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Title: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: DR4G0NM45T3R on January 13, 2021, 08:42:36 AM
Hey all

After the announcement of the 3060 12gb variant.
I wonder if this GPU is going to be faster for mining ETH in comparison to the 3060ti.
The memory clock seems faster 16 Gbps vs 14Gpbs.
but the memory bus is smaller 192-bit vs 256bit


What are you guys thoughts on this?

 ;D


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: Metroid on January 13, 2021, 09:00:49 AM
given the calculations, I would say 52 mhs on eth, max.

They say $329, so 2 x 3060 = 1 x 3080.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: DR4G0NM45T3R on January 13, 2021, 09:14:05 AM
Why do you say 52mh/s max?
The GPU memory speed is faster on the 3060 12gb card.

and 2 x 3060TI does not equal to 1 x 3080...
unless you mean the 3060 12gb cards.
But I still don't know where you getting your numbers from.
To me the 3060 12gb should be faster at mining ETH, just because it has a higher memory speed.

2 x 3060Ti = 124mh/s

1 x 3080 = 105 mh/s


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: Metroid on January 13, 2021, 09:16:40 AM
Why do you say 52mh/s max?
The GPU memory speed is faster on the 3060 12gb card.
and 2 x 3060TI does not equal to 1 x 3080...

10% faster memory, 25% slower bus, I said the 2 x 3060 12gb = 1 x 3080 10gb, not the 3060ti 8gb model. Also we are not sure if this is an already overclocked memory version, so maybe the memory overclock is already in by default.

Also 1 x 3080 = 100mhs, not good if more than this, i myself have 2 and pushing to 105 is not that good for 24/7 for a long period, better be safe than sorry. Also the 3060ti version I don't have any but i would have to see how safe is the memory for 24/7 to determine how max it can get. I would say 60 at moment. As soon as I get one I will test it. So 3060ti = 60mhs, 3080 = 100mhs, and 3060 = 52mhs is what I think.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: DR4G0NM45T3R on January 13, 2021, 09:39:42 AM
aaaah cool :).
Thanks for your clarification.

Currently I am running 2 x 3060TI MSI Gaming x trio cards.
Running at about 61.8mh/s per card, and has been really stable.
If I got to 62mh/s then I start to get invalid shares, but I did put my power limit down to 65.
Core clock -502 and Memory clock + 1150.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: safar1980 on January 13, 2021, 09:58:33 AM
https://i.ibb.co/GVfvh92/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/dQs0ht2)

Predicted hash rate 45-49 megahash
Source:
 Geforce RTX 3060 12Gb (https://cryptoage.com/ru/2325-nvidia-%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0-%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D1%83-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-%D1%81-%D0%BD%D0%B5-%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BC%D1%8B%D0%BC%D0%B8-%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%87%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8-%D1%85%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B3%D0%B0.html)

"Conclusion: In all technical and economic parameters, the Geforce RTX 3060 video card loses to the RTX 3060Ti, primarily in terms of price, i.e. the technical characteristics of the video card turned out to be much lower than the company Nvidia established the difference in price between these two models of video cards. And when choosing between these two models, you should give preference to the RTX 3060Ti. But the younger model still has a couple of advantages: more memory, which may come in handy in the future for mining algorithms that require a large amount of memory and only one additional power connector, which simplifies the assembly of mining rigs and the selection of power supplies."


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: Metroid on January 13, 2021, 10:05:27 AM
aaaah cool :).
Thanks for your clarification.

Currently I am running 2 x 3060TI MSI Gaming x trio cards.
Running at about 61.8mh/s per card, and has been really stable.
If I got to 62mh/s then I start to get invalid shares, but I did put my power limit down to 65.
Core clock -502 and Memory clock + 1150.


I'm running the memory overlock at +1235mhz, evga ftw3 3080, memory temperature is 70c. This is the log, i get from it. This graphics card has memory sensors on it.

Code:
2021-01-13 06:54:32 ,        1380.0   ,           1310.7   ,               57.0   ,                70   ,                  1714   ,                70   ,                  1714   ,           4517   ,        100   ,                      100   ,                   0   ,                   10   ,              215.6   ,                  52.6   ,              120.2   ,                122.7   ,              11.9   ,              18.6   ,                11.9   ,             67.2   ,               11.9   ,            102.6   ,               11.8   ,             27.1   ,               11.8   ,                        56.7   ,               1   ,        0.7310   ,               64   ,               62   ,               66   ,               66   ,               52   ,               56   ,               59   ,               70   ,               59   ,                   1719   ,               48.6   ,                 11029   ,

I'm not sure if memory overclock of a normal gddr6 +1150 is safe. As long as you dont get invalid shares I guess is safe shorterm but long term not sure, my friend has a rx 470 samsung memory that mined eth for years at 2150mhz and now it works only at 1750 - 1800, if more than it crashes.

