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What happened:: Adkinsbet already wrote in his topic that he considers me a scammer and refuses to pay! he claims that my IP address is the same as another user! But I can 100% know what a lie! since I have not used any anythink to change the IP address.
There are no violations on my part!
The bookmaker simply refuses to pay!

I made 3 deposits in the amount of 45.63mbtc and once asked to withdraw money - 41.55mbtc. Then Adkinsbet stopped responding to my requests!

Like all the reviews in the Adkensbet topic are about the same - everything is fine until you ask to pay the winnings! Further Adkenbet calls everyone a scam!
But everything is as clean as possible! I have not used any VPN or proxy! All my bets were fair! As a result of my game at the bookmaker, I lost about minus -4mbts in the end. I won nothing!

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2882335

Reference Link:
Amount Scammed: my deposit 45.63mBTC  my withdraw request 41.55mBTC
Payment Method: Bitcoin
Proof of Payment: https://prnt.sc/w7xtvv
PM/Chat Logs: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290408.new#new
Additional Notes: All I know about adkinsbet is that all their clients write negative reviews.
1. long delay in payments.
The bookmaker writes that he has a lot of clients, and therefore he does not have time to quickly refute everyone - that is a lie! When you make a request on the site, you are given the request number (like # 231). There are no more than 10 requests on the Adkinsbet website per week (like # 239)! There are almost no clients there!
2. the bookmaker allows registration from prohibited countries and allows them to place bets and even allows you to withdraw money - while you are losing a lot! The last example showed that the client was refused payment because he was from a forbidden country. Then I want to ask adkinsbet - how did you check the account for 72 hours and pay him money twice !? you didn't want to pay only for the 3rd time! when the client won £ 2000
3. I read how you refused to pay the client because of using the VPN service. But it says on your site that vpn is allowed if the client doesn't try to hide their location. From the answers of the client it is written that He did not hide his location and honestly indicated it during registration! The dispute is now open, you can all read it!
4. The client got tired of waiting for him to be paid a little money and started writing about it on the forum. Adkenbet paid nothing because "he didn't like the call, you can't write so badly"

5. Adkinsbet deliberately credits more money to the client's account. Then he blames the client for using a bug in the system to deceive them. Cancels all bets and pays the deposit!

6. my version - on my part there are no violations at all! What Adkinsbet says - you have the same IP address with another client - LIE. I do not use any methods to change the IP address - matches with other users are not possible!

ADKINSBET WHY IS THERE NO POSITIVE FEEDBACK IN YOUR TOPIC?
Is it really good to work this way when at best you only pay the deposit? or nothing.

hahaha you are the same person as mrmikee and mishayo lol

Why do you keep pursuing these malicious practices? You were a group of 4/5 people trying to steal money from gambling sites in every way possible. Adkinsbet states that you are the same person and that you just wanted a bonus and cheated with it. Can you answer the question whether you askes the website for a bonus? As they indicate there came 3 users that all asks suddenly for a bonus, and all using the same betting pattern.
Did you asked the site for a bonus?

I suspect this user has also asked for a bonus. There is talk of a group of 5 people who just wanted to rake in a bonus and then repeat the same principle with a new account. Never understand so well why people always think to collect bonus money in illegal ways. And when they get caught, they get angry. Judging by the reactions, this seems to me to be the same person who has now started an accusation topic twice. The leader of the organization seems to be MishaYo with education professor LEVSKI7. Other followers include TIMO, venomfighter and a few others. It's time someone started making a post with all these scammers together, so bookmakers have been warned.

I have already seen a few similar complaints. We feel like a few of you are trying to do something together. As @AdkinsBET team said you guys cheated with their system. Without opening the thread again and again, we can tell the AdkinsBET team a thread to provide proof. Because if you complain against them unilaterally, it will not be credible. AdkinsBET should be given a chance here to make their position clear.

We are very convinced that all the complaints come from the same user/group. In any case they have used the same IP address.
Besides this, they also tried to hide their location several times with VPN connections.
Their structure was always the same (except MishaYo, who is only doing with his account fixed matches)
There is a group of bettors active, who only seem to look for exploiting situations. We consider this people as professional gamblers/cheaters.

