equip on every needed aspect that they must need and have in order to perform well in creating a successful project. Project developer must also have an expertise in their field of work especially in the crypto-industry to compete with other potential new project and for them to have a successful project itself.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Claudio99 on December 12, 2020, 06:30:43 AM
I don't accept your point completely OP, if a new project have a new solid utility or product and lacks professional developers there will be a problem, if a new project have good use case but have less funds for development there will be a problem, good use case isn't the only thing needed for a project to be successful, there is more


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Genemind on December 12, 2020, 06:55:08 AM
The success of a project does not depend on the developer alone mate, if it does, then there will be a lot of successful projects cus I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose,
The success of a project is tied to many factors and these factors are all focused on one common goal, "the success of the project" if one part does its job well and the other party fails in its duties, there's a chance the project might still end up a failure, and to give you a hint of what I mean, the community is very essential to the success of any project just like the developers is.

This is a good addition to OPs post. I agree on developers having a major role in the success of the project. Marketing, project development, etc. but there are smaller factors to this, investors or their community plays a huge part as well, if they only see a project as a money-making tool, eventually they will leave it without a second thought once they have reached their goal, which is to earn.  Any substantial growth to a projects market price will help the project to develop it further, so if investors leave and the price starts falling everything else follows.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: kayvie on December 12, 2020, 07:03:59 AM
I do agree with this, the developer has a big factor in the success of the project. Whether they will have a solid goal and will stand on their goal until the end will be up to them. But aside from the developers, the community is a plus factor, if the project itself has no enough supporters then there is no way that the project will be known by many investors.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: michellee on December 12, 2020, 07:10:29 AM
I think the projects' success will depend on the developer with all teams inside the project, and they need to work hard and make sure that they can reach every phase or goals for their projects. It is not just a single person who works, but it's related to all people involved in the project, and all of them are responsible for making the project succeed. If one of them can not work hard, then the project can fail and it will get a hard time to continue. Many projects failed because there is a lack of communication between each team. Maybe it's because of the misunderstanding between them.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Jeger.Kiting on December 12, 2020, 07:10:39 AM
Your title and the content of your post contradicts themselves because you're saying that "The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!" but contradicted it by saying "They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product" which doesn't really depend on the developers, in fact, this section isn't being handled by the developers, it's being handled by different departments of the project team.
Who will create a product if it's not the developer itself? All of the components in the project started from the team as the main resource to build the project. The team itself will determine where the project will be going on and what product they will be created. I think that the word of developers already included in all of the components in the team.

At least all the developers can give enough confidence to build or find someone who has a large community, at least it will help the growth of the project, but in fact, developers rarely have cooperation with large communities, so I agree with the words that successful projects exist. In the developer's hand, if the developer is not generous to the community it is very difficult for the project to grow, but if the developer is royal to the community then it will work well for the project and lead to success in the future ...


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Anonylz on December 12, 2020, 07:13:04 AM
The success of a project does not depend on the developer alone mate, if it does, then there will be a lot of successful projects cus I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose,
The success of a project is tied to Many factors and this factors are all focused on one common goal, "success of the project", if one part does its job well and the other part fail in its duties, there's a chance the project might still end up a failure, and to give you a hint of what I mean, community is very essential to the success of any project just like the developers is.

I disagree on the statement " I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose" why! Because to me it seems you are including those scammers in the equation,  

Those developers with the intention to succeed will work hard together with the support of their supporters to see the project succeed,
That school of thought does not applies to those scumbags who develop a project solely to scam investors on a short term period,

Developers are of different category, you separate the good from the bad, not making a general statement that will classify all as same, because they are not.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Wingsbtc on December 12, 2020, 07:27:29 AM
The ICO craze has enabled a lot of these developers to just march out on their own and start coding, make a website, answer telegram questions etc etc, all the while thinking that they are doing something truly unique. They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product. A product needs marketing, advertisement and all that shit. Yet, the problem with most of these so-called undervalued, good devs is that they all think they are on to something unique. It is impossible for everyone to be a Satoshi or a Bill Gates and make a business from scratch simply on the basis of the novelty and brilliance of their ideas. The echo chambers of their telegram/ Reddit groups makes it all the more easier to fall for this narrative.

