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Title: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: JTripathy on December 12, 2020, 10:54:45 PM
I saw so many Mobile applications, youtube videos where i saw that people are doing mining through the mobile phone! Is it real? What's the logic behind this?
According to my thinking... How is it possible to do mining through mobile phones?? There are so any powerful hardware.. Then people do mining in mobile phone through apps.. 🤔🤔🤔🤔


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: miner29 on December 12, 2020, 11:38:19 PM
its not worth anything.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: Twinkledoe on December 12, 2020, 11:41:56 PM
Yes, it is possible but don't think it is worth right now. Check the pi project. Their installs is more than 10M already, and the reviews are quite mix. And don't know if they are already listed in exchanges.

https://minepi.com/


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: adaseb on December 13, 2020, 04:30:05 AM
No the mining isn’t real. There was some popular coin in the past, I think it was called like Einsteinium or something like that. Basically it was fake mining but you got paid rewards anyways. It was pretty popular actually. However in the real world, you just cannot make a coin that is purely based on proof of work using mobile devices.

Reason is security. A phone is very low power and doesn’t really have much computation compared to a high end intel or amd processor. Hence one high end processor can emulate maybe hundreds of phones. And someone can easily rent some AWS servers and do a 51% attack and the coin would be in trouble. Hence why it’s been over 10 years of Bitcoin and there hasn’t been a single POW algo based on mobile devices.

Another reason is safety. If you mined 100% on your phone, you would cause it to overheat and might damage something or heat up the battery and start a fire.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: Claudio99 on December 13, 2020, 06:38:03 AM
Mining on phones can never be real because phone components aren't built to withstand heavy heats which of cos will generate heats if you plan to mine with your phone, do not be deceived by those few projects showing mining through a app, it's not real mining, it's called cloud mining instead, you are mining through the project server but the team will want people to think it's real mining


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: Bitbtc8 on December 13, 2020, 11:51:18 AM
I saw so many Mobile applications, youtube videos where i saw that people are doing mining through the mobile phone! Is it real? What's the logic behind this?
According to my thinking... How is it possible to do mining through mobile phones?? There are so any powerful hardware.. Then people do mining in mobile phone through apps.. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
They are cloud base mining, the smartphone hardware won't be stressed out like when mining with a computer or graphic cards, the mobile miner will work like a mobile game or like every other apps, the logic looks like a real mining process but it's cloud mining


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: miner29 on December 13, 2020, 02:29:16 PM
I saw so many Mobile applications, youtube videos where i saw that people are doing mining through the mobile phone! Is it real? What's the logic behind this?
According to my thinking... How is it possible to do mining through mobile phones?? There are so any powerful hardware.. Then people do mining in mobile phone through apps.. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
They are cloud base mining, the smartphone hardware won't be stressed out like when mining with a computer or graphic cards, the mobile miner will work like a mobile game or like every other apps, the logic looks like a real mining process but it's cloud mining

Cloud based mining is a scam and not real.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: Ryushin on December 13, 2020, 06:43:00 PM
I saw so many Mobile applications, youtube videos where i saw that people are doing mining through the mobile phone! Is it real? What's the logic behind this?
According to my thinking... How is it possible to do mining through mobile phones?? There are so any powerful hardware.. Then people do mining in mobile phone through apps.. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
They are cloud base mining, the smartphone hardware won't be stressed out like when mining with a computer or graphic cards, the mobile miner will work like a mobile game or like every other apps, the logic looks like a real mining process but it's cloud mining
Even the so called cloud mining is fake, many cloud mining companies in 2017 exit scam on their investors, they lies to investors that they have real mining equipments but they don't have any, all they do is using others money or assets to pay others, it's Ponzi in disguise


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: OasisDre on December 13, 2020, 06:58:14 PM
Many altcoins used mobile mining in the past and it doesn't favour them, they end up removing the whole mobile idea and focus on normal proof of work algorithm with CPU and GPU, Electroneum is a good example of such project that quit on mobile mining, it's a waste of time I guess.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: UserU on December 14, 2020, 04:16:18 AM
Actually phones can mine, just that the processing power is too weak for feasible returns. For those XYZ coins, possible but never for the established ones like ETH.



Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: coinriches on December 14, 2020, 08:21:02 AM
In my opinion, it doesn't have to be Proof-Of-Work mining before its profitable. As all PoW mining require more than the basics accommodated by a phone's make up, your best bet to mining profitably on your precious mobile is Proo-Of-Stake mining.

Very simple too. Just download the requisite wallet app, procure some coins off exchanges and send to it and.... You're mining happily away.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: Whiskey Jar on December 14, 2020, 10:05:13 AM
I saw so many Mobile applications, youtube videos where i saw that people are doing mining through the mobile phone! Is it real? What's the logic behind this?
According to my thinking... How is it possible to do mining through mobile phones?? There are so any powerful hardware.. Then people do mining in mobile phone through apps.. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

I think people should be able to mine coins on their 1200$ iphones... The only problem is that smartphones are too busy spying on you so they have no cpu power left to actually mine coins  ;D


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: FP91G on December 14, 2020, 04:18:36 PM
I saw so many Mobile applications, youtube videos where i saw that people are doing mining through the mobile phone! Is it real? What's the logic behind this?
According to my thinking... How is it possible to do mining through mobile phones?? There are so any powerful hardware.. Then people do mining in mobile phone through apps.. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
I don’t know a single miner who does this.
This is a POS mining or a new shitcoin scam.
Beware of such projects, because you will definitely not earn profit there.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: Galley on December 17, 2020, 04:59:59 PM
Mining on the phone is a kind of visual deception, some kind of fiction. Not every computer is designed for mining, much less a phone. It will simply melt from the load on the CPU. Cloud mining is just a scam.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: cyop on December 18, 2020, 03:16:23 PM
xbtx, upx and vrsc are mineable PoW coins on ARM architecture right now!


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: miner29 on December 18, 2020, 05:47:26 PM
xbtx, upx and vrsc are mineable PoW coins on ARM architecture right now!

So what mining on a phone is a terrible idea both from a hardware point of view and from an earnings point of view.

Those that insist phone mining is real and profitable can never show either actually.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: cyop on December 19, 2020, 01:53:24 AM
So what mining on a phone is a terrible idea both from a hardware point of view and from an earnings point of view.

Those that insist phone mining is real and profitable can never show either actually.

for reference:
Samsung A50 - 3 Mh/s (same as GTX 1060)
Ryzen 5 1600 - 12 Mh/s
RTX 3090 - 23 Mh/s
on veruscoin.



Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: miner29 on December 19, 2020, 02:06:09 AM
So what mining on a phone is a terrible idea both from a hardware point of view and from an earnings point of view.

Those that insist phone mining is real and profitable can never show either actually.

for reference:
Samsung A50 - 3 Mh/s (same as GTX 1060)
Ryzen 5 1600 - 12 Mh/s
RTX 3090 - 23 Mh/s
on veruscoin.



So what are you going to do with the $0.06/day before power..... please do tell.

Why at $21 a year how long will your roi be?  How long will the A50 work at that load?



Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: cyop on December 19, 2020, 07:58:59 AM
So what are you going to do with the $0.06/day before power..... please do tell.

Why at $21 a year how long will your roi be?  How long will the A50 work at that load?

These numbers are for reference only, not mining advice. If u have access to cheap secondhand phones with cracked screens it might do, I personally prefer android TV boxes for mining.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: Inkdull on December 19, 2020, 10:14:56 AM
There is nothing real about mobile mining, it's no lie that the high end smartphones can't handle crypto mining till date, may be possible in future but not today, whatever mining interface you are seeing on an app it's not real mining, it's like using a cloud mining service like orbot or genesis mining services


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: rdluffy on December 19, 2020, 11:33:50 AM
There is nothing real about mobile mining, it's no lie that the high end smartphones can't handle crypto mining till date, may be possible in future but not today, whatever mining interface you are seeing on an app it's not real mining, it's like using a cloud mining service like orbot or genesis mining services

I'm sorry but we have to deal with facts, and the fact is: it's possible to mine on smartphones nowadays
It's profitable or is it worth? Maybe not, but it's possible and real

Look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhMdqHKYp5Q

There's a way, not to simple, but not hard to a person who are used to mining with PCs rigs, to mine Veruscoin for example, on smartphones.

