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Title: [SOLVED] Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 20, 2020, 01:33:58 PM
UPDATE: THIS HAS BEEN SOLVED BY ADKINSBET.

I would like to say a big thank you for resolving this for me, and I sincerely apologise for any unfounded allegations I may have made against Adkinsbet.




Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: sujonali1819 on December 20, 2020, 01:57:22 PM
1. I opened an account with Adkinsbet on December 7th, 2020, and I was accepted to register as a player from the United Kingdom.
Proof of registration, showing country of registration: https://imgur.com/a/Js4FgCX
when you took this photo? During registration on 7th Dec? If yes then why actually you took this photo? Did you guess something could be happened like this? Because generally, we don't care about it during registration.
I have visited the site right now and see it does not show the Name of the United Kingdom on the registration page. Do you have some more proof that you really registered under United Kingdom?

It will be good if you make a post on their ann thread by referring to this topic link to get the response first here.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 20, 2020, 02:13:44 PM
1. I opened an account with Adkinsbet on December 7th, 2020, and I was accepted to register as a player from the United Kingdom.
Proof of registration, showing country of registration: https://imgur.com/a/Js4FgCX
when you took this photo? During registration on 7th Dec? If yes then why actually you took this photo? Did you guess something could be happened like this? Because generally, we don't care about it during registration.
I have visited the site right now and see it does not show the Name of the United Kingdom on the registration page. Do you have some more proof that you really registered under United Kingdom?

It will be good if you make a post on their ann thread by referring to this topic link to get the response first here.


I took this photo on December 7th when I registered, exactly for the same reason of using it to protect myself if the bookie decides to remove the country and decide to not pay out. I have been scammed in the past so I always take pictures now. What more proof can I provide that I registered in the UK when I provided a picture of the registration? I have emails from the Adkinsbet confirming that the UK was in fact listed as a country on their registration list, which I am also happy to provide.

I suspect they removed the UK from their registration list last week. They never notified users they registered from the UK that they removed it from their country list.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: sujonali1819 on December 20, 2020, 02:26:57 PM
What more proof can I provide that I registered in the UK when I provided a picture of the registration? I have emails from the Adkinsbet confirming that the UK was in fact listed as a country on their registration list, which I am also happy to provide.
Yes, you provided a photo of your registration page during registration. But it's really very easy to edit it by inspecting. (I am not saying you are lying.) Just ask to provide if anything more proof you have so that it shows strong.

I have already referred this topic on their ann thread to response here. So I think you will get a response about this issue soon.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 20, 2020, 02:35:29 PM
What more proof can I provide that I registered in the UK when I provided a picture of the registration? I have emails from the Adkinsbet confirming that the UK was in fact listed as a country on their registration list, which I am also happy to provide.
Yes, you provided a photo of your registration page during registration. But it's really very easy to edit it by inspecting. (I am not saying you are lying.) Just ask to provide if anything more proof you have so that it shows strong.

I have already referred this topic on their ann thread to response here. So I think you will get a response about this issue soon.

Thank you. Here is further proof in an email from them:

https://imgur.com/a/m4GZgqa

In the email they say, the UK came up "accidentally" and it was "not relevant" that the UK appeared in the country registration list because it was excluded in the Terms and Conditions. However, I dispute this. They allege that it's not in the Terms, so then why is it listed allowing people to register with that country?


As you can see from the email, i NEVER tried to hide my location from them. I used no VPN, I sent them proof of address and Photo ID from the country I registered from. I never tried to lie to them and say I am in another country. I did this in good faith because they had opened registration on their website from the country I am located in.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: Beparanf on December 20, 2020, 02:42:38 PM
What more proof can I provide that I registered in the UK when I provided a picture of the registration? I have emails from the Adkinsbet confirming that the UK was in fact listed as a country on their registration list, which I am also happy to provide.
Yes, you provided a photo of your registration page during registration. But it's really very easy to edit it by inspecting. (I am not saying you are lying.) Just ask to provide if anything more proof you have so that it shows strong.

I have already referred this topic on their ann thread to response here. So I think you will get a response about this issue soon.

Thank you. Here is further proof in an email from them:

https://imgur.com/a/m4GZgqa

In the email they say, the UK came up "accidentally" and it was "not relevant" that the UK appeared in the country registration list because it was excluded in the Terms and Conditions. However, I dispute this. They allege that it's not in the Terms, so then why is it listed allowing people to register with that country?


As you can see from the email, i NEVER tried to hide my location from them. I used no VPN, I sent them proof of address and Photo ID from the country I registered from. I never tried to lie to them and say I am in another country. I did this in good faith because they had opened registration on their website from the country I am located in.

A bit fishy, they should at least let you withdraw your winnings if you just violate there T&C due to country restriction since UK is available country in there option during registration process. Not all users are reading T&C and once they saw there country on registration process, they probably wouldn't read anymore about country restriction.

Unless you have no other violation such as shady transaction and bet. I believe there's something wrong on holding your funds.

EDIT:

Post directly your concern too on there main ANN thread. There representative seems active there.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AdkinsBET on December 20, 2020, 02:49:14 PM
Players are responsible for their own registration. At the time of registration, players could also enter their own country manually. We then adjusted that because there was some confusion about it.
Basically there was the possibility to enter any country in the world.
This user has manually entered United Kingdom himself. Players from the United Kingdom are not allowed, as can be read very clearly in the terms and conditions.
We have also indicated to this player that we are looking into his situation and will contact him later, but sir has no patience.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on December 20, 2020, 02:55:06 PM
Do you actually read the general terms and conditions? If you register, you can still assume that you are aware of the conditions.

Or the first thing you do is see if the country is accepted or not. Clearly indicated in the general terms and conditions. If they didn't have it in the terms and conditions, I would agree.

Adkinsbet has stated this real reasoning very clearly in the conditions. Usually there are 2 solutions, either the user gets his deposit back, or a user's money is completely confiscated.

There have been so many cases about this. Many bookmakers have players who register from a restricted country.


I can see this from their terms, so what is the problem actually? You register from the UK, while this is stated it is prohibited.

Then you have to deal with the consequences.

https://i.imgur.com/YW0dmf1.jpg


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 20, 2020, 02:57:12 PM
Players are responsible for their own registration. At the time of registration, players could also enter their own country manually. We then adjusted that because there was some confusion about it.
Basically there was the possibility to enter any country in the world.
This user has manually entered United Kingdom himself. Players from the United Kingdom are not allowed, as can be read very clearly in the terms and conditions.
We have also indicated to this player that we are looking into his situation and will contact him later, but sir has no patience.

What do you mean players could enter their country manually? That is not true. There was a drop down menu and you could SELECT the country from the dropdown menu. The picture I posted shows this. You can clearly see the arrow on the dropdown menu. There was a list of countries, and I selected the country of residence from the dropdown menu. I did not type in UK manually. I chose this from your pre-loaded list of countries that were available to select on December 7th, 2020. The evidence is there in the picture.

It is unfortunate you are telling me I have no patience. This back and forth has been going on for over five days in private, and I offered to settle this in private if we could come to an agreement. From your last emails you said this would be settled by Saturday 20th December by the latest. Then yesterday you tried to delay settlement further. What more choice am I now left with but to now bring this matter to the community?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 20, 2020, 03:01:12 PM
Do you actually read the general terms and conditions? If you register, you can still assume that you are aware of the conditions.

Or the first thing you do is see if the country is accepted or not. Clearly indicated in the general terms and conditions. If they didn't have it in the terms and conditions, I would agree.

Adkinsbet has stated this real reasoning very clearly in the conditions. Usually there are 2 solutions, either the user gets his deposit back, or a user's money is completely confiscated.

There have been so many cases about this. Many bookmakers have players who register from a restricted country.


I can see this from their terms, so what is the problem actually? You register from the UK, while this is stated it is prohibited.

Then you have to deal with the consequences.

https://i.imgur.com/YW0dmf1.jpg

I dispute that this was in the Terms and Conditions when I registered. I put it to Adkinsbet that the Terms and Conditions was changed when the UK was removed from their dropdown menu. This is my side of the argument.

