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Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2882335

Reference Link:
https://adkinsbet.com/sportsbook

Amount Scammed: 0.44003 BTC

Payment Method: Bitcoins

Proof of Payment:
https://imgur.com/4xkfIWA
https://imgur.com/jtXx192

What happened:

Dec 8th
Deposited 50 mBTC.

Dec 9th
Deposited 80 mBTC.

Dec 10th
Withdrew 15 mBTC.

Dec 11th
Withdrew 30 mBTC

https://imgur.com/a/psHxf1J

Dec 12th
Requested 45 mBTC withdrawal.

https://imgur.com/a/dx3BMpD

Dec 17th
I contacted them regarding my pending withdrawal.
They are telling me I need to fill in the details in my account profile. I did it.

https://imgur.com/EuPRcjt

Dec 19th
They told me they need to check the bets and transactions on the account and closed my account.

Dec 20th
They are telling me they found the issue with one of my bets. B607544431 saying it was graded as win and it should be lost.

They changed that bet from HT/FT 1/1 to HT/FT X/1
https://imgur.com/FG2D5jn
https://imgur.com/a/4eUyqbN

Game score:
https://azscore.com/football/game/real-xolotlan-bravos-primavera-2020-12-09

As a "sign of good will" they let me 80 mBTC that I deposited and voided every single bet after that one I won. Something feels wrong here.

Odds on home team to win were around 2.20 so that means 1/1 should be around 3.30-3.45 AND IT IS, and X/1 should be 5.50+.
So they changed my bet, but didn't change the odds on the bet slip!!!

They also declined my withdrawal from Dec 12th (W607768698).
On December 20th they put my balance to 80 mBTC when in fact it should stand at 367.21 mBTC.

Dec 28th
Withdrawal requested (20 mBTC).
Withdrawal declined saying I withdrew already 15 , 30 , 40 mBTC which is more than 80 mBTC they "gave me as a sign of good will" so they took 85 mBTC from my balance.
Balance on the account 2.08 mBTC.

https://imgur.com/08Wb3QW

Dec 30th
I deposited (50 mBTC) here because I had only 0.08 mBTC on my account when I should have 374.29 mBTC.

Jan 8th
My balance here according to them was 0.98 mBTC so I deposited again (80mBTC). My balance if they didn't cheat would be 375.19 mBTC.

https://imgur.com/tD1JPl5

Jan 12th
Requested withdrawal 60 mBTC.

https://imgur.com/XYYf5wO

It gets real interesting here. I was still logged in and two minutes after this bet I have noticed that there's another bet on the same outcome but with 61 mBTC stake. That was impossible since I had a withdrawal pending I did not place that bet. I contacted support (someone was online) and they explained to me that they declined my withdrawal because I didn't put in the same address as I did during previous withdrawals. Well, that is not true, because I requested the withdrawal to the SAME ADDRESS as I did previously.
The address WAS THE SAME. You can see it here
https://imgur.com/IVDbIAK

I also asked them what about that bet I didn't place and asked them to void it. They did after some time and told me they won't be able to do it in the future (this is really important now).

They voided the bet, I requested another withdrawal 60 mBTC to that same address.

Jan 13th
Now, after the bet B610486144 I had 67.82 mBTC on my account. That match will be played on January 15th.
So, January 13th comes and I am sitting in my living room when I receive an email from adkinsbet that I have canceled my withdrawal and requested new ones and on the different BTC address so they declined those, and then they tell me I placed one bet for 67.82 mBTC on one match
Spanish cup, Girona - Cadiz over 1,5 goals in the first half on January 16th at 16:00 CET

https://imgur.com/HrAdmYy

As soon as I saw that I ran to my computer and contacted support. I told them it wasn't me who cancelled the withdrawal, requested new ones or placed that bet. At that moment it didn't cross my mind that they would do something like that. It was all clear when they told me that they can't void that bet because I placed it and they already voided one bet per my request (the first "phantom bet") and can't void this one even though it was 4 days away (because of their license provider). The first one they voided was in-play bet and the score in that one was already going in my favor.

