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I think atm its just to crazy for words that in movies or series to be "political correct" ... Actors cannot play a person from other origine, in every movie there has to be a coloured person involved or there have to be some gay or lesbienne involvement or whatever... If the story line doesn't necessarily need something, then they still put something in the mix to avoid discrimination etc ... Getting so annoyed by those things like WTF

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Only one example of many many...

But grease banned from streaming services because of: Homophobia, slut-shaming and racism

Or like in the Avengers end game, when its so obvious that in the end the group of woman had an apart and special moment (extra feminism in those Marvel movies) and many other points in those movies...

Or like in Belgium there is a new version of Big Brother (not really my thing) But I noticed, 10 people in the house which are 1 Arab, 1 Chinese, 1 Black, 1 gay guy, Lesbienne woman, Vegan, a very overweight etc all in a group of the first 10

"Of course that is on purpose, otherwise it is not politically correct"


"that so to speak, a mirror of society. But in a population of 11 people, there were no such differences" imho


Am I wrong or is getting movies and series and TV being to much corrected by politics and discrimination etc, imo opinion its losing its free will to bring movies as how they want ... I don't mind whatever people to participate in movies if the role is there, but at the moment I don't like whats happening ...

Watched the El Chapo Series on Netflix. Great series! But lots of times I felt throwing up when they showing the gay couple making out for minutes. I mean ok we are tolerant we accept any living form blah... But cmon I dont have to see that in almost every episode. We got it.

But yeah, that's the world we are heading to. That's how they are programming the masses. The globalists/deep state aiming for a one world state. And that's how they prepare us. It always was through TV and news. Even though it might take another 50 years, they start from the kids. While they also try to program people that child abuse is no big deal. See al the series and stuff coming out last couple years. At the end most of our leaders and the ultra rich are pedophiles.

Exactly ... I really don't dislike other origine, I'm certainly NOT a racist, I have gay friends on the forum I do like boblawblaw very much and he's a black gay as well... But the point in movies etc its just going to far and ffs banning Grease  ::)  ::)

But also like in every action movie for example new netflix thing The old guard... Involving a woman as leader, a black woman, Gay couple, all the ingredients are allways the same...

Or in other blockbusters with Chinese actors to sell better in Asian lands etc

I hate political correctness. What does that even mean? In a story, movie, game, show, whatever, there may, or may not be whites, blacks, Asians, gays, lesbians, thin, fat, tall, short, and every other combination. This is part of the story. But to FORCEFULLY add everyone in the mix, just to be politically correct, is totally wrong IMHO, and distorts the artist's intended creation.

We are (or should be) free to express ourselves in any way we want, as long as we do not cause harm to, or limit the freedom of anybody. If I'm a painter and I like black women, my paintings will contain black women. I don't want to be forced to add whites, Asians, etc. Same applies to any other preference. If people don't like my paintings, they can just ignore them.

I also don't agree with the race/gender percentage employment policies that are sometimes enforced in companies. If I have a company, I don't want to be forced to employ xx% whites, yy% blacks, zz% Asians, aa% men, bb% women, etc. I want to employ people based on their skills in relation to the job requirements. Whoever is more capable should get he job, regardless of gender or race.

That's why i have banned TV from my home, years ago.
We look up classic stuff for the kids, mostly on youtube and streaming providers, besides pokemon and documentaries.
I have loads of movies of all genres on my NAS and various external harddrives, my poor memory helps me enjoy them many times.

You guys are just now noticing this?
I have been regretfully aware of this for years.. It really sucks because once you see it you just can’t enjoy media like you used to be able to..

The other big one is commercials.. Almost always a black male white female couple in commercials propagandizing everyone to racemixing..
It would be no big deal if it was just once in a while, but it’s like EVERY one..

I think UK law says their HAS to be “diversity” in like every commercial and everything on TV..

I very rarely watch TV at all..
Welcome to the blackpill..

It's hard to watch anything anymore.

