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Hello comunity

Im looking for a TRUSTED spoortbook with this specifications

- 100% trustworthy for big amounts
- only work with crypto "coins" (no usd or eur for exemple)
- Have a good limits bet per sport event ,and dont limit the bets after one big win


If someone can genuine help me , I would like to thank


PS - please, dont use this topic to promote scam sites or false schemes

Such thing doesn't exist, you will always have to make compromises with at least one of your requirements. There are a few, which I would consider trustworthy and you bet with crypto, but you will get limited pretty fast, if you are doing good. There where you don't get limited - crypto betting exchanges - you will not find enough liquidity still and they only have the mainstream sports/leagues/markets.

Hey I am looking for the same thing. What are you betting on? Do you also have certain info?

Well Stake.com is pretty good and also reliable and one of the first Sportbook sites that paid out early when the US election results was announced. (They were willing to take the losses, if the outcome was changed and that showed me that they were putting their customers interest first.)

They also have a good reputation to uphold, with two casinos on the line ...if they are dishonest. (PrimeDice being their other partner casino)  ;)   (So give them a try.... and see if you are satisfied..... https://stake.com/)

Edit : On second thought.. I will rather remove the affiliate link... I do not want to get into trouble.  :(

This is true, especially if you are on a winning roll. There are certain casinos wherein they would limit your account pretty quickly once you made a big win on their platform. Even if it's not stated on the fine print, they would still impose it without you knowing and then you will no longer have a good day. It's always one or the other that you will have to sacrifice if you want to have a good sportsbetting experience.  But so far, stake.com has been pretty reliable and transparent on their policies and whatnot. I never won anything significant on the site just yet, but their market is pretty huge and the user-base is pretty huge, too, so liquidity isn't an issue at all. Customer complaints are quick to get resolved, and as far as limits are concerned, there aren't much people complaining about that matter, so perhaps they are a good shot that can fill your needs.

Do you ?

Absoluty, if i join will be by your refer.

I see you re a member always try help others members , and this is enouth for me , to see the personality of each person

Yes I sometimes have some info. How about you?

I advise checking out Fairlay which basically fulfills all your requirements.

https://fairlay.com/

I have been betting here for quite sometime and never faced issues related to trustworthiness, reliability etc which is why I recommend it. The only con here is the complicated UI which is initially tough to navigate, but you will understand how everything works as time passes.

Apart from this exchange, other popular crypto sportsbooks usually limit quickly if you win consistently.

Some of the most trusted and most used sportsbook websites on this forum are Sportsbet, Fortunejack, Stake.com, Betnomi (they may ask you for kyc at some point).
There is nothing 100% sure for anything, especially in crypto or in some forum but I can tell you what sportsbook to avoid based on my research:

All the sites that you mentioned are popular ones, but they invalidate one of his required conditions which is limits basically. All these books usually limit their winners after a couples of big wins in order to stay in business. This is why I recommended Fairlay where this will never be an issue.

Also, they might ask KYC under suspicious conditions only which is why this shouldn't be an issue for him.

See the Ranking of TOP 20 Cryptocurrency Sportsbooks here: http://100bookies.com/cryptocurrency-sportsbooks-eng/

At Betnomi you don't bet with BTC/crypto though, which is a must for OP.


Hmm, no, it's missing liquidity. Tomorrow there is the top game in Serie A and the over/under 2.5 market looks like this:

https://i.imgur.com/076Gg5Q.png
Source: https://fairlay.com/market/ac-milan-vs-juventus-17/

The odds are ok, but the liquidity is poor considering this is a game with big names on a day where not a lot of other stuff is going on. And if you go into lower leagues, it gets thinner and thinner unfortunately. Fairlay does tick a lot of boxes and it depends a bit on a) what markets OP wants to bet and b) what is his average bet size, but it's not perfect as well.

haha you have 1xbit in your list. And not even on the last place, but on place 5! What a miracle.
I do not judge about the rest of the bookmakers in the list, but the only thing I can say is that stay away from 1xbit as far as you can.
If we had journeys to the moon, I would stay there to make sure you will not deposit on 1xbit.