Also, why dont you make a statement about why I was allowed to register as a UK client in the first place and I was allowed to continue gambling, and received absolutely no notification from Adkinsbet that this was not allowed? You seem to be showing favouritism to them, without acknowledging that they also have certain responsibilities as well. You say no UK users in your TOC apparently, but you have the UK listed as a country you could select when you register? What do you think about that? Try to be impartial like the other comentators, why dont you?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: BTCGOLD on December 20, 2020, 03:04:09 PM
These are serious allegations you are making. I get the impression that you are now editing screenshots to get you right. Do you have a photo of the terms and conditions which would state that the UK is accepted?
As far as I can see it clearly states that you are not allowed to play from the UK.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: codegnome on December 20, 2020, 03:07:40 PM
Do you actually read the general terms and conditions? If you register, you can still assume that you are aware of the conditions.

Or the first thing you do is see if the country is accepted or not. Clearly indicated in the general terms and conditions. If they didn't have it in the terms and conditions, I would agree.

Adkinsbet has stated this real reasoning very clearly in the conditions. Usually there are 2 solutions, either the user gets his deposit back, or a user's money is completely confiscated.

There have been so many cases about this. Many bookmakers have players who register from a restricted country.


I can see this from their terms, so what is the problem actually? You register from the UK, while this is stated it is prohibited.

Then you have to deal with the consequences.

https://i.imgur.com/YW0dmf1.jpg

I dispute that this was in the Terms and Conditions when I registered. I put it to Adkinsbet that the Terms and Conditions was changed when the UK was removed from their dropdown menu. This is my side of the argument.

Also, why dont you make a statement about why I was allowed to register as a UK client in the first place and I was allowed to continue gambling, and received absolutely no notification from Adkinsbet that this was not allowed? You seem to be showing favouritism to them, without acknowledging that they also have certain responsibilities as well. You say no UK users in your TOC apparently, but you have the UK listed as a country you could select when you register? What do you think about that? Try to be impartial like the other comentators, why dont you?


Sorry bleedrules, but you're really doing nonsense now. On the registration list you can still choose your own country, but you cannot confirm it. Big chance are they only adjusted that part.
You should not whine and just better read the terms and conditions. You act like a very unexperienced gambler, who is now trying to let others pay for your mistake.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: cabron on December 20, 2020, 03:09:30 PM
Players are responsible for their own registration. At the time of registration, players could also enter their own country manually. We then adjusted that because there was some confusion about it.
Basically there was the possibility to enter any country in the world.
This user has manually entered United Kingdom himself. Players from the United Kingdom are not allowed, as can be read very clearly in the terms and conditions.
We have also indicated to this player that we are looking into his situation and will contact him later, but sir has no patience.

Can you give an assurance that you will allowmhimto withdraw his LTC?  

Anyone in his situation will really think you have no intention of sending his money back after all, all he has done was just to register from the forbidden country. I'm not sure about that user who can manually input the country name, normally its just a dropdown where we just click to chose.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 20, 2020, 03:09:53 PM
These are serious allegations you are making. I get the impression that you are now editing screenshots to get you right. Do you have a photo of the terms and conditions which would state that the UK is accepted?
As far as I can see it clearly states that you are not allowed to play from the UK.

Saying that I am only now editing screenshots is also a very serious allegation against me. I am not falsifying the registration screenshot. This screenshot was sent to Adkinsbet via email immediately when they closed my account. Listen, in good faith I chose to register with a country they had listed on their country selection menu, I provided resident identification from that country, I never tried to hide my location. I sent valid identification documents to them and so on. I just want this resolved asap because Adkins is giving me a run around.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: sujonali1819 on December 20, 2020, 03:12:01 PM
Basically there was the possibility to enter any country in the world.
That means what the user said is right? I mean registration page showed the United Kingdom and other countries on the registration page?
All good but I can not like this confusion that the restricted countries also show on the registration page. Then what the problem actually from that user end during registration?

Yes, what I can see user already was aware of the conditions, and even he took a photo during reg. But I can not understand why the user mistake to read the terms.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 20, 2020, 03:18:11 PM
Do you actually read the general terms and conditions? If you register, you can still assume that you are aware of the conditions.

Or the first thing you do is see if the country is accepted or not. Clearly indicated in the general terms and conditions. If they didn't have it in the terms and conditions, I would agree.

Adkinsbet has stated this real reasoning very clearly in the conditions. Usually there are 2 solutions, either the user gets his deposit back, or a user's money is completely confiscated.

There have been so many cases about this. Many bookmakers have players who register from a restricted country.


I can see this from their terms, so what is the problem actually? You register from the UK, while this is stated it is prohibited.

Then you have to deal with the consequences.

https://i.imgur.com/YW0dmf1.jpg

I dispute that this was in the Terms and Conditions when I registered. I put it to Adkinsbet that the Terms and Conditions was changed when the UK was removed from their dropdown menu. This is my side of the argument.

Also, why dont you make a statement about why I was allowed to register as a UK client in the first place and I was allowed to continue gambling, and received absolutely no notification from Adkinsbet that this was not allowed? You seem to be showing favouritism to them, without acknowledging that they also have certain responsibilities as well. You say no UK users in your TOC apparently, but you have the UK listed as a country you could select when you register? What do you think about that? Try to be impartial like the other comentators, why dont you?


Sorry bleedrules, but you're really doing nonsense now. On the registration list you can still choose your own country, but you cannot confirm it. Big chance are they only adjusted that part.
You should not whine and just better read the terms and conditions. You act like a very unexperienced gambler, who is now trying to let others pay for your mistake.

Why are you personally insulting me saying i am an unexperienced gambler and i should not whine and read the TOC? If you read what I actually posted up, I am alleging that I was allowed to register from the UK,  and allowed to continue gambling for several days, when no one notified me that the country was prohibited. I am also suggesting that when i read the TOC, there was no mention that the UK was excluded, and this was only changed after i registered.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: MishaYo on December 20, 2020, 03:22:18 PM
The person honestly indicated his country without deception, then began to place bets. And as soon as he won, he started having problems ...

The person took a screenshot because he wanted to do it! why he did it is not discussed at the moment! Also an employee of Adkensbet confirmed this in a letter!

if Adkinsbet made this country available for registration, and then refuses payment due to the country of registration - this is a sneaky cheat from the bookmaker!

The bookmaker's rules can be changed at any time by the bookmaker itself. We do not have All the rules at the time of registration of this person. I can assume that this country was allowed for betting, and then it was removed!

As a result, the client did not break the rules on the day of registration! (if the rules changed later, then this cannot affect past registrations) So Adkinsbet must pay the money in full!


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: ongkok87 on December 20, 2020, 03:33:42 PM
The person honestly indicated his country without deception, then began to place bets. And as soon as he won, he started having problems ...

The person took a screenshot because he wanted to do it! why he did it is not discussed at the moment! Also an employee of Adkensbet confirmed this in a letter!

if Adkinsbet made this country available for registration, and then refuses payment due to the country of registration - this is a sneaky cheat from the bookmaker!

The bookmaker's rules can be changed at any time by the bookmaker itself. We do not have All the rules at the time of registration of this person. I can assume that this country was allowed for betting, and then it was removed!

As a result, the client did not break the rules on the day of registration! (if the rules changed later, then this cannot affect past registrations) So Adkinsbet must pay the money in full!

it is very easy, just read the terms. they did not hide anything in the terms, they give complete transparency  terms indicate very clear that you can not register from the UK.
And by the way, who on earth is going to make a picture from his registration? the fact that he make a photo from that, already indicates that he probably know he can not gamble from the UK
Or he just photoshopped it later.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: ronaldo40 on December 20, 2020, 03:38:12 PM
haha you can really call this scam you take a picture of your registration that already seems that you knew what you were doing and that you are not allowed to play from the uk all sites of the license of curacao refuse the uk and they have it also being in the conditions if you claim that it is not the case, you must come up with evidence and not suggest things. if you register your own at adkinsbet, all allowed countries are available in the list but you can type in any country in the world manually you can also type in that you come from the North Pole and register your own with it but I think they have now removed that I would say to adkinsbet the user refund his deposit or at least the calculation that he has the money back in deposit and close the case i have seen this many times at gambling sites


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: ufaiz50 on December 20, 2020, 03:40:27 PM
Do you actually read the general terms and conditions? If you register, you can still assume that you are aware of the conditions.