- Approach the email about a bonus
- Deposit amounts are more or less the same
- Always place bets on same bets and markets with same stake/tactic
- Deposit again was always with more or less the same amount

Like we said, we have IP evidence already, but the way of handling was also obvious.
We are 100% sure that 1 person/group is responsible for this, aiming to get bonus money.
IP addresses can not be published, because of the privacy of the user.

Adkinsbet - you're all lying!
Tell me, besides idiotic guesses, do you have anything else?

I had information that you can get a bonus here. I got it. I want to remind everyone here that according to the terms of the bonus, it was necessary to make an 8x rollover with a coefficient of 1.85 or higher.
Do you think this condition is easy? I think it's not easy! As a result of my attempt, I have lost more than I won!

You made money on me!

Further, you write nonsense that I made the same bets as another player! Are you seriously? All my bets were on top basketball league matches! Do you seriously think that other players cannot make such bets ???
What is my tactic? can you tell? I bet on what I liked!   https://prnt.sc/w804ed

Adkensbet, why are you lying? my IP address is unique and never used any method to change it! matches are impossible!
writel us if you have any serious multi-account facts! the fact that a person asks for a bonus is normal! bookmakers for this and use the bonus system that customers wanted to take it. but then they set the rules - an 8x turnover ratio of 1.85 is not easy.

I also want everyone here to understand - the bookmaker had doubts about my account, but he still allowed me to place bets! I made 3 deposits! the bookmaker answered all my questions by mail, until the request for withdrawal money!
A liar has two faces!

Now you are lying about matches by IP address ...
You don't want to work honestly! Why are you deceiving everyone?

Tell me which of the rules did I break ??? Everything is fair!  Just don't you like that I asked for a bonus? don't like that I only bet on basketball? it's all?

By any chance, can it be possible that polasaz = MishaYo? They both had the same mistake when they wrote adkensbet instead of adkinsbet as you can see here MishaYo have written (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301879.msg55878953#msg55878953). It barely can be a coincedence that both the user had the same spelling error for your website.

I think I have read that Adkinsbet already believed that this user is behind this. I don't think people make a typ error of writing adkensbet instead of adkinsbet, out of 200 people maybe 2 do.
They also have the exact same way of writing, always using the same writing style and emoticons. The content of messages is also the same.
The chance that MishaYo manages this account seems to me something like .. 98%
I am also pretty convinced that MrMikee is also the same person. They all are using the same attitude and all 3 were hunting for the bonus  :D

This is not good, every day we are seeing accusations against Adkinsbet, they just keep popping up. Anyone has any clue or has anyone investigated the entire scenario? What I have noticed so far are:

1. Maybe there are some users who are trying to take advantages from Adkinsbet but without proper proof we can not accuse anyone.

2. Adkinsbet's customer service are not really helping the users. They are not handling it professionally I believe. Other day the user Steamtyme wrote some good  suggestions. Here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299499.msg55838426#msg55838426
I will suggest Adkinsbet owner/admin to talk to their customer service team and give them proper training. Or maybe hire some people who are indeed experienced in handling customers bad attitude, are able to take the heats - at least make the customers happy when they are unhappy.

You really need a good customer service team @AdkinsBET. It's very important to grow your name.

To AdkinsBET,

For the sake of giving bad name to your brand don't make your clients unhappy. Example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299499.0
There were no case at all in this accusation. If you could handled it professionally then this case would not be in the forum. It's very normal that a gambler will be  bad-tempered, I do lose my temper when I lose much. The user may say bad words but this can't be a reason for freezing or not giving his winnings/deposit/continue to your platform. Honestly speaking this seemed very unreasoning to me. I am sure some sensible members around will agree with me.

When you say something then stick to it, unless it's not logical. In a scam accusation at some point you agreed to give the client their deposit back, the client did not agree with your decision, but he did not say that he did not accept your decision. But you then changed your mind and said your team has changed the mind and will not give the user his deposits. Later you settled it by giving the deposit. You did a good thing by giving his deposit, or you were very close to get a negative to be honest. I was watching all the activities on that thread without giving any input because I was frustrated by how you move your mind because of very silly things. This is not professionalism. My point is: before saying something, before making a decision, think several times. Do not flip mind.