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.
Mate there are three types of developers in crypto space

1. The qualified ones that have aims of showing what they are made of, they Introduce no nonsense projects and they are ready to push the project to its success
2. The developers who aren't professionals but want to give a try, they can bring anyhow use cases, most times they introduce something that isn't needed in crypto space, this may probably drag them down
3. Developers that are scammers in disguise, they have no other intent but to scam investors, they can also bring attractive projects to make the fooling charm works perfectly on investors, some even find copy cating more easier, just copy the popular project idea and give a different name

If a developer can't come up with own idea he or she shouldn't bring up a blockchain project.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: angrybirdy on December 12, 2020, 07:31:49 AM
The success of the project will not always depend on the developer. Why? There are so many things they need to consider, not just marketing, building up the roadmap, their product, their community, etc. These are only a few things that form a project, not only the developer.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: MUG1WARA on December 12, 2020, 07:36:18 AM
project development without proper promotion and advertising will certainly not be able to succeed the project, the most important thing in the success of the project is to make their products acceptable in the community and widely used by everyone in the real world


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: gabbie2010 on December 12, 2020, 08:18:49 AM
The success of the project will not always depend on the developer. Why? There are so many things they need to consider, not just marketing, building up the roadmap, their product, their community, etc. These are only a few things that form a project, not only the developer.
I agreed with with summation however its very unfortunate that some developers abandoned their projects midway into their roadmap reasons known to them, take a look at the numbers of projects since 2017 till date and check the abandoned ones by their developers outweighs the others factors considered, developers are like the engine that moves the wagons such as marketing, products, promotions e.t.c once the engine breaks down hadly would the factors that needed for the project will cease to work or operate this project become unsuccessful.   


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: erikoy on December 12, 2020, 08:24:06 AM
In my opinion the success of the project depend on how great the idea of the project was and the marketing of the said project. All project can work out if the funds being gathered are enough to start the project implement it and that the one handling the project are good. Yet, most of the one that are handling projects are usually get attracted by the money and then probably running it away together with the team just like robbing from its investors. This is most the case that is happening in every ICO and no way now that investors will going to believe in it except for the new comers. This is why as a member of this forum in every posts I made I usually include in my post the awareness of the reality that has happening in those ICO projects that are almost all of it are scam and are failing and that no one is believing that it could do great.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Greatdev on December 12, 2020, 09:38:55 AM
Capabilities, reputation, credibility, Zeal, all this have to be present in a developers to achieve success in crypto space today because it's not that easy to get the attention needed for your new project, investors don't just invest on new projects anymore unless they are newbies to crypto and now that ICO have lost its trust to IEO investors prefer IEOs from top exchanges


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Farma on December 12, 2020, 09:45:59 AM
The development of a project is indeed one of the aspects that determine a project's success, but depending on that alone, a project will never be successful. however, developers need to look at important aspects in attracting investors, such as promotions, marketing, products that are still useful, and different from others, and many more. however, people will not only see the development of a project, but how useful the project is to users or investors. developing a project that is not very attractive is a waste of time for the developer.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: New_order on December 12, 2020, 09:51:36 AM
Apart from scammers that pretend to be developers we have many new developers that are lazy, they only want to make money and stop working on the project, crypto space lacks serious developers and since there is no way to make developers face some screening we won't know who really have blockchain technology experience or not


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: kpierce77 on December 12, 2020, 10:01:41 AM
I think there is something we have to understand here. Isn't coding or development done after determining the product or goal of a project? if they are just bragging and don't show any solution, meaning they don't have a real use case, I'm sure the project will just end up as shitcoin. and for a quality project, I'm sure they won't easily do something without a clear purpose. determine the solution and also the product first then run the project correctly