Or the first thing you do is see if the country is accepted or not. Clearly indicated in the general terms and conditions. If they didn't have it in the terms and conditions, I would agree.

Adkinsbet has stated this real reasoning very clearly in the conditions. Usually there are 2 solutions, either the user gets his deposit back, or a user's money is completely confiscated.

There have been so many cases about this. Many bookmakers have players who register from a restricted country.


I can see this from their terms, so what is the problem actually? You register from the UK, while this is stated it is prohibited.

Then you have to deal with the consequences.

https://i.imgur.com/YW0dmf1.jpg

Yes, this seems pretty clear.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 20, 2020, 03:42:09 PM
The person honestly indicated his country without deception, then began to place bets. And as soon as he won, he started having problems ...

The person took a screenshot because he wanted to do it! why he did it is not discussed at the moment! Also an employee of Adkensbet confirmed this in a letter!

if Adkinsbet made this country available for registration, and then refuses payment due to the country of registration - this is a sneaky cheat from the bookmaker!

The bookmaker's rules can be changed at any time by the bookmaker itself. We do not have All the rules at the time of registration of this person. I can assume that this country was allowed for betting, and then it was removed!

As a result, the client did not break the rules on the day of registration! (if the rules changed later, then this cannot affect past registrations) So Adkinsbet must pay the money in full!

it is very easy, just read the terms. they did not hide anything in the terms, they give complete transparency  terms indicate very clear that you can not register from the UK.
And by the way, who on earth is going to make a picture from his registration? the fact that he make a photo from that, already indicates that he probably know he can not gamble from the UK
Or he just photoshopped it later.

Are you aware that the terms and conditions could be changed at any time? The terms can be one thing today, and another tomorrow. If you read my allegation, you would see that I am saying I never saw the UK listed as a prohibited country. I made a picture of my registration for my personal records. What exactly is wrong with that? What do you think about them listing a prohibited country in their dropdown menu then?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: imutlinda on December 20, 2020, 04:24:52 PM
You mix things up all the time. You say they changed the terms and conditions, do you have proof of that? As far as I can see, Great Britan and Northern Ireland are banned (together the UK).
You are only talking about your registration list, but that is not binding. The general terms and conditions are binding, do you have a picture of it?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: TGD on December 20, 2020, 04:32:00 PM
Players are responsible for their own registration. At the time of registration, players could also enter their own country manually. We then adjusted that because there was some confusion about it.
Basically there was the possibility to enter any country in the world.
This user has manually entered United Kingdom himself. Players from the United Kingdom are not allowed, as can be read very clearly in the terms and conditions.
We have also indicated to this player that we are looking into his situation and will contact him later, but sir has no patience.

@OP, This statement above by Adkinsbet was very clear. You knew for yourself that your country is restricted before register that's why you screenshot your registration form. You should be patience for your issue to solve by them since you are the one who cause this problem and the admins of the casino already told you that they will fix this.

Just wait for them to fix this issue and lock immediately this scam accusation thread. There is no sense to create this at the first place since they are attending your issue.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: antonviking88 on December 20, 2020, 04:33:50 PM
I can easily vouch for Adkinsbet here, I won quite a lot on their site and its all been paid out.

This is user error, and its typical he would blame the company when he was to lazy to read the terms.
Foolish to come here to try and make a case.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 20, 2020, 05:09:03 PM
@AdkinsBET, have you changed the URL of your Terms & Conditions page?
Code:
https://adkinsbet.com/pages/tac
The current link (above) does not have any archive in the archive.org history except I archived a copy few minutes ago which is this: https://archive.vn/ZIpZ4

Players are responsible for their own registration. At the time of registration, players could also enter their own country manually. We then adjusted that because there was some confusion about it.
Quote
If you wish to use our website, this is not permitted if you are a resident of one of the following countries and their territories: United States of America, France, The Netherlands and countries that form the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Bonaire , Sint Eustatius, Saba, Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten) Australia, Great Britain and Northern
Was this clause on your site before and until 7th December? I am asking because you already said that you have adjusted the county section of the dropdown list.


You need to change the currency too.

https://i.imgur.com/ha11oJN.png

Another question: Do you email your users or anyhow let them know any update on your terms and force them to accept it?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: MishaYo on December 20, 2020, 05:14:40 PM
I can easily vouch for Adkinsbet here, I won quite a lot on their site and its all been paid out.

This is user error, and its typical he would blame the company when he was to lazy to read the terms.
Foolish to come here to try and make a case.

what nonsense are you writing! ?

absolutely all bookmakers, without exception, do not allow registration of players from prohibited regions! ABSOLUTELY ALL bookmakers! if you are an IP address from a prohibited country, your site will not be available for registration!

if the bookmaker did not bother to close access for prohibited countries, then there should be no prohibited countries in the choice of country for registration!

In this case, the bookmaker deliberately did not take care of it! Considering that the bookmaker is very similar to 1xbet, I conclude that he did it on purpose!

Adkinsbet must remove the error from his site, prohibit registration for users with individual entrepreneurs from prohibited countries. And must pay all the money for this user!


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: MI6 on December 20, 2020, 05:29:26 PM
I can easily vouch for Adkinsbet here, I won quite a lot on their site and its all been paid out.

This is user error, and its typical he would blame the company when he was to lazy to read the terms.
Foolish to come here to try and make a case.

what nonsense are you writing! ?

absolutely all bookmakers, without exception, do not allow registration of players from prohibited regions! ABSOLUTELY ALL bookmakers! if you are an IP address from a prohibited country, your site will not be available for registration!

if the bookmaker did not bother to close access for prohibited countries, then there should be no prohibited countries in the choice of country for registration!

In this case, the bookmaker deliberately did not take care of it! Considering that the bookmaker is very similar to 1xbet, I conclude that he did it on purpose!

Adkinsbet must remove the error from his site, prohibit registration for users with individual entrepreneurs from prohibited countries. And must pay all the money for this user!

You are a piece of shit. You are the one who was trying to scam Adkinsbet because you are a matchfixer. Adkinsbet caught you professionaly, and since then you are doing anything trying to take them down.
Pathetic moron.
And regarding this case, you should read better. United Kingdom was NOT in the registration list, the user entered this by himself.
Everything is in the terms, so what are we talking about.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AdkinsBET on December 20, 2020, 05:45:38 PM
@AdkinsBET, have you changed the URL of your Terms & Conditions page?
Code:
https://adkinsbet.com/pages/tac
The current link (above) does not have any archive in the archive.org history except I archived a copy few minutes ago which is this: https://archive.vn/ZIpZ4

Players are responsible for their own registration. At the time of registration, players could also enter their own country manually. We then adjusted that because there was some confusion about it.
Quote
If you wish to use our website, this is not permitted if you are a resident of one of the following countries and their territories: United States of America, France, The Netherlands and countries that form the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Bonaire , Sint Eustatius, Saba, Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten) Australia, Great Britain and Northern
Was this clause on your site before and until 7th December? I am asking because you already said that you have adjusted the county section of the dropdown list.


You need to change the currency too.

https://i.imgur.com/ha11oJN.png

Another question: Do you email your users or anyhow let them know any update on your terms and force them to accept it?

Great Britain has always been on the list of excluded countries, this has not been adjusted by us. We also did not changed the url.
the currency GBP can be used any user. That does not imply anything. Some users prefer the GBP as their currency, as not all units of all countries are listed. This can also be the reason with the stability of a currency.
Previously, a user could manually enter his country of origin.
Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data. The user in question has not viewed the terms and conditions, that is not Adkinsbet's problem.
The fact that he takes a picture of his registration also indicates that he knows that he is often not accepted. He should have sent us an email asking if a player from the UK is eligible to play.
It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK and we immediately took action.
The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: TGD on December 20, 2020, 06:16:03 PM
The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.

