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Today Tyson Fury tweeted (https://twitter.com/Tyson_Fury/status/1350164652911710211?s=20) out a statement confirming that Anthony Joshua will be his next opponent. "Coming soon somewhere near you. 2021"

The tweet was accompanied by this photo:

https://i.imgur.com/VBuKfV8.png

Recent statements by promoters Bob Arum and Eddie Hearn indicate that the fight for the undisputed heavyweight championship will take place at a location in the Middle East.

There is already several casinos taking bets on the fight with Tyson Fury being the favorite according to the odds tracking site Pro Boxing Odds (https://www.proboxingodds.com/events/2021-05-29-1344).

Although the fight is close to happening, still there's no confirmation of when it will be.

According to the news stated by Bob Arum, the fight could be as late as June because it would give more time to solve the coronavirus problem. For him, by June, most people will be vaccinated. I will assume they will open to the audiences as no need to wait for the vaccine if they will fight with no audience.

I like to see the Fury vs Wilder 3 first to end finally end their chapter but it seems it's now far from happening.

The tweet created a good hype as big boss promotes them for overwhelming praises, and no wonder Tyson Fury isn't underdog this time. Many people would bet for him and I think if given a chance for luck, he'd able to win against Anthony Joshua. However, if the situation won't go over him many bets would stumble and loss unfortunately when hype doesn't coincide to reality of the fight.

Finally the battle everyone is looking forward for a very long time. Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua is the fight we wanted to see rather than Wilder rematch and i am glad they are able to move away from that fight and put on exciting fights which is really good for boxing.

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They did not announce the location yet, most probably they will be fighting in Saudi Arabia or somewhere in the middle east as both these fighters will be earning a huge amount.

Why is this happening and not the Fury vs Wilder trilogy?

Because Fury says that he doesn't want to fight Wilder anymore. So regardless of what the arbitration will be, according to Arum, Tyson are no longer interested on the trilogy because of Wilder accusing of cheating in their last fight. Fury said that it is not just an attack on him, but to all Gypsy.

So this bout is bound to happen and there are rematch clause perhaps. And this is going to be huge for British boxing fans. I'll favour Fury though, Joshua is good but he hasn't face a fighter with Fury's talent.

Or in the Wembley Stadium if boxing fans are going to be permitted later. Make sense because this is a domestic fight. Yeah, we don't need the Wilder trilogy, there's so much drama specially Wilder's antics after the fight.

Just imagine though is there are no corona virus, they could sell and jam pack Wembley for all the marbles. But as far as the initial betting favorite, no doubt that it will be Tyson Fury, but it's going to be close.

Allegedly, it's going to be a two fight deal and it is more likely that the rematch will be in the UK.

It's good if it is a 2 fight deal and possible a trilogy might happen as well. Regardless of the location though, this is two great Heavyweight boxers and I would say still in their prime specially Joshua. But Fury is on a different level of his own right now.

He can back all the smack talks and I would say the heavier puncher of the two. Joshua is more of like a volume puncher to me, if Fury can handle Joshua's power and his chin hold up, then it could be a UD for Fury.

I can wait for this fight to happen and am placing my bet straight away, Anthony Joshua all the way. He has broken records in the past and he will repeat the same thing this time again.

Good bet, I'm sure he will be the slight underdog in this fight. So it's going to be very attractive for those gamblers who love on betting on a live underdog. Every boxing fans should be excited, we have been waiting for a good heavyweight match since Fury destroys Wilder. And since this is a domestic fight, pride is on the line here. So I'm expecting a lot of trash talking between the two leading to the fight night.

Despite his winnings; we shouldn't forget that Tyson Fury defeated Deontay Wilder of WBC last year and anything can still happen to Anthony Joshua in this fight, this fight is all-British heavyweight with good pay but will bet on Tyson Fury to win this game against Anthony Joshua becasue of his recent reputation (record).

This fight is a defining moment for both fighters, whoever wins in this match will become the undisputed and lineal champion of our present generation, undefeated lineal and undisputed champion these are the titles that the winner is going to hold, so much is at stake on this fight, I'm sure both fighters will heavily prepare for this fight, this is the most important fight of their lives.

Yes, lineal belt goes as far back as Muhammad Ali: https://boxing.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_lineal_boxing_world_champions#Heavyweight

So it recent it's already Tyson Fury, and he wins this fight, he will then become the undisputed champion in recent memories. All British showdown as well, so whoever wins will also become the best British boxer right now and there could be more sponsorship coming along the way (more money as well).

Tyson Fury is such a unique fighter.  I believe he's got one of the quickest reaction times when dodging a punch of any fighter ever measured, but he doesn't look like he'd stand a chance against most of his opponents.  I'm always counting him out and he always rises to the challenge.  It would be hard to place a bet against the guy.

The biggest fight of the year if this will happen.

Bob Arum is smart, he knows he can make money with a crowd so he will bring this fight in a place where people can watch so they can reach their target.
I hope the odds will be available soon, I really love this fight, I always wish that it will happen soon.

Just FYI, I'm betting on Tyson Fury here, I love his style and I believe he can KO Joshua.

Great news!

We will now wait for the official announcement on the date and the venue (though stated in middle east).
Time to see who is the greatest boxer in the heavyweight division, me, I'm rooting with Tyson Fury here.

Time to make a poll OP>  ;D

Is there any announcement of the date when this fight is going to take place ? Also let me know which site is offering betting for this match. I checked few sports betting site but could not find this match to bet on.  I think on paper Tyson Fury will be the favorite but in reality Joshua has better chances to win this historic fight.

This is going to be a very huge match. I can't wait to see this fight going to take place. If this will be ironed out soon and will be agreed to really push through within the year, this is definitely the most anticipated fight of the year.

But I am still in the thinking that Fury will remain undefeated after this battle. I will put a bet on the Gypsy King. I am hoping that the betting odds on crypto betting sites will be nice as Joshua is really a talented boxer who will definitely give Fury a hard battle.

Fury and Wilder trilogy would be no more for sure since this fight had already been arranged which i do saw that the management of both parties do sees that this is much more profitable or making more revenue
than on that wilder and fury trilogy. Fury agreed to this fight for sure yet he wont really be needing to prove out something between Wilder and now that Joshua is on next in the line.
This is more interesting that with that trilogy.

Fury is on heavily favorite? No doubt on that and in terms of fighting then i can say that Joshua will really give some good fight but wont really be enough on taking down that Gypsy king.

This fight would happen in June? They will surely find off the best time on where crowd would be present because that will generate more revenue than on having this common set-up
of the new normal.

It's hard to analyze great fighters like Fury and Joshua against each other, they are two fighters who can beat other with their own style of fighting, the fight could go either way but so much depends on preparation and mindset, Joshua already suffered a big loss to his career and he knows already what to avoid and Fury always ready on any fight if he is in great condition.

If Tyson Fury is serious in this one facing Joshua ? damn that's one Big Dream Fight to win for His entire career.

But this will test Him , will test his Lifetime career and will decide His History in Boxing, if he Won this one , No wonder the popularity of Tysons Name will be marked all over the Boxing Books , and may bring him to be Legendary lol.

Goodluck to Him but i will bet for Anthony this time as i don't wanna risk big .

Well, I know less of Tyson Fury, but I am a fan of Anthony Joshua because of certain features he has that make me to always bet him against other boxers. First and foremost, he has the potential to win this match, you know Anthony Joshua could confront existing or former champions and defeat them. The second reason why AJ is predicted to win is due to his courage and optimism, he believes he can win, and he always end up winning.

With his size and height Tyson Fury is much faster and can dodge a punch with ease and it was clearly evident with all of his fights especially against Wilder as he was looking for a punch and he was able to land just a few punches in the entire fight. Tyson Fury is always underrated and he always comes out on top and even in the fight against Wladimir Klitschko no one gave Tyson a chance to defeat him but he did what he predicted before the fight and the same with Wilder.

Glad that we will be able to watch Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua finally and i always expect Tyson Fury to win the fight.

I would love to see this Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua fight. Although AJ is not wild he is in good shape he has improved a lot, he has fought against the best of all styles. So Fury and Joshua will give us a great fight this will be incredible. It is logical to see the ads now to warm up expectations in the passionate world of boxing.
I love Tyson Fury for being an extraordinary athlete with an outstanding career, he always has God in every step he takes and it is a message that we must adopt in every step we take.

Holy smokes I am so hyped for this fight!

I watched a Youtube video when Anthony Joshua mentioned that he's ready to face him. But to be honest, as much as talented both these fighters are, I am betting all of my money to the Gypsy king (aka Tyson Fury). His unique play style, technique, reflexes, and knowledge puts him above Joshua. Although I do respect the power of Joshua, Tyson will put this fight in the bag.

Nevertheless, I am so hyped to watch this fight and I would surely be absent just to witness this two overlords fight!

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the winner of this fight will hold all the heavyweight belt, and it will be first time in history that one person holds everything.

This is the fight everybody wants to see but they really should wait until fans are allowed back into stadiums until a fight of this magnitude goes ahead. It would be a shame if a fight like this was witnessed by nobody live.

The vaccine is already rolling out, I'm sure that they will allow a live audience to watch this mega-fight, promoters of course want to see ticket sales, a fight of this magnitude needs to exhaust all the revenues it can get from the promoter's views, the promoters will likely schedule it when at least 50% of the people where it will be held are already vaccinated so they can maximize the sitting capacity.

There has been other undisputed heavyweight champions before but that was before there was 4 major belts in each division.

But after this fight the fighter who will win will become the holders of all the boxing organization belt and the lineal champion, right now the lineal champion for me is Tyson Fury so the Lineal title is up for grabs here and will earn a big legacy in the boxing world, the heavyweight attraction is now back, it used to be boring now after Tyson and Lewis retirement.

They would surely do this when the vaccine is already available because they cant really monetize it if we would stick out on new normal protocol.
With a big fight like this then it wont be surprising that they would be preferring on letting it happen into those days where there's crowd.
Ticket sales on stadiums are more worth than on PPV one. Hype would really be build up into this upcoming fight yet we know
on how great these fighter are.