Predicted hash rate 45-49 megahash

I agree with this. I would round up to 50mhs.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: DR4G0NM45T3R on January 13, 2021, 10:07:46 AM
I think it's all speculation at this stage.
As this source says different memory bandwidth/ boost clock is also different.
The memory speed is also something to take account for.

Check the specs here as well:

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-gddr6-graphics-card-official-ampere-ga106-gpu-launching-in-february-for-329-us/


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: Metroid on January 13, 2021, 10:25:30 AM
I think it's all speculation at this stage.
As this source says different memory bandwidth/ boost clock is also different.
The memory speed is also something to take account for.

Check the specs here as well:

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-gddr6-graphics-card-official-ampere-ga106-gpu-launching-in-february-for-329-us/

3060 memory speed is 17 Gbps and 3060ti is 14, that is 20% more, so yeah 50 to 55mhs at best is my take.

This might be the best card ever to purchase for mining and likely to have a good resell value too since is 12gb. The question now is price.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: JeotQ on January 13, 2021, 10:29:37 AM
Hey all

After the announcement of the 3060 12gb variant.
I wonder if this GPU is going to be faster for mining ETH in comparison to the 3060ti.
The memory clock seems faster 16 Gbps vs 14Gpbs.
but the memory bus is smaller 192-bit vs 256bit


What are you guys thoughts on this?

 ;D
I expect nothing less than 45 to 50 mhs from the new 3060 gpu and the worst thing about new gpu is MSRP, if you aren't fast enough the price will skyrocket in a very short time and huge buyers will get the biggest advantage, probably sell back to others on ebay or Amazon for 600& each, this happens all the time with new gpus


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: DR4G0NM45T3R on January 13, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
aaaah cool :).
Thanks for your clarification.

Currently I am running 2 x 3060TI MSI Gaming x trio cards.
Running at about 61.8mh/s per card, and has been really stable.
If I got to 62mh/s then I start to get invalid shares, but I did put my power limit down to 65.
Core clock -502 and Memory clock + 1150.


I'm running the memory overlock at +1235mhz, evga ftw3 3080, memory temperature is 70c. This is the log, i get from it. This graphics card has memory sensors on it.

Code:
2021-01-13 06:54:32 ,        1380.0   ,           1310.7   ,               57.0   ,                70   ,                  1714   ,                70   ,                  1714   ,           4517   ,        100   ,                      100   ,                   0   ,                   10   ,              215.6   ,                  52.6   ,              120.2   ,                122.7   ,              11.9   ,              18.6   ,                11.9   ,             67.2   ,               11.9   ,            102.6   ,               11.8   ,             27.1   ,               11.8   ,                        56.7   ,               1   ,        0.7310   ,               64   ,               62   ,               66   ,               66   ,               52   ,               56   ,               59   ,               70   ,               59   ,                   1719   ,               48.6   ,                 11029   ,

I'm not sure if memory overclock of a normal gddr6 +1150 is safe. As long as you dont get invalid shares I guess is safe shorterm but long term not sure, my friend has a rx 470 samsung memory that mined eth for years at 2150mhz and now it works only at 1750 - 1800, if more than it crashes.

Predicted hash rate 45-49 megahash

I agree with this. I would round up to 50mhs.

As long as you are not cooking those VRM's with heat, and you don't put more voltage into them.
Then I don't see an issue tbh.
I think there was too much heat going into those RX 470's.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: Metroid on January 13, 2021, 11:09:04 AM
As long as you are not cooking those VRM's with heat, and you don't put more voltage into them.
Then I don't see an issue tbh.
I think there was too much heat going into those RX 470's.

You see that is the problem because he said there were never invalid shares with that card. The gpu one day decided it would not work at 2150mhz anymore.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: tpd09 on January 13, 2021, 02:38:08 PM
aaaah cool :).
Thanks for your clarification.

Currently I am running 2 x 3060TI MSI Gaming x trio cards.
Running at about 61.8mh/s per card, and has been really stable.
If I got to 62mh/s then I start to get invalid shares, but I did put my power limit down to 65.
Core clock -502 and Memory clock + 1150.


