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Title: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Juggy777 on January 07, 2021, 10:22:48 AM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ReiMomo on January 07, 2021, 10:53:45 AM
Exactly, Joe Biden (Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.) is now officially won and the official president of the USA and expected to be sworn in as the 46th president of the United States on Jan. 20 with his inauguration ceremony.

I did not place a bet but for sure those legit bookmakers will pay bettors for the sake of their reputation not to ruin just an amount that they place a bet. The long wait is over and now those who are in favor of Biden will surely now get profit. Sorry for those who are in favor of Trump, they may I guess accept that they lose this presidential election of the US.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ice098 on January 07, 2021, 11:03:58 AM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013

Joe Biden officially won and sportsbook officials must pay the bettors in favour of Biden which in fact these should be given away the time where the official election result released but since unfortunately the election result was being questioned by Trump camp. And yes the certification of Joe Biden to be announced as new US president leads the pro Trump citizens to protests in the capitol of the US.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: AB de Royse777 on January 07, 2021, 11:08:36 AM
I heard some sportsbook did not pay their clients until this official decision but this really did not make sense to me. Biden won the Election considering the number of vote counting. It's the Trump administration who wanted to make the mess to be in power by any means. This was expected anyway.

By the way, the bookies I was with - paid me in not more than an hour after Biden taken over Pennsylvania. I was managed to get an odd of 1.25 or something.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: masulum on January 07, 2021, 11:17:44 AM
This is a serious problem, you may know Betfair, as of last November, they had not paid out (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-than-two-weeks-later-sportsbooks-still-have-not-paid-out-bets-from-the-2020-presidential-election-11605806427) a winning bet worth $ 1.3 million. I don't know how this case continues or not, I also still remember someone betting on a trump with fantastic value (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/british-gambler-bets-5-million-on-trump-in-biggest-ever-political-wager), this could be an unforgettable history for his life. Maybe lucky if he had hundreds millions dollars, a losing 5 million dollar bet meant nothing.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: acroman08 on January 07, 2021, 11:34:50 AM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013
good for the winners, but I think it was ridiculous that there are bookies decided to hold the winnings Biden's bettors until Biden was officially announced as the winner. I'm surprised that no one reported theses bookies to their licence provider for holding their winnings with the excuse of Biden isn't officially announced as a winner yet. these bookies caused unnecessary stress to those who bet on Biden

By the way, the bookies I was with - paid me in not more than an hour after Biden taken over Pennsylvania. I was managed to get an odd of 1.25 or something.
good for you.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: numanoid on January 07, 2021, 12:12:20 PM
Few sites have decided to pay user who bet on biden on last year, and with current bitcoin price, i can say those sites are lucky. Imagine they have pay the winner now, after joe biden officially won, they must pay bigger now. Congrats for all people who bet on biden, your winnings is great too because of bitcoin price still pumping atm


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Taskford on January 07, 2021, 12:12:27 PM
This is a serious problem, you may know Betfair, as of last November, they had not paid out (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-than-two-weeks-later-sportsbooks-still-have-not-paid-out-bets-from-the-2020-presidential-election-11605806427) a winning bet worth $ 1.3 million. I don't know how this case continues or not, I also still remember someone betting on a trump with fantastic value (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/british-gambler-bets-5-million-on-trump-in-biggest-ever-political-wager), this could be an unforgettable history for his life. Maybe lucky if he had hundreds millions dollars, a losing 5 million dollar bet meant nothing.

Why they hold the winning bets of their users? while its clearly seen on voting result that Biden wins. Maybe they have bad intention about that but maybe let see if they will pay out their winning bettors now since its a clear decision and trump can't protest that Biden is a true winner of this election. Sometimes I bet on that site but it's discouraging to see if even by now they will not pay them.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Questat on January 07, 2021, 12:29:48 PM
Few sites have decided to pay user who bet on biden on last year, and with current bitcoin price, i can say those sites are lucky. Imagine they have pay the winner now, after joe biden officially won, they must pay bigger now. Congrats for all people who bet on biden, your winnings is great too because of bitcoin price still pumping atm

It's not the sites who are lucky, it's the bettors because if they bet BTC, their btc is stuck and they receive it when the price of bitcoin is high. Imagine, you bet when bitcoin was still below $15k and now you are getting a price of $37k, that's a lot of profit, your btc increase and at the same time its value has increase more than 100%.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Saisher on January 07, 2021, 01:09:09 PM


It's not the sites who are lucky, it's the bettors because if they bet BTC, their btc is stuck and they receive it when the price of bitcoin is high. Imagine, you bet when bitcoin was still below $15k and now you are getting a price of $37k, that's a lot of profit, your btc increase and at the same time its value has increase more than 100%.


They become lucky because of the delayed payment, it works positive for them if they have received it earlier they could have lost the coin they won, they have doubled the amount they've won from that bet, the sports book should now pay all of them or they will be reported for scamming their bettors.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: numanoid on January 07, 2021, 01:25:06 PM
~snip
It's not the sites who are lucky, it's the bettors because if they bet BTC, their btc is stuck and they receive it when the price of bitcoin is high. Imagine, you bet when bitcoin was still below $15k and now you are getting a price of $37k, that's a lot of profit, your btc increase and at the same time its value has increase more than 100%.

Few sites were lucky because they have paid earlier to winner i said. And the current winner also lucky since bitcoin price still rises so high. I ever saw someone won 8 btc from bet on biden


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: robelneo on January 07, 2021, 02:17:01 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013

It's final and it's fair and in fact, they should add a bonus as a token of appreciation for waiting this long, I'm sure that those who bet are happy because they will be receiving a high dollar conversion to Bitcoin because of the recent pump, they should not delay payment because they have no reason to delay the payment or they will be reported for not honoring their commitment to their bettors.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: imstillthebest on January 07, 2021, 02:50:33 PM
I heard some sportsbook did not pay their clients until this official decision but this really did not make sense to me. Biden won the Election considering the number of vote counting. It's the Trump administration who wanted to make the mess to be in power by any means. This was expected anyway.

By the way, the bookies I was with - paid me in not more than an hour after Biden taken over Pennsylvania. I was managed to get an odd of 1.25 or something.
it is senseless for others gamblers and gambling owners to wait but a small count of gambling owners are holding back after the election case was officially declared as solved . what is the name of that gambling platform your betting ? it will be a good help for other non patient gamblers to bet on that next time because the payments on there are on time .

 congrats to the winners that will be getting their money today , having a delay do also have an advantage because you still have your money but others that have been paid last year already spent their money.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: jademaxsuy on January 07, 2021, 03:00:34 PM
It was declared already in the cabinet hearing though it was news that the cabinet session headed by the current VP had been delayed and transfered due to the supporters of PTrump rallied and even went inside the Capitol. So sad, that the USA had been acting like a third world country where they are now like being greedy for power. If you can prove that there is a wrong doings on the election then one must do it in the proper way.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: masulum on January 07, 2021, 03:15:41 PM
Why they hold the winning bets of their users? while its clearly seen on voting result that Biden wins. Maybe they have bad intention about that but maybe let see if they will pay out their winning bettors now since its a clear decision and trump can't protest that Biden is a true winner of this election. Sometimes I bet on that site but it's discouraging to see if even by now they will not pay them.
Well I'm also don't really know why Betfair postponed the pay out for the winner. If they are waiting for official statement from white house, that make sense. Let's see few days/week to go, maybe Betfair ready to pay them. Today I'm trying to find any source about the case but still not getting any clue



Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: aioc on January 07, 2021, 03:23:30 PM


 congrats to the winners that will be getting their money today , having a delay do also have an advantage because you still have your money but others that have been paid last year already spent their money.

It has become a blessing for those who have not yet received their payment and now they are going to received it ten times or more of the price that they are going to receive it, I hope all of them will got their winnings they deserve it, it's a long wait for them but it's worth it.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: hahay on January 07, 2021, 03:52:47 PM
Congratulations to the winner, I personally assumed it beforehand that Biden was the winner but indeed, the official decision has been a long wait. I just hope that whoever the winners keep on supporting each other and not dropping each other because that would just mess up, at least maybe it has been a problem so far that makes bettors have to wait a long time to get the result.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: boltz on January 07, 2021, 03:59:30 PM
Why would you choose to bet on a suspicious site from the 1st time ? There are a lot of legit bookmakers right now that already paid their clients when it comes to USA presidential election. However, I know there was a previous thread about this matter and I'm curious to find out. Did the bookies paid the users after all ? The official decision is here so they have no more excuses.



Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ice098 on January 07, 2021, 04:17:49 PM
Why they hold the winning bets of their users? while its clearly seen on voting result that Biden wins. Maybe they have bad intention about that but maybe let see if they will pay out their winning bettors now since its a clear decision and trump can't protest that Biden is a true winner of this election. Sometimes I bet on that site but it's discouraging to see if even by now they will not pay them.
Well I'm also don't really know why Betfair postponed the pay out for the winner. If they are waiting for official statement from white house, that make sense. Let's see few days/week to go, maybe Betfair ready to pay them. Today I'm trying to find any source about the case but still not getting any clue



Well maybe the proper announcement or certification of the new elected US president was the reason why Betfair postponed the pay out of the winner but it does took so long for the winners to wait. Well it is also make sense to both the betting site and the bettors which make sense to wait and worth it. However, if we would compare it to other betting  sites which released the winners pay out a day ago after the election vote counting and preliminary announcing that Biden leads in the voting count higher than Trump.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Insanerman on January 07, 2021, 06:08:23 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013

Thank you for reminding! I'm really out of the news and I've just remembered I bet on him against Trump. It took to long to finalize those results (pandemic and safety precautions) and many might have been out of the radar in the past few weeks, noting that it had been holidays. I've seen that I've already paid (can't really tell which platform) and thank you for reminding me I have bets in this game!  ;D


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 07, 2021, 09:58:09 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013
Thanks for sharing on the update bro!