Right, well we can include Klitschko brothers holding all the major belts in the heavyweight division at one time and call them undisputed because obviously they aren't going to fight each other.

Yes, a lot of hype around this fight, whoever wins will become held all the belt, and the sure winner here is the British fans. Gypsy king all the way, Joshua's getting knock out again here, worst than Andy Ruiz I.

The last few years is the best years for boxing fans as we are seeing good match ups after more than a decade of padded match ups just for the sake of fighting and now the big three in boxing heavyweight is definitely Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua and Wilder and Tyson has already defeated Wilder and if he could defeat Anthony Joshua then he will be the uncrowned king of this generation and that is the major attraction and i expect Tyson to do that.

Let's wait for the confirmation because McGregor also tweeted that he is fighting Manny Pacquiao in the Middle East which we know didn't happen at all. If there will be an announcement for these big guys to step in the ring, then this will be the fight of the year for the heavyweight bout. It's time for Tyson Fury to face this kind of opponent where he is excited to show his skills in their weight class. It's good to see him having negotiations with Anthony Joshua's team, we will see if this is true in the upcoming days.

who to be a winner will be real-world heavyweight boxing because Joshua has WBA, IBF, IBO, and WBO, at the same time Fury has a WBC belt. but Joshua still had WBO mandatory fight with Oleksandr Usyk, I think Joshua must solving that first and at the same time, Fury has a rematch with Deontay Wilder where he should finish it either. When they solved all of them, a winner will be a real heavyweight champion I think.

Hoping they close the date of this anticipated match of the beginning of the year, too many are really hyped and waiting.

This one too but I think it will be the 2nd quarter of this year, still unknown if they will fight yet but what I'm excited about was that statement of Ryan Garcia having a piece of Manny to fight him. A bold Ryan Garcia challenging PacMan.

This fight is beyond the rumor stage. Both promoters already confirmed it is happening.

Is Wilder commenting on this fight? Lol, does he still holds any argument that the arbiter might favor him so the third fight with Fury is still on? Anyhow, if it is a done deal verbally then it's true that Fury has move on regardless of the result of the mediation. As far as the venue, Saudi Arabia is a good place to start and then rematch in UK for the money.

Does Wilder have the commentating skills, if his alter ego comes out he will be talking gibberish  :D . Why do you think that these rematch clause will be verbal, that is not how the promoters run business and it is a fact that Wilder exercised the rematch clause within the time limit but the pandemic has delayed things and they will not continue with the fight until they allow audience in the arena and Fury will have another clause that allows him to fight anyone after a time period.

Forget about Wilder, that guy is a loser, he likes to fight in the court rather than in the ring. If he wants to get back, he should stop talking, instead he start training and let this two biggies fight in the right, who knows, the winner or loser of this fight would give him a chance to fight them.

He must wait for his time, Fury beat him almost twice already, maybe we will see a AJ vs Wilder if Fury wins this fight, and that will be exciting to watch too, Loser vs Loser and I'm going for Wilder if that would happen.

Considering the experience, Tyson Fury has an advantage and having not tasting a single defeat seems to be evident of his performance, height advantage could mean that Fury also has a better reach than Joshua which is detrimental when the phase in the fight where they wear each other out through jabs. Weight on the other hand seems to favor Joshua in this case because I feel like having a lower weight means that you can move faster. Their style is the same so there isn't much comment about that one.

Well this is what I saw, Deontay Wilder in line for chunk of $10M Fury vs. Joshua payout package (https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/01/18/deontay-wilder-fury-aj-payout-chunk/), so he still can earn money if Fury bypass him regardless of the arbitration.

And he losses it when he went on verbal tirade on his social media against Fury (not the wise thing to do). So his name is no longer in the discussion, Joshua now has a crack on Fury. And if Joshua wins then probably he can get his chance because a Joshua vs Wilder has been brewing for years as well.

^^ He can probably get a mil or 2 because of the sanctioning bodies, but yeah, Wilder is very quiet, maybe he is just waiting for the mediation before coming out to the public and claim that Fury avoided him and instead chooses an easy route against Joshua, LOL.

He no longer holds any bargaining power, he lost to Fury already. He needs to fight not name Joshua and Fury to insert himself in the discussion again.

Potential month is May and this fight could happen in one of this countries China, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Dubai, Singapore, Australia or somewhere in Eastern Europe but my guess is something like Abu Dhabi is doing for UFC and both fighters should receive around $100 million each!

Probably biggest boxing fight in a long time and I am hoping Joshua will not ask and complicate so much like he usually does.

He is crazy to ask for more it's already a record if he ask for more that could only mean that he doesn't want this fight and that's his only excuse why he will not fight Tyson Fury, boxers are like that they do not want to fight certain fighters because of the prize, they want a big slice against their opponent like Spence who wants it 60-40 against Crawford.

I think $100 million is already the biggest paycheck for both fighters, they can't complain on that or messed up with this potential fight, otherwise, they'll lose a once in a lifetime opportunity to earn this huge.

By the way, do you have credible source on this info?

I just think the $100 is too big considering we are still facing the pandemic now.

Although Tyson have a much higher odds than Anthony Joshua, I will still bet on AJ as I watched his highlights.

He really dominated his opponents inside the ring and he show no mercy in his opponents.

I know that you will say that betting on Tyson is an easy money but the thrill is that the underdog can give you much larger winnings and can fight from behind.

Thanks, so he is still making money despite not making himself involved in the fight. I think his name is still in the discussion, the 3 of them really needs to face each other. But so far Fury is still the best, despite just holding one belt against Joshua's multiple belts. But this fight will settle who is the best and then we hope to see AJ vs Wilder in the future.

We are not sure yet of the betting odds, unless listed in betting sites, that's the only time we can conclude.
For now, there are articles telling that Tyson Fury will be the favorites, but I believe even if he is the favorites, it's still a slight favorite only.

I would never say that as AJ is also a champion, as what I've said, Tyson Fury will only be a slight favorite.

Fury is better for me because he has fought popular boxers and beat them. Fury had fought Wilder twice, and Wilder was the best heavyweight prior that fight but Fury proven that he is the best, so it's normal that people would think Fury is the better fighter as he is undefeated and have beat champions in his career.

AJ is 24-1, with 22 KO wins, but he lost once, that's the big difference, if he can beat Fury, then people will declare him as the best, but let's see as surely this is going to be a great fight where both fighters have their own fan base.

Not only that, Fury come back from his personal demons, fought Wilder in the first (which most of boxing fans see him winning), then won the second fight impressively. While Joshua was defending his belt and unexpectedly lost to Ruiz Jr bad, although he redeem himself.

So mentally and physically I would say that Fury has the edge, after all that he gone through and the caliber of opponents he'd face.

Anthony Joshua have some good highlight reel and you need to look at the opponents he faced, when he faced Wladimir Klitschko he was coming after a loss to Tyson Fury when all the experts considered  Tyson Fury as a heavy underdog but he dominated the fight and that is the case with Deontay Wilder fight and that too when Tyson Fury was returning after a long gap and undergoing depression and ballooning up to 400 pounds and substance abuse and we clearly know who dominated the fight and in the rematch Tyson Fury smoked Deontay Wilder with ease.


Skill wise Tyson Fury is the superior fighter and so is the odds favoring him and if you like the underdog it is your choice. One aspect i known about Tyson Fury is that he always rises during big fights and that is what i expect in this fight.

Personally I am fine if things keep going up in the current direction, it is better to give more time to Wilder to prepare himself and improve his technique if he wants to fight Fury again, because as we have seen despite the incredible punching power that he has it was completely ineffective and he will need more than that if he wants to regain his title, besides we have waited a very long time for a reunification fight and it is about time that it happened.

That experienced facing big names in his career, Fury got the pride to continue chasing the win. It will be a test for both fighters as they are trying to prove something here for their respective careers.

Adding more popularity and another step up to whoever win this fight, I would say that I also backing Fury from here, beating Wilder when this man still the top heavyweight fighter. Such experienced really gives him the credit gaining more fans to follow him and support him now.

I believe what Iron Mike Tyson said about Tyson Fury to be true: "He is the best heavyweight champion of the world since myself. He is the man, I don’t care what anybody says." If Iron Mike says that who am I to say the opposite? He is going to win the match against AJ.

I find it out that a sport booker (betnomi) have already set an odds for the Joshua and Fury fight which was set as May 29th but I'm curious how they come up with the date of the fight which paper was not sign and the exact venue of the fight was not selected.
Having said that, the odds were in favor of Fury but I choose Joshua as the winning of the fight and I think that's what Latviand is trying to say.

Wow, this is really a big fight because odds are already available this early. I'm not expecting that Fury would be favored this high, this is telling us that AJ's performance in his recent fights are not so impressive, well, it's easy to understand that but this is a chance for the AJ's backers to take that very attractive moneyline betting odds.

Anthony Joshua by Decision, this one is at 7.50, seems really attractive IMO. Your thoughts?

the performance inside the ring will talk whats in it for them.whatever they claim, it will be proven in the actual match. interested on how they will fight toe-to-toe. are they going to show us a good fight? from bookies, they are favouring tyson, so they are seeing that he will more then likely dominate the match. lets see...

By looking at their record, you can already tell that Fury will be the favorite to win this fight. The good thing is, as a Fury fan, I can still get 1.52 or 52% win of my bet if I put my money on Tyson to win, this is already a great odds, and Tyson Fury to KO AJ is @3, this should not be missed too.

I think OP should put the betting odds since it's already available.

I'll put my bet on Tyson Fury as well. He is a big man at this fight, without losses, actually, the bettors will simply think that he gonna wins.

I'm seeing some of Tyson's fight, a little bit more aggressive than Joshua. But this will not give assurance about winning but somehow, this is the reason why he got that impressive record. I don't feel about breaking the chain but to remain undefeated.