I asked them a few times just to cancel that bet and let me withdraw my balance. They declined stating I am responsible for my account because my first thought was that someone cracked my password but that was not the case.

It all became very clear when another user posted accusation thread where he also had the same problem with bets not placed by him.

https://imgur.com/XT16GuE


All the notes in the spreadsheet are written here in this post.
All the transactions (except for those phantom bets and declined withdrawals on January 13th)on the account are written in the spreadsheet.

Those bets and transactions are visible in other screenshots in this post.

TL;dr
Adkins changed my bet from won to lost.
Took my balance and placed bets themselves.
Stole 0.44003 BTC from me.

Customer screenshot is incorrect. Has been edited. Players are responsible for their own bets.
If you are 100% sure we changed your bet, why would you then deposit again on our site after that?

Ray

Quoting for reference.

@Adzivu, once you come online then make a post.

So you equally saying all the accusations topics about Adkinsbet created in this boards are all lies and screenshots are incorrect?
All have similar issue of voiding bets and unaware bets placed on their respective dashboards with other issues.

SCAM!!! AdkinsBet scammed me for amount of 196 mBTC in completely blatant way (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309454.0)
adkinsbet.com scam 0.555 BTC! help! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308700.0)
Adkinsbet .com scam 210mBTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309754.0)
Adkinsbet.com PURE SCAM! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308729.0)

Numerous of complaints everywhere, you gotta fix your website or rather the red tag remains forever.

It's terrible it turns out that Adkinsbet now has many accusations and bets that have been canceled, almost every problem keeps coming but doesn't solve it. Is this one-sided in canceling it?

Redtrust looks like it will not disappear if you see like that it is difficult to believe again the trust in adkinsbet gambling, seeing the amount that cannot be returned is a large amount.

Specifically, do you have these support messages in writing? There's no reason to decline the withdrawal in this case and it brings doubt to the forefront of AdkinsBet's claim.

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By the way... the number of scam accusations don't matter, guys: it's what you discover within the content.

If I make twenty scam accusations about a site with Newbie accounts, that shouldn't sway your opinion unless the evidence provided was substantial enough. The previous threads, however, do exhibit a lot of AdkinsBet's problems.

Check their trust site and you know why.

I deposited again because I was dumb to trust you.

Here are some matches with similar odds.
You are saying my screenshot is edited. It's not.
You edited the bet.

How is it possible to have odds 3,40 on a HT/FT outcome of X/1 when the industry standard is 5,00+ on that outcome, and at the same time on 1/1 odds are just around the ones I placed the bet on 1/1?
Those are just a few games from the past, and few future games with those odds. Anyone with a few working brain cells can see that a team that has odds 2,20ish to win has the same odds on 1/1 as the game I placed my bet on.

https://imgur.com/VJJpIPq
https://imgur.com/cEgVCkx

https://imgur.com/PD0XZm6
https://imgur.com/wxUE50i

https://imgur.com/qbf6J16
https://imgur.com/2R6VJgf

https://imgur.com/NVycaKd
https://imgur.com/amxr8Lp

https://imgur.com/ZXRcZgu
https://imgur.com/boaF9MF

https://imgur.com/Tjz01r5
https://imgur.com/PPirHq1

https://imgur.com/EtfPdo2
https://imgur.com/mo3Jb85

Only thing logical here is that you didn't like that I was making profit and decided to "find a mistake" in the first bigger bet I won, and cancel all the other bets so you don't have to pay.
By reading this forum I came to the conclusion that I am not the only one you did that to.

https://imgur.com/YSN6LuU
@actmyname, here's them saying to me why they rejected that 60 mBTC withdrawal and where they voided that bet. I don't mind them voiding it because I asked them to do it.

