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We will see very soon the end of Claymore for ETH, we saw it for ETC some weeks ago, and now is the moment for ETH. That will start in EPOCH 384, that will happen in Xmas. It could be probably able to continue mining, but there will be high level of reject. The only reason that happens is because Claymore is not more developed. Why? There are lot of speculations that I do not want to enter in them, but what is true, Claymore is not adapted to the next future mining
I want to post some alternatives of mining in this post, I will focus on miners that have proved them self’s to match the long term poolside hash rate with the claimed hash rate, so we can considered that they report honest performance.

The idea is to talk about these 5 Ethash Miners:
For AMD or Nvidia or Mixed Rigs :
-   Etherminer https://github.com/ethereum-mining/ethminer/releases (https://github.com/ethereum-mining/ethminer/releases)
-   lolMiner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4724735.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4724735.0)

For AMD:
-   TRM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059817.1320 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5059817.1320)

For Nvidia:
-   T-Rex https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432704.1040 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4432704.1040)
-   TT-Miner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025783.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025783.0)

Etherminer:
- Opensource, you can compiled and you will need if you want to have new Nvidia with CUDA 11, or that you Mining OS hat to do it by you.
- Fee 0%
- Working really well with Nvidia CUDA and old AMD Cards with RX 470-580, because they have a kernel for it. With new Navi and new drivers the hashrate is quite lower and you can have some DAG Generation problems in Navi 5700.
- No other Algo available to mine with it.
- Support available by the community in github

lolMiner:
-   No opensource
-   Fee in Ethash is 0.7%
-   Working very well. It doesn’t have problem with Nvidia CUDA driver. It has the best software optimization to reduce Watts with AMD, the more improve is with Navi, where it could be a save of nearly 4W by card.
-   It can mine different algo ETC, Beam, Equihash, …
-   Support available in the forum and also in Telegram, is easy to find the developer to help us.

TRM:
-   No opensource
-   Fee 1% Fee except for Polaris 0.75%
-   Working great.  The best miner for Vega architecture, it also had for smaller DAG great optimisation for Polaris Cards.  It is focus on AMD GPUs
-   It can mine also ETC, Nimiq, Cryptonight, …
-   Support available in the forum and on his Discord.

T-Rex:
-   No opensource
-   Fee 1% Fee except for Polaris 0.75%
-   Working perfectly with Nvidia.  Very focus to improve Nvidia. It has different version depending on the CUDA Driver.
-   It can mine also ETC, Octopus, MTP, …
-   Support available in the forum and on his Discord.

TT-Miner:
-   No opensource
-   Fee 1%, from version 5.0.0 to 5.0.3 developer take out the Fee and it was 0%, but he did not receive support and he finally put again the fee in version 6.0.0
-   Working great with Nvidia.  It works in all CUDA Driver version, it has lot of options to play with optimisation.
-   It can mine also ETC, EPIC, Veil, …
-   Support available in the forum by the developer


In term of hash all are very equal except etherminer with Navi GPU, in term of consumption is different in each miner some have more improves than other.
Now pick and prove the miners. We do not want pools of more than 51% to avoid attacks like we have seen the last months.  It is interesting not to have also miners with more than 51% of all the hash.

Here is a summary of a 24 hour test of Claymore, Phoenix, NBMiner and T-Rex on 3060 Tis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB9G7-bCL6Y


Not sure if 24h is enough though...

Finding a share is based on luck, so no matter how many times you compare, it will never be the same, so in point, this is anecdotal. I advise to choose the miner that gives the lowest dev fee and competitive hashrate.

Luck evens out if left for a long time. Somebody should be able to calculate how much time is needed :)

Gminer / Nbminer should both be on this list. 

With long term mining... the luck always Trend to 100%. It needs lot of hash to have this nearly 100%. So the test with only 1 card is quite small for the analysis. Complete rigs are always better.

You forgot to mention Phoenix Miner.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2647654.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2647654.0)

I think most people switched to Phoenix Miner.

https://2miners.com/blog/claymores-ethereum-miner-stops-working-best-alternatives/
Claymore’s Ethereum Miner Stops Working. Best Alternatives

" Our experiment shows that the best mining software for Nvidia is T-Rex and gminer, for AMD – Teamredminer and lolMiner.

Mining programs don’t overstate their hash rates. You can choose software that provides stable operation with the highest hash rate in the miner window. The developer fee shouldn’t be the first thing to consider when choosing mining software. Don’t go for ethminer just because it doesn’t charge a fee."