Fury is not afraid to lose, he take on a good fighter specifically Wilder and he proved to be the best fighter between the two, now he will face a champion also, and they will unify in this fight. People would believe that Fury will win and I also like to bet on that, not because AJ I follow what the majority are thinking but because I trust how Fury fights in the ring, he is very smart than we know.

That's why people admire him, AJ's last 2 fights compared to Fury's last 2 fights, you can tell why people is loving him to win this fight. If only AJ did not lose against Ortiz once, maybe people would believe that this is an even fight as both fighters will be undefeated.

However, they are the best fighters in their division now, one has to reign and fans believe it's gonna be the gypsy king.

Yes, that lose really tainted AJ's record, although he won that rematch and take all his belt back, Fury was very impressive and we might say that he really destroys Wilder in their rematch. So obviously, he will be the favourite, AJ's chin is going to be tested again and we all know that Fury being the big guy will have the advantage on the power category.

It will be a difficult fight for AJ because the Gypsy King is riding on the big momentum win against Wilder. But it will be a close fight, but Fury I will say will be 80/20 to win in my book.

This will be a real fight between two great boxers and I have to admit that even if there’s a lose record on AJ Stats, I can still say that he’s a great boxer and I know he will bounce back. On the other hand, Fury made a good fights always, and that’s why he kept his record clean, its really hard to tell who will win so I guess I should watch this match.

The odds look very much on Tyson Fury's side: they guy said he will smash AJ in less than three rounds. I think he will win the game but not in three rounds: AJ is a rock solid guy and will keep his stance on the ring.

Anthony Joshua never fought Ortiz it was Andy Ruiz and it was a fight the team management of Anthony Joshua handpicked thinking it was an easy fight and he clearly underestimated his boxing skills and paid the price, in fighting you cannot underestimate any fighter and it was a great learning point for Anthony Joshua.

The Gypsy king is the greatest boxer of this generation and he will prove that by defeating Anthony Joshua .

Tyson Fury was always an underdog in all of his big fights especially against Wladimir Klitschko and the first Deontay Wilder fight and he proved his worth and in the rematch the odds were almost similar if i remember correctly and this will be the first big fight where Tyson Fury will be the favorite in the eyes of the bookies. Styles makes fights and it will be a great fight and i am excited to see this fight finally coming to fruition.

Arent they too confident? I don't really see it appealing to have these big talks before the fight even though his capable but he shouldn't really be that too confident.

Saying 3 rounds knockdown is surely a big talk.Just like on what you had said is that I don't see for AJ to go down in just mere 3 rounds. For 9-12 then it might be possible.

but still Fury shouldn't really be that too careless and rushing up things because you wouldn't know on when lucky punch would land.

That is the case even i was talking about, styles makes fights and Tyson Fury have the boxing arsenal to combat Anthony Joshua, the fight he lost he was unable to adjust the game plan according to the adverse situation but Tyson Fury always have plan B and he always rise to the occasion.

Check out all the pre fight press conference Tyson Fury made and he always tells what he is planning to do inside the fight and he always does that inside the ring as well. In his recent fight when he said he will knockout Wilder no one believed and he just did that.

The knockout punches are not lucky punches, there is a setup for the punch to land and they are not swinging wildly to land the punch.

I was surprised when I first saw the odds and the bet made available already.
IMO, I think Anthony Joshua is underrated in the odds provided by the bookers may be because of his new fighting style ever since he learns from his loss to Ruiz or there's something more to it

In fact, this is nothing new - he is not a favorite and the skew of the odds is always in favor of the favorite. If you think that the bookmakers made a mistake in setting the odds, then it makes sense to bet on AJ. Personally, in my opinion, the bookmakers were not mistaken, the usual odds in the favorite-challenger pair.

Yes, there is no surprising from the odds makers, Anthony Joshua should be the underdog in this fight. They are basing the odds based on their last fight, so obviously, Fury coming from a big and impressive win against Wilder. While AJ was extended by Ruiz in their rematch, although he won it.

And if you read the comments of boxing fans and gamblers here, they favor Fury.

So, we know that these two guys will fight somewhere in the future but we do not know when, nonetheless they are fighting already via social media platforms. It reminds me when we were young kids and when we had arguments we were so bold to say to our opponent: "meet me outside in the next few days, I will smash you!"  ;D

There's no specific date yet, all we can read now is just predictions as to when and where the right will happen.

This article says it could be this May or June this year, well, at least we will not have to wait longer if indeed it will be realized between that period.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/821324/frank-warren-prediction-anthony-joshua-vs-tyson-fury-may-when-june-heavyweights/

This is a big fight, probably the biggest this year, so promoters will ensure a crowd is possible, and it's not likely to take place in the US.

I know there is no need to be surprised the odds was in favor of Fury but I was surprised the was already set with the fight date stated already while all the required paper is not signed, venue not choose etc. And the odds difference to be too much.
I do read the comments of boxing fans on here but not everyone favors Fury which I am among.

Haha. One thing I know for sure is that this will be the biggest fight of the year as Fury will  finally get a worthy opponent to compete against. As a fan of AJ who has always heard and watched Tyson usually has in store for his opponents makes me even more interested. I just can't wait till an official date for the fight is announced.

That's for sure, they would really be waiting up for the right time for the crowd would able to go into these places where the events been held yet promoters or management itself do know on how much
money they can make if they would really be waiting up for the right time that's why there still some definite schedule for this one.

People are already been hyped up with this upcoming fight rather than on that Fury and Wilder trilogy event.I would much prefer on seeing AJ and Fury to clash on.

We don't really need to see some prove out on that trilogy.We do need something new that will really be an interesting one.

Maybe I would say AJ has finally get a worthy opponent. Fury has fought Wilder in his last 2 fights and I think it's a worthy opponent since he was the champion, undefeated before he fought Fury and I believe during that time when Wilder was not beaten by Fury, he was rank as the number 1 in their division.

Lol, I remember this line when I was a kid and having some troubles with my classmate in school.

These two fighters are very interesting to watch, they had almost the same stat which means it is hard to predict who will win this match. Both are aggressive fighters and it seems they have a good fight. For now, let us wait when this match will happen and I know a lot of bookies I guess preparing as of now for this fight that places to bet.

Are they fighting in social media? AFAIK, it was Fury and Wilder who are fighting in social media while this one is going to be a done deal and will be the biggest fight this year. They have not fought yet, maybe the social media fight will start in the rematch or the trilogy as definitely the word "rematch" will be included in the contact considering how popular these two and promoters want to milk money in this fight.

Maybe they are still undecided in terms of venue and date, as they want to attract live audience as much as possible.
So maybe they are checking the community about this covid vaccine. Once this is rolled-out in greater scale, that's when they can ensure at least live audience will be present.
They are still cooking the details and of course, know about the pulse of the boxing community.
This will be another money-maker for them. So they need to be meticulous with the details here.

The announcement by Fury might be accurate, he announce it early so he can sell the fight. These two are guaranteed to receive big money as this is a big fight that everyone wants to see. Of course, the venue is pretty much considered here and Bob Arum would ensure to make revenue on the gate entrance and they'll find a good location for that.

If this fight will be a controversial fight, people will be more excited to see a rematch, another money making opportunity.  ;D

Will only happen if the fight will end in a DRAW or a split decision, but if it's a KO win then there's no need for a rematch, unless stated in the contract and the loser of the fight will request for a rematch, however, less attraction compared to the first fight.

Yeah, so true! I think we've all have had our fair share of glory when we were kids. During my childhood there were no phones, no internet, no distractions and every dispute or argument between us angry teenagers would have been solved with a nice fight. After that we were ready to become friends again, until the next one.  ;D

I'll consider myself betting on draw, it's likely possible since this is a first fight, promoters are sometimes corrupt, they want to make a controversy so they can again make huge money in the next fight, it's not new actually, the boxing sport is corrupt so we have to be more careful in putting our bet.


Good old days, the fight now is different, it's mostly done in social media, more on reputation or your emotion will be hurt than your physical.

It is possible that this fight will end with a draw but that possibility to me is quite far. I am looking at a KO win by either of the fighters, probably by Tyson Fury.

If you look at both fighters' statistics, you will probably also consider betting on a KO. Both have high knockout rates. Tyson Fury has 21 of his 30 wins by way of knockout. Anthony Joshua, on the other hand, has 22 knockouts from his 24 wins. Those are very high figures.

This is the biggest fight probably of these two fighters, the kind of respect here is different than fighter an unknown fighter. It could be a fight of the year and therefore they will be more careful, less aggressive maybe and if that will happen then draw is possible. It's hard to based on the KO rate because Wilder has a high KO, probably higher than these two fighters and yet the first fight between Fury turns out a draw.

Just for the record, Wilder was 40 wins, 39 from KO in the first fight.

KO is the best way to prove who won the fight. It is probably someone who will win this fight, not a draw.
They have a good history in Boxing, with high records of KO's made but I don't think this could be happening during their fight. I'll take Joshua as my favorite this time, I don't look into their experience(number of fights), I consider most on their winning history which is Joshua made such an impressive record.

I read that they agreed to a two-fight deal, even if there's a knock out they deserve to have a two-fight deal and there's a possibility of a trilogy if they have it one for each other, with two great fighters in the caliber of Joshua and Fury they need two fights so we'll know who really is the best fighter between the two, there's should be domination on these two fighters to declare who is the greatest and the best.

Placing a small bet on a draw is fine, if you look at the history of these controversial draws there is a common theme, all the fights taking place in the US ends up in a draw if it is a big fight and i do not remember any high profile fight going for a draw in England but anything is possible.

The first fight will determine who is the superior talent, the boxing promoters usually goes for multiple fights to reap the maximum benefit and usually the rematch will have a much bigger audience and it is good for the fans as we are waiting for these battles for a long time.

If that's what's written in the contract, then it should be followed. However, the 2nd fight would be exciting if there's no KO that will happen in this fight, what would happen is the fans will heavily favored a boxer who have already KO his opponent, just like the suppose to be betting odds of Wilder vs Fury where Fury was a heavy favorite.