This had been a debate for a while now about on whose truly the winner of that presidential election.It had been known initially but due to opposition is trying to stir things up but now im expecting on what
would be their excuses till this very moment.

For bookies that still holding up bets then this is the best time to release those winnings and pay up those who bet on Biden and since the declaration or official result had known then
theres no excuse for them to make more delays.

This will surely shut off into those people who do daydream that Trump might still get this position.  ;D


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: marioantonini on January 07, 2021, 10:04:31 PM
it seems to me that betfair has already closed and paid the winning biden market, but there are two left open

Trump Specials - Trump Exit Date 2
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.138799270

Trump To Leave Before End of 1st Term
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/politics/market/1.129133401

I believe the last valid day for these bets is January 19th, as Biden will officially take office as president starting January 20th 2021. the early dropout odd is 1.1, so it's not low


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 07, 2021, 10:14:53 PM


 congrats to the winners that will be getting their money today , having a delay do also have an advantage because you still have your money but others that have been paid last year already spent their money.

It has become a blessing for those who have not yet received their payment and now they are going to received it ten times or more of the price that they are going to receive it, I hope all of them will got their winnings they deserve it, it's a long wait for them but it's worth it.

that's actually the benefit of waiting for so long on some of these casinos. because some casinos, paid their players much early and more then likely, most players already spent those winnings. whereas, those players who just received their winnings got their money like almost twice its value in the current market. who would have thought that we will hit 40k this early? their waiting paid off though.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Fredomago on January 07, 2021, 10:40:05 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013

Thank you for reminding! I'm really out of the news and I've just remembered I bet on him against Trump. It took to long to finalize those results (pandemic and safety precautions) and many might have been out of the radar in the past few weeks, noting that it had been holidays. I've seen that I've already paid (can't really tell which platform) and thank you for reminding me I have bets in this game!  ;D

Good for you if you already recieved your winnings, as Biden officially won the Presidency. Those sportsgambling  house who still keeping the funds of their bettors can now decide and pay everyone.

There's no reason now to hold lucky for those who will recieve their money as the value of each crypto currency against
USD is really huge, blessing in disguise as the house will pay them the amount in crypto and not in USD based as the
bets happened using crypto assets.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Kelvinid on January 07, 2021, 10:49:18 PM
Congratulations to Biden's supporters.

But I'm not sure if is really a need to congratulate gamblers who put their bets into scam bookies. That for sure, it was the sad wins for them as they can never get their winning. Well, I hope some gamblers could get it from a legit site as it was officially sealed already. This gives a lesson for the gamblers not to get excited in putting their bets into not known bookies who offer bigger odds, that must have to choose those who has been trusted by the majority.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Oilacris on January 07, 2021, 10:50:20 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013

Thank you for reminding! I'm really out of the news and I've just remembered I bet on him against Trump. It took to long to finalize those results (pandemic and safety precautions) and many might have been out of the radar in the past few weeks, noting that it had been holidays. I've seen that I've already paid (can't really tell which platform) and thank you for reminding me I have bets in this game!  ;D

Good for you if you already recieved your winnings, as Biden officially won the Presidency. Those sportsgambling  house who still keeping the funds of their bettors can now decide and pay everyone.

There's no reason now to hold lucky for those who will recieve their money as the value of each crypto currency against
USD is really huge, blessing in disguise as the house will pay them the amount in crypto and not in USD based as the
bets happened using crypto assets.
Lots will surely be on rage if those bets would be paid up in USD and of course sportsbook will be paying off basing on the amount of crypto that they had bet specially now that BTC is mooning then thats still worth of a wait.

Its just right for them to pay on what they do owe and they had just holding into something which is really an obvious win but still hoping that there might be such changes of decisions and wouldnt really pay off something.

About those new lines offered mentioned above then that one is a bit interesting.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Ryker1 on January 07, 2021, 10:50:50 PM
Well, I dont name the site but I read last week about this site that announced they had someone place a bet about $1.32 million and the site would pay out $2 million to the winner, but again they don't disclose the name for the security reason.
Thank you for reminding OP, its been a month and we almost forgot the event but I don't think bettors will forget for that presidential election, perhaps they are very excited to get their winnings on exchange and waiting for the delayed payouts. --Congrats to those who choose Joe Biden.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Lordhermes on January 07, 2021, 10:56:05 PM
So you trying to say that no bookies had paid their winning gamblers untill today? I'm not sure which ever one pays their predictors but I'm curious as to why the wait to win a certain bet. I have never find interest in predicting on incidence that would never give me results within 24 hrs later, I can't be patient enough to wait for the outcome after a month plus, it's something outrageous to me. But we'll, congratulations to Joe Biden and Cabinets members.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ralle14 on January 07, 2021, 11:01:06 PM
Why would you choose to bet on a suspicious site from the 1st time ? There are a lot of legit bookmakers right now that already paid their clients when it comes to USA presidential election. However, I know there was a previous thread about this matter and I'm curious to find out. Did the bookies paid the users after all ? The official decision is here so they have no more excuses.
Yes they did eventually pay out I think most of the bookies settled the bets mid December since that's when the confirmation came out.

Why they hold the winning bets of their users? while its clearly seen on voting result that Biden wins. Maybe they have bad intention about that but maybe let see if they will pay out their winning bettors now since its a clear decision and trump can't protest that Biden is a true winner of this election. Sometimes I bet on that site but it's discouraging to see if even by now they will not pay them.
It's because at the time there's no official announcement even though the result is already there. Afaik they've settled the bet last month and other bookies like Cloudbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279076.msg55839855#msg55839855) and BetBTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279076.msg55835368#msg55835368) followed as well.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: KennyR on January 07, 2021, 11:04:26 PM
So you trying to say that no bookies had paid their winning gamblers untill today? I'm not sure which ever one pays their predictors but I'm curious as to why the wait to win a certain bet. I have never find interest in predicting on incidence that would never give me results within 24 hrs later, I can't be patient enough to wait for the outcome after a month plus, it's something outrageous to me. But we'll, congratulations to Joe Biden and Cabinets members.
That's right and it's your mind. Everyone won't be the same. As we've got interest over sports betting and other forms of Casinos, there are people who are much interested in getting into politics based betting. This is the reason why people always go for such bets where it takes long time to get the result. Most of the legit and trusted gambling sites have settled the wins, those sites planned for cheating could've kept hold of winning funds.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: mirakal on January 07, 2021, 11:17:34 PM
So you trying to say that no bookies had paid their winning gamblers untill today? I'm not sure which ever one pays their predictors but I'm curious as to why the wait to win a certain bet. I have never find interest in predicting on incidence that would never give me results within 24 hrs later, I can't be patient enough to wait for the outcome after a month plus, it's something outrageous to me. But we'll, congratulations to Joe Biden and Cabinets members.
That's right and it's your mind. Everyone won't be the same. As we've got interest over sports betting and other forms of Casinos, there are people who are much interested in getting into politics based betting. This is the reason why people always go for such bets where it takes long time to get the result. Most of the legit and trusted gambling sites have settled the wins, those sites planned for cheating could've kept hold of winning funds.
The delayed of grading is not actually the fault of the gambling sites, they have rules to follow and they'll implement that regardless of the amount of bet. Now that we have this official announcement already, they need to settled and made some payouts immediately, any excuses now is not anymore valid.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: agustina2 on January 07, 2021, 11:30:32 PM
The delay is for assurance that everything will take place smoothly and officially.

But by the way, I heard the delay was only on fiat online websites. What crypto sportsbook delayed the payout for this event?



Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Alucard1 on January 08, 2021, 04:15:01 AM
This is really good news for every bettor who bet on the side of Biden especially if they bet using bitcoin, they have earned a huge amount of money right now as what the value of bitcoin right now, so lucky for all those bettors who bet by the means of bitcoin, just hoping that you have bet with a legit sportsbook so you can still get paid with the bitcoin you have to deserve to receive.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: shoreno on January 08, 2021, 04:32:55 AM


 congrats to the winners that will be getting their money today , having a delay do also have an advantage because you still have your money but others that have been paid last year already spent their money.

It has become a blessing for those who have not yet received their payment and now they are going to received it ten times or more of the price that they are going to receive it, I hope all of them will got their winnings they deserve it, it's a long wait for them but it's worth it.

that's actually the benefit of waiting for so long on some of these casinos. because some casinos, paid their players much early and more then likely, most players already spent those winnings. whereas, those players who just received their winnings got their money like almost twice its value in the current market. who would have thought that we will hit 40k this early? their waiting paid off though.

it turns out that the supposed to be blaming that will happen are now replaced with love haha . the saying is really true that good things come for boys/those who wait and another one is this is like a blessing in disguise  . it only becomes bad if you bet on a bookie that caters usd and fiat bets only not btc or any crypto because waiting for you dont really made sense , your payout are going to be the same in terms of value but i hope that those gamblers will realize that this is how good btc and crypto is when used in gambling .


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: kolesozw on January 08, 2021, 05:27:43 AM
Exactly, Joe Biden (Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.) is now officially won and the official president of the USA and expected to be sworn in as the 46th president of the United States on Jan. 20 with his inauguration ceremony.