How are you guys getting your 3060ti to 60mh?

Used the above setting and got 54 with Phoenix.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: Metroid on January 13, 2021, 02:44:26 PM
aaaah cool :).
Thanks for your clarification.

Currently I am running 2 x 3060TI MSI Gaming x trio cards.
Running at about 61.8mh/s per card, and has been really stable.
If I got to 62mh/s then I start to get invalid shares, but I did put my power limit down to 65.
Core clock -502 and Memory clock + 1150.


How are you guys getting your 3060ti to 60mh?

Used the above setting and got 54 with Phoenix.

You need to fiddle around it. His settings worked out for him, for you it will be different, every gpu needs to be set to find the best possible hashrate.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: P00P135 on January 13, 2021, 04:00:06 PM
aaaah cool :).
Thanks for your clarification.

Currently I am running 2 x 3060TI MSI Gaming x trio cards.
Running at about 61.8mh/s per card, and has been really stable.
If I got to 62mh/s then I start to get invalid shares, but I did put my power limit down to 65.
Core clock -502 and Memory clock + 1150.


How are you guys getting your 3060ti to 60mh?

Used the above setting and got 54 with Phoenix.

Every GPU is different start with 0 core clock +1,000 mem and lower power until you starting getting under 60MH then stay with that power setting and experiment with higher mem and lower core.  Every 3060 ti i've worked with settles 61-63Mh 118-130w depending on brand and silicon.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: maXonja on January 13, 2021, 04:03:42 PM
Palit RTX3060 Ti
65% PL
-400 core
+1400 memory
63MH/s


Gainward RTX3080

75% PL
+0 core
+1500 memory
102.4 MH/s

On 3060 Ti in 24 hour period I'm getting few incorrect shares (maybe 4-5), RTX3080 has 0 incorrect shares


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: rednoW on January 13, 2021, 06:17:15 PM
I will wait for rtx 3050ti 20Gb for mining  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: batsonxl on January 13, 2021, 06:25:01 PM
very stupid strategy from nvidia they put 10g memory in 3080 and then 12g for 3060 with 192bit. will be nice doing 3080 with 12g and 3060ti 10gb regular 3060 8g,


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: P00P135 on January 13, 2021, 07:45:05 PM
very stupid strategy from nvidia they put 10g memory in 3080 and then 12g for 3060 with 192bit. will be nice doing 3080 with 12g and 3060ti 10gb regular 3060 8g,

I dont think its a strategy its usually due to what RAM is available from the manufacturers at the time.  What they have to pay for it and what kind of price point they want the GPU.  Like in your example 3080's use GDDR6x and 3060's use GDDR6 which is a lot cheaper.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: philipma1957 on January 13, 2021, 08:04:35 PM
I think it's all speculation at this stage.
As this source says different memory bandwidth/ boost clock is also different.
The memory speed is also something to take account for.

Check the specs here as well:

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb-gddr6-graphics-card-official-ampere-ga106-gpu-launching-in-february-for-329-us/

3060 memory speed is 17 Gbps and 3060ti is 14, that is 20% more, so yeah 50 to 55mhs at best is my take.

This might be the best card ever to purchase for mining and likely to have a good resell value too since is 12gb. The question now is price.

Nope not price at all availability is still the issue.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: cudapop on January 14, 2021, 10:32:02 AM
Where did Wccftech get that 17gbps 3060 memory speed from? The actual 3060 product webpages for Palit and Inno3D list 15gbps as the memory speed for their 3060 cards. What AIB is using 17gbps for the memory speed?


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: Metroid on January 14, 2021, 10:46:58 AM
Where did Wccftech get that 17gbps 3060 memory speed from? The actual 3060 product webpages for Palit and Inno3D list 15gbps as the memory speed for their 3060 cards. What AIB is using 17gbps for the memory speed?

I wonder about that too. here https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-announced they wrote 16.


Title: Re: 3060 12Gb Announcement
Post by: cudapop on January 16, 2021, 01:47:34 PM
Where did Wccftech get that 17gbps 3060 memory speed from? The actual 3060 product webpages for Palit and Inno3D list 15gbps as the memory speed for their 3060 cards. What AIB is using 17gbps for the memory speed?

I wonder about that too. here https://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-12gb-announced they wrote 16.

MSI and Gigabyte product pages for their 3060 12GB cards are up and also show a memory speed of 15gbps. Looks like the 17gbps speed value from Wccftech was bogus.