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Bitbtc8 on December 12, 2020, 10:10:29 AM
Many projects will introduce good use cases but the teams aren't ready to back the project up, they just want to use the use case to lure investors, people understands the different between quality projects and bad projects today but scammers are ready to give people quality use cases too, it's why I prefer taking risks with projects that plans to use top exchanges for IEO, they can't scam people are run away without hunting them down


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: sayaya17 on December 12, 2020, 01:01:18 PM
Developer team is the most essential part of a cryptocurrency project. So they often relate the failure and success of a project to the developer.
The development team has a vital responsibility to the project. Where they have to work on target, if not, cryptocurrencies cannot thrive.
Most times, the cause of the failure of a cryptocurrency project is because the developer team is no longer pursuing the original goal of the project
being worked on. So, the crypto project condition is not powerful enough.
Now there are many types of cryptocurrencies, and new projects are emerging, and competing to get as many users as possible.



Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: VDraci on December 12, 2020, 01:06:22 PM
Developers should keep working on new products or fresh utilities but instead many of them are repeating same old use cases we've seen a hundred times before, it's becoming tiring this days, I'm only moved by what is fresh and brand new or I'm better off with old crypto projects


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: nrvasquez on December 12, 2020, 01:41:09 PM
Developers should keep working on new products or fresh utilities but instead many of them are repeating same old use cases we've seen a hundred times before, it's becoming tiring this days, I'm only moved by what is fresh and brand new or I'm better off with old crypto projects
I'm sure this is going to be an old trend in a moment, and investors won't be that foolish to invest in copycat projects that rely solely on a certain trend. now the market has grown quite well where bad projects will get rid of themselves and at best will become shitcoin if they enter the exchange


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: cassavachips on December 12, 2020, 02:07:28 PM
That is one of the keys to building an extraordinary project. Many things must be done, one of which is having a strong community. But most projects today don't dare to use a large chunk of investor's money actually to do something extraordinary. They should be doing it because that's what investors and the community expect.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: zidanw on December 12, 2020, 02:17:36 PM
The ICO craze has enabled a lot of these developers to just march out on their own and start coding, make a website, answer telegram questions etc etc, all the while thinking that they are doing something truly unique. They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product. A product needs marketing, advertisement and all that shit. Yet, the problem with most of these so-called undervalued, good devs is that they all think they are on to something unique. It is impossible for everyone to be a Satoshi or a Bill Gates and make a business from scratch simply on the basis of the novelty and brilliance of their ideas. The echo chambers of their telegram/ Reddit groups makes it all the more easier to fall for this narrative.

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.

Honestly if the project is serious and real I think that's not problem if they are active in telegram and marketing since it should be that way for what I know there are different groups in a company marketing, the developers, etc.

It's true that the team really need to have a good product in the end since it's the one matters.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Marble777 on December 12, 2020, 02:28:29 PM
yes, the developer is important in a project. However, the success of a project is not only due to the developer but also due to several teams from the project itself. they are also involved because they are also part of the project team i.e. marketing and everything so that the project can actually attract investment in the market.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: hatshepsut93 on December 12, 2020, 04:31:29 PM
There's no such thing as "success" for altcoins, there's just a couple of altcoins that can be considered not total failures, like Ethereum or Monero. The rest is just garbage, no one uses them, no one will use them, the fact that their price have increased since their release is irrelevant, because eventually it will fall to zero. The world doesn't need even these hundreds and thousands of cryptocurrencies, so they are just bound to die at some point.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Chuky92 on December 12, 2020, 07:03:50 PM
I agree with you to an extent. First the success of a project depends to a great extent on the team, that is, talking about idea, it is still the team that will bring it up, and keep working on it to make it worthy, reliable and presentable to both existing and potential investors. Also, talking about the success, one will add the marketing aspect; that is, what level of marketing has the team done towards bringing the project to more people and this is where the community comes in. So, the community needs to support the project in their best capacity because it is always a win win situation for all parties. However, I understand your point, in most projects, once the public sale is over, the team changes and keeps the community in the dark, thus leading to abandonment by the community. But nevertheless, in my own opinion, the success of a project depends on both the team and the community, so far the community are given the right attention.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 12, 2020, 10:30:44 PM
The success of a project does not depend on the developer alone mate, if it does, then there will be a lot of successful projects cus I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose,
The success of a project is tied to Many factors and this factors are all focused on one common goal, "success of the project", if one part does its job well and the other part fail in its duties, there's a chance the project might still end up a failure, and to give you a hint of what I mean, community is very essential to the success of any project just like the developers is.