The OP should at least read the thread of popular sportsbooks here and see their trust or read the thread and look for potential warning signals. And also, I think this thread should not be here, should move to the gambling discussion board - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0. Better do his own research and not rely on suggestions only.

each betting site has its own advantages to play. some people love bookmaker A, and others B. depends on what you love. that review site of 100bookies is of course complete nonsense. not based on truth. I also see sites at the top that don't have a very good reputation. and who are also far from active on the forum. I agree that you should avoid 1xbit at all times

Starting at post #3555, you can see the rating's guide at 4 different sites listed here at BCT.
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.3540

Nitrogen and Betcoin are the top two and most trusted. Here's a full list.


"A" rated books
nitrogensports.eu (http://nitrogensports.eu) A+ (2013)  
betcoin.ag (http://betcoin.ag) A (2013)            

"B"rated books
mBet.io (https://www.mBet.io) B (2017) Horse racing.
betbtc.co (http://betbtc.co) B- (2014)
      
"C" rated books
anonibet.com (http://anonibet.com/)  C (2011)
cloudbet.com (https://www.cloudbet.com) C- (2013)
fortunejack.com (http://fortunejack.com) C- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.
Bitsler.com (http://Bitsler.com) C- (2015)  
playbetr.com (http://playbetr.com) C- (2019)
stake.com (https://www.stake.com) C- (2019) sportsbook, (2014) casino.

"D" rated books  
Betonbit.com (http://betonbit.com) D+ (2019)  
coinbet24.com (https://www.coinbet24.com) D+ (2015)
parlayplus.com (https://www.parlayplus.com) D+ (2019)
AceDbets.io (http://AceDbets.io) D (2020)
Bet105.eu (http://Bet105.eu) D (2020)
Btb88.com (http://Btb88.com) D (2020)
Cryptobet.com (http://Cryptobet.com) D (2020)
1xbit.com (https://www.1xbit.com) D (2016)
wink.org (http://wink.org) D (2019)  
dbet.io (https://www.dbet.io/) D- (2019)  

Here's some list of where you can find good sportsbook

https://www.btcgosu.com/bitcoin-casino-games/sports-betting/ (Known review site in the forum)
https://cryptofairly.com/ (Fair review of each gambling site - in my opinion)

Before choosing which book sites you are going to play with remember that not all of them have the very same terms and conditions.
It's better if you are going to check each of the bookmaker's terms and condition since you said you are going to deposit and bet high stake some of them might ask you KYC.
And some of them might confiscate your deposit if you violated any of their terms so be careful and check everything before depositing.

How I wish there will be someone who can give you a genuine reply to your request as it is very difficult to point out a 100% trustworthy platform even if their are few out there who have good reputation but still they are not worthy or receiving a 100% trustworthy rating especially to big amounts deposits.

I wonder why you are afraid with casinos that accepts both crypto and fiat, in any cases that is your requirement. I will just hope that you can find what you are looking for as frankly saying I cannot give you a genuine recommendation basing on your requirements.

I have to disagree with Betcoin beeing an "A" book. I got my stakes reduced there to less than $10 after just a few weeks of totally fair betting. And I am betting only about $50 a bet, so I am far from being a highroller. But if they do not like what you bet on, and if you win just a $300-400, they will limit your stakes to almost nothing. No serious book should do that. So I would recommend you to stay away. If they can not even handle someone who wins a bit with $50 stakes, I surely would not trust them with bigger stakes!
 

First of all, thank you all for the help


i will read all posts  with attencion.



Btw

Im newbin in crypto sportbookies

To deposit , the best wallet ?

Im use a long years skrill and neteller to deposit and withdraw for money sportbooks

There isn't really a best wallet in general. A wallet online from blockchain.info is useful if you are new to crypto. If it concerns larger amounts, then I would still take a hardware wallet, but dig into the matter if a mistake has been made.

But its possible deposit and withdraw direct from hardware wallet - crypto bookie ? and the opposite ?


THANK YOU

You make a fair point. Fairlay's liquidity is great sometimes, but terrible some other times though it does satisfy almost all of op's conditions which is why I recommended it. The alternatives like Exbet etc are worse in comparison.

Obviously. You can send and receive BTC and other popular cryptocurrencies directly between the wallet and the bookie irrespective of whether you are using a software or hardware wallet.

If you are planning to deposit high and bet high, you only chance are agents.

Stick to trusted ones like Sportmarket.

Betinasia and vodds accept btc as deposit methods as well.

But, Sportmarket is the most trusted one.

This ranking isnt really that accurate anymore. I dont consider nitrogen to be on the A rated and same goes with Betcoin.ag - If we do consider or do count off into their past issues and pending
problems then i would tell that other bookies is a better option.