I don't consider the location of the fight in betting on a draw, my point was solely focus on how this two will perform in the ring during the actual fight, and though Fury is the heavy favorite, it's still possible that no one will get KO and they will just exchanging punches until the 12 rounds.

Kids today are clearly nuts!
Imagine they organized a big fight in their chat in Rome! Only for having fun. The news is in Italian but you can have it translated easily.
https://roma.corriere.it/notizie/cronaca/20_dicembre_07/io-ne-ho-sbracati-trecaccia-registi-maxi-risse-pincio-fbe42f90-3808-11eb-8ee8-3626ca43a0a8.shtml
This is probably the meet-me-outside-fight 2.0 to link it to what Karartma1 wrote.

Since you are aware that both fighters have high records in terms of wins by way of knockout, why do you think that this fight will not be ending with a KO? Do you have a particular basis in saying so?

Also, how did you come up with a judgment that Joshua has made a more impressive record than Tyson Fury in terms of their winning history and not in terms of their number of fights?

I would just want to know.

Its better if he posted up on where he do able to read about that two-fight deal.Im sorry that I cant able to search it up for you to tell that theres already a deal like of this.

Well, I wont be surprised though if they do set this one out as long it can really generate revenue in both parties then that what matter most.When it comes to fight outcome

then it will really create some argumentations when it do end up in a draw and the one who do able to take his opponent down.This is quite common though
and I don't see for it not to reach out on Trilogy thing but who knows on what would be the outcome looks like.

Exactly, venue doesn't matter, still on the hands of the (corrupt) judges,  :). If this fight really turns out to be very difficult to see who is the winner, then it's possible that this could end up in the draw. And for sure a draw will have a good odds so good call by @stadus.

And thanks for bringing this up, maybe I will look at the Draw as well.

Tyson Fury showed his punching power against Wilder in his last fight but if you look at both their records, Tyson Fury is a pure boxer who does not put full power in his punches unless he is forced to do so but Anthony Joshua try to knock the opponent out, it depends on the fight plan Tyson Fury comes up with and i am picking Tyson.

You need to understand that Tyson Fury was not active for a long time because he was undergoing depression while Anthony Joshua was building his reputation and career when Fury stopped boxing and hence new fans might think that Joshua have an impressive record ;).

This is the thing those that are great can recognize greatness as well and it is obvious the best heavyweight of the past decade is Fury, if it was not because of his struggles outside the ring he would have been even more dominant which is in fact a story similar to what happened to Mike, if it was not because of all of his problems outside the ring he would have lasted at the top way longer, the difference is that Fury was able to make a comeback while Mike was never the same after his personal problems.

When Tyson Fury vacated his belt when he was at the top of the world surprised many and during that period Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder started gaining momentum and became super stars in his absence and Deontay Wilder never thought in his wildest dreams that Tyson Fury to return after a long gap even after going through these troubles and be competitive and now he cannot accept his defeat and the fight against Anthony Joshua will determine his worth as the best heavyweight post 2000.

Does it really need to be proven out? Its really clear and known on who has really the advantage.Wilder is good and even Joshua where these fights
did really get significant recognition into this sport and into this career but no one can just easily neglect out on how Fury do really able to
built up his reputation and popularity through his own fighting style and capabilities. Its clear that he would be the favorite on next fight which
it is not a surprising thing and about the probabilities of winning is high but AJ will really be giving some good fight.

I like the comparison since Iron Mike recognize Fury he can see the level of this man and how he really dominates his era,  and like what you said both have similar issues outside the ring.


The good thing with Fury he was able to come back and still have the same level of recognitions while Iron Mike wasn't, he was completely forgotten as he behave unnaturally. It would be a great fight between this two heavyweights proving and adding more recognitions while they are still active fighting.

It should happen, boxing fans are the reason why they are popular now, and therefore they should give this big fight.

Time to love the heavyweights than the lower division of boxing as they really have some bulls to risk their undefeated record and fighting the best in the business. Though AJ has one loss but people does not really think it's a real loss against a great fighter, people though AJ was just too complacent during the fight and he was able to regain redeemed himself, so still now one of the best boxer in his generation. 

Two great fighter fighting is such a great treat for the fans, promoter can make big money in this fight because fans are satisfied, now, I can say that's the real definition of entertainment.

I checked the odds, and Fury is at -185, while Joshua is having odds of +150. Given the odds, I am being tempted to make a bet in favor of Anthony Joshua. Despite all the hype surrounding Tyson Fury, I don't think that he is a much better fighter when compared to Joshua. Fury is being overhyped at the moment and inside the boxing ring things may turn out different for him.

IMO, both the boxers are having almost equal chances. I would go with Joshua, since his odds are better.

I don't know if I would call it being overhyped. He did beat one of the most feared punchers in dominant fashion. He has shown that from a technical aspect he is the most skilled heavyweight fighter. Joshua still appears to be trying to overcome that knockout loss that tarnished his image. He has changed his style and is more cautious now but fans still have their doubts about how he will hold up against someone on Fury's level.

We have our own opinion, betting odds are created by bookmakers based on people's opinion but it does not please everyone that's why some bettors bet on Fury while some would bet on Joshua. As a fan of Joshua, we call it overhype, but that's what it is, we get what we see, the real challenge is only when pulling the trigger to bet, so now, which side we are? Doesn't matter because there's always bettors on the other side.

Both defeated Klitschko, so we can expect this fight would be pretty even. I think betting on whoever gets the best multiplier can be a nice strategy. I rate Fury slightly better than AJ, but if Fury got -185, I'd rather go with AJ.

There is another comparison, John Fury the dad of Tyson Fury was a die hard fan of Mike Tyson and when Fury was born he gave the name Tyson to honor Mike Tyson and now Mike Tyson adores his skills and they have a level of mutual respect towards each other and he always supports Tyson Fury in all of his fights.
 

There is a major difference in both of those fights, when Tyson Fury faced Wladimir Klitschko was the heavyweight champion and dominating the heavyweight division and Anthony Joshua faced when Klitschko was returning after the defeat from Fury. So there is a major difference in both of those fights.

I maybe in favor to Tyson this fight if in case their match will likely to happen as he has an advantage in terms of talent,experience and record. Though Joshua can't be belittled also as he has a good record even if he has 1 loss, he is also a great fighter so I am pretty sure that this fight will be intense and it will be worth to watch.

If both fighter will be in good condition then I guess there is a big possibility that it will not last until the last round as there will be a KO for sure especially that both fighter has a punching power.

It is not always about the odds. Though, I do get your logic. Tyson Fury is undoubtedly as the best boxer the world has seen, Joshua is good but I think he still has a lot to learn. He already got defeated by Andy Ruiz and the rematch was a close call anyway. I think going for the biggest one left, Tyson is going to be challenge for him.

This duel between Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury will be the greatest fighter in the history of heavyweight boxing in England, which is both interesting to witness as well as to prove who the number one heavyweight boxer in the world is.
It looks like AJ is very ambitious and will challenge anyone who has the world title, he will challenge him including Fury.
and usually if the challenger is arrogant and the ambition to win the fight will be very easily defeated.
and this fight will be very interesting and intense and will generate a lot of money.

We do have our own inputs though and I do recognized on what he had mentioned about Fury is being overhyped but to say that he do really get that position basing off on  real skills and experience

it isn't really just for show yet he wont really get that popularity if he's not capable of. Anthony Joshua is indeed still needing lots of things to learn and this match will really
be a good example of that.

If odds are bit reasonable on Fury then why not bet on him? If not worth then simply skip out.

At least both fighters are interesting to watch rather than put your money on Mayweather vs Logan Paul, right?  :P With Fury vs Joshua, we are watching real fight here.

You can't compare an exhibition fight on a real fight, this fight will make a history in boxing, the Mayweather vs Logan Paul is just an entertainment to take money from people, it will be forgotten but this one is now, especially if it's going to be a trilogy.

That's an interesting fact, for sure Fury is very honored knowing that his dad's idol is now adoring him, the inspiration to become the
greatest fighter of all time will push Fury to achieved.

Iron Mike was able to established his name during his time and now Fury is also concreting his way being  known as the best fighter of
all time, another test for his greatness and another show for his supporters and fans, another best fight to watch out as both fighters
have the power punch to take down their opponents.

Of course this is the real deal of a fight, I will still consider Joshua a great fighter, he avenge his defeat against Ruiz, so you can call his record still undefeated. Mayweather vs Logan is a joke, or whatever exhibition boxing match is. They can't really be compare to any boxing fight for that matter.

Besides the Fury vs Wilder, this is the most anticipated fight of the year, a lot at stake, specially being crown as the best British boxer of this generation.

The fight between Logan Paul and Mayweather is obviously a fight with business on their respective minds as they know that they will earn big bucks. On the other hand, the fight between Tyson and Joshua will arguably go down as one of the most anticipated fights in heavyweight boxing history.

As what I previously mentioned, the raw skill and talent that Tyson has is unparalleled at the moment. Don't get me wrong, Anthony Joshua is a tremendous fighter but I have to go all in to the Gypsy King on this one. Just watching him evade and get those points is just pure art.

Perhaps Fury, unlike Mayweather, is not so popular, it still did not prevent his managers from knocking out a hundred millionth contract ... besides, this fight will be more hardcore, which cannot but rejoice, (and, in theory, the winner of this battle will meet with the Ru Leo). BTW, about the expected battles... I recently learned that retirees Holyfield and Tyson are negotiating a third fight with a prize fund of 200 million. It looks like this is a year of show fights, boxer vs youtuber, Tyson's dull fight with Roy Jones and now the battle of retirees, the world of boxing is going to hell ...

Another fun fact is that Tyson Fury was born premature and was just weighing around a pound when he was born and the doctors said it is hard for him to survive but he overcame and he became the world champion and then went down with depression and suicidal thoughts and he even attempted to slam his car and end his life during his darkest days but to come back and then perform in a world stage and defeat another champion and become the champion once again is incredible, his life story is like a movie.