I was watching one TV series and one of the very last episodes they cut to a scene where one of the girls comes out as gay and her feelings about that, then it never comes up ever again in the whole series. They could have gone through the whole show without that scene and it would have had zero impact on the plot. Is there some quota or something in Hollywood or something now?

I mean, I do get it...homosexuals tend to have more money because they usually don't have kids. They are a great customer. So for capitalist reasons it makes sense.

I almost opened a gay bar for this very reason. The bar I owned wasn't even close to making the amount of money the gay bar down the street. It's all about the BTCBTCBTC

I've been noticing this for a while, but it's only recently that I really got pissed off. WTF... black people ruling noble families in Victorian England? I guess political correctness has become more important than historical correctness. This was the realization that really triggered me.

I propose we demand that the next King Lear be played by a black woman. Openly gay if possible. Or else we ban Willy Shakespeare altogether: the racist cunt never wrote a black protagonist.

It’s that bridgeton serie or something not? My Gf is enjoying that LoL  ::) ::) But indeed, it’s just WAAAAY off...

Also at eddie13, this is for me also already much longer annoying, but it’s getting worse and worse...
it’s just reaching that point that in almost every movie all those aspects are being showed at some way, even when they are pointless or whatever...

Or like in Argo when Ben afleck plays a Jew ... critics .... But why, my brain is too small to understand.

But the feminism in recent movies and so on.... really really annoying.

In the Netherlands a 23 y old girl made the news, she made a gender free deck of cards cause the old ones refer to stats of King higher as a Queen etc ...WTF

Made the news like it’s a good thing...

Yes, that's it! I'm not watching it - don't like the genre very much - but some (female) relatives are crazy about it.


I'm fairly sure this madness will fade, and at some future time they will laugh at us.

Can't say i don't share the same feeling with you just hearing it. Its absurd how the world has got to accept these things and hope that the others do too. I feel betrayed at times and really wish things aren't the way they are on that note. Well, that's the feeling we get when i's not our thing and i don't blame anyone who shares this feeling.

Sometimes film makers have got to realize that it goes beyond the targeted audience at times. I understand they tend to represent all characters and human behavour all in the idea of the audience to whom they intend to move market with but, if it isn't necessary then, it shouldn't be there. Too much fiction and improvising is boring.

I get the point of all of you and I mostly agree. Maybe this is because most of us are white, straight and male.

As an example, in my country's TV, the prime time is often conducted by openly gay moderators. (Most) viewers won't have sex with them, so, why is their orientation so important if all humans are equal? their sexuality is always present as a main piece that completes the "product" they are. It is not a matter of respect, integration or whatever and it is not representative at all from the demographic perspective: the main reason is that they sell more because of the target they are oriented. After decades of dictatorship where gay people were killed, and a long transition, this is seen as progress now, but I think that in fact it is little more than the same story it has always been: some people looking to keep monetising the trends (built by them? who knows, I'm not so sure as many here about cause and effect relation here).

So, at least in western countries, this is like: let's simplify to a point that is ridiculous (straight/white=legacy=somehow bad vs. gay/ethnic=progress=mostly good) and benefit from many people's dual mode mindset.

This is nothing new, we keep seeing "models", a very old story, and most people don't realise that these models don't reflect the reality, but the idea somebody wants to sell us (again, maybe just because, due to the circumstances, they are easier to be sold, not because of a masterplan necessarily). Many of these models are built in order to get you depressed, feel empty and consume to ineffectively fill this emptiness. Others, to make you sympathise with the brand they represent. And it seems to be always prepared to punish the critics, automatically labelling them as intolerant, regressive...

In part, I feel bad because I understand that, somehow, I can't be objective in this topic due to my own labels. But isn't "your opinion doesn't matter because you are SWM" quite a limited vision, too?

Pretty sure most people agree with the whole ‘adding people for the sake of adding people into the mix is stupid’ you either add people into the story with a real character line or no at all.

Pleasing groups just with throwing in a token black person, or a token gay person isn’t really doing anything and is just cringy at best. I’ve seen a lot of great movies / shows with minority characters that have a great story line and character development. But I’ve also seen ones that do it horribly.

