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Avalanche made massive gains last week and is continuing to take a leading position of projects to improve Ethereum like it is today. Avalanche has proven to be a groundbreaking platform and is constantly announcing new partnerships and projects based on Avalanche.

But is it really possible for Avalanche to surpass Ehereum? Ethereum is big, famous and leading, everyone knows and uses it.


I have made a list of arguments for and against Avalanche surpassing Ethereum:


Reasons why Avalanche will surpass Ethereum:

• Better tech because Avalanche is using Avalanche consensus: better scaling, better decentralization, 4.5k transactions per second and fast transaction confirmation
• It is very expensive to use Ethereum for small transactions currently
• Avalanche is a capped asset (720,000,000 AVAX cap) – Ethereum has infinite supply
• Ethereum 2.0 will take much more time to develop. Plenty time for Avalanche to prove to be better
• Avalanche network is saving energy (green)

Reasons why Avalanche will not surpass Ethereum:

• Ethereum is big, famous and leading, everyone knows and uses it
• Developers won’t abandon Ethereum
• Huge funding for Ethereum

What it your opinion? Will Avalanche surpass Ethereum?

Avalanche may have better tech, but overall, Ethereum is a well polished cryptocurrency, the downside for ETH is that it is indeed expensive when making transactions, honestly, it's my first time hearing Avalanche, I did a background check on Avalanche and it looks really promising, but as of now, I really don't think it can surpass ETH not only with its value but also its popularity.

Although you are right with those features, Avalance is just some ordinary Altcoins that need to undergo a long process to gain popularity and Ethereum has already done that long ago. As you can see there are lots of networks in the altcoin section that prove the convenience and ease to use when you trade them. for example Ripples and Tron, as you can see right now, didn't even get some huge price after that because what they are lacking is the main core of to become top is the popularity itself and the liquidity.

AVAX is a bit superior compared with ethereum in term of technical features that already offered but it doesn't seem avax can replace ethereum. It's not only avax but this has been happening since a few years ago since the smartcontract platform created by the waves platform being introduced to be the competitor for ethereum.
people are knowing ethereum is the best smartcontract platform even there are still some problems like scalability and uncapped supply.
People feel more convenience to use ethereum compared with another smartcontract platform.

In terms of tech, could say Avalanche only needs massive adoption. Based on OP's details it's pretty well seen the improvement of Avalanche, I've tried it myself and use and personally it is fast than ethereum when making transactions. But its too early to say they can manage to break eth popularity. There are also other network or chain that could rival eth, but this Avalanche is definitely one of it same as polkadot.

Price appreciation and valuation, its too early for avax, can also increase more in the future.

The chance gonna be slim, I mean the market cap is not even close and it's hard to disrupt the already existing ecosystem within ethereum blockchain not to mention that Ethereum is basically the first way-to-go for many projects because all the things needed just there. If avalanche team really trying to overtake Ethereum they gonna need more things coming to their blockchain or else not gonna happen.

Avalanche does great things. It is one of the most developing projects. I listened to CEO Emin Gün Sirer's speech in the previous days. Everything is fine for them now, but they are not rivals to Ethereum. They are completely on Ethereum's side and want to help. I think in the future both Ethereum and Avalanche will be succesfull very well.

You can compare the time of existence between Avax and eth, this is a project thats is still new compare to ethereum which have been around for some years now, so far within the period of existence avax have done some great work and will continue to do so, avax is 2020 project but already achieve a lot, i think if this project exist as long as eth, there is a possibility it could surpass eth especially in the tech aspect.

Avalanche has a great community and that is what they are trying to build, they have improved their system a lot but more importantly they have gathered so many people who would be interested in the project.

The difference is that many new projects get the attention of people who would like to get rich quick, they just give tokens in exchange of ethereum and they just take all that ethereum and run away and customers get the token and try to sell it and make a profit, that is how almost all the new projects has been. This wasn't like that, they locked so much money away and explained themselves and people listened, now there are soo many people who are interested in the project.

With all of that being said, I still think it is impossible for avax to pass ethereum, it is a cool coin and all, maybe even top 10 one day, but it will never beat ethereum, no way.