I did not place a bet but for sure those legit bookmakers will pay bettors for the sake of their reputation not to ruin just an amount that they place a bet. The long wait is over and now those who are in favor of Biden will surely now get profit. Sorry for those who are in favor of Trump, they may I guess accept that they lose this presidential election of the US.

Actually, Biden is not "the official president". He will become POTUS, as you said - on Jan 20th. Until then, the POTUS is still Trump.

Anyway, with the official certification of Biden's victory, all bookies MUST settle all bets in his favor and pay the betted amounts.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: michellee on January 08, 2021, 05:31:56 AM
Congratulations to you who won those bet. I hope the sportsbook pays you, and you can withdraw your winning money. I wonder how much money the gamblers won from that bet because I am sure they are very happy to see they are one of the winners. Finally, the USA have a new President, and I hope that the new President can works for their country and trying to give peace to their people and for the world.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: peter0425 on January 08, 2021, 07:27:27 AM
Congratulations to you who won those bet. I hope the sportsbook pays you, and you can withdraw your winning money. I wonder how much money the gamblers won from that bet because I am sure they are very happy to see they are one of the winners. Finally, the USA have a new President, and I hope that the new President can works for their country and trying to give peace to their people and for the world.
I have not contributed in this Election and Good for me so the Hassle does not come in my Way .

But Congratulations to those who Won and already claimed their Winnings , and to those who are still in BS site , just marked those gambling site and prevent from Playing again whole your life .


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: jrrsparkles on January 08, 2021, 07:36:24 AM
This is really good news for every bettor who bet on the side of Biden especially if they bet using bitcoin, they have earned a huge amount of money right now as what the value of bitcoin right now, so lucky for all those bettors who bet by the means of bitcoin, just hoping that you have bet with a legit sportsbook so you can still get paid with the bitcoin you have to deserve to receive.
Yeah, reputed sportsbook can't hold anything for any reason now, only thing I am not sure how much people actually bet on election predictions in bitcointalk, probably very few in numbers even though the Crypto community is huge here.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: pungopete468 on January 08, 2021, 08:51:16 AM
Just got curious does sports book website is not yet paying the bettors for placing bet on Joe Biden? Looks like the US was having a riot and everything seems not good I hope the bookies would be able to pay now their bettors.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: carlisle1 on January 08, 2021, 09:04:58 AM
Just got curious does sports book website is not yet paying the bettors for placing bet on Joe Biden? Looks like the US was having a riot and everything seems not good I hope the bookies would be able to pay now their bettors.
Just take a look in some post above and you'll see that there are some who has already Paid and some are not .

Maybe the factor here is the Legit reputation  ofthe site where they Put the Bets , and How much they are gonna win after waiting this long , Month long waiting .


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Questat on January 08, 2021, 09:09:47 AM
Just got curious does sports book website is not yet paying the bettors for placing bet on Joe Biden? Looks like the US was having a riot and everything seems not good I hope the bookies would be able to pay now their bettors.
Just take a look in some post above and you'll see that there are some who has already Paid and some are not .

Maybe the factor here is the Legit reputation  ofthe site where they Put the Bets , and How much they are gonna win after waiting this long , Month long waiting .

If there are sites who have not paid the winning bets, I guess they should be posted here, people has to be aware about their reputation and for them to avoid getting scammed. Big sites normally pay, in fact, they don't lose money here, there are winners and losers and since they facilitate bets, they should make money from it.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: leea-1334 on January 08, 2021, 10:02:56 AM
Seems a little crazy that there are some sportsbooks who have not paid out yet when the results had been pretty clear from the start! Especially when Biden bets were a lot lower than Trump bets (from what I can remember).

What ever the case, probably the most long awaited political election betting market I have ever seen:)


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: qory on January 08, 2021, 10:15:44 AM
Do they already announce it? For what I have known they already announced it a long time ago they supposed to pay the participants Trump couldn't just accept his defeat. I haven't seen some thread about the bookies not paying them for this event.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ice098 on January 08, 2021, 01:27:09 PM
Just got curious does sports book website is not yet paying the bettors for placing bet on Joe Biden? Looks like the US was having a riot and everything seems not good I hope the bookies would be able to pay now their bettors.
Just take a look in some post above and you'll see that there are some who has already Paid and some are not .

Maybe the factor here is the Legit reputation  ofthe site where they Put the Bets , and How much they are gonna win after waiting this long , Month long waiting .

If legit reputation of the betting site will be the bottom line here why some of them has not yet released the money or prize for the winners then this might be a great concern for the bettors itself and sadly counted as their loses even if they have winned in their bets. It is the saddest part of betting once you've been got scammed by the betting site you've trusted to place your bet and hoping that you may get what you have deserve but then nothing will be given to you.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on January 08, 2021, 01:38:30 PM
This is exactly it. Any betting site which offers odds on Biden vs Trump should already be closing the deal with those betting for Biden winning and those betting for Trump losing. There is no way it will be the other way around. Biden is now officially declared as the 46th president of the United States of America.

Any appeal from the side of Trump is another case. Bets should not be dragged on because of Trump's useless appeals.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Zackgeno96 on January 08, 2021, 01:44:44 PM
The results have been finalize already even if their are protesters outside the capitol and other sports book have already paid the winnings for Biden but I also heard that there are bookies that are still waiting for this final result in order to give the winning for Biden.

As long as you have bet in the right site then I am pretty sure that you can get your winning money like stake platform where they release the winnings early which is good as at the end Biden wins that election.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: bitbollo on January 08, 2021, 02:40:23 PM
This is a serious problem, you may know Betfair, as of last November, they had not paid out (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-than-two-weeks-later-sportsbooks-still-have-not-paid-out-bets-from-the-2020-presidential-election-11605806427) a winning bet worth $ 1.3 million. I don't know how this case continues or not, I also still remember someone betting on a trump with fantastic value (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/british-gambler-bets-5-million-on-trump-in-biggest-ever-political-wager), this could be an unforgettable history for his life. Maybe lucky if he had hundreds millions dollars, a losing 5 million dollar bet meant nothing.

Betfair has already payed their bets (here in Italy) and market is CLOSED.
This news was from November and I think it's not just an excuse by them but a serious problem since once a bet has been payed it's clearly impossible get funds back.
Congratulations to winners!


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: plvbob0070 on January 08, 2021, 03:48:20 PM
Just got curious does sports book website is not yet paying the bettors for placing bet on Joe Biden? Looks like the US was having a riot and everything seems not good I hope the bookies would be able to pay now their bettors.
Others who bet on the presidential election mentioned here that some sportsbook is holding their winnings because there is still no official declaration of the election. Although it was really pretty obvious that Biden already won but since Trump just can't accept his defeat. He keeps saying that there's something about the election, it probably causes more time before they can declare the next president. This is one of the negative sides of betting on this kind of event because it takes a longer time compared to sports.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: john_nautica on January 08, 2021, 04:56:54 PM
Although appeals are being made by the Trump party, the official results of the election are already released and also the inauguration ceremony of Joe Biden is already set, therefore it is clear that Joe Biden won. Hence, regardless of the emerging political issues, those who made bet for Joe Biden should have been paid by now. I agree that this particular event may determine the reputation of many betting sites. And those who are proven as scammers, shall be posted immediately.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: kryptqnick on January 08, 2021, 05:49:09 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013
I wonder which sportsbooks are left that didn't pay up until now. Mine paid a couple of days after the election day (Sportsbet.io), so I've forgotten about this matter a long time ago. But I do remember that back then quite a lot of people who chose other websites did not get their winnings due to the uncertainties surrounding this 2020 election.

The day of the announcement of the winner of the US presidential election was insane on its own, with those radical Trump supporters briefly taking over the Capitol. 2020 was crazy, but now it seems that 2021 might be even crazier.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: TheGreatPython on January 08, 2021, 06:06:06 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013
It is funny to see Trump fans get mad about not getting the election, there are still millions of people who believe that Trump won the election but someone a fraud was made and he didn't actually lost. The reality is that, he lost, and now we have guarantee of that.

It was obvious from day one, all those places that didn't pay out didn't do that for two main reasons. Either they were trump fans as well and believed that he didn't actually lose, which could be the case for some of them, and the other one is that they have seen congress impeach Trump but senate didn't cared and kept him president, even after he was literally charged with a crime, republican senate said "I don't care, I would rather have a criminal in presidency then ... well republican vice president", so they assumed even though Biden won, maybe republican judges and senate and vp would do everything in their power to change it illegally.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Wenbing on January 08, 2021, 06:10:28 PM
Exactly, Joe Biden (Joseph Robinette Biden Jr.) is now officially won and the official president of the USA and expected to be sworn in as the 46th president of the United States on Jan. 20 with his inauguration ceremony.

I did not place a bet but for sure those legit bookmakers will pay bettors for the sake of their reputation not to ruin just an amount that they place a bet. The long wait is over and now those who are in favor of Biden will surely now get profit. Sorry for those who are in favor of Trump, they may I guess accept that they lose this presidential election of the US.

You see DONALD TRUMP was one time in 2020 impeached, that is a signal that he won't win the presidential election.

So, the election itself confirms it that Trump can't continue as the president of the United States.

So, voting for Joe Bidden is always the right prediction.



This is really good news for every bettor who bet on the side of Biden especially if they bet using bitcoin, they have earned a huge amount of money right now as what the value of bitcoin right now, so lucky for all those bettors who bet by the means of bitcoin, just hoping that you have bet with a legit sportsbook so you can still get paid with the bitcoin you have to deserve to receive.
Yeah, reputed sportsbook can't hold anything for any reason now, only thing I am not sure how much people actually bet on election predictions in bitcointalk, probably very few in numbers even though the Crypto community is huge here.