I already tested some "miners" and I remember Electroneum for example, it was only a simulation of mining, to distribute some coins and attracts people to the coin
But now it's real and you can really mining on smartphones

For today, like users already said, maybe worth something if you have some good hardware with cracked screen, or in a near future we can have even more powerful processors and gain some money with a samsung s21 or the next device...

It's in the beginning, could be something in future or not, but it's real and you can test by yourself


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: cyop on December 19, 2020, 12:25:29 PM
It's in the beginning, could be something in future or not, but it's real and you can test by yourself

Apple ARM cpu is a success sort of, Microsoft announcing their own ARM cpu, amazon offering ARM cloud servers, so I bet on future PoW-mining on IOTA will be real. These things can be solar powered. I still remember good old days of 2017-2019 mining verium on Zyxel routers with some insane ROI, hope they will come back soon ::)


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: miner29 on December 19, 2020, 02:42:59 PM
So what are you going to do with the $0.06/day before power..... please do tell.

Why at $21 a year how long will your roi be?  How long will the A50 work at that load?

These numbers are for reference only, not mining advice. If u have access to cheap secondhand phones with cracked screens it might do, I personally prefer android TV boxes for mining.

You side stepped the point at most making $0.06 a day with power costs is a terrible idea.  Also the coin you point to has low liquidity.  You can probably make substantially more by collecting aluminum cans on the side of the road.    You can make almost any device mine...but at some point you are just spinning your wheels. The point being is that it maybe fun from a hacking point of view but isnt really going to make you anything.  The coins mined are near worthless and generally difficult to exchange.  If this is your way to make money....expect to be poor.  

But you be you.  Its a terrible way to mine...but nobody can stop you.  Plenty have advised the same but i wouldnt dare stop you from chasing windmills.   ::)


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: cyop on December 19, 2020, 05:03:21 PM
You side stepped the point at most making $0.06 a day with power costs is a terrible idea.  Also the coin you point to has low liquidity.  You can probably make substantially more by collecting aluminum cans on the side of the road.    You can make almost any device mine...but at some point you are just spinning your wheels. The point being is that it maybe fun from a hacking point of view but isnt really going to make you anything.  The coins mined are near worthless and generally difficult to exchange.  If this is your way to make money....expect to be poor.  

But you be you.  Its a terrible way to mine...but nobody can stop you.  Plenty have advised the same but i wouldnt dare stop you from chasing windmills.   ::)

As I said I don't use cellphones primarily for mining and I don't make living by mining, nor would I advise to do so. My point is mobile pow mining is possible. I gave u reference numbers only to show that ARM CPU can compete with a x86 CPU, that's it. How to spend 0.06$ and make a living on mining is irrelevant off-topic.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: miner29 on December 19, 2020, 05:19:08 PM
You side stepped the point at most making $0.06 a day with power costs is a terrible idea.  Also the coin you point to has low liquidity.  You can probably make substantially more by collecting aluminum cans on the side of the road.    You can make almost any device mine...but at some point you are just spinning your wheels. The point being is that it maybe fun from a hacking point of view but isnt really going to make you anything.  The coins mined are near worthless and generally difficult to exchange.  If this is your way to make money....expect to be poor.  

But you be you.  Its a terrible way to mine...but nobody can stop you.  Plenty have advised the same but i wouldnt dare stop you from chasing windmills.   ::)

As I said I don't use cellphones primarily for mining and I don't make living by mining, nor would I advise to do so. My point is mobile pow mining is possible. I gave u reference numbers only to show that ARM CPU can compete with a x86 CPU, that's it. How to spend 0.06$ and make a living on mining is irrelevant off-topic.