Why is there a need to overcome Ethereum and can Avalanche surpass an estimated market of 32 Billion Dollars in daily values? I'm not against the project, but I would like to understand why most comparisons involve Ethereum and why it generates a discard idea for Ethereum.

Ethereum has its qualities and a large community.

Avalance is not even surpassing DOT and it's too far to think that avax can surpass ethereum. This coin is not even entered in the top coins.
Emin is always shilling for his own coin. He's too naive always criticizing ethereum and we know that there's an agenda for him to build FOMO for his coin.
It will never happen for AVAX to surpass ethereum.

When we try to make transactions right now on Ethereum, it is very expensive and cost much of ETH. Normal Ethereum transfers are already expensive but DeFi transactions like Uniswap are wasting our Ethereum for fees. And if we want real MASS adoption, we need to process much more transaction. Ethereum network is currently very limited to make more transaction, because transaction will get more expensive. It is even right now already to expensive.


It will happen soon and Polkadot compared to Avalanche, it's an easy competitor. Because Polkadot is very inflational, not like Bitcoin or Avalanche. Bitcoin and Avalanche have capped supply (Bitcoin 21 Million, Avalanche 720 Million), Polkadot is not capped. It will cause a big loss, when Polkadot gets inflated over time.

It will happen soon, did you follow Avalanche progress? Avalanche will launch a Pangolin, it's Uniswap but based on Avalanche platform. Almost no fees and almost instant confirmation times. It will make real DeFi possible. And it's much more to come.

Because he CAN. He knows what Avalanche is capable of and soon, it will be shown to public participants.
It will get difficult to pass Ethereum because Ethereum is very famous but Avalanche has much better tech.

It is if Ethereum misses to offer Ethereum 2.0 soon and many new projects want to launch, it can simply happen no one can use Ethereum anymore because fees are crazy high. Should it happen, new projects will join competitor projects where fees are low and when it happens quickly, it may overtake Ethereum before Ethereum 2.0 ist ready.

But it is only likely when Ethereum 2.0 will fail or take many years for development.

well, I don't think so. do u think there's any possibility that eth surpasss btc?

It can happen when Ethereum 2.0 is really nice to use like fast and low fees.
But here again, Bitcoin will be much more valuable because Bitcoin is store of value: Bitcoin has a limit of 21 Million coins, it is capped supply.
Ethereum has not limit, it is infinite supply.
As a result it could be possible for Avalanche to overtake Ethereum because Avalanche has also a limit of 720 Million coins, like Bitcoin has also a limit. And we all know how much value a BTC is.
Finally, Avalanche also has Ethereum use cases (ICO, DeFi...) and Bitcoin use cases (store of value). It could be huge.

Yes, when Ethereum can't get ready for ETH 2.0 in time, existing projects will be looking for better networks and Avalanche is leading here. Because Ethereum 2.0 was planned long ago but it will take so much time to be working. If it takes too long, new projects won't chose Ethereum to build on.

I think that avalance cant be able to surpasses ethereum especially that it have already establish its reputation to the crypto community. Also, its developer is really working to make ethereum time to time develope and enhance to satisfy users and investors as well.

One thing is that newly created projects are trying to replace Ethereum's position in this market is impossible, ETH is too strong to have any project created that could affect it. Let's look back to the past and see that NEO EOS TRX DOT BNB is both considered competitor and replaceable to ETH, but we need to appreciate its value in the current market. I firmly believe that the demand for ETH in the future will increase more and more and that helps it maintain its position in this market.

To tell you the truth i never heard of Avalanche. It is difficult for any project to replace the Ethereum in the near future. At the present time only Polkadot seems to be an interesting project but it will also not replace ethereum even though it is much better than eth.

Unfortunately, I never heard this phrase until I had to search for it on google.  Honestly, the first time I was quite surprised with TOP 40 on coinmarketcap.  Definitely the potential, but to compare and beat ETH it is a very long road, so far, only XRP has surpassed ETH twice before it plummeted.  with Avalanche, that would be very far away.

I don't see this as a good way to issue a problem or about a new project. Agree that it is doing very well and can overcome the limitations on ETH, but that is not enough for it to overcome ETH. Ethereum has been too strong in the market, and indeed there are a lot of people who support and believe in it in the future. I dare you to say that after ETH 2.0 is completed, you will change your mind about whether ETH will replace bitcoin, please slowly feel it.