Does election prediction or speculation really work?

Well, I think it can work in advanced countries or countries that have stable electioneering process, but in developing countries where elections are rigged, it can't work.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: cabalism13 on January 08, 2021, 06:14:55 PM
Just got curious does sports book website is not yet paying the bettors for placing bet on Joe Biden? Looks like the US was having a riot and everything seems not good I hope the bookies would be able to pay now their bettors.
Just take a look in some post above and you'll see that there are some who has already Paid and some are not .

Maybe the factor here is the Legit reputation  ofthe site where they Put the Bets , and How much they are gonna win after waiting this long , Month long waiting .

If there are sites who have not paid the winning bets, I guess they should be posted here, people has to be aware about their reputation and for them to avoid getting scammed. Big sites normally pay, in fact, they don't lose money here, there are winners and losers and since they facilitate bets, they should make money from it.
And still haven't  heard of any Gambling sites that didn't  pay up on this game,... I wonder if there's  any existing ones who'll do that, besides it has been already decided from the start, it was just the final recounts that we've been waiting AFAIK... 🤔



Does election prediction or speculation really work?
ofcourse it does, even if the election can be rigged still many people weren't  be able to know whose gonna win...


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Kakmakr on January 08, 2021, 06:30:07 PM
Well this drama over who won and who did not win... made me to decide that I would never gamble on elections ever again. It will be interesting to see what the sites will do that paid out early for a Trump win. Will they take the losses and pay out for a Biden win too or will they stick to their initial decision to just pay for a Trump win?

I think most casinos will also rethink the whole "election" betting thing in the future, because this caused a lot of damage. ( Most Sport betting people are pee'ed off with the casinos indecisiveness.  ::)


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: cabron on January 08, 2021, 06:35:58 PM
If the sportbook says they have to wait til Biden swears auth. I think this is also the ultimate proof that he really won lol

They still could find an issue about this, after all, there will be riots and US government will likely have crisis there. The sportsbook could delay by an excuse like if Biden still hasn't officially sat there and stayed on the Whitehouse, he isn't the president and no one yet won lol.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: cabalism13 on January 08, 2021, 07:49:10 PM
If the sportbook says they have to wait til Biden swears auth. I think this is also the ultimate proof that he really won lol

They still could find an issue about this, after all, there will be riots and US government will likely have crisis there. The sportsbook could delay by an excuse like if Biden still hasn't officially sat there and stayed on the Whitehouse, he isn't the president and no one yet won lol.
they just want to avoid something that's eally unnecessary,... Hoping it could go well despite of the riots going on...


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Quidat on January 08, 2021, 07:53:14 PM
If the sportbook says they have to wait til Biden swears auth. I think this is also the ultimate proof that he really won lol

They still could find an issue about this, after all, there will be riots and US government will likely have crisis there. The sportsbook could delay by an excuse like if Biden still hasn't officially sat there and stayed on the Whitehouse, he isn't the president and no one yet won lol.
they just want to avoid something that's eally unnecessary,... Hoping it could go well despite of the riots going on...

It would really be an obvious thing if they do still consider on making this as a reason for them not to pay those winners who do bet on Biden. They are just trying to avoid on paying
them in the first place.I dont see any possible scenarios that they wont pay off.So far we arent seeing any complaints into this forum as of this moment for bookies not to
pay up their pending bet winnings.Its already been declared and its just right for them to released of those winnings and accept this damn whole thing.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Smartvirus on January 08, 2021, 07:57:58 PM
I heard some sportsbook did not pay their clients until this official decision but this really did not make sense to me. Biden won the Election considering the number of vote counting.
That's always the thing about politics and politicians. It's always a game even after the finish line has been crossed, they still look out for loopholes to capitalize on for a discredit and desqualifing factor untill one party actually gives up or wins beyond all reasonable doubt. A dirty game they call it, what the future of a nation and all its citizens is dependent upon!!!

Well, it's always best for an official news before the release or payment of what is owed because if things go sideways and tends to favour the bookmakers after payments have been made, almost zero customers would like to return winnings and it would be a bad debt on the bookmarkers part.

So, bookmarkers might just start making there payments, lol...


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: OgNasty on January 08, 2021, 08:07:35 PM
Maybe those folks who stormed congress had some bets on Trump they weren't ready to concede yet and wanted to make a last ditch effort to get themselves a win.  (kidding of course)

It does appear that Biden is now officially the next President of the United States.  I hope that January 20th comes and goes without any more disasters.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: chaser15 on January 08, 2021, 10:07:09 PM
I'm sure all of the bets are now settled. If there are still any bookies that didn't settle the bet yet, should be flagged as untrustworthy.

Follow-up electoral protest, filed complaints and any related cases is another story. No reason to delay as Biden officially won.

Trump's supporters should accept it and move on.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Twinkledoe on January 08, 2021, 10:25:48 PM
I'm sure all of the bets are now settled. If there are still any bookies that didn't settle the bet yet, should be flagged as untrustworthy.

Follow-up electoral protest, filed complaints and any related cases is another story. No reason to delay as Biden officially won.

Trump's supporters should accept it and move on.

Trump already accepted that Biden is the US President now. So his supporters should stop doing anymore disturbance. With regards to sportsbooks, I hope they already paid those players who are waiting for so long to finalize this event. The congress already certified Biden, so there's no reason for them to hold the funds of their players. Let them enjoy the price of bitcoin right now.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Saint-loup on January 08, 2021, 10:38:40 PM
I'm sure all of the bets are now settled. If there are still any bookies that didn't settle the bet yet, should be flagged as untrustworthy.

Follow-up electoral protest, filed complaints and any related cases is another story. No reason to delay as Biden officially won.

Trump's supporters should accept it and move on.

Trump already accepted that Biden is the US President now. So his supporters should stop doing anymore disturbance. With regards to sportsbooks, I hope they already paid those players who are waiting for so long to finalize this event. The congress already certified Biden, so there's no reason for them to hold the funds of their players. Let them enjoy the price of bitcoin right now.
LOL why his supporters should stop doing disturbance as you say? This country is a democracy, if the election is fraudulent they are right to protest. Even Russia laughed at US by saying that their voting system is archaic.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: johhnyUA on January 08, 2021, 10:55:46 PM
I heard some sportsbook did not pay their clients until this official decision but this really did not make sense to me. Biden won the Election considering the number of vote counting. It's the Trump administration who wanted to make the mess to be in power by any means. This was expected anyway.

By the way, the bookies I was with - paid me in not more than an hour after Biden taken over Pennsylvania. I was managed to get an odd of 1.25 or something.

ANd some books (like our local) paid everything very fast, after results of state count (if i remember correctly it was something like 7-8 of November). But whatever, I've bet on Trump and it was obvious that courts and nothing else (like what happened yesterday) will not help him  :(
So pitty


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Saint-loup on January 08, 2021, 10:59:08 PM
I'm sure all of the bets are now settled. If there are still any bookies that didn't settle the bet yet, should be flagged as untrustworthy.

Follow-up electoral protest, filed complaints and any related cases is another story. No reason to delay as Biden officially won.

Trump's supporters should accept it and move on.

Trump already accepted that Biden is the US President now. So his supporters should stop doing anymore disturbance. With regards to sportsbooks, I hope they already paid those players who are waiting for so long to finalize this event. The congress already certified Biden, so there's no reason for them to hold the funds of their players. Let them enjoy the price of bitcoin right now.
Lol.. we don't know yet if they were storming there because they lost to a bet but I think there's something that pushing them to do those riot. I don't find any valid reason why they have to do it when all of the decision were made as the counting of votes is final. Creating/making riot/chaos in the congress doesn't solve anything but instead add some fuel of the fire. I'm sure they were paid to do it and I believe it's not relevant to the bets of Trump vs Biden.
You think protesters have been paid to do that?  ???
By who? Several of them have been shot to death, like Ashly this poor young lady  :-[. And many others are now in jail for a long time.

https://external.fcdg2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQEbW50NYocehEdB&w=540&h=282&url=https%3A%2F%2Fktla.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F4%2F2021%2F01%2Fab-ftd.jpg%3Fw%3D1280&cfs=1&upscale=1&fallback=news_d_placeholder_publisher&_nc_cb=1&_nc_hash=AQHrcdWXTGYtekVC

[NSFW] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9oThRuMVs


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: AB de Royse777 on January 09, 2021, 02:44:29 PM
ANd some books (like our local) paid everything very fast, after results of state count (if i remember correctly it was something like 7-8 of November). But whatever, I've bet on Trump and it was obvious that courts and nothing else (like what happened yesterday) will not help him  :(
So pitty
Bookies in the local market paid their slips after the vote count. It was some online bookies who were holding up their clients as far as I know. It was not nice though and if that would happen with me then I would be pissed LOL


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Cling18 on January 09, 2021, 02:59:24 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013


It has been a long agony of waiting for Biden betters and they honestly deserve to get paid accordingly. The results have been released and although bad things happened, Trump and his supporters should accept their defeat. Our local sportsbook has released the payments a few days ago and that's a good thing. I hope that everyone who bet for Biden would get their rewards as well.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: iamsheikhadil on January 09, 2021, 04:46:40 PM
This is a serious problem, you may know Betfair, as of last November, they had not paid out (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-than-two-weeks-later-sportsbooks-still-have-not-paid-out-bets-from-the-2020-presidential-election-11605806427) a winning bet worth $ 1.3 million. I don't know how this case continues or not, I also still remember someone betting on a trump with fantastic value (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/british-gambler-bets-5-million-on-trump-in-biggest-ever-political-wager), this could be an unforgettable history for his life. Maybe lucky if he had hundreds millions dollars, a losing 5 million dollar bet meant nothing.