I believe you should atleast give the user his money if he bet fair and square. Because your casino will definitely not refund his money in case he lose his bet after you find out that he violates his T&C or rather you will not review his account in case he lose.

This kind of discussion has been tackle many times. I hope that your management will come up to a good decision.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 20, 2020, 06:34:23 PM
Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.
I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

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It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.
When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

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The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.
You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: wildan88 on December 20, 2020, 06:54:18 PM
Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.
I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

Quote
It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.
When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

Quote
The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.
You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

Sorry Royse, but in this post you are writing things that do not make any sense at all.

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You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.

Why is this an error? The bar was meant to search for your country, not to enter a country and register with it. If your country does not come up in the list, then there should not be ring a bell?
It is pretty funny that everybody is always pointing to the Terms, except in this case.
User should have read the terms. Why is this so unclear? i think that every website works like this. Except if the TaC are in contradictory with the law from the jurisdiction.

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But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

If you register on the site, it is very clear that you have to agree on the TaC, they even have a checkmark box and a link to the TaC.
If you try to register without clicking the checkbox, the system does not allow your registration.
If I am not mistaken, I read that this user already received his withdrawals already before. He is now trying to imply that this was his first withdrawal, which was definitely not.

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The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

Do you really play on gambling sites? If you really do, then you know that many sites do not forced you to go to the TaC page.
That is how many, many sites work as well.

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You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.

There are different options to block a user from a restricted country. You can block an IP, or remove the country from the list, where Adkinsbet chosen for.
I disagree with all your points, but I agree with the points that the user should get his deposit back.





Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 20, 2020, 07:26:47 PM
Quote
You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.

Why is this an error? The bar was meant to search for your country, not to enter a country and register with it.

At the time of registration, players could also enter their own country manually.
The option was there, and then they had to adjust it. There was error, so the need for adjustment came in place.

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If I am not mistaken, I read that this user already received his withdrawals already before. He is now trying to imply that this was his first withdrawal, which was definitely not.

The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.
My account balance at this time was close to £2000, which sum amounts to deposits and winnings.
These means the deposited amount are into consideration too.


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Do you really play on gambling sites? If you really do, then you know that many sites do not forced you to go to the TaC page.
That is how many, many sites work as well.
I actually do and since I have been with bitcoin I am not gambling with any fiat currency sites, or I used to have accounts with almost all renowned  bookies (physically established as well as online) in Europe and at that time there were no Brexit. I even consider myself the one who forced betting sites to introduce a few seconds delay in in-play bets. It used to the have no delay and one could have the chance to place a bet within the 2nd after an event, you could literally bet after knowing the result because of no delay.

https://i.imgur.com/SPVbj69.png

There are sites which do not enforce, true but these days there a many sites who do enforce. It's becoming common practice.

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I agree with the points that the user should get his deposit back.
No doubt about it and for the #2 I think you missed reading the last line :-D
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There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

Anyway, I hope we see another good ending for Adkinsbet like the last one. No matter if we agree or disagree with each others but a good ending is what we all want.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AdkinsBET on December 20, 2020, 07:58:18 PM
I think this user should have been a bit more patient. He also sent several emails every day. Support has already informed him that his case is being worked on and that he would receive an update soon.
I get the idea that if people are not helped within a few days, then they start an accusation topic right away. That does not seem quite the intention :)



Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: MishaYo on December 20, 2020, 08:11:00 PM
Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.
I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

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It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.
When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

Quote
The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.
You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

I finally see an honest man!
Thank you Royse777 . everything is written as true as possible!
Only I do not agree with point 2.
Now the bookmaker has such a reputation that he suspiciously has a lot of errors and bugs. And he knows all this. It seems to be setting traps on purpose. And when people get into them, he refuses to pay!
I believe that the mistake was made on purpose. Therefore, they must pay in full!

Why are you still thinking about not giving a deposit ??? it's not even discussed!

Don't try to argue with wildan88. this user has sold his account to Adkinsbet.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: ongkok87 on December 20, 2020, 08:19:40 PM
User MishaYo is a professional cheater/scammer.
Alt account of venomfighter, fighterbet, Liontiger1
I hope some admin can ban this annoying idiot.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: BTCGOLD on December 20, 2020, 09:20:21 PM
These things happen so often. The only difference is that this user is desperate and has no experience at all. He is now using leverage to pressure the site, which is why he has started an accusation topic.
A lot of people think that's the way to pressure a new site, threatening sites and hoping for a result. I think this will only work against you. You will reach more if you act normal.
The site has already indicated that they are working on it, why do you have to start an accusation topic if it is not resolved within 2 days? I think that is sad and you are unjustifiably damaging the image of a site.
If 3 weeks would have passed, then you have the right to make an accusation but come on, because they did not solve within a few days and then start an accusation? That is not done.
And all because this user was so stupid not to read the terms. Registers from a prohibited country and now he blames Adkinsbet that it took more than 3 days to solve the situation.
I do not know this user, but one thing for sure is that he has no experience with gambling sites, is very nervous and that he is very desperate with rash actions which can not be justified
regarding MishaYo, I hope somebody has a big cage so we can lock him up there and get rid of that troll.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AdkinsBET on December 20, 2020, 09:46:02 PM
@bleedrulez
I have the permission to solve the situation, and I am allowed to give you your deposit back (calculating the deposits and withdrawals)
Please send me a PM with your bitcoin address so I will try to get this done as soon as possible for you. In that case, they can make the payment tomorrow morning.
I understand that is not the solution you were hoping for, but this is really the best I can do for you.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: barbaron on December 20, 2020, 09:57:47 PM
@Royse777
A little bit off topic, sorry for that, but mate wish, if I could have You in the past as support in my SCAM accusation with Malubit.com, which is over already!
However You are very qualified and honest person!
Thank You for being here!
Regards,
barbaron


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: MishaYo on December 20, 2020, 09:59:31 PM

 (calculating the deposits and withdrawals)


What?
do you mean that there were several deposits and withdrawals?

@bleedrulez
please tell us. Did you have any other withdrawals that Adkinsbet allowed? This is very important to know!
if this is true, then Adkinsbet has no chance of saving face!


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: qory on December 20, 2020, 11:02:01 PM
Nobody's gonna bring up the fact that the guy's "evidence" he registered an account from the UK is shown from the registration screen, and not the actual account screen? You can clearly see the big yellow "Register" button beneath the text fields.

Regardless of what actually happened, the terms & conditions clearly state players aren't allowed to gamble from restricted countries, of which Great Britain is one. This user copy/pasted the relevant section from the terms back in November:

For players who are looking for restricted countries,
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If you wish to use our website, this is not permitted if you are a resident of one of the following countries and their territories: United States of America, France, The Netherlands and countries that form the Kingdom of the Netherlands (Bonaire , Sint Eustatius, Saba, Aruba, Curaçao and Sint Maarten) Australia, Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Cyprus.

Nice work by Nutildah for this post. so it turns out that bleedrules has been lying about the terms and conditions, he said great britain was not on the list, but so it is 100% sure that great britan was on the list at the time of registration. From that I can only draw 1 conclusion that is that bleedrules has not read the terms and conditions, or denies having read and is now trying to do everything to get his money by sticking lies together.
Seems that Adkinsbet was honest about the whole situation, and bleedrulez just frauding here with fake accusations


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 04:39:56 AM

 (calculating the deposits and withdrawals)


What?
do you mean that there were several deposits and withdrawals?

@bleedrulez
please tell us. Did you have any other withdrawals that Adkinsbet allowed? This is very important to know!
if this is true, then Adkinsbet has no chance of saving face!


Yes, I made 2 withdrawals of less than £200 and several deposits which were more than the withdrawal. Only when I initiated a large withdrawal the account was closed.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 04:47:18 AM
Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.
I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

Quote
It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.
When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

Quote
The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.
You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: spyrosc200 on December 21, 2020, 07:43:24 AM
I opened my account with Adkinsbet at 20  Nov 2020.