I don't think Ethereum has infinite supply anymore, on coinmarketcap it shows that the circulating supply is exact number with total supply which is 114,380,887 ETH available, this number haven't increase, you can see that yourself using the link below
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/

Avalanche is big, it's not that hard to see but I expected avalanche to do better than Polkadot, presently we can see that things are going the other way, it's still too early to start putting avalanche and Ethereum head to head, I think the worthy opponent right now is Polkadot

Every use cases that avalanche posses aren't new, I'm telling the fact that there are many smart contract project that have better utility than Ethereum but that still doesn't change anything, it's same thing with bitcoin, it's old and even BCH fix many issues that is affecting Bitcoin but do you see BCH at the first position?

Polkadot beats Litecoin, I'm guessing it's easier to say Ethereum can be beaten too but it won't be that easy, to Avalanche is still down under top 10 on coinmarketcap today, a long way to go and yes the project is a must buy and hold but I can't say if it will beat Ethereum, only time can tell

Don't forget that ethereum has an active developer community which you can't find on a similar crypto protocol. In addition, most of the components offered by Avalanche have been covered by ethereum. ethereum also has a large number of users, and I don't think they can easily shift to avalanche where not many are familiar with their technology

I’ll have to tell you that there is no way the AVAX altcoin surpass the market cap of Ethereum as Its not just a regular cryptocurrency that you can just buy and sell, Ethereum is a platform where developers can build their programs. A lot of new ICOs are built on the Ethereum platform and that's what makes it different from any other cryptocurrency. I see Ethereum as a technology that helps bring blockchain into each area of business in our current world.

In my opinion, it is absolutely impossible for Avalanche to surpass Ethereum, like you said Ethereum is big, famous, leading and huge funding.
It seems that reasons have confirmed that it is difficult for Avalanche to surpass Ethereum, it is not enough to rely on better tech to beat Ethereum.
Even now, Avalanche's ranking is still at number 40, very far from Ethereum's position which is in rank 2. But Avalanche is a good project, although
it doesn't go beyond Ethereum. But it is very worth buying, according to my research results Avalanche  can provide profit if we HODL until the end of
this year.

Avalanche is capable to be a big altcoin some day, it has good utilities that Ethereum never had but let's not forget that avalanche isn't the first of its kind, Ethereum have many contenders for many past years already, anything can happen for sure but it won't be that easy for any project to take the second position

It could be, but I doubt that they can even take 50% of projects on ETH, I would say that 80% are still in ETH main net and the rest of 20% are split across several competitors including Avalanche.

There re a lot of projects right now that are fast and cheap transaction fees and yet they can't still compete with ETH as far as investments is concern. ETH is still the prime mover of Dapps and altcoin ecosystem. It will be hard to overcome that even in new projects are offering better solutions, just saying.

When you look closely at Ethereum, you will realize that one of the reasons why it kept growing and maintaining its competitive advantage is that, it offers a really user-friendly platform for new and upcoming projects to build on, enhance their services, attract the needed investors and migrate to their own blockchain if they want, in all terms, if the team of an upcoming project is skilled, thus with the aid of Ethereum platform, they will be able to grow their project to whatever height they want. Also, the Ethereum team are well experienced and ready to ensure the blockchain keeps functioning effectively, hence the reason for the ETH 2.0. In addition, another proof that Ethereum won't easily be overtaken by other projects is that, even with the high fees witnessed for a long time now, more people and projects are still going for its services while it keeps growing tremendously. Therefore, No, Avalanche will not surpass Ethereum.

Let's push avalanche aside for a minute and talk about Polkadot that have already defeat LTC, do you think it can beat Ethereum? I don't think so because everything that all these new altcoins have are present in Ethereum, adoption wise Ethereum can't be defeat like LTC, judging from Ethereum marketcap, team development and others

Why do people want to surpass ethereum? What will you achieve with it? Avax is a great project and creators are wise people who know what they are doing, they are planning far ahead as well, so if one day it becomes as big as ethereum, or even go higher, it will work better and cheaper and faster so it is a great project to have.