I disagree on the statement " I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose" why! Because to me it seems you are including those scammers in the equation,  

Those developers with the intention to succeed will work hard together with the support of their supporters to see the project succeed,
That school of thought does not applies to those scumbags who develop a project solely to scam investors on a short term period,

Developers are of different category, you separate the good from the bad, not making a general statement that will classify all as same, because they are not.
Well, youve clearly said it yourself, what I said was on a general note, I know that there are many developers out there that start a project with the sole purpose of scamming people and closing the project as soon as their aim is achieved, I didnt want to dive into this details so I made my comment generally based on the serious ones who come into the space with all genuinty.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: dudusix9 on December 13, 2020, 12:28:15 AM
The ICO craze has enabled a lot of these developers to just march out on their own and start coding, make a website, answer telegram questions etc etc, all the while thinking that they are doing something truly unique. They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product. A product needs marketing, advertisement and all that shit. Yet, the problem with most of these so-called undervalued, good devs is that they all think they are on to something unique. It is impossible for everyone to be a Satoshi or a Bill Gates and make a business from scratch simply on the basis of the novelty and brilliance of their ideas. The echo chambers of their telegram/ Reddit groups makes it all the more easier to fall for this narrative.

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.

I agree, I invested in 2 ICO's that had 100% funding (BZNT and LND) and their Telegram channels have closed down (literally one of them did).  Did they not strategically think of what they'll do with more than $10m in funds raised?


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 13, 2020, 01:47:16 AM
Its quite funny that he just created a new account just to post this thread :D.

Anyway to answer the question, the developer/s has a huge role to the success of the project yes but to rely solely on him to make the project successful is somewhat I disagree with. There are many things that affects the success of the project.

There is the project itself. Will the project benefit the people. Will the developers continue to support the project or at least make some development in the future. The community of the project will be a huge factor too because they are considered advertisers of the project and they play a big role towards the success of it. No community = low to no chance of the project to success.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Shasha80 on December 13, 2020, 02:20:39 AM
Although there are many factors that make projects successful, the main key to the success of a project can be seen from
the developer team itself. If from the start the development team only made projects for fundraising purposes, no matter
how good the marketing was, it would end in failure. So, in choosing projects, I always focus on seeing the track record of
the developer team, and also seeing the project goals created. If the project doesn't have a clear purpose and the team
developers don't have a good track record, I will without doubt avoid these projects.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: lxiaoh on December 13, 2020, 08:33:08 AM
There is no denying that good developer does make a big difference to the success of the project,but this is far from enough,it also needs community,market,luck,etc. If one of these  factors do not work well,even it's just a minor defect,might be project would failure.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: JHORN on December 13, 2020, 08:39:51 AM
New products in crypto space are experimental and some developers have to take the giant steps and give them a try to see if they are going to work as intended but when the unexpected happens they have to abandon the project and look else where, what good can you expect from a AI project today? They usually end up a failure and developers have stop trying them out