Here is the chat log from that day they canceled my withdrawals, made me think I had a security breach, and placed that bet for 67,82 mBTC on that ridiculous Spanish cup game.
Notice how they advised me to place 194 mBTC bet on the opposite outcome?
Isn't that "arbitrage betting" and they are advising me to do it? If I read correctly they told the same thing to one other user here on the forum.
I obviously declined to do that. Why would I deposit another 194 mBTC on the site that already declined to let me withdraw my funds?

https://imgur.com/1RLr0QQ
https://imgur.com/cCUaEpv
https://imgur.com/g7k7J4Y

Poland - Tunisia bet was the last bet I MADE on my account before they placed the rest of my funds (that I requested a withdrawal for) on that Spanish cup game.
That's why I mentioned it in the chat, if I wanted to place all my balance on something it would be that game, and not the one they chose.

You did the same mistake again by depositing on that platform for second time. After facing issues with your first bet how did you get confidence to make another. Already there is active accusations against this platform and you can easily get information about that by visiting the trust page of Adkinsbet forum profile. You will also get open flag there.

Don’t forget to support flag and keep other gamblers away from them.

Hello Ray, can you sign a wallet like Cloudbet and others have done in the past? It would be good for all users reading the scam allegations to know Adkinsbet had funds and would not selective scam its users.

They are ignorant to all those requests.

Please elaborate on this a little bit more. Did you ask Adkinsbet to sign a wallet to prove they solvent and therefore the chances of them selective scamming users would be minimal?

I thought I would at post the images that you posted links to. This makes it a lot easier for others to see the images.

Maybe at some point Ray will sign an address to prove to everybody that Adkinsbet is solvent and has no need to selectively scam users.

Did you create a flag against them? You should do that right now so that other users are warned.

Its disgusting what bs this site is pulling.

I don't know what to make of this case exactly, but I do know that this is the worst excuse I've ever heard from a casino for delaying a withdrawal:

https://i.imgur.com/tElP7C3.png

They payments team declined the withdrawal because "they're updating the blockchain today"?

Don't "they" update the blockchain every day, roughly once every ten minutes? This seems like an excuse churned out by someone who knows next to nothing about bitcoin.

Your argument has nothing to do with the initial reason why he opened the topic here. He claimed that Adkinsbet have placed bets for him. The fact that they wrote him to extend the delay for 1 day more, has nothing to do with this. So do not try to find irrelevant things that are from a completely other subject.
Maybe you miss it all, but this user wrote that Adkinsbet paid him already multiple times. Bookmakers who want to scam customers, should not pay out at all.
It is getting more and more obvious that all DT members choosing sides from the "victims" because they do not want their empire to fall down.

Instead of taking this route it would have been more effective to come up with an explanation for what customer support meant by saying they were "updating the blockchain."

If you'll notice, I haven't actually taken one position on this particular issue or another, but what I do know is I wouldn't play at a casino that uses "updating the blockchain" as an excuse to withdraw delays.

Sorry to see the loss of funds , but you did the right thing by exposing another bookie. Does anybody know what can be done , apart from a flag on their profile to get these bookies BANNED FOREVER from these forums? There is a growing number of bookies here that are voiding bets, changing bets , changing TOS etc to scam the people and it cannot continue to be advertised here.


Any advice would be appreciated.

I laughed at "updating the blockchain".

They just don't want to resolve the issue because they are saying I placed that bet (Girona- Cadiz), and I saw the same thing happened to another user so I don't think it's a coincidence what they are doing.

The fact that they changed the bets is also alarming. How did they (as they say) wrongly graded exactly that bet that I made big profit on, and not some other bet?
They just don't want to pay out winning players and are using same tactics as other known scamming bookies.

Paying out once or 2-3 times and then saying why would they do that and scam someone later is bullshit. That's exactly what they would do.

I hope you do not get scammed by any of these scam websites such as Adkinsbet, they seem to announce they are open for business then have purchased sock-puppet accounts and paid shills pumping their thread trying to show them as being something brilliant when they are completely the opposite. Trash.



Think about it, Adkinsbet have run out of excuses to justify their scamming so now updating blockchains is a new buzz word for them.

The Adkinsbet representative Ray has not responded to my request he sign an address to prove Adkinsbet have funds and are solvent because Cloudbet and others have done it when scam accusations were levelled against them.