This is already official, any betting sites that are still not paying or grading the bets can be sued. I wish I bet big btc on biden and just got paid today so I will enjoy he value of bitcoin, the delayed of payment of winning would not make people complain because bitcoin is bullish.

Lol, if I had placed a bet on Biden when odds were 6x on Biden , I would have collected so much money, and yeah with a delayed payment, I would probably even have my full 1 btc by now which means $40k almost! A dream that just slipped by :P then again, can't really blame myself. Who thought Trump may not pull another 2016?!


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Vaskiy on January 09, 2021, 11:44:47 PM
This is a serious problem, you may know Betfair, as of last November, they had not paid out (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-than-two-weeks-later-sportsbooks-still-have-not-paid-out-bets-from-the-2020-presidential-election-11605806427) a winning bet worth $ 1.3 million. I don't know how this case continues or not, I also still remember someone betting on a trump with fantastic value (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/british-gambler-bets-5-million-on-trump-in-biggest-ever-political-wager), this could be an unforgettable history for his life. Maybe lucky if he had hundreds millions dollars, a losing 5 million dollar bet meant nothing.

This is already official, any betting sites that are still not paying or grading the bets can be sued. I wish I bet big btc on biden and just got paid today so I will enjoy he value of bitcoin, the delayed of payment of winning would not make people complain because bitcoin is bullish.

Lol, if I had placed a bet on Biden when odds were 6x on Biden , I would have collected so much money, and yeah with a delayed payment, I would probably even have my full 1 btc by now which means $40k almost! A dream that just slipped by :P then again, can't really blame myself. Who thought Trump may not pull another 2016?!
Opportunity missed is missed, myself had similar experience during the previous US Presidential election of 2016. By the time everyone were predicting about the winner as Hilary Clinton. My mind said it was Trump, and the odds were above 10. Once missed is missed, lets hope some other opportunity exists.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Lanatsa on January 09, 2021, 11:51:20 PM
I'm sure all of the bets are now settled. If there are still any bookies that didn't settle the bet yet, should be flagged as untrustworthy.

Follow-up electoral protest, filed complaints and any related cases is another story. No reason to delay as Biden officially won.

Trump's supporters should accept it and move on.

Trump already accepted that Biden is the US President now. So his supporters should stop doing anymore disturbance. With regards to sportsbooks, I hope they already paid those players who are waiting for so long to finalize this event. The congress already certified Biden, so there's no reason for them to hold the funds of their players. Let them enjoy the price of bitcoin right now.
Lol.. we don't know yet if they were storming there because they lost to a bet but I think there's something that pushing them to do those riot. I don't find any valid reason why they have to do it when all of the decision were made as the counting of votes is final. Creating/making riot/chaos in the congress doesn't solve anything but instead add some fuel of the fire. I'm sure they were paid to do it and I believe it's not relevant to the bets of Trump vs Biden.
You think protesters have been paid to do that?  ???
By who? Several of them have been shot to death, like Ashly this poor young lady  :-[. And many others are now in jail for a long time.

https://external.fcdg2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQEbW50NYocehEdB&w=540&h=282&url=https%3A%2F%2Fktla.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F4%2F2021%2F01%2Fab-ftd.jpg%3Fw%3D1280&cfs=1&upscale=1&fallback=news_d_placeholder_publisher&_nc_cb=1&_nc_hash=AQHrcdWXTGYtekVC

[NSFW] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ9oThRuMVs
Due to desperation on fighting on what they  do believe and trying to fight on? If you do value up your life then you wont really be making those kind of
actions where you do try to breached out through window even if its clear that there some guns pointing at you on the other side.

I don't believe for someone to do this for the sake of money. Money wont really be a basis from time to time in situations like this.

I had watched the video and she was shot when she tried to go inside through that door.Poor lady.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: boyptc on January 10, 2021, 02:27:12 AM
Yeah, I've read that news that it's finally done and America has now Biden as their president.

For the record, are there sports book that hasn't paid their players who have won just after this announcement?


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Quidat on January 10, 2021, 08:03:56 PM
Who bet Biden will get money for sure but the question is the sportsbook that they use is legit? The election in the US last year is unpredictable because they are close voting to each other and many people watch the counting votes who gonna win and even me I vote for joe to win even Im not Citizens of the US I really like to win him to the presidential elections.
For gamblings sake then it doesnt really need for you to be a citizen before you can make a bet yet there are lots of events doesnt necessarily for you to get attached before
you can make a bet.In regarding with legit sportsbook then its just normal that you would stick out for the reputable and best ones.If you do choose those shady ones then
expect that you would really be having some headache when it comes to releasing of those winnings.There no more excuses for those books
for them to tell because its clear as water on whats the result.No more alibis and reasoning that they can pay off or release those winnings.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Sithara007 on January 11, 2021, 03:40:44 AM
Maybe those folks who stormed congress had some bets on Trump they weren't ready to concede yet and wanted to make a last ditch effort to get themselves a win.  (kidding of course)

It does appear that Biden is now officially the next President of the United States.  I hope that January 20th comes and goes without any more disasters.

If the margin was vary narrow, then there was some justification in delaying the reward distribution. But Biden won the election with such a large margin, with more than 300 electoral votes. Ideally the gambling sites would have processed all the outstanding POTUS bets latest by the second week of November. Another risk is that a correction can occur at anytime in the cryptocurrency market. If the distribution is delayed unnecessarily, then the users may suffer in the end due to volatile exchange rates.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Lorence.xD on January 11, 2021, 03:59:48 AM
This is a serious problem, you may know Betfair, as of last November, they had not paid out (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/more-than-two-weeks-later-sportsbooks-still-have-not-paid-out-bets-from-the-2020-presidential-election-11605806427) a winning bet worth $ 1.3 million. I don't know how this case continues or not, I also still remember someone betting on a trump with fantastic value (https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/british-gambler-bets-5-million-on-trump-in-biggest-ever-political-wager), this could be an unforgettable history for his life. Maybe lucky if he had hundreds millions dollars, a losing 5 million dollar bet meant nothing.
That amount of money needs an involvement of authorities, 1.3 million USD is a lot of money and Betfair not doing their part on paying it is a little scammy in my opinion. Maybe if the winner tries to settle the dispute by issuing a subpoena or some suing things I think that Betfair needs to comply if they want to keep their hands touching cold steel cage bars.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 11, 2021, 12:11:46 PM
Who bet Biden will get money for sure but the question is the sportsbook that they use is legit? The election in the US last year is unpredictable because they are close voting to each other and many people watch the counting votes who gonna win and even me I vote for joe to win even Im not Citizens of the US I really like to win him to the presidential elections.

We do not know who place a bet for Biden, so we do not know who the winner is. If other members here place that bet and win, he can come out and tell us how much money he owns and hope that he can withdraw his win money. I think that will be a lot of money that he can win, but that will depend on how much money he bet on that event.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: fiulpro on January 11, 2021, 01:45:45 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013

Ofcourse the sites have already started paying the people out but it did go one too long. The havock that Trump created in the beginning and the problems that the riots are creating right now were not enough to actually let Trump win thank god.
Right now even if he would have magically won he would have been removed for sure from the white house forcefully.
Read this : https://www.google.com/amp/s/wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/international/top-republican-says-donald-trump-committed-impeachable-offences-121011000070_1.html (https://www.google.com/amp/s/wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/international/top-republican-says-donald-trump-committed-impeachable-offences-121011000070_1.html)
Not only that , the former president was banned from the twitter forever and at the same time for his supporters all hope is lost.
I myself am not living in US but fully aware of the situation and thus so would be your bookie or site where you placed your bets therefore if they haven't started paying you yet then that means you have to inform them of the inconvenience they are causing you , talk to the customer service and if it does not go well , go to the consumer court if it's legal in your country.
But I think they will need some time to process since this was a complicated matter.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: mirakal on January 11, 2021, 01:46:32 PM
Who bet Biden will get money for sure but the question is the sportsbook that they use is legit? The election in the US last year is unpredictable because they are close voting to each other and many people watch the counting votes who gonna win and even me I vote for joe to win even Im not Citizens of the US I really like to win him to the presidential elections.

We do not know who place a bet for Biden, so we do not know who the winner is. If other members here place that bet and win, he can come out and tell us how much money he owns and hope that he can withdraw his win money. I think that will be a lot of money that he can win, but that will depend on how much money he bet on that event.

We might not know how much exactly they win or lose but we have a betting odds for that, and Biden was the favorites during the election, therefore winners only won lower than their bets which is less than 100%.

This is not exactly the betting odds as there are some movements to consider, but we can view this as an estimate.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politics/2020-election-odds-presidential-race-donald-trump-joe-biden

https://i.imgur.com/ZK0e3U3.png


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Ucy on January 11, 2021, 02:13:12 PM
I did not participate in the election bet, but here is my opinion on the matter , you can't claim anyone has won when the result is been contested and hasn't been transparently verified, with the both candidates agreeing to the verified results. Breaking of rules, rigging, etc could easily disqualified affected results.