Took screenshots of T&C at that day for the same reasons as OP, Great Britain was on prohibited juristictions list:

https://imgur.com/a/ioP5VLL

Also, 99% it wasn't possible to select Great Britain from Droplist. Have checked that at 20 Nov for other reasons:

https://imgur.com/a/k0p2pUb

I pointed that my screenshots were at 20 Nov.

OP registered at 7th Dec, maybe something changed meanwhile in T&C between 20/11 and 07/12.

On the other hand:

Adkinsbet site allowed user to enter ''Great Britain'' manually which is an error from their side

Adkinsbet haven't blocked IP's from Great Britain which is an error as well.

Adkinsbet allowed the user to place bets from Great Britain but closed his account when he requested a withrawal.

Imo both sides did mistakes.

In any case, user should at least get his deposits back.

Adkins management should examine paying user his winnings as well.





Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AdkinsBET on December 21, 2020, 08:36:08 AM
Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.
I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

Quote
It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.
When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

Quote
The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.
You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.

I am sorry Bleedrules, I read that you do not accept with this decision. In this case, I can not help you anymore.
I want to mention also that you were constantly lying here in this topic, that did not help either.
You blamed Adkinsbet that Great Britain was not in the terms and conditions as excluded list, but several users already proved with screenshots that Great Britain was from the beginning excluded.
They revoked my permission to solve this with you directly, as you refuse the offer and because of the false accusations against our company.
If you want to take further steps, you know what to do. Since you wrote in Emails that you are a lawyer by yourself  :)


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 08:53:47 AM
Thanks AdkinsBET for quick response.

Now you can still do that, but you cannot save that data.
I checked that, and you are correct the data can not be saved as it does not take any input that is not on the list.

Quote
It was only when we started the KYC procedure that we found out that he was from the UK, and we immediately took action.
When have you started your KYC procedure? Before the withdrawal request or after the withdrawal request.
I assume after he requested for the withdrawal because if you had spotted it before the withdrawal request then he already had his account closed, correct? Besides remember, you did not stop him placing the bets he made despite he was from a region that is restricted.

The bookies I gamble, I think they always remind me that I am from a territory where they do not allow placing a bet. I use tor, so sometimes I get an IP which is restricted for them.

Quote
The management already informed me that the user will not receive his winnings, but they will discuss if the user will get his deposit back.
You are a new bookie and I see you are going through the experiences and improving your service constantly from the experiences. Very good thing and I have well wishes for you and your team. The Community needs some top-notch bookies so that the competition keeps them busy improving their services. Right now we do not have many bookmakers to have many options.

In this case I see error from both you and maybe from the accuser.
1. You had the error that the input allowed someone from the restricted area.
2. You allowed the accused account to place a (the) bet/s.
3. The user did not read (possibly) the term & conditions in other words you did not enforce the user to follow the tac.

In my opinion,
(1) the user should get his deposit back, there are no question about it, and we have seen bookies already to practice this.

(2) But since you had your errors in the site and also the user was not enforced to follow the terms & conditions, for the winnings - I would say you both settle in the middle or even better if you just accept the loss and pay him whatever he won. This may look that you are losing money (maybe) but your wins are that as a new bookie you are always putting your customers in the front which all business should.

There are no doubt in #1 that you need to give his deposit back but #2 is up to you and your management.

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.

I am sorry Bleedrules, I read that you do not accept with this decision. In this case, I can not help you anymore.
I want to mention also that you were constantly lying here in this topic, that did not help either.
You blamed Adkinsbet that Great Britain was not in the terms and conditions as excluded list, but several users already proved with screenshots that Great Britain was from the beginning excluded.
They revoked my permission to solve this with you directly, as you refuse the offer and because of the false accusations against our company.
If you want to take further steps, you know what to do. Since you wrote in Emails that you are a lawyer by yourself  :)

What? I never said I do not accept it. I said I do not agree with it. That does not mean I do not accept it. You are misinterpreting my post. If I did not accept it, then why did I send you my btc wallet address hours ago? You are being very mean Adkinsbet


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 08:57:58 AM
I hope everyone here on the thread can see that Adkinsbet is refusing to at least return my deposit .

Why ? Because I said I do not agree with the decision, they took it to mean I don't accept it.

Everyone, please note that I sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet for the refund.

Just because I said I don't agree with their opinion, they take it to mean I don't accept their offer to return my deposit.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on December 21, 2020, 09:02:58 AM
I hope everyone here on the thread can see that Adkinsbet is refusing to at least return my deposit .

Why ? Because I said I do not agree with the decision, they took it to mean I don't accept it.

Everyone, please note that I sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet for the refund.

Just because I said I don't agree with their opinion, they take it to mean I don't accept their offer to return my deposit.


Adkinsbet has clearly indicated that they want to give you a refund. You literally responded that you disagree with their decision.

Then the representative writes that she can no longer help you because you do not accept their decision. Whose fault do you think that is?

There are sites who confiscate the whole funds if you gamble from a prohibited jurisdiction. You were already lucky they give you your deposit back.

You wrote this yourself, indicating that you do not agree with their decision.


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Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: sempak on December 21, 2020, 09:05:35 AM
why should they actually help someone make false allegations about the terms and conditions? just pay more attention when you register. and don't pit yourself pretend to be some lawyer (assuming what Adkinsbet writes is true)
@bleedrules did you email Adkinsbet that you are a lawyer yourself?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: Cacingkemi on December 21, 2020, 09:10:43 AM
Quote from: bleedrulez


What? I never said I do not accept it. I said I do not agree with it. That does not mean I do not accept it. You are misinterpreting my post. If I did not accept it, then why did I send you my btc wallet address hours ago? You are being very mean Adkinsbet


So you trying to convince people now that if you say you do not agree with it, that this is not the same as not accepting it?
I hope you realize that every message you post you lose your credibility with such nonsense.
Why did you blame Adkinsbet about their terms? you accused them Great Britain was not in their terms. What  lying piece of *** you are!
For a lawyer, your English is very bad. My English is also not very good, but I am not a lawyer so I do not have to  :P



Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 09:14:11 AM
I hope everyone here on the thread can see that Adkinsbet is refusing to at least return my deposit .

Why ? Because I said I do not agree with the decision, they took it to mean I don't accept it.

Everyone, please note that I sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet for the refund.

Just because I said I don't agree with their opinion, they take it to mean I don't accept their offer to return my deposit.


Adkinsbet has clearly indicated that they want to give you a refund. You literally responded that you disagree with their decision.

Then the representative writes that she can no longer help you because you do not accept their decision. Whose fault do you think that is?

There are sites who confiscate the whole funds if you gamble from a prohibited jurisdiction. You were already lucky they give you your deposit back.

You wrote this yourself, indicating that you do not agree with their decision.


Quote
Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.


You selectively hilight part of my quote. Why dont you understand the other part of what I said:

I said I will message them the btc wallet address to send the refund to.

I also said I do not agree with their decision because I thought they were also in the wrong and we could come to a compromise regarding a payout. I NEVER said that I do not accept a refund. You can disagree with a decision, but still accept it. Are you all here actually native English speakers? Because clearly some people here do not understand basic grammar.

Adkins bet is taking my statement that I do not agree with their decision to mean that I do not accept a refund.
If I am playing football and the referee gives my team mate a red card - I might not agree with the decision, but this does not mean that I dont accept it.

I never said anything to indicate that I dont accept the refund. I even sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet address which should count as indication that I am accepting the refund.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on December 21, 2020, 09:27:41 AM
Quote from: bleedrulez

I never said anything to indicate that I dont accept the refund. I even sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet address which should count as indication that I am accepting the refund.


In your case, considering your attitude, it would mean you want to accept the refund from your deposit, and when you will receive it, you will complain more and not close the topic.

Probably that is why they have chosen for this decision. Sending your btc wallet address only says nothing. You have to send it with the remark that you accept the refund from the deposit only.





I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings.

We are not playing a football game here, that is an aimless comparison. And if you still want to go into your position, then you do not agree with it and you do not accept it.

Since you were so smart to put it behind it "We should" which means the case is not closed for you and sure you don't accept or disagree with the decision

If you would have accept the decision, you would never wrote "we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings"

Means you do not accept and also do not agree, both. Basically the same actually, but you are only trying to covering your bad posts and lies.