None of the paid shills or sock-puppets have asked Ray/Adkinsbet to sign an address either but that is no surprise  ::)

They left the forum because of the attack on them as they say.

It's just an excuse to leave without any consequences.

So pathetic

One less scam to worry about

There should be some big warning sign for all forum users once there is a slightest chance that bookie is a scam

They left because they know we are right. Keep on trolling.

Obviously no answer from them.

They say they are left the forum but that's not the case.

Since they closed their ann topic they could answer to all the accusation topics but they are not doing that.

Still nothing new here.

You will not be able to get any updates from them, they are proven scammers and trolls. Sadly the next best thing you can do it try to disrupt their domain by reporting them to their domain registrar - that just might get their attention and hopefully they will settle all claims against them in the hope of having their domain restored.

I'm not sure that would help.  I don't think AdkinsBet will end with AdkinsBet.  In this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316904.msg56393542#msg56393542) Nutildah shows evidence that AdkinsBet and Malubit are very likely run by the same scammer.

There's also this account that seems to be the same person; Mark_Pitibet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282208.msg55384641#msg55384641), who posted the Ann thread to pitbet.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282208.msg55384641#msg55384641).  Although it appears that the website never worked, lol.

I suspect this scammer is bouncing from one URL to another.  Obviously he has multiple accounts, why not multiple URLs?

There are only so many accounts that people can buy to shill for casinos. Eventually, all you'll have is the initial launch campaign to spur growth.

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At the end of the day, nothing will change if people choose to blindly trust sites that have operated for x amount of time - scams happen in crypto and as far the forum is concerned, it's nothing to concern oneself with.

When we finally get that welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0) or a redirect landing page, that will mitigate some scam potential - DefaultTrust users are only useful after victims present accusations (or, they'll have to spend a lot of time looking deeply into new sites as they come).

Emphasis mine.

I hope you don't really believe that.  The trust system and the flag system are efforts meant to mitigate scam opportunities.  The community does a good job finding some before they can victimize people, and attempts to reduce opportunities for those that do.

Sure, there are many "reviews" in the trust system that have nothing to do with trading, but that's not the only measure of someone's trustworthiness.


A welcome message would be helpful, if enough newbies actually take the time to read it.

Emphasis mine. Rule-wise. Administrative-wise.

I want you to think about why scams are apparently unmoderated on the forum - the reason that was given - and then try to imagine how that would apply when Newbies aren't given any welcome messages or warnings about all members (especially outside of the convoluted trust system). Might be a bit cynical but it's not hard to notice some glaring things that are missing.

How about this funny little board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=207.0), too?

As hard as it may be to picture me thinking, I have once or twice.  The unofficial (official) reason given is a bit sparse, I must admit:


But it actually makes perfect sense.  Bias is real, and humans are prone to it.  Mistakes are also possible, regardless of bias or any other ill intent.  Would a welcome message help?  Possibly, it couldn't hurt.  I may not be as optimistic about it's effectiveness as you are, however.

Another possible reason for the admins' neutral position could have something to do with this:


Which, in light of where we're having this discourse, also makes sense.

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Despite the absence of a welcome message, or lack of moderation, the forum is not to blame for scams.  No one is to blame for scams other than the scammer, but the other thing that's needed for a scam to work is a victim.  That's the unfortunate reality.  Some of us are just stubborn, and need to learn things the hard way.  Scammers are nearly impossible to prevent, and victims only slightly less difficult.

Just a day or so ago someone claimed to be scammed by a tagged and flagged AWS account scammer.  That means they clicked on the scammers thread, ignored the big red banner across the top of the page, ignored the little red negative numbers next to the scammers name, and contacted said scammer anyway.  Even if there was a welcome message explaining how all this stuff works, it'll only work if it's not ignored.

Where are all those justice advocates from Adkinsbet?