We are in Crypto World.
"Don't Trust but Verify" is compatible with Crypto/Blockchain ideals. So I would keep waiting as long as possible until full, transparent audit is carried out and both candidates are satisfied with the results of the audits.
Results should be treated as untrustworthy until verification is concluded. That's what will make it fair and acceptable to both candidates/stakeholders.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 12, 2021, 10:19:47 AM
We might not know how much exactly they win or lose but we have a betting odds for that, and Biden was the favorites during the election, therefore winners only won lower than their bets which is less than 100%.

This is not exactly the betting odds as there are some movements to consider, but we can view this as an estimate.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politics/2020-election-odds-presidential-race-donald-trump-joe-biden

https://i.imgur.com/ZK0e3U3.png


That is why I wonder how much people who bet for Biden can win on that event. But I guess that people use medium and big money to place the bet, which is a big moment for the USA Election, which many people do not want to miss.

Those percentage shows that people place their bet to Biden, although we do not know if that data is real or not. But as a result, Biden is a new President for the USA.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 12, 2021, 10:53:00 AM
We might not know how much exactly they win or lose but we have a betting odds for that, and Biden was the favorites during the election, therefore winners only won lower than their bets which is less than 100%.

This is not exactly the betting odds as there are some movements to consider, but we can view this as an estimate.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politics/2020-election-odds-presidential-race-donald-trump-joe-biden

https://i.imgur.com/ZK0e3U3.png


That is why I wonder how much people who bet for Biden can win on that event. But I guess that people use medium and big money to place the bet, which is a big moment for the USA Election, which many people do not want to miss.
Yeah i almost Bet for Trump back then because of Popularity issue but lucky that i did not , it's npt because Biden wins but instead the BS that happens with the result.
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Those percentage shows that people place their bet to Biden, although we do not know if that data is real or not. But as a result, Biden is a new President for the USA.
accuracy can't be confirmed because surely there are many Bettors worldwide that bets for trump more than Biden , there is even a 5 million Dollar bet from a single gambler for Trump .


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ice098 on January 12, 2021, 01:20:27 PM
We might not know how much exactly they win or lose but we have a betting odds for that, and Biden was the favorites during the election, therefore winners only won lower than their bets which is less than 100%.

This is not exactly the betting odds as there are some movements to consider, but we can view this as an estimate.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politics/2020-election-odds-presidential-race-donald-trump-joe-biden

https://i.imgur.com/ZK0e3U3.png

Yes if they follow this odd maybe they win that game, there are many people who bet on Biden so I think they will split the jackpot into many partitions, in the image you gave, it is clearly that biden has the higher chance to win in that game, given that the difference is kinda far to those people who bet for Trump, and I am sure their sportbooks pays them, the money is not problem at all, website knows to manage prizes of course.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: jademaxsuy on January 12, 2021, 01:43:37 PM
We might not know how much exactly they win or lose but we have a betting odds for that, and Biden was the favorites during the election, therefore winners only won lower than their bets which is less than 100%.

This is not exactly the betting odds as there are some movements to consider, but we can view this as an estimate.

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politics/2020-election-odds-presidential-race-donald-trump-joe-biden

https://i.imgur.com/ZK0e3U3.png

Yes if they follow this odd maybe they win that game, there are many people who bet on Biden so I think they will split the jackpot into many partitions, in the image you gave, it is clearly that biden has the higher chance to win in that game, given that the difference is kinda far to those people who bet for Trump, and I am sure their sportbooks pays them, the money is not problem at all, website knows to manage prizes of course.
I had never thought of this chart presented that Trump will get high odds compared to PBiden. I was thinking that Trump has the advantage on this election. Well, I guess many people wanted to get a new leader after all to try another form of leadership. I know that Trump was a good.leader but.who.knows that PBiden can do more good for the people of the USA.

So, does anyone here not getting paid in their bet during the formal declaration of the USA presidential race betting?


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: slapper on January 12, 2021, 08:38:25 PM
Agree. Biden is now indeed the only winner no matter how desperate Trump is. The fact can not be changed and if you do not receive money from any sportsbook, force them to do so or you should open a scam accusation. It is been a long journey for me to support Trump and I have to admit that he has lost the fight. Not many comrades choose to stand long with him. Losing a few bucks is not as painful as the way he decides to do with the Capital Hill


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: magneto on January 12, 2021, 09:31:22 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013

I don't think that there's going to be a problem now that certification from the electoral colleges is complete.

As to sportsbooks that did not pay out the Biden win beforehand, I always thought that it was a bit of a gimmick to keep player funds. Most large sportsbooks were able to pay out early, and those who didn't essentially leveraged their ToS to delay and perhaps even void bets.

If a certain sportsbook still doesn't pay out after the certification, then they should be avoided at all costs in the future. But I think this will be rare as bookkeepers know this as well.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Kelvinid on January 12, 2021, 10:59:51 PM
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I don't think that there's going to be a problem now that certification from the electoral colleges is complete.

As to sportsbooks that did not pay out the Biden win beforehand, I always thought that it was a bit of a gimmick to keep player funds. Most large sportsbooks were able to pay out early, and those who didn't essentially leveraged their ToS to delay and perhaps even void bets.

If a certain sportsbook still doesn't pay out after the certification, then they should be avoided at all costs in the future. But I think this will be rare as bookkeepers know this as well.
Surely they will pay for the winners and it should be done even without seeing the certificate. That announcement is enough for the bookies to think that they lose and delaying the payment is another issue. I don't think there is staking on their site for the gamblers to decide not to withdraw their winning, that was ridiculous.

If they wanted to have more gamblers and bettors, then they should be truthful in their words and must have legal action. The delayed payment is just bragging people not to trust them back and not to use their betting platform again. 


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Quidat on January 12, 2021, 11:21:17 PM
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I don't think that there's going to be a problem now that certification from the electoral colleges is complete.

As to sportsbooks that did not pay out the Biden win beforehand, I always thought that it was a bit of a gimmick to keep player funds. Most large sportsbooks were able to pay out early, and those who didn't essentially leveraged their ToS to delay and perhaps even void bets.

If a certain sportsbook still doesn't pay out after the certification, then they should be avoided at all costs in the future. But I think this will be rare as bookkeepers know this as well.
Surely they will pay for the winners and it should be done even without seeing the certificate. That announcement is enough for the bookies to think that they lose and delaying the payment is another issue. I don't think there is staking on their site for the gamblers to decide not to withdraw their winning, that was ridiculous.

If they wanted to have more gamblers and bettors, then they should be truthful in their words and must have legal action. The delayed payment is just bragging people not to trust them back and not to use their betting platform again. 

Looking for certificate again? WTF they were thinking? Why they do delay up soo much on this regard? Its clear as day that Biden is already the winner
and making another excuses or alibis is just really making their image becomes worst as bettors would really be finding this as not appealing thing already.
Once they had gained their wins for sure they will really be transferring into other gambling sites that will not really be holding up their wins
and just like this kind of scenario of presidential betting. Its just right for those winners to get those wins and shouldnt really be delayed too much.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: BigBoy89 on January 13, 2021, 02:19:20 AM
If the sportbook says they have to wait til Biden swears auth. I think this is also the ultimate proof that he really won lol

They still could find an issue about this, after all, there will be riots and US government will likely have crisis there. The sportsbook could delay by an excuse like if Biden still hasn't officially sat there and stayed on the Whitehouse, he isn't the president and no one yet won lol.

Congress certified Joe Biden's victory - that's the ultimate proof. Everything else is delaying the inevitable and hurting the bookmakers' reputation. This is a good way to check which bookmakers are okay and which to avoid in the future.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: yazher on January 13, 2021, 02:44:16 AM
If the sportbook says they have to wait til Biden swears auth. I think this is also the ultimate proof that he really won lol

They still could find an issue about this, after all, there will be riots and US government will likely have crisis there. The sportsbook could delay by an excuse like if Biden still hasn't officially sat there and stayed on the Whitehouse, he isn't the president and no one yet won lol.

Congress certified Joe Biden's victory - that's the ultimate proof. Everything else is delaying the inevitable and hurting the bookmakers' reputation. This is a good way to check which bookmakers are okay and which to avoid in the future.

That's right, others just making some reasons to delay the payment of their players, or maybe the others are don't meant to pay them. If that was the case, then one should avoid playing on that site and maybe stop playing this kind of bet because they are too risky to start with. especially when something like this happened after the election.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: kram31 on January 13, 2021, 03:19:11 AM
Few sites have decided to pay user who bet on biden on last year, and with current bitcoin price, i can say those sites are lucky. Imagine they have pay the winner now, after joe biden officially won, they must pay bigger now. Congrats for all people who bet on biden, your winnings is great too because of bitcoin price still pumping atm

Yeah, this is unexpected to be happen were Biden became the winner for presidency. It is really lucky to those who bet to Biden,
congratulation to all who won on this betting games between Trump and Biden, and for the bettors who lose, better luck next time
for this one. :D


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ethereumhunter on January 13, 2021, 07:37:14 AM
accuracy can't be confirmed because surely there are many Bettors worldwide that bets for trump more than Biden , there is even a 5 million Dollar bet from a single gambler for Trump .