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Psynthax on December 13, 2020, 08:54:51 AM
I don't accept your point completely OP, if a new project have a new solid utility or product and lacks professional developers there will be a problem, if a new project have good use case but have less funds for development there will be a problem, good use case isn't the only thing needed for a project to be successful, there is more
There are literally thousands of project with really good use case closing down for the simple fact that no one uses their service. Marketing, until now is the most needed thing to get projects building their userbase otherwise these projects aren't gonna generate streams of revenue.
Developers are important but what most important is a project that sells. Even if the project is just a cheap clone or that kind of failed knock-off if it sells well then it's gonna strive forward. It's the hard truth.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: tvplus006 on December 13, 2020, 09:01:22 AM
As per my understanding any project can be made successful if a team is properly coordinating the project and have a unique product. A developer is the person responsible for creating, maintaining and upgradation of the project. He also needs a team of professionals who can market it, manage it and create awareness about it. I have been part of some unsuccessful ans successful project and the only thing that make a project successful it the coordination between teams. So, blaming only the developer for the downfall of a particular does not make any sense.

In order for the project to be successful, along with the uniqueness of the project and a team of professionals, you need money. Big money. And if it is not possible to attract a large investor to the project, then all development plans can remain only on paper.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: FrozenBit on December 13, 2020, 09:13:10 AM
The reality is not so simple, a successful project needs many factors to decide. The Dev issue is very important because they are the builders of it, but the project needs: community, money,... those things are not natural and not any project is guaranteed. As the OP mentioned, Dev will make the project successful, but imagine when their community doesn't support them the products they bring for meaningless reasons .... so look at For a successful project, OP needs to look at things broader.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: KaratX on December 13, 2020, 09:17:14 AM
A project can't rely on one man, one man can't lead a project to stardom on his own, that's why we have team members for every projects in crypto space, they might be very limited in numbers but it's impossible for a man to be the only team member of a project because been a expert in blockchain is in different fields work.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: pedrillo0 on December 13, 2020, 10:36:30 AM
This scenario does not happen only with ICOs!
I see it also in IEO, DeFi or STO. Lack of sufficient experience and knowledge leads to capital losses.
All this plus the scammers who are up to date to steal your money.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: InwardContour on December 13, 2020, 01:11:30 PM
The success of a project does not depend on the developer alone mate, if it does, then there will be a lot of successful projects cus I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose,
The success of a project is tied to Many factors 

I strongly agree with your point, the success of every project depends on combination of many factors and not just the developer. But I disagree with you when you say "no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose", this is because many developers have scam intentions and thus your statement there doesn't fit in. If a developer plans to exit scam let's say after token sales, then he already plans to fail on purpose. By the way, you made great points.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: aryana42 on December 13, 2020, 01:27:04 PM
There is no denying that good developer does make a big difference to the success of the project,but this is far from enough,it also needs community,market,luck,etc. If one of these  factors do not work well,even it's just a minor defect,might be project would failure.
Yes, sometimes a small flaw can also have a big effect on the project which sometimes can make the project fail, but things like that are very rare in a project, because if the team already knows of a minor flaw, they will try to fix it again.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: pealr12 on December 21, 2020, 02:56:40 PM
The success of a project does not depend on the developer alone mate, if it does, then there will be a lot of successful projects cus I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose,
The success of a project is tied to Many factors and this factors are all focused on one common goal, "success of the project", if one part does its job well and the other part fail in its duties, there's a chance the project might still end up a failure, and to give you a hint of what I mean, community is very essential to the success of any project just like the developers is.

I disagree on the statement " I believe no developer wants to start a project and fail on purpose" why! Because to me it seems you are including those scammers in the equation,  

Those developers with the intention to succeed will work hard together with the support of their supporters to see the project succeed,
That school of thought does not applies to those scumbags who develop a project solely to scam investors on a short term period,

Developers are of different category, you separate the good from the bad, not making a general statement that will classify all as same, because they are not.