Think about it, anything that can be done on ethereum could be done on avax and be done a lot faster and cheaper, and there is plus more things you can do with it, so it makes sense that avax could surpass it if it is so much better right? Well ethereum is 10x better than bitcoin in that case, many things that can be done on ETH can't be done on bitcoin, bitcoin blockchain is weaker and a lot worse, but when you look at the marketcap it is not even remotely close to each other. This is why just being better doesn't mean being bigger.

Nothing is impossible in this world, Ethereum is better because of many few reasons but all those reasons can be shifted to another project, it feels like it's impossible only because there is no project that's as good as Ethereum yet

We can only think about this in the next two or three years to come. ethereum has been surviving the negative storm for over 5 to 6 years and it never drop below the required other. Avalanche is just a new blokchain project just like the rest that already made huge price movement on start up and during bull market. we will consider if avalanche has what it takes to surpass ethereum  if it can handle the amount of transaction in ethereum.

I think I'll go with the reasons why Avalanche can't surpass Ethereum.

Ethereum has been here for awhile already and it's leading the altcoins market, even if there's a better tech than ETH, it won't get the support of the investors as they ETH to bring them more profit in the long run, it's not the tech alone that will make a project successful, it's more on the support of the people and since ETH was created early, it has gained a lot of supporters already.

Most project isn't really new, EOS, TRON or Polkadot are still using classical consensus and classical consensus is limited because it scales quadratical. You can have 100 nodes, it all works fine but if you have 200 nodes, it is already 4 times more difficult to reach consensus. If you have 400 nodes, it is 16 times more difficult. Classical consensus can't scale but Avalanche consensus can scale because every node is participating actively.
BCH has good feature but it's still limited. Avalanche had a dev, he was a BCH dev and works now at Avalanche because BCH is too limited. He made a good decision.

Indeed! There will be platforms with advanced features than ETH.
But it is the popularity of usage and the sustenance of their clients that will make a difference.
Also, it is how their respective devs are dedicated to advance their platform.
Some will wane their enthusiasm to build their project as time goes by.
Very few can survive the bottlenecks in the market. If you have no sufficient funds, you can easily drop off in the list.
I believe, that's the strong point of eth dev team. They have solid backing and more than enough funds to make progress.

One thing we should understand here is that we are in competitive world, that Avalanche is just trying to gain popularity with these strategies that Ethereum had already gained.

Wait wait what the heck with this question  ;D , first see the market in this link ETH (https://trade.kucoin.com/ETH-BTC) you can see that ETH have more volume. And make the AVAX goes to rank 10 before you ask this question.

Sure deal this coin is trying to get some attention since ETH already have everything in terms of support. Comparing any project to ETH brings interest to the readers and for sure expect that this project will be check by those who are aiming for good benefits, investors and traders who loves to take chances in any projects that have potentials in the long run.

Still need more research before dealing with coins, old or new project it's still needed to have an in-depth
research and good understanding before jumping into investment.

But do you imagine after ETH 2.0, the miner community will left Ethereum. I predict many coins will try to grow their popularity from that event and its not impossible Ethereum will be overthrone. As i seen Avalanche have opportunity for it, technology feature will be one of considerations of investors to join.

It is hard to beat already established blockchains. Ethereum is already used by both individuals and definitely, institutions widely.
With more improvements in ethereum, it's community will only go up and make ethereum further strong.
Avalanche is also a good project and it can also and with time, it will also make it's own place.

Absolutely NOT. Ethereum is the birth place and home to DEFI. And DEFI is gonna go big very very soon.

The only thing that can make ethereum lose its position is lack of supporters, if all developers can abandon Ethereum for avalanche then there is possiblity that avalanche will grow over Ethereum and sit in the second sit on coinmarketcap, Ethereum support is just too strong so it's never going to happen.

But what will happen if fees are going to explode on Ethereum? Ethereum 2.0 will take a long time untill it arrives. Right now it is already so expensive to use. If you don't are rich and make big transactions for DeFi, fees are around 10%. If you want to swap 500$, fees can be 50$, it is 10%.
At such high fees, it is impossible for DeFi to grow because normal users are going to avoid it. Nobody will pay 10% fee.

I have no doubt it will be big success for Avalanche because users will use a DeFi where fees are low. When Pangolin at Avalanche is live, it will make boom at Ethereum.

Avalanche is a good token in itself but ETH is the second largest cap crypto after BTC. Many DeFi projects are running on the ETH blockchain. It is very hard for any alt to surpass ETH.