The main aspect of Tyson Fury's game plan is that he adapts to the fighter and he is willing to change is style according to the opponent and he can turn his game plan if something is not working during the fight and that makes him a great champion. I like Anthony Joshua but one time he found resistance during the fight he was not able to overcome that and change his game plan during the fight and that is his weakness.

As a Russian proverb says, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. People who have survived difficult situations in life have very high capabilities in terms of motivation and stamina. Tyson Fury is just like that, his willpower is higher than most of his opponents in the ring.

The motivation of Tyson Fury is incredible, all of his big fights where he was written off by the experts and going to the opponents home ground to face them and then dominating them is a skill in itself. When he faced Wladimir Klitschko no one gave him a chance to beat Wladimir Klitschko but he defied the odds and won and that was the case in the Deontay Wilder fight.

That's why he is the favorite in this fight because he has earned the respect from the fans, he was fighting good fighters in a big fight, and he won every time, even on the Wilder fight (first one) which ended up a draw, people thought that he was robbed but he finally proven he is the better fighter in a rematch.

You can always bet on him since he has not loss a single fight and he has some big fights in his career so that makes him so popular now. People have stopped talking about Wilder because he stopped the popularity of Wilder, I'm afraid he would do the same thing with Joshua.

Probably he is already prepared as well on what to sing after the fight.  :)

Anyone check this record here (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/479205), it's very impressive.

I am not sure that a long win-win streak is necessarily a guarantee of future victory, on the contrary, the well-known probability theory states other things ;) Each series ends in most cases, and the longer the series, the more likely it is to be interrupted. Information has leaked out that each boxer will receive 100 million pounds after the end of the fight, so it is in the interests of both fighters that the fight takes place.

Huge amount that any boxer can't resist, I bet they have not receive that kind of paycheck in their past fights, so this will happen, maybe 90% chance. For Fury, all I can say is that he is a smart fighter, he knows how to beat his opponent and AJ should not be a problem.

Wait a minute, it looks like we all love Fury to win here, what about those AJ fans here, what can you say about this fight?

An undefeated record does not mean anything if he is not preparing well for the next fight and there is no guarantee that a fighter will win all the time, even the best fighters fall from grace all the time if it is not his best day. The best example is Andy Ruiz who defeated AJ and on the rematch, he was behind all the laurels he got and he was not even interested in training and he lost the second one comprehensively.

I do not see any dedicated Anthony Joshua fans here, a loss can make a lot of difference  :D.

Exactly, if we weigh things out, Wilder was even better than AJ because he loss against Fury while AJ loss against Ruiz which was not really a big threat in this division. But let's forget about that as we are about to know the best fighter and we would know once this fight will be realized.

I admire his motivation but not all his big fights took place at the opponent's home and he chooses to fight Wladimir Klitschko in Germany because Wladimir was the reign Champion for about 10 years and if Fury really wants to fight he must submit to his offer that's the reason why the fight happen in Germany. However, the same thing happens between him and Deontay Wilder

I think the answer is yes at least to me, I can clearly see there is a gap between Fury and Joshua but at the same time anything can happen in a fight, if Joshua is able to exploit some of the vulnerabilities of Fury then he could beat him, after all how many fights we have seen in which an unfavoured fighter beat the favourite because he was able to exploit his weaknesses, in fact we saw one when Joshua lost to Ruiz, Ruiz exploited the fact that Joshua seemed slow and could not get away from him to use his superior height and reach and that is how he beat him, then in the second fight Joshua became lighter and exploited the fact his opponent was slower than in the first fight to never allow him to get close.

The pressure on taking a big task was evident in his post fight actions in my view. I have seen his talks about depression after returning and he is really inspiring, he said in one of his interviews that he met Wladimir Klitschko when he started boxing in a sauna and he said he would take the belt from him in a few years time and he truly believed that was his destiny and so is the reason he chose to beat Wladimir Klitschko in his yard but after the big fight his motivation went away as he achieved what he set out.

Both fighters fought Wladimir Klitschko and they bought win, Anthony Joshua just had a better win as he won by TKO, so both fighters are really good, the only difference is the record which Anthony Joshua is not undefeated anymore.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/659461 against AJ
https://i.imgur.com/Apf8z5b.png

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/479205 against FURY
https://i.imgur.com/ujliRxA.png

He wasn't the first to do this, and he wasn't the last to do it. A real great fighter can and should be considered not the one who made a great victory only once, which could happen due to an accidental combination of circumstances, but the one who was able to repeat it and it is better if he did it many times. Therefore, many are called great after a resounding victory, but in history there are only a few who were able to repeatedly conquer the top.

This means that the odds are high on Fury, which means that a defeat from Joshua will be a big money for those who bet on him. I am on Fury's side though, I posted awhile back my analysis on their stats and Fury has the most advantages in this fight in this thread. We won't know until it happens, I just want to see an entertaining fight and I hope that this two can give it.

Throughout history a boxer is called the greatest when they dominated even when the majority thought they were the underdogs and they came out on top,  Muhammad Ali was a heavy underdog when he faced Sonny Liston and everyone thought Sonny Liston will kill Muhammad Ali as he was a ferocious puncher but he out performed and won the fight to everyone's surprise and his wars against Joe Frazier made him the greatest boxer and right now Tyson Fury has strong opponents and if he could dominate everyone he could be one of the greatest.

I was not convinced when he was facing Wladimir Klitschko and i actually made a bet on a decision victory for Wladimir Klitschko because Fury talked too much to my liking at that time and it like he is selling wolf tickets but when he did exactly what he is telling i was following him but sadly he retired and quit and now when he returned i was doubting how he could return after a long gap against Wilder but with the first fight i was convinced he is the best and could easily win the rematch. I am betting on Fury but its going to be a great fight which i was looking forward for a long time.

I think I will then support AJ here, lol.. The guy also is good but Fury is better than him IMO, however, for the sake for betting since AJ is an underdog, I think I'm gonna put a bet on him,.. I don't know if I will really pull the trigger but it's still too early though, I'll wait for the betting odds.

Wladimir Klitschko was already on the decline when they fought. But I agree that Joshua had a better win because we went life and death against Klitschko. Joshua went down, was in deep waters, but was able to get back and win that fight.

And as underdog against Fury, it's a good bet, as the stakes are high, maybe he would and rise to the occasion again.

Ok. Every outstanding boxer started with a dream, remember Muhammad Ali said he was the greatest starting by been dreaming to be and that's was the impression Fury had.
Having said that, I am aware of the depressions he faced through his marriage etc and I respect for getting back on his feet but I don't like the aspect a boxer saying he will defeat his opponent when he was the asme person that posted "Never unestimate the underdog" on his social media account.

I agree with you for a lot of professional boxing have done that before him and a lot more will do the same thing after him but if he's not able to repeat the great winning the boxing fans will consider him to be lucky during his previous great fight winning. Do you read what Wilder Deotany said about his last fight with Fury? Do you believe what he said cause I also think there's no way a single hit will gave that deep cut in the ear which make him dizzy.

True, lots of bettors will be attracted to the betting odds for Joshua because he can fight and he hasn't really loss against a fighter that he was dominated, his loss was only due to him being careless but in the past few fights he has matured already because he is careful and fighting with good timing.

Joshua can fight of course but so does Tyson. Whether Joshua's loss was complete domination by the opponent or not, he was defeated. And he was not just defeated. He was knocked out cold. Tyson on the other hand remains undefeated. He once had undefeated opponents and he prevailed against all of them in the end. This is going to be a very close match. But I will not think twice of going for Tyson with my money.

As the this site tells about the betting odds. https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/fury-joshua-odds-and-prediction


Are you willing to bet 185 usd to win 100 usd?

That's how favorite Fury is in this fight, though we still have to confirm once the odds is available in betting sites.

If the odd is really high for him which for sure the bookmaker will balance it out even Fury is really the heavy favorite here. It's your gambler's instinct that will push you to place your bet in case you are really aiming for much decent winnings.


That might be good, it's really tempting especially if odds really brings the gamblers to bet for him, being an underdog not automatically means that he'll lose this fight, it will be decided after the last bell.

Off course, an underdog only has a less chance to win in the fight, that's according to the bookmakers, but they could also win.

This fight is a big proof that underdog could win.

TEOFIMO LOPEZ UD 12 VASILIY LOMACHENKO IS THE RING MAGAZINE UPSET OF THE YEAR (https://www.ringtv.com/615874-teofimo-lopez-ud-12-vasiliy-lomachenko-is-the-ring-magazine-upset-of-the-year/#:~:text=News-,Teofimo%20Lopez%20UD%2012%20Vasiliy%20Lomachenko%20is%20The%20Ring%20Magazine,highest%2Dlevel%20upset%20of%202020.)

 betting odds
 (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/vasiliy-lomachenko-vs-teofimo-lopez-odds-date-picks-predictions-from-expert-on-23-2-roll/#:~:text=William%20Hill%20sportsbooks%20peg%20Lomachenko,win%20%24350)%20as%20the%20underdog.)

The biggest advantage Anthony Joshua always had was that he was able to attract huge crowds even if he was fighting a journeyman and the Ruiz upset was a wake up call and the good thing was that he accepted the defeat and worked hard, not like Wilder who is always trying to come up with excuses one after the other.

I have no doubt that this will be the biggest fight in history and if they allow audience they can fill a big stadium.

No doubt Teofimo Lopez win was the biggest upset but i saw that as a really close fight, the fight hangs on how you score the first 7 rounds but if the fight takes place in UK then we expect good judges to score these high profile fights.

This is really exciting two best heavyweight champions will class inside the ring and a very hard to predict one but if I could pick one that I think would be very effective inside the ring and can outsmart his opponent, and a known heavyweight that can move faster in the ring I think speed and agility and the cleverness inside the ring will surely win this fight,

And although there is a rumor about him it is not proven yet, I will go with Tyson Fury, No doubt a man of his caliber can take on Anthony Joshua just like what he did to Deontay Wilder.