I dont use it for a year at least. TRM, lolminer, gminer, t-rex... These miners have regular updates and have more choice for miners - they supports different algorithms, including the newest.

These miner are good i agree but non of them supports strap option, some of them even dont have OC support you must use AB or overdriventool. i used write bat file run it no other tools no need. please miner DEVOLOPERS ADD TO YOUR MINERS STRAP AND OC THATS ALL MINER NEEDS.

Yeah this is a must because many people do not want to mod the bios of their gpus and there is a risk modding the bios, better to leave the gpu intact for warranty purposes.

Normally with the Linux OS, HiveOS, RaveOS, SMOS, PIMPOS,... all of them put the config in his system. I suppose the most affected people is Windows

ethermine? you mine ethminer which was developed by ETH dev team back in 2015? This miner should be used maybe on a last resort case. There is nothing wrong with it but it lacks features and very outdated.

Back in late 2015, I actually was using ethminer because Claymore didnt exist. I hated it because every single DAG change, all my rigs would crash. I would have to make sure I was home during that time and be ready to reboot all the rigs.

There is also no remote monitoring, no temperature control, can't disable GPUs on the fly and so forth. So its a decent software but nobody in 2021 should be using ethminer when there are much better alternatives.

That's true the control option should be done better from OS in case is used etherminer

18hours to be in Epoch 385. Let's see what happen

Nanopool shows 19hrs 36mins.  But yes SOON!!! another decrease for 4gb cards.

What is special for 385?

Dag gets bigger.  4gb cards get slower.   

What to you think of Phoenix Miner  ???

What is special for 385?
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https://2miners.com/blog/how-to-mine-ethereum-and-ethereum-classic-on-4gb-gpus/ (https://2miners.com/blog/how-to-mine-ethereum-and-ethereum-classic-on-4gb-gpus/)

Hello fellow miners. Some of you can remember me from HSRMINER Neoscrypt Fork by Justaminer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2765610.0). I've updated that miner, added new features and fixed bugs without access to source code.

I like Claymore's Eth miner much and used it many times in 2019/2020, so it's sad for me to see this situation.
I decided to see what can be done to solve the problem.

After two weeks of researching and hard work, the solution is 99% ready. I call it "More Epochs" mod for Claymore Eth Miner v15 for Windows. For now mod supports only Cuda 8 version of the miner and increases number of epochs up to 500. Support of Cuda 10 version of the miner, Linux version of the miner and support of Amd gpus will come later (not sure about Amd for now as I don't have any of amd video card right now for research and testing).

I'm doing final tests, right now my mod works with -eres 2 which means epoch 386 for Dag buffer.
But I have to wait actual epoch 385 to check it there. If everything will be fine, I'll release the mod and will create separate topic for it.

Don't lose hope and stay tuned.

Just under 10 mins until new Epoch on ETH DAG.

Please remain seated with your seat belt secure and your folding tray in the upright and locked position.

Seeing a slow down on 4gb cards of 5-10mhs depending on miner.

What are others seeing?

I'm seeing a slowdown of 4 mhs using Lolminer on HiveOS.

Still studying what the drop is.  The rigs that dropped close to 10mhs are 13 gpu rigs...so it is going to be more than 2x what is seen on a 6 gpu rig.  What odd is some 4gb 570s are still running unaffected and others have slowed even on same miner. 

Will take more time to see but definitely dropping with each new epoch.

Considering Claymore was 3% inflated rate you are seeing real hash now. You can also try to improve with some changes on the config. If you put it, will be usefull to help

Interesting thing about the zombie mode right now in this epoch 385, there is not decrease in hashrate. I have a rx 470 4gb and i have been checking it, when used to do 32 mhs, its hashrate used to fluctuate from 27 to 32mhs, right now is doing 24 and so far it does not fluctuate, it is always 24. I mean before 385 used to fluctuate now it doesn't.

I've finally released my


Epochs 385+ works now!

Visit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305046 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305046)

Only for Windows and with some errors... Nice job, but probably better continue with a new miner.

i like lolminer and trm but would be awsome if these miner could support oc, there is no mclock, cvddc, straps , rxboost or ref. need o use 2nd program to oc and do it again on restart save profile load again, would be nice write ol oc settings in bat file and run

Are you in Windows?...
AmdTweak accept line parameters, the XL version not :-(
OverNTool too or you can directly use the AMD Adrenaline driver... to automatic upload it at the start or reboot.