Maybe that percentage can be used for our analysis to determine which candidate that we can choose. I think that is because Trump is more popular than Biden, so many people choose Trump as their candidate. But then the situations change, and the result comes out as Biden as the winner and the new President of the USA.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: dothebeats on January 13, 2021, 04:44:08 PM
Some sportsbook are still trying to hold up the payments until now, possibly waiting for the price to go even further but that doesn't even change the fact that most of these bets are made with cryptocurrencies. The Congress already certified Biden's victory over Trump, so idk what 'valid' reasons do sportsbook have left on their end that they can spew out in order to delay the payments on the said event. There's no use delaying payments IMO, as the results will not change no matter how long the bookies wait for the results to be altered.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Mahanton on January 14, 2021, 10:27:57 PM
Some sportsbook are still trying to hold up the payments until now, possibly waiting for the price to go even further but that doesn't even change the fact that most of these bets are made with cryptocurrencies. The Congress already certified Biden's victory over Trump, so idk what 'valid' reasons do sportsbook have left on their end that they can spew out in order to delay the payments on the said event. There's no use delaying payments IMO, as the results will not change no matter how long the bookies wait for the results to be altered.

Which in fact the result was been out already and nothing can alter these result that is why i didn't also get why sportbooks or any bookies should hold the payouts for the winners hence these probable result favor to Joe Biden had been circulating around the social media world or even in the news worldwide. Winners are deserved to be paid correctly and accordingly in due time but it seems that up to now these sportsbooks didn't make it on serious matter.

Are  there still bookies hadn't paid off those Biden winners? Can you mention it off because I haven't seen which of those bookies had been still holding off those wins.
This thread  should be locked because its been announced nor declared officially on whose the winner.Opps the result had been known already since this election had finalized.
It had just been delayed due to some recounting or issues but still it didn't really changed a thing.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Rengga Jati on January 14, 2021, 11:51:37 PM
It is officially stated WON and congratulates for Biden.
and this was a long betting for the US election. Many betters for Biden will really smile very satisfied and see they can get money as soon as possible. But for the loser, they may be still angry right now  :D

Btw, is there any possibility if the sportsbook doesn't pay you because of this? If it is difficult to get the reward, what commonly be done?


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Strongkored on January 15, 2021, 04:45:48 AM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013
My question is, once the official results come out is it still possible for the sportsbook not to immediately credit the balance to the winners? I think it's impossible for them to again making excuses by not credited the payments, especially if it's a legit sportsbook. Finally congratulation for who bet on Biden long wait but if bet with huge amount then the result will good to.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: kotajikikox on January 15, 2021, 05:38:48 AM
My question is, once the official results come out is it still possible for the sportsbook not to immediately credit the balance to the winners? I think it's impossible for them to again making excuses by not credited the payments, especially if it's a legit sportsbook. Finally congratulation for who bet on Biden long wait but if bet with huge amount then the result will good to.

Results were certified by mid-December, but some of the sites refused to pay out the winning amount to those who bet in favor of Biden.
i dont think that Sites refuses to pay back in december but they are just following what the real situation is , Yeah there are points that Biden already wins back in december Mid but still Trump has claims and being a President , there will sure a issue if His protest wins right ? how can gambling site take back those they already paid?
this is why the rigthful manner has happen and wait for the true verdict.
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These sites have very complex T&C, and therefore it is not easy to take legal action against them. Obviously it is going to affect their reputation, but from their behavior it looks as if they don't really care about it. Nowadays it is very easy to close down one site and then create an exact clone with a different name.
even if i am in their shoes , same thing that i will do , Payments can wait but collecting back will be a Burden .


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Ucy on January 15, 2021, 08:13:24 AM
I did not participate in the election bet, but here is my opinion on the matter , you can't claim anyone has won when the result is been contested and hasn't been transparently verified, with the both candidates agreeing to the verified results. Breaking of rules, rigging, etc could easily disqualified affected results.

We are in Crypto World.
"Don't Trust but Verify" is compatible with Crypto/Blockchain ideals. So I would keep waiting as long as possible until full, transparent audit is carried out and both candidates are satisfied with the results of the audits.
Results should be treated as untrustworthy until verification is concluded. That's what will make it fair and acceptable to both candidates/stakeholders.


In other to be on a very safe/side, this remains my advice to betting sites and betting participants who are involved in this.
I see many sites having issues with people if things turn the other way. I hope things like this have some sort of insurance for protection against such situation.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: ice098 on January 15, 2021, 05:28:21 PM
I don’t know who needs to see this but hey it’s finally over as Biden has officially won, and now your sports book can no longer hide or make any excuses about not releasing your payment if you had wagered on Biden. It’s been a long stressful waiting period for you’ll, but now make sure that you’re paid, or post here if the casinos don’t pay so we all can know that they’re a scam site, and we all can then stay away from them.

Source:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/congress-begin-electoral-vote-count-amid-protests-inside-outside-capitol-n1253013
My question is, once the official results come out is it still possible for the sportsbook not to immediately credit the balance to the winners? I think it's impossible for them to again making excuses by not credited the payments, especially if it's a legit sportsbook. Finally congratulation for who bet on Biden long wait but if bet with huge amount then the result will good to.

And since the official result were already announced and come out in public there is no reason for the sportsbook to delay the payouts of the winner. There is no reason for such waiting a result, that the tally or election voting counts were contested by the opponents team or whatsoever. And hence these issue was been talking about for about 2 months or more i guess. And it already too long enough for winners to wait and since it already proven that Joe Biden win those winners are deserve to be rewarded by what they have paid for.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: johhnyUA on January 15, 2021, 07:31:02 PM
It was some online bookies who were holding up their clients as far as I know. It was not nice though and if that would happen with me then I would be pissed LOL

I'm not sure about how it was with people who bet on Biden, but my bet on Trump was marked as "losing bet" shortly after the votes final count. On Parimatch. It would be really interesting to know, winners was also paid then, or Parimatch kept their funds until now?  ???


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Saint-loup on January 15, 2021, 09:34:27 PM
Who bet Biden will get money for sure but the question is the sportsbook that they use is legit? The election in the US last year is unpredictable because they are close voting to each other and many people watch the counting votes who gonna win and even me I vote for joe to win even Im not Citizens of the US I really like to win him to the presidential elections.
I don't think this election was unpredictable at all, most of polls and bookmakers predicted Joe Biden as the winner, even me while I don't support him, unlike the previous one where they were all wrong.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: codegnome on January 17, 2021, 02:06:21 PM
That really took a long time for the elections to come to an end. That Trump was also very stubborn. But on the other hand, it is also logical that he did not just want to resign from his presidency. I wonder if people bet a lot that Biden would win.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: mirakal on January 18, 2021, 02:03:19 PM
That really took a long time for the elections to come to an end. That Trump was also very stubborn. But on the other hand, it is also logical that he did not just want to resign from his presidency.
He doesn't want to be called a loser, maybe he has not expected that he will lose, so he is finding ways to delayed the proclamation but here we are, Biden was already proclaimed by the winner and that's the purpose of this thread, to inform us about the "official announcement".

I wonder if people bet a lot that Biden would win.

Biden was the favorite to win, that says that most bettors are rooting for Biden to win.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: k@suy on January 18, 2021, 02:32:44 PM
That really took a long time for the elections to come to an end. That Trump was also very stubborn. But on the other hand, it is also logical that he did not just want to resign from his presidency.
He doesn't want to be called a loser, maybe he has not expected that he will lose, so he is finding ways to delayed the proclamation but here we are, Biden was already proclaimed by the winner and that's the purpose of this thread, to inform us about the "official announcement".

I wonder if people bet a lot that Biden would win.

Biden was the favorite to win, that says that most bettors are rooting for Biden to win.

It seems Trump haven't moved on from what the election result has been posted on that's why he still protest on the result that have been announced. But he also should look back from the things he has done while he was the president of the US. And these might be the reason why the citizens of US wanted to have a new leader that would serve people and will listen to people. However, result have been made and proclamation of newly elected president Joe Biden were already scheduled then i bet the issue of the unclaimed prizes of winning bettors might be awarded to the winners.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: mirakal on January 18, 2021, 03:30:04 PM
That really took a long time for the elections to come to an end. That Trump was also very stubborn. But on the other hand, it is also logical that he did not just want to resign from his presidency.
He doesn't want to be called a loser, maybe he has not expected that he will lose, so he is finding ways to delayed the proclamation but here we are, Biden was already proclaimed by the winner and that's the purpose of this thread, to inform us about the "official announcement".

I wonder if people bet a lot that Biden would win.

Biden was the favorite to win, that says that most bettors are rooting for Biden to win.

It seems Trump haven't moved on from what the election result has been posted on that's why he still protest on the result that have been announced. But he also should look back from the things he has done while he was the president of the US. And these might be the reason why the citizens of US wanted to have a new leader that would serve people and will listen to people. However, result have been made and proclamation of newly elected president Joe Biden were already scheduled then i bet the issue of the unclaimed prizes of winning bettors might be awarded to the winners.

According to some article I read, the trust rating of Trump only dropped when the pandemic happened, he was not able to make the right measures to minimize the spread of infection, and people does not like the way he handles it, so he lost in the election. There maybe other reasons but the pandemic should have a big impact on the outcome of the election.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: stadus on January 18, 2021, 04:09:22 PM
That really took a long time for the elections to come to an end. That Trump was also very stubborn. But on the other hand, it is also logical that he did not just want to resign from his presidency. I wonder if people bet a lot that Biden would win.
He(Trump) thought the election was rigged and the aftermath was what he displayed few days ago. Even though he has no clear evidence against the president elect, i think he made a point that "the US elections are full of fraud", if not; those who storm the capitol wouldn't have done such havoc just to make their support for him(Trump), though i lost my bet as i bet on Trump to win.
He know he lost, he just make excuses to gain sympathy from people.