AdkinsBET's trolls only care to advocate justice when other sportsbooks are implicated.  They only want to besmirch the names of legitimate sportsbooks so that theirs doesn't stand out as an obvious scam.  Not only is it not helping, it's actually causing further harm to the AdkinsBET brand.  If the troll behind all those accounts had a single functioning braincell he would have recognized that already.

well, they aren't stopping it seems that they are targeting sportsbet.io at the moment not sure what sportsbet.io did to adkinsbet but it seems that they are desperately trying to stain sportsbet.io's reputation. they are now even necrobumping dead thread that has something to do with sportsbet. I feel bad about them their platform was starting to take off but decided they wanted to scam people what a waste of money-making opportunity.

With a flag and several negative tags, it's only up from here. Hard to damage something that's been broken.

How is it possible that they are allowed to have another thread that is "lead by someone else" but everyone knows it's the same guy/group of people?

All the users that were defending them have changed their avatars and signatures so when some new guy comes to their thread they  will see "normal" users discussing that bookie.

because it is a free forum that can be used by anyone and scams/scammers aren't moderated. as far as the admins are concerned it is the community's responsibility to let other people know about scams and it is also the people's responsibility to search for what they want to try. the internet is full of scams and scammers you can't expect the admin to shield every people from it. they should learn how searching around before using a service or anything on the internet so they can avoid a potential scam. I know this is frustrating but there's really nothing we can do other than spread information.

those members are tagged and if ever a newbie got scammed by them I don't think it is anyone's fault but him/her. the forum has instructions and guides to let them know what feature the forum has and what it meant they should really read them before going around and try out services or make a transaction with anyone.

The forum (though moderated) is not moderated to the extent the owners censor scam threads. They do not check when scammers start using this forum to promote scam ICOs and scam websites.

Regarding their sock-puppet and fake accounts that will change avatars and signatures, they will always have red negative trust on their profiles therefore it will be difficult for them to fool the majority of their target audience but sadly as always a minority will end up being scammed no matter how much you try to protect them.

Unfortunately I found the thread only now. I have also opened an account with Adkinsbet. I lost some bets and made new deposits. I send my first withdrawal and received 300 Euro. After my next payout request they asked for verification. This took  few weeks but was successful.
But now I am waiting for my next withdrawal since weeks. I've 2.480 Euro on my account. There is no answer from support to my question. I think these money is lost...

I suggest for you to create a separate thread from this so you can get attention from the members and I also suggest for you to provide evidence so members can decide whether to believe you or not. they have a thread here and I would have suggested posting your issue there but it is full of shills that would most probably troll you(or maybe not) if you said anything bad about adkinsbet.

OK, thank you Acroman. I posted the same text in Adkinsbet Thread at Gambling forum. Someone deleted my posting for several times....

That's their tactic.  The thread is self-moderated by mikelsmith2020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1111151).  The mikelsmith2020 account is most likely owned and operated by AdkinsBET.   They only allow praise and adulation in that thread, most of which posted by their other alt accounts and almost certainly lies.

Create a new topic in the Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) board and use this format:


Provide as much detail, and be as thorough as you can without revealing any sensitive information.

Sorry to hear about your situation.

They are deleting all the posts that are not favoring them.

Well, I guess we won't be hearing from anyone shilling adkinsbet anymore.

Job well done you twats.

Are you sure? I wouldn't be surprised if they come up with some new website and domain (if they haven't already) and start all over again.

But I hope you are right and that they never return to the forum. The good thing is that the negative trust remains permanently recorded in their accounts.

Yeah, at least we have the list of the shills so they can't use those accounts anymore.

I hope mods will recognize that and ad a flag to all of the accounts.

I doubt they'd care what people think about their shill account. they blatantly use their shill accounts to spam other threads and make biased conversation against other gambling sites. and if they ever decided to create another thread with a different name of gambling site and use their shill accounts I'd assume they'd use the same tactic on their thread to silenced any people who say negative things on their website. I even got accused and a neg tag because one of their shills thinks I am getting paid and working for sportsbet.io

They will give a new try...

after Malubit and Adkinsbet I can hardly wait to see new name

Don't worry about it. Everyone here knows they're a bunch of losers who would sell their own mother for a few bucks if they could.
Everyone on the DT team should tag these accounts so that we can at least ruin them. They shouldn't be able to use them to start a new scam.