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Title: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: shoemanpete on January 07, 2021, 02:33:23 PM
Hi, 6 years ago a friend with whom I no longer have contact gave me a small amount of bitcoin.
I never did anything about it and do not have any reference re them.
What I since found on my laptop is a string of 256 characters labelled ´keys´
Could this be relevant to my missing bitcoin?

If so, how do I go about dealing with it? I already have some bitcoin in my wallet.

Many thanks.


Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: 100bitcoin on January 07, 2021, 02:36:03 PM
First and foremost, you are probably getting lots PM already for 'help'. Do NOT disclose your 256 characters labelled ´keys´ to any of them.

In last 6 years, Bitcoin's USD value has already gone up ~200x. So, whatever was gifted to you is now worth ~200x in USD value. Plus, you can have many free fork and airdrop coins out of it. If anyone gets your key, assume it is irreversibly gone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: shoemanpete on January 07, 2021, 03:23:00 PM
Thank you for the advice, thankfully I am aware of not disclosing anything.  Yesterday I sold and got back my initial investment, so now I have the balance which will grow....so it seems.  I tend to want to play safe as I am a bad gambler.



Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: Coin_trader on January 07, 2021, 03:28:25 PM
Hi, 6 years ago a friend with whom I no longer have contact gave me a small amount of bitcoin.
I never did anything about it and do not have any reference re them.
What I since found on my laptop is a string of 256 characters labelled ´keys´
Could this be relevant to my missing bitcoin?

If so, how do I go about dealing with it? I already have some bitcoin in my wallet.

Many thanks.

You can refer to this article to educate more about sha256 key use and description.

I'm not that expert on cryptography but I believe the one you are holding is the sha256 key for a cryptographic message like sign message. But let's wait other expert here.


Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: ranochigo on January 07, 2021, 05:21:54 PM
You can refer to this article to educate more about sha256 key use and description.

I'm not that expert on cryptography but I believe the one you are holding is the sha256 key for a cryptographic message like sign message. But let's wait other expert here.
No. ECDSA keys are used for the public/private key. SHA256 hashes has 64 characters, not 256. Message signing is also not done with SHA256 but rather ECDSA.


Bitcoin wallets usually use WIF for easier importing of private keys and they usually start with 5, K or L and are not 256 characters long. For ECDSA private keys to be 256 characters long, the key would have to be represented in binary, which AFAIK no wallet does that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on January 07, 2021, 08:09:05 PM
Without revealing the keys themselves, can you tell us what character set the 256 character string uses?

If it is binary (just 0s and 1s) then there is a chance that it is a binary encoding of an individual private key. Converting it to hexadecimal and then calculating the relevant address may yield some results, although this seems unlikely as ranochigo has said.
If it is hexadecimal, then it isn't really clear what this number could be. Are you sure it is one individual number, and not 2 or 4 separate numbers?
Or maybe it uses a variety of letters and numbers and is therefore likely to be Base58? Does it start with anything that looks like "xpub" or "xprv"?


Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: witcher_sense on January 07, 2021, 08:52:46 PM
Hi, 6 years ago a friend with whom I no longer have contact gave me a small amount of bitcoin.
I never did anything about it and do not have any reference re them.
What I since found on my laptop is a string of 256 characters labelled ´keys´
Could this be relevant to my missing bitcoin?

If so, how do I go about dealing with it? I already have some bitcoin in my wallet.

Many thanks.

This may sound like a silly question, but how did you count the exact number of characters in your so-called potential keys? Hopefully, you did that not by means of any online tools because, in such case, you would have already compromised your sensitive information.


Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: Crptomagma on January 08, 2021, 01:51:21 AM
First and foremost, you are probably getting lots PM already for 'help'. Do NOT disclose your 256 characters labelled ´keys´ to any of them.

Don’t be misled by thinking everyone who PM you is genuinely interested in helping you get back the wallet and I won’t advise you should by any means disclose your 256 character to anyone or your private keys they are to be kept in a sect location where only you can access. Don’t joke with your wallet because in the past couple of years bitcoin have increasing ridiculously. So imagine what you have in your wallet right now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: shoemanpete on January 09, 2021, 07:54:20 PM
Thanks for trying to assist.  I will not reveal anything of the numbers to anyone.  I made an error above, there are 236 numbers not 256.  I don´t know if they are meant to be together or not.  There is a mix of upper case, lower case, numbers, slashes, plus symbols.  It does not start with the numbers etc as suggested above.  I counted them by hand/eyes .



Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on January 09, 2021, 08:15:18 PM
I made an error above, there are 236 numbers not 256.  I don´t know if they are meant to be together or not.  There is a mix of upper case, lower case, numbers, slashes, plus symbols.
I'm afraid this could be almost anything, in that case.

There are no obvious private key related numbers which are 236 characters long (or some standard fraction thereof). The commonly used base systems in bitcoin - binary, hexadecimal, and Base58Check - do not include slashes or symbols. Most likely, this is an encrypted private key, seed phrase, wallet file, or some other encrypted data.

By any chance are the first characters "U2FsdGVkX1"?


Title: Re: Bitcoin keys question
Post by: odolvlobo on January 10, 2021, 12:59:41 AM
Thanks for trying to assist.  I will not reveal anything of the numbers to anyone.  I made an error above, there are 236 numbers not 256.  I don´t know if they are meant to be together or not.  There is a mix of upper case, lower case, numbers, slashes, plus symbols.  It does not start with the numbers etc as suggested above.  I counted them by hand/eyes .

It sounds like it is base-64 encoded. I have no idea what the contents might be. There are plenty of ways to decode base-64, though you should be careful because it is potentially a seed or a private key. Even after decoding, it might not be obvious what the contents are.

By any chance are the first characters "U2FsdGVkX1"?

Good guess. If that is the case, then it is encrypted and you need the passphrase.