Betting odds in the election already tells that Trump is the underdog and their camp knows they are behind in surveys, so all they do is just to make an excuses in case they will eventually lost in the election. Trump will be remember as the stubborn president in the history of America.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: akirasendo17 on January 18, 2021, 04:13:14 PM
there are lots of people who lost on this bet since trump was the favorite from the start I saw bettors who bet on him, but the result went sideways, I would like also to bet the last time but, since there are lots of rumors, I decided not to, good thing I follow my mind and don't just look on the ratings, it could have been a big blow for me, congratulation to the winners.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Lorence.xD on January 19, 2021, 02:18:24 AM
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Betfair has mandatory KYC, right? So I don't think that there is any justification for the additional delay. How much time is it going to check whether fraud is involved or not? All the formalities, IMO should be completed in a week or two. And the $1.3 million bet which you had mentioned was an ordinary bet waged on Joe Biden. They don't really have an excuse to delay the payment.
If the KYC is mandatory then how come they still are holding the wins of the users in the first place. I do agree with you, fraud is out of the question for the users but to the site, it will raise some questions. That is why I said that they should issue some sort of dispute because I do believe too that there is no reason for delaying the payment.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: StartupAnalyst on January 19, 2021, 03:36:05 PM
Maybe those bookmakers who didn't pay the election results will pay them after President Biden's inauguration.  Although it is strange, the results of the election have been known for a long time


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Sithara007 on January 20, 2021, 04:14:02 AM
Maybe those bookmakers who didn't pay the election results will pay them after President Biden's inauguration.  Although it is strange, the results of the election have been known for a long time

That is not fair, IMO. The election was over by the first week of November and the results were certified by mid-December. On 14th December, the electoral college convened and elected Joe Biden as the next president of the United States. For me, this was the latest they could delay the distribution of the winnings. There is no point in waiting for the inauguration of the presidency to distribute the rewards.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Natalim on January 20, 2021, 11:26:52 AM
Maybe those bookmakers who didn't pay the election results will pay them after President Biden's inauguration.  Although it is strange, the results of the election have been known for a long time

That is not fair, IMO. The election was over by the first week of November and the results were certified by mid-December. On 14th December, the electoral college convened and elected Joe Biden as the next president of the United States. For me, this was the latest they could delay the distribution of the winnings. There is no point in waiting for the inauguration of the presidency to distribute the rewards.

The rules of the game does not say a bettor is paid in the inauguration or after, the rules says bets are graded when the official announcement is release.

I'm just curious, do we still have betting sites that does not grade bets yet?


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: StartupAnalyst on January 20, 2021, 09:51:55 PM
Maybe those bookmakers who didn't pay the election results will pay them after President Biden's inauguration.  Although it is strange, the results of the election have been known for a long time

That is not fair, IMO. The election was over by the first week of November and the results were certified by mid-December. On 14th December, the electoral college convened and elected Joe Biden as the next president of the United States. For me, this was the latest they could delay the distribution of the winnings. There is no point in waiting for the inauguration of the presidency to distribute the rewards.

I know about the lines when the results were announced. I tried to explain somehow why they couldn't pay the money. It's very strange. They must realize that it would have a very big impact on their reputation. And it will cause them reputational damage


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: bryant.coleman on January 21, 2021, 04:18:50 AM
I know about the lines when the results were announced. I tried to explain somehow why they couldn't pay the money. It's very strange. They must realize that it would have a very big impact on their reputation. And it will cause them reputational damage

Perhaps they don't care much about their reputation. For online gambling sites, it is not very difficult to make an exit scam and then open a new website with completely different design and URL after a few months. Many of them are based in various island nations and that makes it very difficult for users from the US or the European Union to pursue legal measures.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: finaleshot2016 on January 21, 2021, 06:11:41 PM
I know about the lines when the results were announced. I tried to explain somehow why they couldn't pay the money. It's very strange. They must realize that it would have a very big impact on their reputation. And it will cause them reputational damage

Perhaps they don't care much about their reputation. For online gambling sites, it is not very difficult to make an exit scam and then open a new website with completely different design and URL after a few months. Many of them are based in various island nations and that makes it very difficult for users from the US or the European Union to pursue legal measures.
Or maybe they're just waiting for the official inauguration of Biden which is yesterday so they're holding the payments. Reputations can be build again and a bet like this can't ruin it but if so, they will just recreate another platform that's similar to it and rename it. That's why I'm betting on gambling platforms that has already a lot of investments in promoting their business, the popular betting platforms which prioritize their reputation because they're on the leading. All of us want to have safe money, then use a gambling platform that can't be easily replaced/renamed when trying to exit scam.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: StartupAnalyst on January 21, 2021, 08:35:33 PM
I know about the lines when the results were announced. I tried to explain somehow why they couldn't pay the money. It's very strange. They must realize that it would have a very big impact on their reputation. And it will cause them reputational damage

Perhaps they don't care much about their reputation. For online gambling sites, it is not very difficult to make an exit scam and then open a new website with completely different design and URL after a few months. Many of them are based in various island nations and that makes it very difficult for users from the US or the European Union to pursue legal measures.

But still, even if they change the domain name, most users will understand that this site. Because usually the site design remains the same and the name is almost the same. They can be blocked for users from the European Union and the United States. Apparently, they are engaged in petty fraud and do not fall under the attention of the police


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Oilacris on January 21, 2021, 08:54:15 PM
I know about the lines when the results were announced. I tried to explain somehow why they couldn't pay the money. It's very strange. They must realize that it would have a very big impact on their reputation. And it will cause them reputational damage

Perhaps they don't care much about their reputation. For online gambling sites, it is not very difficult to make an exit scam and then open a new website with completely different design and URL after a few months. Many of them are based in various island nations and that makes it very difficult for users from the US or the European Union to pursue legal measures.

But still, even if they change the domain name, most users will understand that this site. Because usually the site design remains the same and the name is almost the same. They can be blocked for users from the European Union and the United States. Apparently, they are engaged in petty fraud and do not fall under the attention of the police
Its just dumb for you to make out changes without totally changing up everything from url name up to sites design.This is the cons when you do deal with unlicensed one where you cant really fight off back with legal
means in case there were issues that had experienced.For local ones then this is an another story because you can at least have some fight to sue them out for them to pay.
When it comes to business talks then its just really non sense for them on not to pay on what they owe into their bettors knowing that it will really be risking
out their own reputation and business isnt something or simply can be ruined up by a few bucks exchanging for long term profits.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: fullhdpixel on January 22, 2021, 10:21:04 AM
That really took a long time for the elections to come to an end. That Trump was also very stubborn. But on the other hand, it is also logical that he did not just want to resign from his presidency. I wonder if people bet a lot that Biden would win.
Trump acted like a sore loser and only increased his haters with this kind of behavior but anyways finally things are confirmed and I hope all the sportsbooks have paid our their players. I made a small bet at stake and got paid out way back so was never waiting for this but I know lots of sites waited until now to pay out so congrats who got paid finally.

People did not bet a lot on Biden, in fact Trump was the heavy favorite from what I remember when live betting was going on and even on the last day where only a few electoral votes/seat were left the odds were still up and I was surprised if that was a mistake because Biden win was almost certain and odds on last day though were low around 1.1 but still juicy considering he already almost won it. But Trump was favorite earlier until counting began.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Saint-loup on January 22, 2021, 09:23:03 PM
That really took a long time for the elections to come to an end. That Trump was also very stubborn. But on the other hand, it is also logical that he did not just want to resign from his presidency. I wonder if people bet a lot that Biden would win.
Trump acted like a sore loser and only increased his haters with this kind of behavior but anyways finally things are confirmed and I hope all the sportsbooks have paid our their players. I made a small bet at stake and got paid out way back so was never waiting for this but I know lots of sites waited until now to pay out so congrats who got paid finally.

People did not bet a lot on Biden, in fact Trump was the heavy favorite from what I remember when live betting was going on and even on the last day where only a few electoral votes/seat were left the odds were still up and I was surprised if that was a mistake because Biden win was almost certain and odds on last day though were low around 1.1 but still juicy considering he already almost won it. But Trump was favorite earlier until counting began.
I wouldn't say Trump was the heavy favorite, polls didn't show that.
I bet on Biden because most of specialists told he was about to win.


Title: Re: Attention: Biden has officially won, make sure your sportsbook pay you.
Post by: Mauser on January 23, 2021, 05:19:05 PM
That really took a long time for the elections to come to an end. That Trump was also very stubborn. But on the other hand, it is also logical that he did not just want to resign from his presidency. I wonder if people bet a lot that Biden would win.
Trump acted like a sore loser and only increased his haters with this kind of behavior but anyways finally things are confirmed and I hope all the sportsbooks have paid our their players. I made a small bet at stake and got paid out way back so was never waiting for this but I know lots of sites waited until now to pay out so congrats who got paid finally.

People did not bet a lot on Biden, in fact Trump was the heavy favorite from what I remember when live betting was going on and even on the last day where only a few electoral votes/seat were left the odds were still up and I was surprised if that was a mistake because Biden win was almost certain and odds on last day though were low around 1.1 but still juicy considering he already almost won it. But Trump was favorite earlier until counting began.

I think people didn't bet that much on Biden because his odds where so strong in his favor. The payout was fairly small compared to Trump. Initially I bet on Trump because there was a decent profit to be made if he actually won. But then the polls kept getting more and more in favor for Biden so I ended up actually closing out my bet. I just didn't see any chance for Trump to win with so many things going bad for him. Especially the corona pandemic and how it was handled cost him the election in my opinion.