It's a positive kind of hard work, Joshua has easily redeemed his name and if he make an excuse during the loss, he was right since he dominated Ruiz in the rematch, unlike Wilder of course that he never win a single fight against Fury but fans weigh the fight of Fury is bigger than AJ since Fury came as the underdog in the first fight while AJ was the favorites in both fights.

That's not a problem to me. That's still great odds knowing that the opponent is Anthony Joshua. -185 for Tyson does not mean he is the heavy favorite in this fight nor Anthony Joshua with +150 the heavy underdog. That Fury odds in decimal would be 1.54. Still worth betting for me. I have made bets on odds as low as 1.2 or perhaps even lower. The odds means this upcoming match is not a one-sided fight.

Of course because that's what it is, it's created by bookies so we just have to pick what we like.



1.54 is already considered as heavy favorites to me, I don't know how to really interpret this odds but individually we have our own interpretation. 1.54 by the way is converted into "64.9 %" Implied Probability, so it really says a good percentage of winning and that's obviously a heavy favorite.

In a way the loss of Joshua against Ruiz could be a net positive for him, he is no longer undefeated but he took lightly an opponent when in reality you cannot take anyone lightly the moment they set their feet on the ring, Ruiz had to be good to be given the chance and he did not took him seriously, but since the loss he has matured and improved his endurance and his mental toughness, and I really think he is going to need it as there is no doubt in my mind Fury is the best out of the two by a significant margin.

The idea of Anthony Joshua taking Ruiz lightly is a claim by media outlets as he was hand picked by the Joshua team and was a short time replacement fighter if i remember correctly and anyone fighting for the belt should understand that a punch could change the fight. Ruiz was known for his fast hands and it would be foolish to make a claim that he never knew that and an upset win derailed Ruiz as he never prepared and he was enjoying the unexpected fame and even that fight made it to the judges.

All we know is that Ruiz upset Joshua in the fight, he may not think it was an upset because fighters will always claim that they are the best but the betting odds says the reality, and Joshua was heavily favored to win in any sportsbook.

Ruiz may won the fight but it was just a short fame he enjoyed and despite of that fame, people still have doubt in him and they were right since during the rematch, AJ easily beat him and resulted to a unanimous decision win.

I was not convinced with the Andy Ruiz rematch win as there were documented reports about the lifestyle change of Ruiz after the instant fame and his career is almost over as far as i understand and that was evident from the rematch and he never fought after that but the fight against Kubrat Pulev  was great but he is getting old and he is not that fast, Fury will be the biggest test for AJ and it is the most anticipated fight in boxing.

I am certain that Tyson Fury made more fans when he returned after a long gap undergoing depression and ballooning up to 400 pounds and to make a come back and fight the champion in Wilder who everyone claimed to be the hardest puncher in history and i am sure Wilder choose Tyson Fury because no one retires from boxing and makes a successful come back after going through all these troubles and Wilder thought it would an easy fight and add Fury to his legacy, but that plan back fired big time and now Wilder is trying to convince others with all the excuses in the world and he might be cursing the decision to even fighting Fury. :D

Update on this fight.

2021 Fury vs Joshua update: Eddie Hearn says deal is close, then location will be decided (https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/2/5/22268101/fury-vs-joshua-update-eddie-hearn-says-deal-close-then-location-will-be-decided-boxing-news-)


More options the better, but if I would be the one to choose, I choose to have it happen outside the US, just for a change.

Middle East will be viable like Saudi Arabia, we have one successful heavyweight fight recently there, Joshua vs Ruiz. So it will be better if they could go back and replicated the success to the next level. Just have to take into consideration safety and health protocols. And then the second fight will be stage in UK for more money as obviously both are British and have a lot of local followings.

The Battle between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua will be a very good fight and I tried to research between the comparison of Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua and this is what I got:
Fury has stepped into the ring 31 times over his 12-year career since turning pro in 2008. Five years later, in 2013, AJ, who made his professional debut, contested only seven fewer fights.
Both boxers are linked to 21 knockouts in the professional ranks, but considering that AJ has fewer pro fights, his knockout record boosts Fury to 67.7 percent with an 87.5 percent KO rate.
The advantage is kept by JD's unified champion AJ in the early stages of the fight, while Fury seems to prefer a more drawn out fight and will look to take Joshua into the later rounds.
If the two camps can settle on a war while holding all the belts, the true winner would be the sport of boxing, destined to be the biggest fight in British boxing history.

It's up to the promoters, they will consider everything but for sure they will go with the venue that they can get big money. As per report, both are guaranteed $100 million each, so this is really a big fight that we should not miss, who knows it will be the one and only fight.

What's the difference with Judges in the US vs Judges in UK, I'm just curious because I always believe that big fights will always find judges with good reputation and it's just only us who are speculating there's a cheating happening if our fighter will loss.

Probably some judges in US are more corrupt than judges in UK, I'm just guessing, LMAO.

There's always cheating in any sports competition, but it's just usually based on our own speculation because I don't know if there are judges who are already guilty of cheating and got jailed, but if you are a fighter and you think that you'll that you have less chance of winning if it goes to scorecard, you should make sure you knockout your opponent, of if now, at least show that you are dominating the fight.

That is because we all love a comeback history about redemption, there was no doubt that he was the best heavyweight champion in the world but those problems outside the ring caught up to him and it seemed as if he will never recover from those problems but then he did and not only he became world champion again but he is still the best and right now there is only one person that can proclaim the opposite and that is Joshua and we are about to see who is right.

You said it right, most fans loves to see how former champs go back inside he ring ang fought with the current title holder, it's really excite those who awaits that fight and Fury didn't dissapoint them.

Now that he's going to another challenge to depend his belt, fans again will support him and see how he will make another victory
though the opponents is also a tough fighter which can also bring him down and snatch what he got from his belt, it will adds up
the entertaining part of this fight.

Tyson Fury is such a unique fighter.  Every time he goes into a fight I think he's going to lose badly, but he always wins.  I saw a sports science episode on him I'll never forget.  The guy's ability to react and dodge fights is super human.  Literally, his response time is far greater than most human beings to the point it has allowed him to become an elite fighter in spite of some major flaws.  Given his appearance, I think his gifts catch opponents off guard and allow him to take advantage of their underestimation of him.  I don't think his style is a secret, so you know fighters are training for it, but seeing it in person is another story they can't really train for which is why I think it catches them off guard even when they are expecting it.

To see how corrupt judges can be you can watch how Robin Reid was robbed of his victory against Sven Ottke, then you have Timothy Bradley fight when he clearly lost 10 rounds against Manny Pacquiao and yet he was the winner by split decision and there are several other matches.

The simple difference is UK has way less controversial decisions than US and Germany.

Everyone loves a comeback story and Tyson Fury just blown away every imagination on what a perfect come back story should be and other than that the only fighter i remember who came back after a decade of retirement was George Foreman but he turned to religion than drugs and yet was able to win the heavyweight belt in his older days.

Well, no doubt he is good, IMO, the best fighter in heavyweight division before was Deontay Wilder, he had KO wins in most of his fights, there's only one win with no KO which was against "Bermane Stiverne", but after that fight, it was all KO or TKO wins before he lose against Fury.

In the first fight when the fight ended a draw, Wilder knock out Fury and thought the fight was over, but Fury stand up and continue the fight as if nothing happen. The reason why Fury won is simple, he can talk the power of Wilder so he can be aggressive in the fight.

Look at the rematch, Wilder was surprised because Fury has become the aggressive and Wilder was not used to that in any fight since he was always the aggressor.

Deontay Wilder definitely wasn't the best fighter in the division at any point in his career, and not he's looking to hang onto his career. There was a contract setup for a trilogy fight, but it seems that Wilder might have pulled out of that. He came up with excuse after excuse after losing, and the way he threw his coach under the bus didn't sit right with me.

Its true, that hes got dynamite in his hands, but hes not a particularly good boxer. In fact, most of his fights hes actually being outboxed, and sometimes by men who are aging (Ortiz). However, it takes him one punch to turn the lights off, and that's what he continuously did. Although, he didn't particularly fight top fighters. He fought mostly journeymen, and aging once was fighters.

Wilder was exposed in the second fight. The man cannot fight off the back foot, and if you pressure him so much he can't line up for that perfect shot. In fact, you'll see his arms flapping around a lot in that fight, like he doesn't know how to deal with it. Hes used to getting outboxed, his opponent tiring, and then hoping that there's a gap for that perfect knockout.

Fury is the best, and has been for a long time in my book. He doesn't always look good though, but it really depends on who you put in front of him. I've seen him unmotivated to fight, and actually take a bit of a battering, and then I've seen the flipside where hes against a big name, and largely takes them apart. Even in the first fight against Wilder, I had him winning convincingly. He lost the round where he was knocked out of course, but what was brilliant was he got back up, and dominated the rest of the round from a nasty looking knockdown. Wilder was shook from there onwards.

And his previous trainer, Breland, says that Deontay was really untrainable and lazy in the gym and only relies on his power. That's why in his fights with Luis Ortiz he was really expose and Ortiz was hitting him with power punches, but then again he was save with his dynamite hands.

But it was different when he face Fury, as you have said, I also have Fury winning the first and the second was just the exclamation point. And now Wilder will have to deal with his demons as well and probably not going to watch the Fury-Joshua fight.

That's his name, Breland. I believe he's considered a well respected trainer, and was totally thrown under the bus by Wilder.

Wilder is a freak puncher. He's got that natural explosive power, and does have some technique to pull it off in the moment. However, hes not a talented boxer. I think I would be inclined to believe Breland in that he's lazy. There's nothing that tells me that Wilder is the type of boxer that spends hours on the gym working on his weaknesses, and instead just focuses on his strengths.

I personally don't think Wilder will be a big name again. The way hes reacted post fight has suggested he's just another name that's going to drift off into history. He took it the completely wrong way, and turned some of his own fans against him due to his petulant excuses. He needed to take it like a man, prepare, and get  back into the ring to prove that he's not so easily put away.