By the way: Did you pretend to be a lawyer on the Email conversation with Adkinsbet?

If you are really a lawyer, then I do not have to discuss this with you.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 09:28:44 AM
To summarise:

1. Adkinsbet allows me to register from the UK. (you could select the UK as a country of residence, no IP block on the UK)
2. Adkinsbet allows me to play for over a week, making more deposits than withdrawals.
3. I try to make a withdrawal of close to 2000GBP in winnings and my account is closed - deposit and winnings confiscated.
4. After a week of asking for the money, Adkinsbet finally decides to issue refund of deposits, but not winnings.
5. I say I don't agree with them not returning the winnings, but at this point I have no choice, and I send them my btc wallet address in private message as they requested.
6. After delaying their decision for a week, surprisingly within a few hours they decide to revoke their decision to pay a deposit refund because they take my words to mean that I dont accept a refund from them.

Just to clarify Adkinsbet. I ACCEPT a refund. I disagree with the decision, but this does not mean that I wont accept a refund.

But you all are taking my words to mean I dont want a refund.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: gadado on December 21, 2020, 09:31:47 AM
@bleedrules

Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 09:32:17 AM
Quote from: bleedrulez

I never said anything to indicate that I dont accept the refund. I even sent Adkinsbet my btc wallet address which should count as indication that I am accepting the refund.


In your case, considering your attitude, it would mean you want to accept the refund from your deposit, and when you will receive it, you will complain more and not close the topic.

Probably that is why they have chosen for this decision. Sending your btc wallet address only says nothing. You have to send it with the remark that you accept the refund from the deposit only.





I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings.

We are not playing a football game here, that is an aimless comparison. And if you still want to go into your position, then you do not agree with it and you do not accept it.

Since you were so smart to put it behind it "We should" which means the case is not closed for you and sure you don't accept or disagree with the decision

If you would have accept the decision, you would never wrote "we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings"

Means you do not accept and also do not agree, both. Basically the same actually, but you are only trying to covering your bad posts and lies.

By the way: Did you pretend to be a lawyer on the Email conversation with Adkinsbet?

If you are really a lawyer, then I do not have to discuss this with you.

Do you know what the meaning of "semantics" is?
My occupation is none of your business, I don't understand why you keep bringing that up.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 09:33:28 AM
@bleedrules

Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?

Look, another one asking if I'm really a lawyer. Of what concern is my occupation to you?



Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: spyrosc200 on December 21, 2020, 09:38:09 AM
OP should at least have his deposits back

Adkinsbet have no reason to confiscate his deposits.

Those money don't belong to Adkinsbet and if Adkinsbet did everything correct, those funds should have never reached Adkinsbet wallet. By

He may haven't expressed it correcty, yet, confiscation of deposits is no way justified.

If OP agrees having his deposits back and mark topic as solved, this will be the best for both sides given the sircumstances imo


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: gadado on December 21, 2020, 09:38:46 AM
@bleedrules

Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?

Look, another one asking if I'm really a lawyer. Of what concern is my occupation to you?




I don't really care that much if you're a lawyer. A lawyer would never have approached this in this way. This topic shows your inexperience, lawyers would deal with it much differently.
I also notice that you are citing all kinds of points that you are trying to turn in your favor.

Why don't you post that the terms and conditions made it very clear that people from Great Britain are not accepted and that you have not read the terms and conditions yourself?
You even indicated that Adkinsbet would have changed this one day after you registered. So that is also lying what you do.
I hope Adkinsbet will give you that refund soon because I get tired of people like you who lie everything together just to get their way.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: Beparanf on December 21, 2020, 09:39:15 AM
To summarise:

1. Adkinsbet allows me to register from the UK. (you could select the UK as a country of residence, no IP block on the UK)
2. Adkinsbet allows me to play for over a week, making more deposits than withdrawals.
3. I try to make a withdrawal of close to 2000GBP in winnings and my account is closed - deposit and winnings confiscated.
4. After a week of asking for the money, Adkinsbet finally decides to issue refund of deposits, but not winnings.
5. I say I don't agree with them not returning the winnings, but at this point I have no choice, and I send them my btc wallet address in private message as they requested.
6. After delaying their decision for a week, surprisingly within a few hours they decide to revoke their decision to pay a deposit refund because they take my words to mean that I dont accept a refund from them.

Just to clarify Adkinsbet. I ACCEPT a refund. I disagree with the decision, but this does not mean that I wont accept a refund.

But you all are taking my words to mean I dont want a refund.

You are just making things complicated here. Take note that you have fault here and adkinsbet is just making a consideration about your issue. They are willing to refund your money but you said that you disagree with there decision which implying that there act of refunding your funds is unacceptable for you since you are aiming to fully receive your winnings. You are lucky that they are willing to extend there help even though you violated there T&C.





Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 09:45:06 AM
For the record, if Adkinsbet issued a refund, I will wholeheartedly and in good faith, accept this refund. I will mark the thread as solved and closed, and I will delete my accusation posts.

However, Adkinsbet say they have revoked their decision to issue a refund.

Can you please let me know your final decision in light of this post? I already sent my btc wallet address earlier when you asked, and I have been looking out for the refund since then.

Regards.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: acroman08 on December 21, 2020, 10:08:50 AM
@bleedrules
Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?
Look, another one asking if I'm really a lawyer. Of what concern is my occupation to you?
well, you were the one who mentioned that you were a lawyer. of course, people would be intrigued if you lied regarding you about being a lawyer since you also lied that about Britain is not on the list of the prohibited country on their ToC.

To summarise:

1. Adkinsbet allows me to register from the UK. (you could select the UK as a country of residence, no IP block on the UK)
-snip
but that doesn't mean you can play. it was clearly stated on their ToC that Britain is one of the prohibited countries.

anyway, I hope you get your deposit back.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 10:15:57 AM
@bleedrules
Did you pretend yourself to be a lawyer in the Emails or not?
Look, another one asking if I'm really a lawyer. Of what concern is my occupation to you?
well, you were the one who mentioned that you were a lawyer. of course, people would be intrigued if you lied regarding you about being a lawyer since you also lied that about Britain is not on the list of the prohibited country on their ToC.

To summarise:

1. Adkinsbet allows me to register from the UK. (you could select the UK as a country of residence, no IP block on the UK)
-snip
but that doesn't mean you can play. it was clearly stated on their ToC that Britain is one of the prohibited countries.

anyway, I hope you get your deposit back.

Well let's see if they change their mind and return my deposit. If they confiscate my deposit, well, that will go on their record for all to see regarding how they solved this case. I signed up in good faith, selecting a country they had on their dropdown menu. I also have citizenship to another country which is allowed, but never did I try to use those documents to claim I was located in that country when I placed the bets. For those on the thread accusing me of being the scammer, - well I could have used my other residency documents from another country. But I did not, because in good faith, I selected a country that they had on their registration list when I registered.



Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 01:43:00 PM
Big news folks.


Looks like Adkinsbet is lying about having a Curacao Gaming License:

Go on the Adkinsbet front page, scroll to the bottom of the page and click the link that says "GC Curacao"

According to Gaming Curacao, Adkinsbet is  NOT licensed or authorized by Gaming Services Provider, N.V. #365/JAZ.

Also uploaded to imgur:
https://imgur.com/a/vXo2gCx

The same Adkinsbet that is lying on me and saying I am a liar and dont want to pay my winnings and confiscated my deposit. This is from the License provided OFFICIAL WEBSITE LICENSE VALIDATOR. They are an unlicensed sportsbook.

No wonder they don't want to pay me and delayed payment for over a week!!!


What is your explanation Adkinsbet?? Where are your dogs that have been attacking me?? Come bark at me now!!!!






Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: sujonali1819 on December 21, 2020, 01:53:18 PM
https://licensing.gaming-curacao.com/validator/?lh=27e8d898d38a2e840dcd3e184033fa4b&rlh=6d9a2b6e879324b637b2fcc74a9223d3

According to Gaming Curacao, Adkinsbet is  NOT licensed or authorized by Gaming Services Provider, N.V. #365/JAZ.