If DeFi have their own blockchain technology and didn't use the platform of ETH, then I believe they have the chance to take over ETH but since they are fully dependent on ETH platform, they can' surpass ETH. There's a lot of project that seeks to be on top, even Chainlink, Uniswap, BNB and XRP wants to place on the top 2 position but only XRP was able to do that back then. ETH is rising along with the DeFi project, Its hard to beat ETH on top for now.

I want to say all these points that you have already mentioned here. Ethereum network has already expanded so much that it is not so easy to replace it with some other network. Also, eth is the 2nd largest marketcap in CMC and investors have more faith in it as the mother of all cryptocurrency. I think infinite supply is not a problem as long as it gives profits to the miners.

Eth already have the advantage in terms of community supports, aside from that are those teams who keeps developing project using

Eth chain, this function give Eth advancement to all those projects that also having the desire of offering the same functions, it will take

longer time to develop community trust which both bitcoin and Eth are having now.

I think it is good you have found a project you really like but right now some newcomer overtaking Ethereum I doubt that to be realistic. People start calling Ethereum the next Amazon already. Then there is Polkdot and Dfinity about to start the next weeks is also not to be ignored. The community of Ethereum and the ecosystem are massive.

even avalanche has a lot of excess if we comparing with ethereum,
but i'm sure Avalanche will not surpass the ethereum my friend

So far, there are many tokens or coins that claim to replace Ethereum. They include new coins that have great power and also a chance to increase. You may find DOT, EOS, NEO, and others. But what? Ethereum still because of the king of altcoins. and no altcoin really can replace it. So, it should be the same with Avalanche, I doubt it to surpass Ethereum. Sorry, mate!!

it cannot be, eth is the top coins in the market it js number 2and has a value of thousand dollar, we can say that eth is still pumping and eth 2.0 is coming we can see the less congested and lower fess chain in the market now. But I can a little news can make it fall so we need to get ready in case of something. But avalanche cannot surpass eth, not possible for the trend now. Maybe if their volume might decrease and will make the price into hundred dollar maybe possible.

I heard with eth 2 lauch, supply if eth will also be reduced plus many eth will be locked for staking. This will send eth to $5k easily.
Avalanche is not even closer to it. I think dot will perform better than Avalanche after eth.

We must admit that Ethereum copes with the onslaught of competitors with dignity and does not lose its grip. Many hope for its collapse, but I think this will not happen in the near future.
Experts believe that after breaking through the level, the price of Ethereum can easily double. Most Ethereum analysts agree that ETH will remain in the $ 2500-3000 range over the year.

strong community behind the ethereum will always support this coin, and because of that including the reason from your post above
for sure i bet AVAlanche will never surpass the ethereum
regards

This reason is enough to know that right now ETH  (https://trade.kucoin.com/ETH-BTC) will not be supassed by AVAX

Ethereum goes to 2 cycles of crypto market, 2 halvings, 2 bubbles and it shows it is a strongest altcoin. Avalanche is young and you can believe, disbelieve it is a promising altcoin, it is your opinion. Although young altcoin tends to look very promising, from roadmap, and early pumps and short waiting time between their waves, times is the factor to verify their quality and power.

After 4 years, one cycle of the market, you can get better view on Avalanche. This project is very young and you are overvalue it. It won't surpass Ethereum next 4 years.
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/avalanche/

Avalanche can become more noticeable in future, the teams are professionals and you can see that they are fast with development but to me avalanche is a undervalued project presently, for those looking for a hidden gem avalanche haven't show it's true potential just yet

Ethereum is superior in capitalization and in token value, but if possible, blockchain projects are superior to many other projects, the same EOS, where creating your own tokens is much more convenient and easier.

But after the release of Ethereum 2.0, my opinion may change.

can Polkadot surpass ethereum?
can Tron surpass ethereum?
can EOS surpass ethereum?
Can Binance smart Chain surpass Ethereum?
can Cardano surpass ethereum?
Can Avalanche surpass Ethereum?

all the answers, could not and never will.
ethereum is a special project and can't be beat. The Dapps network may have grown and there are many projects that offer advantages that ethereum doesn't have, but they can't make the ethereum fans switch. everyone is comfortable with ethereum, even though they are a less friendly and expensive platform. but ethereum can give them profit.