Don't do anything that can ruin your name overnight.
I know someone in the forum who actually in touch with me from a long time. We share things and we both have things that are common. We trust each others, so there are nothing between us to lie to each others. He is a gambler and a high roller to be honest. The Other day he told me something about you, at first it was hard to believe but later when he gave me evidences then I had no doubt. This is not an accusation by the way. I am just sharing what I heard about you from him. You are still working on his case, so I told him to wait. This could be an error too. And I honestly hope this is an error.

Sorry if I was being off-topic above, but I think I had to start with some information that will help AdkinsBET to have reduced number of accusations in the forum. It's not good. Any moment anyone can leave a negative against you.

About this accusation:


Proving multi account is only possible 100% when you have KYCed both users. Have you found any matches in the KYC?

Besides, if you know or has doublt that he is multi account then why:
-You let him deposit three times
-You let him rolled over 8 times, assuming you also allowed him to place other bets too.

You should not allow any of this to the accuser at the very beginning if you believed that they are multi accounting and every thing would have been very normal.

What strikes me most about Royse is that he is very active in every accusation topic and focuses all his attention on Adkinsbet.

At first I thought he was honest and sincere, but he seems to side with the customer in every message.

I would like to ask Royse what his problem with Adkinsbet is, the way he talks now really makes no sense.

I am very surprised that Royse777 continues to interfere with every topic in this thread directed against Adkinsbet. Apparently it doesn't occur to him at all that this might be the same user.
 His claim about the KYC is, of course, nonsense. If you have users of the same IP address, isn't that 100% proof? Yes in theory you can also live with the four of you at that address, but you can also manipulate a KYC by having someone else take a photo or use someone else's ID.
Also, don't fully understand why you state that you have to perform a kyc before someone has to deposit money. If you get 20 registrations in a day, and those people want to gamble, how do you plan to do that?
Indicate that they cannot deposit anything before they have been verified? Royse777, you may be a respected member of the forum, but you don't understand gambling and business.
If you don't understand it, then you shouldn't write nonsense and be the smart ass, which is what you're doing every time. I am very annoyed by that. In the previous accusations topic you were already dealing with nonsense information, and now you are involved in every topic directed to Adkinsbet. Funny that you always choose the side of the op.

I have no problem with Adkinsbet, which part is not making sense for you please.

Maybe not or several times I would not change my mind to leave a negative on AdkinsBET's profile. The reason I am favouring AdkinsBET is that they are a new business, and perhaps they are trying to give their best. I still believe they have an honest intention to run a business, and we need new businesses in the community. However, it's frustrating to see such things to keep coming up. I believe, It will continue until they improve their customer service. So I suggested that I had to suggest them.

If you have any question about my honestly and sincerity, if you have a question about where I focus or not then please create a separate topic in the reputation board, I will gladly answer your questions but not here. This can not be a topic about me but an accusation topic by the user against Adkinsbet.

Hang on a minute!
@wildan88, @BitcoinAccepted what just happened? Suddenly it seems some attacks on me. It's late here, I will create a reputation topic tomorrow and I would invite you two to join me there. And prove everything that you have said against/about me (I will specify tomorrow once I will have the topic). In this topic it's better focusing on the accusation. Let's not make things about me and you.

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@sempak, I don't understand what you are saying here. Please be specific.

ronaldo40 ,  MI6, BTCGOLD, BitcoinAccepted, wildan88, sempak this is a person who has 100% sold his account for adkinsbet. There is no point in arguing with him, he will never follow logic! Their activity in the Adkinsbet bookmaker's topic immediately indicates a custom-made purchased character!

in my case, I made 3 deposits for a total of 45.63 mbtc and put 41.55 mbtc on the withdrawal. I made fair bets and in the end I lost! the bookmaker received his money at a distance - this is the bookmaker's job!

At the same time, the bookmaker allowed me to place bets and did not block my account, although, as he writes above, “he saw one IP address”. From that moment on, the bookmaker admitted that he himself did not work honestly! He accepted player deposits further and continued to allow further use of the site without restriction!