Also uploaded to imgur:
https://imgur.com/a/vXo2gCx
But why I can see this that adkinsbet is licensed by Curacao? I can see your image but say adkinsbet not licensed or authorized. then who is lying actually? Or I am missing something here? I can see both URL link is the same.
https://i.postimg.cc/mrQwf8P5/Screenshot-8.png



Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 01:55:24 PM
https://licensing.gaming-curacao.com/validator/?lh=27e8d898d38a2e840dcd3e184033fa4b&rlh=6d9a2b6e879324b637b2fcc74a9223d3

According to Gaming Curacao, Adkinsbet is  NOT licensed or authorized by Gaming Services Provider, N.V. #365/JAZ.

Also uploaded to imgur:
https://imgur.com/a/vXo2gCx
But why I can see this that adkinsbet is licenced by Curacao? I can see your image but say adkinsbet not licenced or authorised. then who are lying actually? Or I am missing something here?
https://i.postimg.cc/mrQwf8P5/Screenshot-8.png



GO on their website, and click the direct link to their license and see for yourself.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 01:57:11 PM
https://licensing.gaming-curacao.com/validator/?lh=27e8d898d38a2e840dcd3e184033fa4b&rlh=6d9a2b6e879324b637b2fcc74a9223d3

According to Gaming Curacao, Adkinsbet is  NOT licensed or authorized by Gaming Services Provider, N.V. #365/JAZ.

Also uploaded to imgur:
https://imgur.com/a/vXo2gCx
But why I can see this that adkinsbet is licenced by Curacao? I can see your image but say adkinsbet not licenced or authorised. then who are lying actually? Or I am missing something here?
https://i.postimg.cc/mrQwf8P5/Screenshot-8.png



GO on their website, and click the direct link to their license and see for yourself.

Apparently, if you try to copy/paste the link, the Curacao Gaming License Validator gives you a "no data" message.
Go on their webpage. To the bottom of the page their is a link to the license provider. The validator then recognises you are trying to access the license from that page. And it gives you the license information


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:00:18 PM
https://licensing.gaming-curacao.com/validator/?lh=27e8d898d38a2e840dcd3e184033fa4b&rlh=6d9a2b6e879324b637b2fcc74a9223d3

According to Gaming Curacao, Adkinsbet is  NOT licensed or authorized by Gaming Services Provider, N.V. #365/JAZ.

Also uploaded to imgur:
https://imgur.com/a/vXo2gCx
But why I can see this that adkinsbet is licensed by Curacao? I can see your image but say adkinsbet not licensed or authorized. then who is lying actually? Or I am missing something here? I can see both URL link is the same.
https://i.postimg.cc/mrQwf8P5/Screenshot-8.png



Sorry sujonali1819, but I had to edit my post to give directions on how to access the license without the "no data" message. You can see for yourself if you look at what I posted.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: sujonali1819 on December 21, 2020, 02:01:28 PM
GO on their website, and click the direct link to their license and see for yourself.
Now I went to the site and try to visit from their footer link. And it is still saying it is licensed and authorized also it shows the site is verified. then what's wrong with you? Do you still see the same things as it is not licensed and authorized? Try again please.

https://i.postimg.cc/L5p9n4DT/Screenshot-10.png


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:04:20 PM
GO on their website, and click the direct link to their license and see for yourself.
Now I went to the site and try to visit from their footer link. And it is still saying it is licensed and authorized also it show the site is verified. then what's wrong with you? Dou still see the same things as it is not licensed and authorized?

https://i.postimg.cc/L5p9n4DT/Screenshot-10.png

Yes, the message I am getting is the same as the screenshot I posted.
Exactly what it says in this screenshot:

https://imgur.com/a/vXo2gCx


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:10:07 PM
GO on their website, and click the direct link to their license and see for yourself.
Now I went to the site and try to visit from their footer link. And it is still saying it is licensed and authorized also it show the site is verified. then what's wrong with you? Dou still see the same things as it is not licensed and authorized?

https://i.postimg.cc/L5p9n4DT/Screenshot-10.png

Yes, the message I am getting is the same as the screenshot I posted.
Exactly what it says in this screenshot:

https://imgur.com/a/vXo2gCx


I tried with a VPN from another country, and it says the License is valid.

However, when I change countries, it says the license is not valid.

Is it that the license is valid only in some countries and not in others? Can Adkinsbet explain this?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:13:00 PM
I just found out the explanation why:


Under this license, apart from its own diligence and legalities, the license holder is not authorized to offer its services in the territories of Aruba, Bonaire, Curaçao, France, Netherlands, Australia, UK, Spain, Saba, Statia, St Martin, USA, or any other jurisdiction that the Central Government of Curaçao (formerly the Netherlands Antilles) deems online gambling illegal or are blacklisted.


If you try to access their license from these countries, you get a message saying that their license is invalid.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: sujonali1819 on December 21, 2020, 02:15:21 PM
Yes, the message I am getting is the same as the screenshot I posted.
Exactly what it says in this screenshot:
https://imgur.com/a/vXo2gCx
It looks like something wrong. I will ask other members here to try this. Maybe then the confusion will be removed.

And one sugestion @OP You no need to post again and again in a row. So if you have something more to explain just edit the last post and input the words there. It does not look good. So you should avoid it. :)


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:15:52 PM
Anyway, I am still waiting on word from them as to if they are returning my deposit. I already communicated to them that I will accept it. If not, I will have to contact their license provider to give them the information.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: MonsterV on December 21, 2020, 02:18:22 PM
I have also had this problem once with another site, if you click on that too often the validator will no longer work, by the way I think that bleedrulez communicate disproportionately by accusing them of not having a license , this user has a problem communicating, that is clear, if he had behaved normally he probably would have had his money for a long time, as a lawyer you actually have time for that, spamming the forum all day


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:23:23 PM
I have also had this problem once with another site, if you click on that too often the validator will no longer work, by the way I think that bleedrulez communicate disproportionately by accusing them of not having a license , this user has a problem communicating, that is clear, if he had behaved normally he probably would have had his money for a long time, as a lawyer you actually have time for that, spamming the forum all day


So what do you think about them confiscating my hard, honest earned money? You want to blame me for lack of communication but you have nothing to say about them STEALING my deposit

What exactly warrants them stealing my deposit?

Does their license say that they can STEAL my deposit?

How do you think their license provider will react if they find out that they STOLE my deposit?

What about all the other people they allowed to register from the UK??? WIll they also STEAL their deposits as well???


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: codegnome on December 21, 2020, 02:26:09 PM
Anyway, I am still waiting on word from them as to if they are returning my deposit. I already communicated to them that I will accept it. If not, I will have to contact their license provider to give them the information.

You are not allowed to send meaningless messages with no added value here in the forum. Given the number of accusations you've already made against Adkinsbet, I wonder if Adkinsbet is still going to help you.

Let's not forget that you said that Great Britan was not included as a country in the terms and conditions, but that several users have already shown through screenshots that it was.
Why do you lie about such a thing? And now you also start that the validator does not work from your country, and you immediately say that they do not have a license? They have one, which can be clearly seen.
You are frustrated now and now you are really slandering them here, for nothing. And all because you do not have any patience and did refused their offer to accept the deposit.
You should have taken the deposit back, but you refused it and thought you have a strong case because some trolls came in here trying to defend you (and I do not mean royse777)


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: aomakun on December 21, 2020, 02:28:10 PM
I thought that lawyers would be more respectful.
One thing for me is clear that Bleedrulez is not a laywer, but just a clown who did not want to admit that he did not read the terms.
Bleedrulez a lawyer  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:29:44 PM
Anyway, I am still waiting on word from them as to if they are returning my deposit. I already communicated to them that I will accept it. If not, I will have to contact their license provider to give them the information.

You are not allowed to send meaningless messages with no added value here in the forum. Given the number of accusations you've already made against Adkinsbet, I wonder if Adkinsbet is still going to help you.