Hopefully people will show directors / producers that a token isn’t enough and is just bullshit.

i do not mind movies which try to be more diverse.
but when they then tweak the story line to really push it as an obvious plot. that itself then becomes discriminatory by overtly pushing it.

yes i noted the excess feminism scene in avengers:endgame. also in captain marvel.
it was just too far into feminism for a minute i forgot it was a superhero movie.
and thought it was a feminist meeting documentary.

there is a big difference between
a group of men marching into battle. where there thoughts are lets fight
vs
a group of women that look to each other like 'hey look we are obviously a group of women' lets spend a few seconds actually admiring that we grouped together in some girl power band
..
other DC tv series are excessively promoting feminism. it seems if a female is a superhero she also has to be lesbian or related to lesbian or atleast bi sometimes.. batwoman, supergirl, woderwoman, etc

its like they remove the false-stereotype of 1950's 'women in the kitchen'. and replaced it with women in a same sex relationship.

it just goes too far.

wonderwoman was good. not pushy about amazon feminist culture. it just got on with the movie. so congrats
but tv shows like supergirl.. every episode had to highlight feminism/lesbianism in some way.
im not talking about the plot suggestions that supergirl is stronger than superman. i accept that on its own merit due to biological theory behind the plot.
im talking about how it over emphasises lesbians and then makes all the males single and unsuccessful in life and love.
it got soo bad that when seeing stargirl last year. i was actually waiting for a lesbian plot twist because i had the thought 'its bound to be a thing sooner or later'.. which just then becomes a distraction from any actual superhero tv show plot

i got nothing against the lesbian scenes. but atleast dont go overboard to push it into obviousness, as that distracts from the story line.

its like they think of 30 years of tv has been 80% straight male dominant. they need to push female dominent lesbianism to 240% in 10 years to make up for it

It has nothing to do with being white, straight and male, if the story line goes in an African set up, then there is no need for some white actors whom not needed there, if the movie is about gay couples then there is no need for me to especially see some straight people kissing as well etc, the movie has to be how the story is wanted to bring by the director.... And the most annoying is just, that ALL those spoken points are been given attention in every single big budget TV, even smaller budget TV are getting the virus...

They wanna mirror society and bringing it way wrong.... also in history things just happened, no need to twist them around....

They can have a vision imo and bring up some twisted stories from the past, fiction can be anything imo, but just not in every single movie etc all those same aspects just to be "political correct" and avoid being criticized  for ...

Same here, I did like Wonderwoman, didn't saw the second one yet.... but indeed, that movie was good to watch and of-course there are female superheroes, NP at all its good, but keep the story and movie on topic, not political BS

I don't like how politics are being used to critize movies. We always need to take into consideration at what time the movie was made. Politics are changing so fast, that a great movie 20-30 years ago might already be political incorrect today. What is appropriate today could politicall incorrect in 20 years. Movies are a form of Art and need to be taken as such.

They are altering reality while the world is breaking into pieces, they do not teach education, respect, values ​​and neither history nor culture interests them.
I'm not going to go deeper with examples, you just have to look around you.

+1 to you for being aware, no need to feel bad about it. You just made the case for BET
I’ts easier to identify with characters when you see yourselves in them



Except South Park (one of my favorite shows of all time  ;D)


I like diversity and especially portrayals that don’t caracture[ize]

When I was in grade school Star Trek came on once a week, I never questioned a woman as an officer. It wasn’t until my adult years that I found out a black woman on the bridge was a controversy.

By the way: Bridgerton is pure lady porn...not sure what historical accuracies you’re hoping for?

Im also tired seeing such series, movies or shows with political correctness intented for the sake of equality and no discrimination policy. Its way better to see an interesting movie (just like the old movies) where you can learn a lesson despite of not seeing a different type of people to bring color to the movie, its about the story and the moral lesson, thats what im looking for nowadays. Well there's a noontime show here wherein the main host is a gay, being said that the people behind the show often consider to have a game related to the sexual preference of the host (e.g beauty contest of boys and gays) he has also a lover in the show and they are showing their affection on national tv. Im not really against it and respect them but I'd rather turn off our tv and sleep.