Very true, not all dev who develop a project have good intention and want to see the project succeed, reason why we have many exit scam and rug pull activities, some dev are just plain greedy, they don't care about investors and what it will do to them if they pull such heist, very selfish to the very core.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: torrantz on December 21, 2020, 03:17:21 PM
There is no denying that good developer does make a big difference to the success of the project,but this is far from enough,it also needs community,market,luck,etc. If one of these  factors do not work well,even it's just a minor defect,might be project would failure.
Yes, sometimes a small flaw can also have a big effect on the project which sometimes can make the project fail, but things like that are very rare in a project, because if the team already knows of a minor flaw, they will try to fix it again.
It's not all of the team know about the minor flaw and did you see how some defi platforms were getting hacked due to the small bug in the flash loan code? The team has been hiring some auditors to audit the code but the scammer can even find then.
The team must be competent to be able to maintain the security of the platform.it can make the project became fail anytime. 


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on December 23, 2020, 07:01:06 PM
There is no denying that good developer does make a big difference to the success of the project,but this is far from enough,it also needs community,market,luck,etc. If one of these  factors do not work well,even it's just a minor defect,might be project would failure.
Yes, sometimes a small flaw can also have a big effect on the project which sometimes can make the project fail, but things like that are very rare in a project, because if the team already knows of a minor flaw, they will try to fix it again.
It's not all of the team know about the minor flaw and did you see how some defi platforms were getting hacked due to the small bug in the flash loan code? The team has been hiring some auditors to audit the code but the scammer can even find then.
The team must be competent to be able to maintain the security of the platform.it can make the project became fail anytime. 
Any team or dev that fail to secure their platform/code by removing all bugs before the hackers finds them isn't serious about the project in the first place, probably, they want to stay for a little time, gather some money and run away, any serious team that plan to stay in the space for a very long time will take all necessary actions to making sure their platform is well secured from bugs and hacks.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: mezzaluna on December 23, 2020, 07:16:21 PM

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.

This should really be the mindset of most project developers right now. Its important to have future plans and not just the ability to launch their platform. A working platform is good but a platform with future developments are the best thing which would result into more usage and increase in credibility. Its a challenge for most developers but some platforms really pushes through so that they can give the best to their supporters.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: ololajulo on December 23, 2020, 08:42:21 PM
Am always of the opinion that team or developers are the most important factor of a project. There is no reason for project that does not serve a purpose or meet a need but when a developer see a need a build a solution to fit it. There are many exchange why is binance doing better, same with Satoshi, Vitalik, Justin, Brian armstrong; they make most of the decisions that determine the success of the project. Whenever I see project with developer that has/have strong track record, I know he has better chances to succeed.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: articlecity on December 23, 2020, 08:46:53 PM
The ICO craze has enabled a lot of these developers to just march out on their own and start coding, make a website, answer telegram questions etc etc, all the while thinking that they are doing something truly unique. They forget that at the end it is a business and they need a product. A product needs marketing, advertisement and all that shit. Yet, the problem with most of these so-called undervalued, good devs is that they all think they are on to something unique. It is impossible for everyone to be a Satoshi or a Bill Gates and make a business from scratch simply on the basis of the novelty and brilliance of their ideas. The echo chambers of their telegram/ Reddit groups makes it all the more easier to fall for this narrative.

They all could do much better only if they used some business sense and actually invested in marketing their product, meeting potential clients and just run an actual business.
Developers with real projects need to get out of their comfort zones and go out in search of theor potential market, partners and new ways to attract userbase and business as if you develop a quality product but no one knows about it and no one uses it will make it useless.


Title: Re: The success of the project depends on the project developer himself!
Post by: Eddyc on December 24, 2020, 01:51:51 PM
Yes, this is exactly what investors and supporters must know and understand to avoid falling into a trap and making the right investment. Nowadays what counts is the willpower of the developer to reach any level of quality. Thus Marketing, team and community is the consequence of the developer's will.