Considering his flawless record, his opponent should come out with something that would work to beat him up, or else Fury will demolish him like any other boxers he fought. I also thought that this man was close to retirement but when I say his age, he is not that old. He has some unique skills that his opponent doesn't have and also hard to punch as well. If they gonna fought in the middle east then this fight is pretty big and he should get also consider getting all of the unification heavyweight title after he wins this fight.

It's because that Fury is also good in the mental game, destroying his opponents even before the fight start with his trash talking, or more of like a psyche war. So fights can be won without throwing punch. Plus he has a winning attitude as well, he has the talent yes, but he brings it to the next level by training hard every fight regardless of who he is facing.

Unlike Wilder who simply doesn't want to train, according to his coach. And that's why we have fighters like Floyd and Wilder who is still undefeated because talent + attitude equals greatness.

I don't like the comparison though, honestly, I believe that Fury is even better, he does not run inside the ring unlike Mayweather.
Fury is willing to take bigger risk by engaging in the ring, even the most powerful puncher like Wilder, so I have respect to him than Mayweather.

He is facing all B-level fighters that's why he is winning and I would say that the Heavyweight division is not that deep as well. So when it's time to face Fury, which is the best Heavyweight prior to his self retirement due to personal issues, we have seen a different result.

Even in the first fight, Fury was the aggressor, that's why he was ahead on the judges scorecard. Unfortunately, he can hit in the 12th, but was able to get off the canvass and the decision was a draw. If not for the knock down, Fury could have won he first fight already. So it was the same result in the rematch and Fury proved that he is indeed the greatest Heavyweight in this era.

Wilder is a natural power puncher even though he is not having the technical skills and he is a counter puncher and even though he looses the rounds he would find a spot to land his heavy punch and Tyson Fury was the only fighter that negotiated his counter punching prowess and it is not that easy for Wilder to change his game plan late in his career.


The only fight Wilder can do is to build his confidence fighting some journey man and it is difficult for him to get big fights until Anthony Joshua wants to add his name in his resume and that could happen if Wilder could add some wins.

I am still skeptical if a fight between those two happen until the contracts are officially signed. Joshua has avoided dangerous fighters so far as beste as he could.
You must give Wilder credit that he fought fury. If the fight Joshua vs. Fury really happens i think that joshua only has a chance to win if he knocks fury out, because fury is so good at avoiding punches and dancing around that he will probably land more punches overall.

Fury moves a lot in the ring, good  in counter punching and he can take punches, that's how difficult to beat him, however, AJ here is also a champion, so he always have a chance. In the early betting lines, AJ knows that he is the underdog, I hope that will encourage  him to train harder as this is the biggest fight of his life as a boxer.

They're both compatible to fight with each other, so that their best opportunity to match soon as long as both camp will negotiate for the upcoming fight well. Chances on both teams would be great and preparations for fight might be tough and expectations would highly possible for hype, which everyone loved to hear then also betting relied on this scenario as people choose which of the two is worthy for their choice.

They have verbally agreed to fight, so even though the contract is not yet sign, but there are reports that in just a matter of days it will be officially announce.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/14005817/anthony-joshua-tyson-fury-contract-eddie-hearn/

I don't understand you saying that Joshua has avoided dangerous fighters in the past. He has fought a decent fighters including Wladimir Klitschko. Besides the Heavyweight division is not that deep.

It's true he fought klitschko, but i think he tought that klitschko wasn't that dangerous anymore because he already was 41 years old at that time and had no fight for 2 years and he almost got knocked out by klitschko.
Don't get me wrong, i think it's pretty smart to pick your opponents carefully to make "easy" money and stay champ. Joshua is still only 31 years old and can still fight for 10 years, so it would be stupid if he had picked the hardest opponents in the beginning of his career.

I'm comparing their records, both are undefeated, maybe I was no clear about that.

And as much as we hate Floyd Mayweather, he has the talent and the attitude to be great that when he retires he 49-0 or 50-0. That's why there is still a debate even here in the community about Floyd's road to greatness because he doesn't engage by play defense which he is good at. Not defending Floyd, but the comparison is base on their individual record and their approach towards the sports in terms of training and attitude.

Mayweather thought he was better than Muhammad Ali, can you believe that?

Floyd Mayweather Jr. Explains Why He's Better Than Muhammad Ali (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2436712-floyd-mayweather-jr-explains-why-hes-better-than-muhammad-ali)

That's why he does not get a respect from great boxers and some fans.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309797.160


I guess some fans which believe they are a follower of Fury don't do some background check on Joshua previous fight, I never for once sees him run from a fight and speaking of the Wladimir Klitschko, Wladimir predicted the fight in a USB flash if anyone watches the face-off and talking between them then.


@Jating, that's why we have fighters like Floyd and Wilder who is still undefeated because talent + attitude equals greatness.?
For the record, Wilder was defeated in his last fight against Fury.
@Yamifoud, Like you, said about the comparison. Fury has the height and body which cant be compared with Mayweather's physical appearance. However, each fighter has their own way of studying the opponent's move and fight.



??? ;D
He can't be serious about his proclaim because Muhammad Ali usually went for the tough opponents and came on top which is the reason why he said "I must be the greatest". Besides, he never fought for the sake of the money involved but for the love and the fans of the sport. Why would Mr Money matter the most (Mayweather) said he's better than Muhammad Ali?
Guys help out here.

I can't imagine if Mayweather's picture will be put during the introduction of big events in boxing.

We have Muhammad Ali's picture like this,

https://i.imgur.com/zK5WHj3.png

What do you think will be Floyd's picture?

I still can't forget this one, guy has no sportsmanship.

https://i.imgur.com/nSgwiLr.jpg

@hulla - I'm referring to Fury and not Wilder, that's why I said I compare Floyd and Fury for being undefeated because they are have the attitude and trains hard. But the comparison ended there because we all know that they have different styles and majority of us don't appreciate Floyd's run and gun tactic. We have boxers to engage toe to toe.

Definitely, but we can also trust him to win in any fight and as a bettor, we should bet on him to win, that's different when you are a fan and you are not gambling at all as you want a real fight where you see fighters are fully engaging against each other.



This is what people like and I believe this fight ( Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua), we will see that.

Speaking of Muhammad Ali picture putting out during the introduction of the big event in boxing. I believe the reason is that Ali was the greatest boxer in history, changed the boxing game and he's the first boxer to win the world heavyweight on 3 separate occasions but we might also see Mayweather picture also put out as Ali since he's was currently ranked number 1 greatest boxer of current. I guess this what makes him compare himself to Ali and like you said he lacks sportsmanship.

Fan sometimes as after their favorite fighter to winning but it all depends in each individual want and understanding about boxing because the fight is not always about toe to toe but the fight result in the end and as Jating said they "have different styles" and you expect Mayweather to change his style which makes lead to his loss to the opponent because the fan wants his to.

Mayweather is a self proclaimed greatest fighter and you cannot even compare him to Muhammad Ali  :D. He is a troll and i have read his statement on how he is greatest which is absurd but i respect Mayweather for his defensive skills as he rarely gets punched in the face throughout his career and that is a big deal but he is playing a character to attract more attention and he is successful in it.

He has to believe in himself or he would never step into the ring with the same confidence and energy to survive each hit.   Its not something that can be criticised as he needs that as part of his stance to do his job, he is fully confident in his moves and doesnt doubt or question himself in the moment so its not a mistake as such.   Will history judge him the same way is a different question.

What happens is that many of those that begin their careers in such a difficult sport begin as people that are very poor and then when they find themselves with so much success they do not know what to do with and they fall in all kind of temptations and the problem is that unlike other industries, like the music industry for example, they are athletes and they need their bodies to perform at the top level, and many times they end up destroying their bodies so there is no chance for a comeback story, it is rare for this to happen which should tell us how talented and out of the ordinary someone like Fury really is.

Not new to him, he will say anything that will create impact to social media or to any medium that will bring noise for his name. Just like you mentioned he's  a self proclaimed greatest fighter.

Though bringing his stats that can be rewarded to him, ending his career with all the title and without any defeats, if this man only humble more fans will praise him, but he's not and he made more money by doing that, things that he choose to manage his fortune and to create more for hin bank checks!

A real boxing fan would not agree with Mayweather self proclamation that he is the greatest boxer, maybe some would agree that he is better than Manny but not betting than Muhammad Ali. Boxing is suppose to be a warrior, not the kind of style he is showing as a boxer, just my personal thoughts only.

Personally I do not have a problem wit a defensive style, after all the purpose in any fight is to hit your adversary while not getting hit yourself, but I would not consider Mayweather to be even the best defensive boxer, also we must remember that even if there are those that are considered the best boxers pound-by-pound and there is merit to that metric at the end of the day the best boxer is the one that can defeat the others no matter what and it is obvious that the heavyweight champion is always the best as there is no way someone from the lower divisions can stand up to him, and if they do not agree with it they can always try their luck in the ring and see if they can hold up to him.

There is a reason Floyd Mayweather changed his persona from pretty boy Mayweather to money Mayweather as he was not making money and he was not able to create interest so that fans watch the match and to be frank he is brilliant in understanding how to make money by making some tweaks to his personality to create interest in the fights and that is his success story.

The pound for pound list can be determined by a boxers technical skills and his creativity and in fight decision making and come out victorious. By your example Wilder could be considered one of the best boxers in history as there were comparison between Mike Tyson before he faced Tyson Fury. Lower division fighters always show pure technical skills than heavyweights.

It's just so pity that although Mayweather is undefeated and was a number 1 pound for pound king, most people still does not believe that he has been the best in boxing and he is now of course. I guess he can't change the mind of the people as all he have is his undefeated record, in terms of entertainment, he obviously fail on that.

Mayweather is entertaining outside boxing and he is not showing his real character, he is a real hard worker who goes to the gym daily and teach his young students so does his entire family and they have a youtube channel if you are interested and i am sure you will be entertained  ;). In terms of boxing it is hard to avoid getting hit and throughout his career he hardly got punched in the face and that is a huge aspect and his defense is a beauty.

