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How long until this happens?

This won't be possible in the foreseeable future. Don't be mistaken, I love Ethereum as well as I love Bitcoin but when it comes to Marketcap, Bitcoin is still miles ahead, not forgetting that it's market dominance is still high up there.

As of now, Bitcoin's Market cap is around $674,011,136,456 at $36K which means Ether would have to be worth $5,895 each in order to achieve that market cap at the current circulating supply of 114,321,183 ETH.

Ask yourself this, do you think Ether's price can rise by almost 500% while Bitcoin's price just remains stagnant at $36K?

This will happen when the sea totally dries out and when I finally get a chance to date Beyonce.

It is easy for centralized shitcoins to print billions of supply out of thin air and claim it to be "circulating" and since market cap is easily manipulated (supply * price) the shitcoin's market cap would shoot up to above bitcoin's real market cap and "overtakes" it.
So far ETH has been number 2 simply because it has fake circulating supply (a ginormous premine that is not in circulation), I wouldn't be surprised if they printed a lot more in their 2.0 scam.
Still nobody would give a crap though ;)

Agree with you. The marketcap of bitcoin is very bigger than marketcap of Ethereum.

The question could be: "Will Ethereum can flip bitcoin in the future to be the King in cryptocurrency?" It is a question, not marketcap (as Ethereum has huge supply). In 2018, when marketcap of Ethereum came closer to marketcap of bitcoin, people talked about flippening that did not happen.

Now the marketcap difference is big and Ethereum already rises a lot from its bottom and get its new all time high. 5 more times from the current all time high. Is it too much? I think it is but I will not surprise when Ethereum get a price x5 from now. Some DeFi tokens in 2020 have price more than $10k, $40k, so why not Ethereum.

But in fact I don't bet on it.

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Off-topic question: Do you guys remember the flippening of Ripple on Ethereum?
Ripple's 53% Surge Makes It the Second-Biggest Cryptocurrency (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-29/ripple-s-ris-is-poised-to-rain-on-ether-s-flippening-parade)

Despite this surge in activity, Ethereum is unlikely to be able to catch up with Bitcoin's records. All this is happening against the backdrop of the growth of bitcoin, its popularity is pushing and Ethereum to grow. Also, considering the recent December Ethereum update, the hype around the coin has increased significantly. Many experts predict Ethereum will rise to $3,000. But this coin will remain the queen of the market, always giving way to the main king.

Are you saying eth will flip btc market cap? its very unlikely this time many institutional investors are only eying for btc only not in eth Pooya is right that huge premine is very scary they will dump on every investors anytime as soon as they hit their target dump just like XRP who hired a market maker to pump the price and dump billions of it.   

The answer is quite simple and that is when bitcoin holder will shift their interest to ethereum but this scenario will be impossible to happen since  many bitcoin is so strong right now with many adoption acquired recently  and many are still having an interest to put some money on this option so its no surprise that other alts will struggle to defeat the dominace of bitcoin right now. But if you are an ETH supporter you shouldn't worry about this since if bitcoin will be healthy for more years it means ethereum and other alts are still in good shape to.

I must admit that I didn't know about hidden ETH premine that is not part of circulation. Up until now I thought that 72 million ETH was premined (12 million for the team and 60 for investors) and that those are included in the current ~114 million circulating supply.

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Regarding the question about ETH overtaking BTC, chances for that happening are slim to none. But as some others pointed out, marketcap metric is overrated and easily manipulated, therefore it shouldn't be taken too seriously. Unfortunately at the moment it is as people are often investing based on that, looking for coins with higher mcap without checking it thoroughly.

Ranking using market capacity is misleading and meaningless. It is an inaccurate measure of demand, which may not seem real, but if we take it as a measure of demand, the indicator in the long term may mean an increase in demand for a currency.

With the current levels of confidence, it is difficult for the altcoins to exceed the capacity of Bitcoin in the medium term because it needs a lot of demand and a lack of supply, which may make sense for a short period and not for long periods.

Cryptocurrency gurus will likely agree on a couple of things when looking at recent price performance and market cap differences between the two assets. The first point they agree on is that bitcoin is the biggest player in the crypto sphere. In terms of overall market capitalization, bitcoin is dominating the field by a wide margin. The second point they agree on is that as bitcoin value rises, so too does the number of altcoins in circulation, leading to more coins being pumped and dumped.

Taking these two points into account, it is hard to imagine a scenario for any altcoin asset to take the lead in terms of market capitalization.

Will Never , There are tons of Coins now that has the same structure like Ethereum and the chance of ETH being replaced is always in attempt .