I really don"t think so. Avalance is just an ordinary Altcoins that need to undergo a long process to gain popularity and Ethereum has already done that long ago. In that time when Avalanche gain the position of ETH, ETH will go far more away from now. So possible but nearly impossible as well. ETH is far far away from Avalanche.

What are you even talking about bro? Ethereum is everywhere it is now the choice of not only institutions but also many governments across the world using it for different services. Ethereum is a practical reality that has deep roots and extreme global adoption so even the better new projects cannot claim to be eth alternatives. Eth will remain Eth please clarify this.

Someone knows how to buy DAI Avalanche?
Maybe somewhere can be exchanged BEP 20 DAI on Avalanche DAI?

Hey negga, are you trying to promote Avalanche here or you are just ignorantly comparing them. Maybe you should just compare it with Bitcoin since it doesn't show you the market cap of Ethereum and the numbers of persons and institutions that had adopted it.

Don't compare ignorantly here cause we all are not newbies and we'll know what it would take for a coin to achieve such kind of levels Ethereum had reached.

I repeat my question, maybe I will find someone who knows.
Someone knows how to buy DAI Avalanche?
Maybe somewhere can be exchanged BEP 20 DAI on Avalanche DAI?

Avanlanche is a good competition for ethereum and I think going forward, Avalanche will prove to better. Ethereum however have raised the bar of development in cryptocurrency and despite some of the developmental challenges been experienced on ethereum network, ethereum is still widely used and preferrred by developers and cryptocurrency community!

Having read your reasons, I think avalanche won't surpass Ethereum. I am looking at ethereum surpassing bitcoin!

Avalanche, of course, can in the future both catch up and overtake Ethereum, since the technologies and capabilities of Avalanche are incredible and they are becoming more and more popular every day, but I think that at the moment only BNB and binance smart chain are a direct competitor to Ethereum, therefore, other cryptocurrencies like Avalanche still have very little chance of catching up with Ethereum, and when all stages of Ethereum 2.0 will be released, other cryptocurrencies such as Avalanche will have very little chance of catching up with Ethereum.

Exactly my opinion :)
We should be comparing ethereum to bitcoin!

Avalanche should be compared with SOLANA or magic instead of eth.

Of course, this does not mean that I am not optimistic about him.

I want to choose the right time to study it in detail in the near future.

I don't believe that avalanche will be able to pass ethereum...

avalanche is a good project but it's just an emerging project and doesn't have a strong community yet. even now I don't see avalanche having strong adoption.

Avalanche belongs to the tier 2 smart contract projects and I can not agree more with you on this. It should be compared to SOLANA, Polkadot, MAGIC rather than compare to Ethereum.

Those projects will need four or five years to grow and they are not quality enough to compare to ETH. They got early success but not enough and smaller than what ETH has gotten.

In my opinion, there is no way for it to surpass Ethereum, Avalanche is also not the first contender for ETH, there are plenty of them which can make investors would be divided on who to invest in, and I also believe that as soon as ethereum fix their high gas fees it's game over, and this doesn't mean Avalanche won't get higher in rank but surpassing ETH is what seems impossible.

It is also using layer one Blockchain technology like Etherum AVAX lanch by a group of anonymous people name Team Rocket In the Upcoming time AVAX can easily surpassed ETH AVAX a growing platform making a lot of partnership with top players of market like Curve that help in growing Defi Ecoystem The Highlighted point about AVAX is they are using AB BRIDGING technology which help the users to transfer their Assest between AVAX and ETH , One more reason will be AVAX GREAT TOKONOMICSand had superb burning mechanism that help making ongoing supply really less and ultimately help in making AVAX price on moon
So Conclusion It will Surely one day Go Ahead with Etherum

Yes it will be.

I first heard about Bitcoin at $11 per BTC and Ethereum at $25. I did nothing and missed the beginning stages of those.
Everything I've researched shows me that AVAX will reach those levels. I wont miss out on this one for sure.

When did you see btc $11??
I personally believe ETH will continue to be number 2 just as bitcoin will continue to be number 1 in crypto, even though it looks slow and outdated but its popularity and trust has been built and it will be hard to break it.