Cloudbet
Stake
Sportsbet
Fortunejack

These are my A's basing off on recent experience. Also why would be listing out or including that 1xbit shitty one?
I wont really be following this kind of list.It isnt something precise anymore.

I was about to suggest this as I had played on betbtc for a long time and had a good experience. Everything was prompt. I didn't get why you have rated it as B-? It has been here for a long time now without arising a single issue other than processing the big amount of withdraw delay; nothing else were there ever to my known. It deserves a better rating IMO.

I don't think it's very smart to gamble with a site based in Costa Rica.

Gambling is not regulated there and therefore they do not have an official gambling license.

There is always a lot of difference in a player's opinion, but one thing to do is stay away from sites licensed through Costa Rica.

I would AVOID FortuneJack at all costs! These crooks owe me $6100 in BTC and still haven't paid it after over a month after winning a bet.

I would recommend Stake.com which is great, though sometimes they have very low limits on certain matches or games (esp if they aren't major).

If you are new to crypto betting, I would recommend an online wallet from Blockchain to test the process and test the deposits.

There are some good sites where you receive the Deposit after 1 confirmation of the network

From what I can judge:

Adkinsbet.com
Sportsbet.io
Fortunejack.com
Stake.com

Make some thread on accusations board in regards to this issue. Fortunejack does have similar issues back in the past about winnings hadnt paid off but eventually they had been resolved later on.
Just try to contact and make some negotiation with them about your issue.Theyre legit and theyve been here on this market. They wouldnt scam you for a mere 6100 for this platform this big.

For sportsbook that i do trust then i do stick with sportsbet.io and with this new adkinsbet.This do suit out my needs as a bettor.

Made a few threads and although they are aware of it and has responded once, they haven't replied since and keeping giving me a bunch of lame excuses and saying it's their final decision.

Also sent them a PM here and got no reply.

And I've been sending them emails and they haven't replied either and completely ignore them.

They're a complete disgrace and I would never recommend them to anyone after this experience, especially for bigger bets.

i use agents with money , but in sportbooks (not the exchanges ) the limits are always a problem .

Sad to hear. Heard a lot of negative stuff regarding FJ's sports-betting section in recent times which is why I usually only play at their casino thanks to their UI and design primarily.

What was their reason for withholdings your funds? Was it multiple accounts or something similar because this is usually the case? Did they ask you to submit KYC?

I read that it had something to do with placing a bet, he had made a bet on a bet in tennis where there were favorable odds, after checking the Fortunejack with their Igaming provider it turned out that the odds were a lot was too high and the bet was canceled

In that case, FJ is clearly at fault. After placing the bet, the player has full rights to demand his winnings which is exactly what he did. It seems like FJ tried to minimize their losses by coming up with the excuse that you mentioned.

If this is really what happened, I sympathize with EpicChamp because the amount involved is pretty big while it's pretty trivial for a popular casino like FJ.

Please separate between OP and about FJ problem. You can discuss about FJ on scam accusation section or their main thread, but not on here.

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OP, just make sure you have checked the casino you want to play is allow VPN or not, in case you want to use VPN and check their ToS which banned countries they restric to prevent some problems on the future.

I have played on FortuneJack many times and never experienced any problems like EpicChamp, I can also recommend Sportsbet.io, same as many other users. They have an option to bump the odds for certain outcomes on all major sports. They also have instant deposits, which makes your bitcoins immediately available for betting as soon as the transaction is propagated to the nodes, and before it receives the first confirmation. This is really handy, especially if you need to deposit and play on an event that is about to start.

Stake.com is a third site I'd like to mention because of their live streaming feature. If you like to watch the matches you bet on, you can do that there.
Regarding the limits. I can't help you with that. I have never won life-changing amounts that would cause bookies to ban or limit me.

The odds were not even that high or unreasonable when I made the bet. I bet on a player to win at 2.6, then a few hours later he dropped to 1.3, but in the email FortuneJack sent me when they canceled the bet it said that the reason they canceled was because he dropped from 2.6 to 1.7.

That is not a significant difference like dropping from 5.0+ to -1.5, and it wasn't even that clear of a mistake because I can give you 10 different reasons why it would make sense for his opponent to have been a 1.4-1.5 favorite at that time.

So they had no right to cancel this bet, especially since they kept it open on their site and allowed other people to place a bet on this match before and throughout the match.