I also want to state that the bookmaker is lying here! There cannot be a match with the IP address. I have not used any methods to change my address!
I agree to pass the KYC verification! But after that the bookmaker will need to give me my deposit!

I repeat: Adkinsbet has no positive comments in the topic! They are all negative!
Also, the bookmaker did not explain why he does not pay clients' money for so long 72 hours! As you know, there are almost no clients there!
This is similar to the classic way for theft, when the organization accumulates money and then simply disappears. And they ask all clients not to start a topic with an accusation, just wait a little longer!

it is confusing that you are using different account every time everybody knows that you are the same person as mishayo and the other guy i forget the names might be because of the time why do you not get a normal life and find a normal job instead of trying to hunt for bonuses or looking for arb bets matched fixing or whatever the name is people like you dont belong on the forum and now its time for me to go to sleep

and 100 people to play the same bets is not a violation. from what I read on the forums there are many groups and families who play together with the same bets. so it is in the betting points. it is legal
https://www.elespanol.com/reportajes/20190916/caravacapicks-amigos-murcianos-tumbado-bet365-apuestas-millonarias/428707605_0.html

You continue to interfere with every topic in this thread directed against Adkinsbet as well.

Funny that you always choose the side of the bookmaker as well.

Am i wrong?

Royse777 is doing a great job here, you should be more respectfull to him.

If you only want adkinsbet's comment on this thread, you should create a self moderated thread before or you can simply pm adkinsbet about your story. Your story is almost same with someone who accused adkinsbet hold their money, it's kinda suspicious for me. You guys seems controlled by same person and just want to abuse bonus in adkinsbet by multiple accounts

A normal person will write like you? your comment is the same as for other purchased accounts. You are not asking details of why I did this or that. You immediately write to me that I look like a different person. How many more people will write that it seems strange to them that the player asks about the first deposit bonus when registering? Do you seriously think this is strange? or you get paid to write it! English is not my first language. if you see the wrong use of words or strange phrases - that's because I use google translate! It is obvious!
Adkinsbet uses the same trick. Very soon there will be hundreds of people with the same stories!
The topic will be dedicated to my account and Adkinsbet. The question is clearly posed - why does Adkinsbet not pay my money. Answer from Adkinsbet - because we didn't like what bets he made, they are like bets from another player! This is the whole point!
What can a bookmaker come up with to avoid paying the money?
1.hide ip - no
2.suspecting betting fraud - no
3.?
of course. it remains to say that he has multi-accounts!
the classic scheme of SCAM bookmakers.

The bookmaker is asked, "why don't you require to go through the KYC procedure on all accounts." Answer "We do not want to do this because most likely he will easily pass this test!"
Really???
Tell me what rights the player has then?
Adkinsbet may not pay the player just when he wants ...

Adkinsbet has already been caught playing dirty!
- did not want to pay the player simply because of the behavior on the forum
- he accepts deposits from players, although he already knows in advance that he will not pay them.
Adkinsbet has already confirmed all this himself!
Shame and shame!

If all the accused account was connected via referral link or proven that they all claim same bonus with same bet pattern then I believe that these user should be ban. This is plain and simple, there is no need to hostage the account withdrawal if he don't get any money from referral or bonus from the casino. It's more convenient to release the fund then ban the account if the casino really feel that this user violate there TOS.

Read and look at this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5302333.0 someone has said his withdrawal got pending. He waited for 2 days before he received his money and it was €10k, multiple times bigger than yours. You can see even though he has waited for 2 days, he already got his money from adkinsbet.

ahahahaha
do you really think we will believe this fake?
what a beautiful figure 10,000 euros
the person decided to make a deposit of 5000 euros to a bookmaker that worked for 1 month! a bookmaker who may not pay you simply because they did not like your review !? a bookmaker that has no differences from 1xbet !?
especially when a client opens a dispute without attaching any proof of money transfers)))
thanks!

if you enjoy reading and linking to other articles. then you can confirm that:
1) Adkinsbet refused to pay money simply because of bad behavior on the forum! confirm ???