I would say the last sentence you wrote is EXACTLY the topic the OP was asking about. 

Technically you can mine with paper and pen.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: cyop on December 19, 2020, 08:08:47 PM
Technically you can mine with paper and pen.

1. You can't install any mining software on paper and pen.
2. Pen and paper can't compete with CPU or GPU, but ARM-based device can.
3. U can build rigs connecting devices together, can u build rigs with pen and paper? no.


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: miner29 on December 19, 2020, 08:29:36 PM
Technically you can mine with paper and pen.

1. You can't install any mining software on paper and pen.
2. Pen and paper can't compete with CPU or GPU, but ARM-based device can.
3. U can build rigs connecting devices together, can u build rigs with pen and paper? no.


1) you dont need software you need mathmatics
2) neither can your phone
3) when did you move that goal post in here....  Go build your rigs of arm proc and phones.  The op asked if its real and what is the logic behind this.  You are answering is it technically possible...which as i stated it is...even with pen and paper it is...sorry you were not educated about math...but yes humans can do math and a pen and paper makes it easier for most humans.  The logic part is where im answering there is none.  It does not make any sense to mine on phone.  Plenty of others with a lot more crediblity than you or i have replied the same.

Phone mining is not a thing.  If it is please show the dollars a day you are making....becuase by every measure i can find its a few pennies if that.





Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: fmz89 on December 20, 2020, 02:04:43 PM
Possible with tegra mobile gpus, run on linux, but not worth it, staking is motr viable on mobile hardware with multi-wallet running on background you need bigger ram, multistaking on hidden coin, most likely there is no documented, you. Need try by your self, if the coin can do multi-stake wallet


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: peekabootoo on December 20, 2020, 09:36:48 PM
uplexa    is mineable on mobile fone,   its currently only 1 sat but its better than nothing, over the past 9 months ive mined 2000 ( on a S9 )  and just left them on an old unused laptop !!  might be worth something in the years to come......      dont over do it with cores and cpu power or your fone may overheat !!  i  use 4 core and 25% cpu...  forgot to say  algo is aimed at fones and cpu's so gpu's etc get no advantage !

goodluck


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: peekabootoo on December 20, 2020, 10:13:05 PM
Technically you can mine with paper and pen.

1. You can't install any mining software on paper and pen.
2. Pen and paper can't compete with CPU or GPU, but ARM-based device can.
3. U can build rigs connecting devices together, can u build rigs with pen and paper? no.


1) you dont need software you need mathmatics
2) neither can your phone
3) when did you move that goal post in here....  Go build your rigs of arm proc and phones.  The op asked if its real and what is the logic behind this.  You are answering is it technically possible...which as i stated it is...even with pen and paper it is...sorry you were not educated about math...but yes humans can do math and a pen and paper makes it easier for most humans.  The logic part is where im answering there is none.  It does not make any sense to mine on phone.  Plenty of others with a lot more crediblity than you or i have replied the same.

Phone mining is not a thing.  If it is please show the dollars a day you are making....becuase by every measure i can find its a few pennies if that.





   a few cents a day is a few cents and depending of where in the world you live may mean life or death !!  yes mining with a fone ! was ! and is still is possible !!  is it worth it !!  thats for your consideration !!  i remember mining dash etc with an old s3 fone !!   ( i paid 75 cents for the miner at the time,  from google play and had a choice of algo's ) ( cant remember the name of it now but it was by a coder known as jesus...  or something along that line )   it did pay for itself many times over !!       good luck in your quest


Title: Re: Is mining in mobile phone Real??
Post by: coinriches on December 21, 2020, 09:40:03 AM
So what are you going to do with the $0.06/day before power..... please do tell.

Why at $21 a year how long will your roi be?  How long will the A50 work at that load?

These numbers are for reference only, not mining advice. If u have access to cheap secondhand phones with cracked screens it might do, I personally prefer android TV boxes for mining.

Pls tell us more about your Android TV mining experience. What model did you use? What coin was is most effective on? How was your returns?