So how can they only cancel it for me and not for anyone else? That is complete bs and wrong in so many ways. Either you universally cancel it for everyone (due to withdrawal, retirement, weather, etc) or for no one. And not a single other site canceled this match for their users on that day, especially not for those who got him at more favorable odds.

Honestly, I think 2.6 to 1.3 is also a huge drop. Enough to cancel a bet. It is not from 2.6 to 2.3, then it might still make sense to leave it intact. The gap from 2.6 to 1.3 is too big.
Probably all bookmakers would act against this in this way. By the way, I do wonder why it suddenly went from 2.6 to 1.3, injury?

In their email they claimed their reason was that he dropped from 2.6 to 1.7 - so that is not a huge drop, happens a lot and is not a valid excuse to cancel a bet in advance.

Also, he was first posted at around 3.2 (maybe not on FortuneJack but Stake.com + Cloudbet, but at least 3.0 on Fortunejack), then was slowly dropping by 0.2 units every 30mins for ***2-3 hours*** where he ended up at 2.6, and ONLY THEN they decided to freeze the match and greatly change the odds.

Why they did that I have no idea and honestly I don't care. But that was clearly not an accident or a technical error like they claim it was, and it's not my problem or up to me to decide their reasoning for calculating & coming up with their odds.

And no, all other bookkeepers kept the bet open and rewarded those who got him at 2.6+ odds the win. I have a friend who used another site and got him at 2.8 or 3.0 and they counted it as a win fair & square.

But what's even worse than not counting it as a win, is that they refuse to return my big stake of the bet (which is over $2400) as well.

To me that is theft at its finest and crosses all boundaries.

Sportsbet & Fairlay are  my suggestions

Fairlay is not a sportsbook, it is an exchange. And the website does not look to user friendly if you ask me. Although they exist for some time now.

It's good to know OP that Stake is in the sportsbook you want to try.  Crypto is the only deposit they accept, when you use it to place a bet you can see its fiat equivalent such as USD / EURO.  Many trusts it so you will notice a lot of active players here, you are sure to be convinced because almost all users recommend it to you and you will not regret it.

But other than that, I also tried to place a bet on the Bitsler market that only last year they added it maybe August or September if I am not mistaken and freebitco.in, I liked their parimutuel betting and weight multiplier.  You can also try this new prediction site futuur.com, they also offer a lot of sport betting such as the NFL and NBA.

Hi @ratas. We would suggest that you try out BetInAsia BLACK platform (https://betinasia.com/black/), because it has aggregated limits of 10+ bookies and exchanges. If that is not enough to cover your needs, there is an option to use Skype betting service (https://betinasia.com/skype-betting/) with us. Limits would be even higher, although it is focused primarily on football Asian handicap betting.

Please contact us if you need any additional info support@betinasia.com. Thanks

Let's not be sure about that as some cases looks can ve deceiving in my opinion. You may think that the look is not user friendly but once you know about it and tried many times but it's not unless there is already a review about it and most reviews are negative and not a positive one then you should not tried it. Well, there are already a different soortbooks thta op can choose.

It would be difficult to pinpoint a perfect sportsbook which gives lucrative bonuses for betting. Only player experience and sportsbook's longevity can provide concrete information on what you'll encounter once you've indulged on online sports betting. Luckily, it's easy now to look on review sites and chat with other players and have an idea which sportsbook brands to consider. You can try Stake, CloudBet or Nitrogen Sports to name a few. But don't limit your choices as you progress and learn other info. from other bettors.

Its hard to vouch for this as 100% trustworthy for Big amount because i never had bet or win Big amount as i am small bettor.
Sorry but what is the effect if the site will accept Crypto and Fiat at the same time?
I believe that sportsbet is offering this one (If i am not mistaken)
Next time Try to create a "Self Moderated" thread so inappropriate Post will be deleted by You.

Its hard to trust a hug amount for certain sportsbooks around since even if they are trusted we cannot still assure that we can play smoothly in the long run since for sure for huge deposits or bets we will encounter an issue and its so hassle if we get caught in that situation that's why I recommend to try various big sportsbook around here and don't focus only on one site so that you will have a great options and can manage the risk on your deposits.

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That's the point. You never know what will happen exactly to you when dealing with a particular bookie. This uncertainty kills...