So don't watch films/series where people are making out if it's making you uncomfortable. What's the big deal?

And who exactly is programming you? Maybe you should look at the mirror if some random poorly paid script writer can program your opinions trough a bad tv show.

i got no issues with couples making out whether they are same sex or not.
my issues are if the sci-fi TV show is 43minutes per episode but every episode of a category of action/sci-fi, is in the ratio of:
30minutes of relationship highlighting their sexuality and existential crises of their sexuality.
13 minutes of sci-fi action

then they should atleast re categorise is as sci-fi drama/sci-fi romcom/sci-fi romance

But also ... like being viewed as very controversial, when Robert downey Jr played as a black guy in Tropic thunder, its never been about racism but as a joke, why will there always be people seeing such things as offended or more crazy they say its been made to offend with racism attentions LoL, its very annoying when people can't see a joke or just laugh ....

Exactly but its just the getting more and more of politics in a single show or movie continuously.... Script writers don't dare making something whiteout those political points cause if they don't, there scripts will not get used ...

I watched the British Utopia series which was interesting.

I just started watching the American Netflix version of it and it's just in your face PC insanity. One guy's family is made up of children of every minority they could fit in there.

The show inspires me to become an American TV writer where it's mainly about disabled minority transgender people just doing every day normal stuff. No plot really necessary, maybe I'll throw in...hero has a bad day, hero overcomes it (or a tragedy...hero has a good day, it turns into a bad day). The hero being a mentally disabled minority quadriplegic that is struggling with his gender identity.

Do I hear Emmy?

Didn't saw that British serie ....

But watching the Mandalorian at the moment (probably something completely different  ::))

As they would say in the Mandalorian .. This is the way. <- how it works to win some Emmy's or whatever at this time of living.  ::)

FFS, just read that "Aquaman 2"

Aquaman 2 Reportedly Has A Lot More Girl Power And Feminism

https://www.awn.com/news/aquaman-2-may-focus-more-mera
https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/aquaman-2-reportedly-lot-girl-power-feminism/

.......... ::) ::)

I've been watching the TV series Yellowstone. 3 seasons in and no SJW shit.

It's a joy to watch.

probably because the actress who plays the princess has just been involved with a courtcase of domestic abuse with johny depp.

when realtime modern politics/drama get pushed into comic book stories lines of the last 50 years. it ruins the story.

whats next.
although i do support social distancing and mask wearing to avoid covid. if a marvel/DC movie went full-anal promoting social distanced action fighting in the movie..  that too would ruin the movie

though i do think some of the story lines have many on-genre flaws too. such as JL: aquaman meant to be a sea king able to hold back hundreds of metres of ocean pressure back to have a air bubble conversation. but in justice league he couldnt even hold back a busted sewer.. WEAK

While growing up, we were made to understand that movies could either be fictitious or not or perhaps carry a little bit of fiction about it. This gives film makers a vast area to build their story on. We come to understand that, with the digital age we've attained, a lot of things are learnt through movies and the coverage or patronage received on every movie download is high and as such, film makers just focus on enhancing their content to focus on the market because the market is there main business. Even the rate for movies (PG 13,16,18) don't make meaning no more. They present some of what i still consider abnormalities homosex, bisexuals, transgender and lots of others as though I were to accept it as traits of current civilization and that makes it right. Decorate history movies even before slave trade and pre-colonial era with mixed races just to move market and to present themselves as not being racist. Is that all that is to racism?

It's bad because, we learn the ways of the people before us from some of these movies and still be entertained. Why have it when it doesn't make sense of the production, when it changes a lot about the story, when it re-writes the history? Why have it when it's not a sustainable practice, when it only deepens the wounds on our injured society, when it doesn't tell a better story?
I wonder how it is that a human capable of reproduction with the opposite gender will choose a same sex pattern and when they need kids would look out for options from couples that aren't same sex. Perhaps if that could be stopped, it would ring a bell in the minds of those that find the act appealing.