Let's not forget that you said that Great Britan was not included as a country in the terms and conditions, but that several users have already shown through screenshots that it was.
Why do you lie about such a thing? And now you also start that the validator does not work from your country, and you immediately say that they do not have a license? They have one, which can be clearly seen.
You are frustrated now and now you are really slandering them here, for nothing. And all because you do not have any patience and did refused their offer to accept the deposit.
You should have taken the deposit back, but you refused it and thought you have a strong case because some trolls came in here trying to defend you (and I do not mean royse777)


I never refused the offer of them returning the deposit. You are manipulating my words. I said I do not agree that they are not paying out the winnings. I NEVER SAID I AM REFUSING THE RETURN OF THE DEPOSIT.


Is it slander to say that they have stole my deposit? That is not slander. That is a FACT.

ADKINSBET STOLE MY DEPOSIT. I WANT MY DEPOSIT RETURNED PLEASE.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:32:47 PM
I thought that lawyers would be more respectful.
One thing for me is clear that Bleedrulez is not a laywer, but just a clown who did not want to admit that he did not read the terms.
Bleedrulez a lawyer  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

What are the users obsession with continuing to ask about me being a lawyer. Adkinsbet leaked information from the emails regarding my profession, and now other users keep having ago at me. Adkinsbet has my legitimate identification - multiple sources of my identification. They can get any information they want on me with my ID. They leaked confidential information from the emails regarding my occupation. And still they REFUSE TO RETURN MY DEPOSIT.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: VanityWallets2015 on December 21, 2020, 02:33:42 PM
Saying someone doesn't have a gambling license, while they do have one, seems pretty close to slaughtering. As I can read, they already indicated earlier in the day to return your deposit, you did not agree and wanted more. Then Adkinsbet said she couldn't help you anymore, now you have to deal with the consequences.
I also advise you to take a communication course, which will solve many problems for you.
By the way, who's going to say he's a lawyer when you're not, what's that good for? What kind of lawyer are you? A retirement home lawyer who lives in his own world.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:38:14 PM
Saying someone doesn't have a gambling license, while they do have one, seems pretty close to slaughtering. As I can read, they already indicated earlier in the day to return your deposit, you did not agree and wanted more. Then Adkinsbet said she couldn't help you anymore, now you have to deal with the consequences.
I also advise you to take a communication course, which will solve many problems for you.
By the way, who's going to say he's a lawyer when you're not, what's that good for? What kind of lawyer are you? A retirement home lawyer who lives in his own world.

FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME

I NEVER REFUSED THE RETURN OF THE DEPOSIT.

Why are you all manipulating what I said.

I also accused them of not having a license because when i check from my country, the message I get is that the license is invalid. So what do you expect?

I said I do not agree with the decision, but I will send them my btc wallet. I clarified this already. I never said I DO NOT WANT MY DEPOSIT RETURNED.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: gadado on December 21, 2020, 02:41:03 PM
Before this user is starting to spread false lies again, everybody can see that Adkinsbet told him he could get his deposit back.
He refused, and wanted his winnings as well. That happens when you are greedy in life. He can only blame himself of his greedy behavior.

@bleedrulez
I have the permission to solve the situation, and I am allowed to give you your deposit back (calculating the deposits and withdrawals)
Please send me a PM with your bitcoin address so I will try to get this done as soon as possible for you. In that case, they can make the payment tomorrow morning.
I understand that is not the solution you were hoping for, but this is really the best I can do for you.



Quote from: bleedrulez

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:45:45 PM
Before this user is starting to spread false lies again, everybody can see that Adkinsbet told him he could get his deposit back.
He refused, and wanted his winnings as well. That happens when you are greedy in life. He can only blame himself of his greedy behavior.

@bleedrulez
I have the permission to solve the situation, and I am allowed to give you your deposit back (calculating the deposits and withdrawals)
Please send me a PM with your bitcoin address so I will try to get this done as soon as possible for you. In that case, they can make the payment tomorrow morning.
I understand that is not the solution you were hoping for, but this is really the best I can do for you.



Quote from: bleedrulez

Thank you and everyone else for your assistance. Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to. I do not agree with this decision as I think they were also wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payout of winnings. But what more can I do. There you have it folks. I will close the thread when I receive the payment.

Listen, stop manipulating my words. Clearly many of you all here are not native English speakers. Do some of you all need a lesson in the English language?

I said
Part ONE of sentence: I do not agree with the decision - i think their decision is wrong and we should come to an agreement regarding payment of winnings.

Part TWO of sentence: What more can I do? There you have it folks (meaning that's it, case closed) - I will close the thread when I receive the payment. (meaning it looks as though I have no other choice in negotiating with them to accept their offer).

Immediately after saying that, I sent them my btc wallet address.

I showed the intention to receive the funds, although I disagreed with their reasoning.


Also what about this part of my sentence:

"Adkinsbet is saying they will give my deposit back but not the winnings. I will message them the btc address to send it to."

Does me disagreeing with the decision mean that they have a sufficient basis to CONFISCATE my deposits? I am being told I'm greedy but they have stole my deposits. This is non sense. I hope all of you all who are also slandering me feel proud and accomplished now.






Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AdkinsBET on December 21, 2020, 02:51:05 PM
Bleedrulez, I advise you to think before you say or write something. That only leads to misunderstandings.
We have a valid gambling license. Please do not write things that are not true.

I spoke to management and they will return the amount of the deposit. Can you confirm this here that you agree with this? To make sure we don't get any misunderstandings.
if you agree, then they can use the Bitcoin address that you have send earlier today in the Email?


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 02:55:17 PM
Bleedrulez, I advise you to think before you say or write something. That only leads to misunderstandings.
We have a valid gambling license. Please do not write things that are not true.

I spoke to management and they will return the amount of the deposit. Can you confirm this here that you agree with this? To make sure we don't get any misunderstandings.
if you agree, then they can use the Bitcoin address that you have send earlier today in the Email?

Thank you very much Adkinsbet.

I apologise profoundly for saying you do not have a gambling license. When I tried to see your license from my location it says it was invalid, but i can confirm that this is because the country is restricted.
Adkinsbet does in fact have a gambling license and is legally operating.

I can confirm here, with Adkinsbet and with everyone else on this thread that I am willing to accept the amount of the deposit. I will make no further claims for the winnings which you have decided not to pay out. I am happy for the deposit to be returned.

Yes please, can you send the payment to the bitcoin address that I sent today in the email.

I wish Adkinsbet all the best, and I would like to thank the participants of this thread for their contributions.

I will confirm and marked as solved when I receive the payment from Adkinsbet.

Regards


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: Steamtyme on December 21, 2020, 03:07:38 PM
Glad to see this was resolved. I was asked to weigh in here and was not very impressed, but have erased that reply

@Adkinsbet - These cases are giving your company a lesson in how things spiral out of control. You can't control how the individual acts, only yourselves and that's what people will be looking back on in the future. Moving forward please try to resolve these issues consistently and in a timely manner, as these actions at first glance until solved have nearly resulted in your account receiving negative feedback reviews.


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: Beparanf on December 21, 2020, 03:09:10 PM
Bleedrulez, I advise you to think before you say or write something. That only leads to misunderstandings.
We have a valid gambling license. Please do not write things that are not true.

I spoke to management and they will return the amount of the deposit. Can you confirm this here that you agree with this? To make sure we don't get any misunderstandings.
if you agree, then they can use the Bitcoin address that you have send earlier today in the Email?

You guys are pretty solid. This is what I want to see on a professional gambling casino. Giving consideration to there client is a good move. Only few casino will offer this kind of resolution for a T&C violation offense. Good job guys. I hope that OP will lock this thread as soon as everything was OK.

Keep it up adkinsbet.  ;)


Title: Re: Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: AdkinsBET on December 21, 2020, 03:12:18 PM
We can confirm that the payout has already been made to bleedrulez. If he wants to put [SOLVED] at the beginning of his topic?
Thank you.



Title: Re: [SOLVED] Adkinsbet scamming me close to £2000 in winnings
Post by: bleedrulez on December 21, 2020, 03:22:23 PM
Payment received with many thanks. Thank you for your cooperation