2) Do you confirm that Adkinsbet conducts a full account check at the first withdrawal of money(72hours)? while you explain the case of a player from the UK who received two payments to his account and only the third time (when he won 2000 pounds) Adkinsbet refused to pay him because he was registered from the UK! do you confirm?

3) Adkinsbet is lying to us that they see players with the same IP address. They wrote that they immediately understood it. But they didn't block the account, they continued to accept player deposits! They took the money and knew that they would not pay later! Do you prove it ???

4) You confirm that adkinsbet refuses to pay the player simply for using the VPN service. Although the rules say that if the player does not try to hide his location, then this is allowed! Do you confirm this?

5) And on the topic. You confirm that Adkinsbet refuses to pay simply because "the player's bets are similar to the bets of another player(not just the same bets, but bets made with the same strategy = just a bets on basketball)"  Do you confirm that?

Everything I wrote here, the bookmaker did in an open dispute! everyone knows about it! I want you to confirm it !!! And next time, you will ask the bookie - "why did he do so badly?"
If you have not sold your account, then you must have a neutral position!

Adkinsbet don't pay cheaters and bonushunters  :)
Since you are cheater by yourself, you also experienced this. The frustration must be big that your honeypot is empty now.

How do you know they are cheating? You can't take the word of adkinsbet or the OP simply because they are saying that. There might be something behind the scene which needs to come on light. Nothing is proved here; who is guilty, who is not although the accusation doesn't seem like a true one.

Fallacy - use of induction or extrapolation from a set of limited data points - survivor bias.

This is just not even true. The user lost 2000 pounds initially, then won it back and an additional 6300 on top of it for a net change of 5000 -> 11300.

This, I agree, is something to look into. From a casino's side, they may justify it by stating that revealing practices would create routes of exploitation: the same can be said for the lack thereof, in the other direction.

This is not what they exclusively claimed. You are creating a strawman.

This is not what they exclusively claimed. You are creating a strawman.

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Focus on point #3. Push that, because it's the most reasonable claim I see here to use against the website.

This group of gamblers works with sophistication. Register with different ip's of a vpn, in combination with other ip addresses. Seems unique. Sooner or later they make the mistake of logging in without VPN.
We believe it is a professional group of "Gamblers".
That is also the reason that we have been able to make that connection with 100% proof. Same ip address used as MishaYo. Case is closed for our company.
The height of the amount is not relevant. Double accounts are not allowed. In this case they used it for the wrong purpose as well.
They are free to take any steps if they want to, we have all the evidence.

Looks like you are the one who is lying. People who react angry usually admit the truth.
The word bitch is only used by a few accounts on the forum. And somebody else mentioned a group, and guess what, it is used from somebody of the group.

spoken about 1xbet and Adkinsbet, maybe you can display us your proof, I can not wait to see it  ;D
Which IP address do you mean? I am not an expert but since when do 2 websites use exactly the same IP address?

Adkinsbet, can you not write many different things?
As I understand it, you refuse to pay me because you saw the coincidence of my IP address with another account !? right?
Can you also write the IP address here? if you lie, until the end!

If those users used same IP addresses, they deserved to have their winnings confiscated.

Proofs are needed though.

Someone must check IP logs etc.

There are so many trusted members in this forum, assume someone can see the proofs and confirm who is correct

This is yet another scam accusation against Adkinsbet.

So is this a case of Adkinsbet allowing the user to deposit as much funds as they want but the moment they try to withdraw the funds Adkinsbet start using their ToS as an excuse to refuse paying out?

It took a long time. I confirm that Adkinsbet did not try to contact me in any way!

The reason why they refused to pay was "the same IP address with another user."
In fact, I can say that this is a lie!
I have never used any method to hide my IP address. I can say that the bookmaker is lying to us! This is one of those cases when I carefully read all the bookmaker's rules and this scammer had no chance to take my winnings. so he decided to lie to us! and he stole all my money.

Also for the defenders of these scammers, I can write:
I made 3 deposits! and the bookmaker did not limit my account in any way! Why did he allow me to fully use my account !? Or he deliberately lured. The scam bookmaker uses unfair play when he continues to accept deposits from players, but is not going to give them winnings and is not going to give anything at all!

My problem is not resolved! Adkinsbet - scam bookmaker. Stay away from him!