Movies markers have to look beyond the market and they just might create contents that would beat the stains in the market and in turn, they would arrive.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4236770/

Seems to be good, 8,5... not bad, gonna add it to my list

Thx

Indeed, as I also really dislike movies which need PG 16 or even PG 18 but they cut out the bloody scenes etc just so kids can see it too and theres a wider public etc, I really like cinemas but only for maybe PG'ratings it could be better that movies going instant to streaming services... But still I hate it that the cinemas are closed

Also the market business gets a really good reflection that its all about the money, every blockbuster atm has some Asian characters in it, just to sell better in Asia etc

i dont mind diversity. if its part of the main movie character plot.
but if its just a fill in segment to a plot just to widen a political point outside the movie. then it starts to ruin the movie.
EG throwing a random character into the scene. no story-arc essential need. no indepth entertainment value. just there to fill the gap in the 5-4 diversity criteria (5 main cultures 4 main sexualities)

i know directors/producers can choose certain stars for movies because they are A-listers and just having them onboard raises the movies profile. EG vin diesel, tom cruise, will smith as the main stars of most movies in the last decade.

but atleast concentrate on the story line and not pander to political/economic puppet strings

id rather have a no-body actor who really fits the roll. than a certain somebody thats there just to pander to PC culture

I don't like MOVIE/TV that tries to correct my opinion towards politics, even I feel good about some criticizes or plays jokes on it. Why should we be taught? It's no use correcting by TV, it depends on our eyes in the real world

I have always wondered about this too, it makes the whole film look so fake - that just to be, as you say - politically correct - you have to make a scene and bring about a group - here in the Marvel, for the sake of extra women power ... (surely it made some of the women in my life very happy to see that scene) - but it wasn't required. The whole endgame war was chaos and there is no way a group of women can come together and make that scene. It was totally unnatural.

There's so many other films that does this on a regular basis, think about the actors that does not gets the job because they want a specific color or body type ... but I had always thought that I was the only one to think in this way ...

Hollywood was just great when it did movies during Soviet Union, and just at the begining of the war on terror... since then... and specially with the arrival of obama, it is a waste of time and a pain to watch.

What happened to all the buddies of the Weinstein system and those who like him did the same or way worst? one lamb down and all the other cleanse?

Serious death penality should be fall those filth. I hate them, a lot and deeply. from rape, to earlier the forced invasion of western countries, or the co2 shit, and latest - their vaxx drive...

For example how many rape accusation against the austrian? Arnold Schwarzenegger? I hope he will be executed, and his throat slitt, wiith the corpses of all his children below,,, to teach those bastards, to fuck off and die.

I hate them... fully.

that's called "war propaganda"... I created an artwork on this topic... "Merica".

https://makersplace.com/ferrisbullish/merica-1-of-1-27546/


The world is a lot bigger and diverse than a bunch of old fat white guys sitting in front of computers or tv screens eating pizza...
and complaining about the screens cause they're their only windows to the outside world... damn! >:( reality! can't deal with that ;D

So sad... Get over it guys.

This Topic is also a bit older, but the same problem in movies and series are stil there... so i'm very happy to see that the new James Bond ain't a black actor or a woman etc just the same as we all know.

But lately a lot of movies and series keep being destroyed by this problem imo.

You know. There is a chance this trend of politics being so much involved with Television series, video games and entertainment in general to be a passing thing. Lately, there have been several works of entertainment which have tried to push political ideas or fake inclusion down the throat of consumers and the consequences have been a underperforming commercial behavior of those entertainment products in the market. Take for example the Spiderman games in the PlayStation, the game Suicide Squad "Kill the justice league" and the last of us part II, all of them are videogames which includes political stuff in their narrative and as a consequence, their respective studios did not get as much money as they expected or needed.
It does not matter how much those studios or lobbies want to include that sort of content within games, all of them need money to keep going and if the public does not respond positively to them, all their efforts will be fruitless.
Money in king within the capitalist entertainment industry, so if the money is not in the side of those narratives, it will be matter of time for those to change, the alternative is going bankrupt.