I understand that you want to choose the best platform to make sports bets, but here is my humble recommendation, I have been doing stake.com, freebitco.in for a long time and I am going to try betcoin.gg, I think they are the best sports betting houses, of course sportsbet.io, which is undoubtedly one of the best and super reliable, I recommend them because I have been interacting there and everything has gone well, I fully trust also given the trust that these bookmakers have here in the forum, I think that's what matters, the safety of our money.

Agree with you. I think that stake is the best choice currently.

From my personal experience the best sportsbook are:

1.- stake
2.- Nitrogensports

In both, you can place big bets and you can make big withdrawals. And those are sites that you can trust because they have a valid gambling license.

Since you are going to place big bets I would recommend you to create an account with an affiliate or referral link, that way you can make some extra satoshis for a friend.

Would really be just common sense that you should stick into the known ones or top ranking bookies as of this moment even though it wouldn't ensure about safety or risk but at least this is a better shot

rather than engaging yourself into less known which the risk is more higher.So it would really be that part of your awareness or common sense that you would choose up on whats the current best
compared to none.I would go for Stake and Sportsbet.io and something like Playbetr too.

In any way - the best way is to decide by yourself. There are a lot of casinos in this thread, and everyone has their own opinion, most often they are differ. In such a way we will see only a discuss who is right, but in this case mostly wins the loudest and that is possible that he is not right. So just look the thread of these casinos and decide only by yourself.

I think it depends on what games/markets you want to settle bets

Stake.com is a solid and good brand to use.
Good Website, Good Software, Good Limits and also some nice Gifts if you wager higher amount

Only thing i have to complain about is the offer in general and also the markets on big leagues are inplay not the best

sportsbet.io is also solid a good bookie
Offer a wider range of games compared to stake, but you get limited faster if you play to much on lower leagues
i like the website in general and the side gifts also nice

nitrobetting / nitrogensports are also good and offer a wide range of games. Live it could be more but is ok
But you also get fast limits if you play lower leagues or follow bigger tipster on low leagues

duelbits i´m using at the moment, i think from software perspective its similar to stake, but have more games. I like this site very much, you can collect nice cashbacks.
cant tell to much about limits here

smaller brands i would be carefull to not deposit to much....

Agree on stake since it was recently used by Drake and wager huge amount of money considering that is not just a promotion. But I highly doubt Nitrogensports since they have a record in the forum for not paying upfront there customer, They let the user undergo to a difficult circumstances just to claim his reward which should be given upfront and a lot more shady things in the past which give them a bad reputation. I was a nitrogensports player too since they are the who widey introduce e-sports betting here but due to there recent negative action, I loss my trust to them until now.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=88706

https://i.imgur.com/layEAHi.png

on the first and second pages it has been mentioned an honest and responsible sportsbook site, if you haven't found a good spoortbook bet yet, just play on the Roobet.com site, they won't beat you, they will pay the money you bet, if you win big.

It doesn't matter which gambling site offers USD or EUR, it doesn't matter what crypto you put on, USD or EUR doesn't bite your coins.

To my knowledge and my experience Roobet doesn't do that, just give it a try, if you obey the rules and win.

Before choosing which book sites you are going to play with remember that not all of them have the very same terms and conditions.
It's better if you are going to check each of the bookmaker's terms and condition since you said you are going to deposit and bet high stake some of them might ask you KYC.
And some of them might confiscate your deposit if you violated any of their terms so be careful and check everything before depositing.

All of the Casino has the right to freeze / block your money if you are violating there terms but they are not allow to confiscate your balance unless your account abuse there giveaways or exploit a bug on there Casino that result to your current balance but Casino is not allowed to confiscate your deposit money. They will freeze it but you can still claim it after sending KYC documents as AML requirements for dealing on this kind of situation.

I suggest staying away to all Casino that offers fiat deposit because they are the casino that has a critical license in terms of KYC for high rollers.

Yeah no, Nitro used to be good but took a huge hit in their reputation as of late.

I'd rather go with something more established like Stake or even Sportsbet.io.

Stake literally has Drake betting millions on a daily basis so you definitely don't need to worry about being a highroller. And it has been along ever since the inception of crypto gambling, so there is no worries about that.

Most of the trusted sportsbooks have their gaming license and so it is hard to find one that don't require KYC if you are a high roller. It is hard to trust a site if they are not considered reputable in the forum because you can lose money without a fight. So for me, it is better to play on a casino requiring KYC, but at least, you are confident that you will not lose money for nothing. You can also ask help from this forum if you feel you are wrongly accused by the site.