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Tyson Fury is furious about the Anthony Joshua silence in making the fight happen because of obvious reason as you are still in the era of pandemic as new strains are creating issues. Fury is claiming that he is planning to fight twice this year just to be active and that is a problem with all the fighters as the pandemic is messing with their careers as well.

The team management of Tyson Fury has to find opponents that he could compete and try to sell the PPV. The fight against Anthony Joshua is a spectacle and it is a once in a life time event to have this kind of big fights and during the meantime these fighters needs to be active and i do not think there will be mandatory defense during pandemic and hence they can choose anyone they want just to be active and entertain his fans.

people doesnt like mayweather even with his achievement in boxing because of maybe his attitude other than his boxing style. he failed in terms of entertainment because he doesnt fight toe-to-toe, remember his running style? he is too technical inside the boxing ring and counting points, whereas, most boxing fans want an aggressive style of boxing. and that maybe the reason why he was hardly hit because he was always running.


this pandemic brought a lot of changes in sports. and boxing is not excluded from it. and this is why we are seeing a lot of "exhibition" fights just to cater the boxing community.

This is the biggest fight of his career and he is also favorites to win the fight, so good for him.
Promoters are offering both $100 million each just for this fight, there's no better than this and it's once in a lifetime opportunity for both fighters.

update from AJ,.

LATEST Anthony Joshua speaks out and appears to give update on Tyson Fury fight after ‘positive meeting’ (https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/838939/anthony-joshua-update-tyson-fury-positive/)
https://i.imgur.com/OGVHA0t.png

Hopefully they can finalized it soon so people so people will stop speculate if this fight will happen or not.

Man, this is not the same time as it used to be ... the days of hardcore fighting are in the past. The world was too small, its borders did not go beyond the TV and arena. Now the world is much bigger and more complex than before, and paid online streaming is bringing in more money than before. Therefore, over the past decade, all boxers have been defending their titles by gaining points ... I guess I'll watch movies about Rocky today.

That's it, its way past what you want in sports now not excluding boxing. The fans needs to be impressed for sure but, it doesn't end with impressing the fans but winning with what ever tricks you've got within the context of the rules.

Both fighters are entertaining, especially Fury of course, so I would expect that the fans will be entertain in this fight.
This is the biggest of their fight, winner here will be the best in the heavyweight so they are surely conditioning themselves more than they do in their previous fight. As per betting odds, Fury is the favorites but that doesn't mean he will win, who knows, AJ would give him his first loss.

You said it perfectly, Sport psychology is more important and you need to get guidance from a sports psychologist and if Tyson Fury did that during his career he would have continued boxing without taking a break because of depression. I saw his speech about how he went into depression when all his goals were met when he defeated Wladimir Klitschko he had nothing else to accomplish and that was his ultimate goal in life and he went into depression after that.

So this is not only about losing, even if a boxer will win he can also feel depress? I never know that but I'm glad it's been shared. So probably the depression Wilder has been going through is more serious since this is coming from a big loss in their rematch and it might take time before he can accept which is the only way for him to recover from that depression.

Hell, looking at the history of boxing on wikipedia, namely the statistics of heavyweights, I noticed something in common between Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua. They almost at the same time won the fights against Klitschko, which, in fact, put a fat point in his career. I thought that Klitschko was an unsurpassed fighter of his time, although it is not surprising that I thought so, given that he held the title for a total of 12 years. .. all the same, age takes its toll.

Anthony Joshua had an impressive win on Klitschko compared to Fury as Joshua were able to knock Klitschko down which is a very good fighter, it's just sad that Klitschko was not anymore on his prime that time but still prove that Joshua is a high caliber kind of boxer.

Anyone can go into depression at any given moment. The pressure of an athlete or any celebrity is high as every move is scrutinized and talked about and when you are in the spotlight all the time you might start feeling the pressure and to overcome that they will start using drugs to ease up their nerves and then it will end up as an addiction which will destroy them. Tyson Fury came out and told his issues so that if anyone is going through the same issues his experience could help them recover from these depressions.

Yeah that's correct, I guess it's Fury first who fought Klitschko, Fury won then next is Joshua vs Klitschko, Joshua won.

Anyway, let's focus on the fight, it's Joshua vs Fury now and these are the best big man currently and they will surely give us an exciting fight, probably better than the Fury vs Wilder as both does work hard to win, hopefully no excuses like Wilder's thing after the fight.

Fury's fight with Klitschko, by the way, has a rather interesting background. Tyson defeated former rival Klitschko's - Chisora but abandoned the fight with the Klitschkov in 2011 and  accepted him in 2015. This is pretty reasonable considering that the age difference among boxers is more than 12 years old. Not to mention the fact that it was a mandatory fight that neither Fury nor Klitschko could cancel. Yet life is not a movie (when 50-year-old Rocky defeats a young rival).

Why i do have the feeling that Joshua will be making out some excuses or reasoning just like on what Wilder did?  Lol.. Somehow, Joshua does have already some
loss against Ruiz and at least he do make out some positive words on it
https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/anthony-joshua-admits-the-truth-about-the-loss-to-andy-ruiz-jr-it-got-to-the-point-where-i-didnt-give-a-fk-about-the-sweet-science-i-was-just-coming-to-fight/

If he would lost to Tyson then i would presume he would be saying the same.

Right, Klitschko was no longer on his prime that time and it was like the passing of the torch. Because after that, Joshua took over the heavyweight division.

@milewilda - fighters always find a reason and excuse after they lost. But the thing with Joshua is that he was able to bounce back and win against Andy Ruiz in a rematch. We don't know though how he will take a lost against Fury because it is a domestic rivalry.

Yes, and that's why many athletes really succumb to their own success and became self-destruct just like what we witnessed of Wilder right now and evidently it is very serious, spewing allegations after allegations.

Anyways, the Joshua vs Fury will go down as one of the biggest Heavyweight fights we have. If not for Covid-19, I think it can break PPV numbers and live gate attendance, specially if it is going to be held in British soil.

What's the biggest PPV in the fight, was it Mayweather vs Pacman?

These are just predictions, we don't know yet how fans will treat this fight, IMO, it's a sure fight but I don't think it's popular enough to break the biggest PPV in boxing history. While the vaccine is already available, I guess with proper scheduling they can allow a gate entrance and this fight will generate a huge revenue from live audience.

What's good with Fury, he overcome his problem and move forward, look at him now, he continue his life
and he bring back what he achieved before.

With his guidance, he'll be basing everything from how he suffer, make a good example and extend a lifting hands  to provide hope.

It's been a while but that rematch that triggered wilders depressions needs to forget now,
wilder should move forward and keep himselves busy with something that will allow him
to move forward.

I don't want to conclude yet, let's just see what will happen in the fight, most of us maybe think that Fury will beat AJ but we never know what's gonna happen because even if AJ will be the underdog in this fight but the the fact that these have not fought yet, I would say it's hard to guess.

What if AJ wins, what would be Tyson's excuses then?

Yes, Mayweather vs Pacquiao still holds the record.

I'm saying for the Heavyweight division though, I think Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson or Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield holds the record for the division.

And again, this is all British fight, so I'm sure Brits are going to buy tickets to see the fight live or PPV. However, this pandemic really throws everything out of the window.

I don't know if this will break the heavyweight PPV record for most buys but with inflation it could probably generate more revenue. According to some rumors their combined purses could be over $100 million so they would have to sell a lot of PPV to make that money back. Without a doubt it will break the UK record even with a significant price increase from the typical PPV event.

For sure UK record will be broken here, as this is a domestic fight and both are really hot in UK with a lot of fans, so they are willing to pay regardless how much will be the PPV of this fight. I agree that it can generate more with the current inflation rate we have. $100 million for a purses like this one is just but fair and I'm sure that with this magnitude of a fight, they can make that money back very easy.

I would be impressed if they will break the record because the situation has not been kind, we are in pandemic, people struggles financially as our economy is affected and if it breaks the ATH for biggest record then these two must be so special and they need to have a rematch in order to make more money.

I remember I watched a video in YouTube about Tyson Fury and his story about depression. He gained significant amount of weight and he fell into depression after falling positive in cocaine.

Quoting Tyson Fury's own words back in 2016:

What people mostly take for granted is that depression is not a choice. It is a sickness that people should be medically and psychologically treated. Depression is not also equated for being sad, it is just you feel like you are alone and worthless in the world. I really commend Tyson for fighting what he went through. I hope that people who has depression seek medical treatment and enjoy your family life!

Fight comparison between Joshua and Tyson on Klitschko has no bearing anymore on their coming fights because both fighters have improved over the years, this is the fight all fight fans have been waiting for and whoever wins here will take all the belts including the lineal championship, and will put him as the best heavyweight of the current generation.

No, he would not be like Wilder, even if Joshua will loss against Fury, he will be so happy as he makes a $100 million purse which is the biggest in his career as a boxer. Fury is the favorite to win the fight but Joshua can sure give Fury a hard time and could beat Fury, and I believe these two guys are professional enough to do a rematch or trilogy if necessary, no crying like what Wilder did. ;D

Still surprised Anthony Joshua was defeated in the last Match nobody expected it.

Anthony Joshua is not undefeated, so I don't think we should expect that he is unbeatable. Look at Usyk, he has an undefeated record and he showed his great boxing skills, I beleive if AJ would ask for a rematch, this would be not like the Ruiz vs AJ II, just my opinion because Usyk clearly dominates that fight.

I am not interested in a fight between Joshua and Fury because I see Usyk the same type of fighter as Fury but without the physical advantages and I think Fury would beat him in a similar way that Usyk beat Joshua. I think the real fight now is Usyk vs Fury because it is 2 boxers which have similar strengths and are not known for their knockout power. That is if Fury beats Wilder which who knows because Wilder only has to land one big punch and he can knockout any one in the division. I think Wilder vs Joshua would be fun because Joshua is not the best technically and Wilder has no skill technically but they are both big punchers.