While even how many coins are comparable to BTC yet the stablished position of being the most trusted and Originality is the weapon why Bitcoin remains on top and will remain forever ( in our generation or even the next)

But of course this market is unpredictable , we can't foreseen what will happen but at least we can speculate and that's my speculation.

It could be, but with 1 condition, all 90-95% altcoins must be deleted or delisted from any of exchange site first, so people will focus buying and hold ETH as the second of biggest crypto.

what you are saying is the impossible lol...
Ethereum will continue to be behind Bitcoin and will never go beyond that. though there are so many who transact using Ethereum even the gas fee is high, that will not make Ethereum a chance to surpass Bitcoin. *Bitcoin forever king

There was a time back in 2016 when everyone thought that the price of ETH will overtake BTCitcoin as well as the leader of marketcap consider the amount of coins in circulation, but then the price of BTCitcoin started to move higher and once the rally started the difference was inevitable.
It is hard to predict what the future holds and how far the price of ETH will move, to be frank i do not care and wont be surprised if the marketcap difference diminish to a certain level .

never, maybe not only you that hope if ethereum will be a leader in this industry my friend
but the fact bitcoin stay strong and i'm sure there will be no altcoins can replace bitcoin as the king of cryptocurrency now or later

Etheruem will not over take bitcoin even if the ICO eras that were suppose to help etheruem platform enlargement that turned out to be majorly scam were to be successful. Etheruem no doubt is growing in domination but I think it can't be compared to bitcoin. Bitcoin is more than 50% of market dominance while etheruem is far below around 15% if I'm not wrong.


Lol buddy that is a married woman. Your thoughts can't come to reality even with an action.
Meanwhile, I hope Jigga is not in here. :o

I do not think that ethereum will overtake bitcoin's market cap but in few months btc will grow insanely and then eth will follow so im sure both will become very expensive but will be retaining their market share more or less.

Well, nothing is impossible here on crypto world but talking about this possibility then it would really be on near-impossible chance to happen.

Lets say bitcoin can really be replaced anytime soon into its peak spot but it would really be taking or need to get those whom support it mainly since this is the father of all
cryptos and altcoins would really be just an alternative no matter what.

OVertaking bitcoin marketcap is nearly an impossible thing unless if people will switch up to ETH in full scale specially on other alts supporters then it might be
but we know that this would be impossible.

no one knows about that dude. Ethereum needs at least 5x increase to be able to surpass the bitcoin marketcap. That being said that if ethereum is quite impossible to make happen. This time bitcoin is facing another drop again.
Just hope bitcoin will go to the bottom and ethereum can still sustain its position.
I know that's impossible to happen.

true, we will not know and unpredictable but if we ask whether it is possible, it could happen and nothing is impossible. but I agree with the colleagues above that we also have to be realistic looking at the fact, that it is true that the market cap of bitcoin is very hig, with common sense and analysis may be difficult for ethereum to replace.

at this time it is true that bitcoin has decreased and we really hope that this year is the year altcoin,  does not result in ethereum being eroded by the state of bitcoin.
Looking at ethereum at this time I see that ethereum is showing its strength and can still keep up with bitcoin movements with a still good price. hopefully it will be maintained so that all altcoins also remain stable.

This is not possible at current cycle conditions.  Though the volatility at the end of 2020 is huge.  The total supply of ETH is nearly 7 times that of bitcoin.  In contrast, bitcoin's value hit a staggering 26 times the value of ETH.  Looking back, in 2017 the Bitcoin and ETH gap was 14 times. This gap is getting bigger.  This proves, bitcoin is irreplaceable.  And thus, an impossible task for ETH.

are you kidding mate ?
because i don't really understand why ask this question, because ethereum will never evertake the bitcoin marketcap buddy

No way that ever happens. Stop writing such posts guys! BTC was the first and it will always be. BTW, since the dominance is more than 60%, this is far away from happening.

Looks like it will take a lot of time or it does not have a chance to happen at all. Looks like it will be USDTs Tether out of the blue printing will be the one to surpass it compare to Ethereum, if it increases it's circulation to a trillion or more then that's the one can beat Bitcoin in market cap but that isn't a healthy one to be honest.

The difference is in the way they are adopted. Bitcoin is individuals using & holding BTC, Ethereum adoption is about companies building DApps into the ecosystem, which is currently limited by the scaling etc of Ethereum. In order for Ethereum to get a higher market cap than Bitcoin it first has to fix the scalability issues it keeps hitting & the changing fees. Without that, companies will turn to alternatives or create their own code-base forks of the protocol to just run their services.

ETH can not overtake BTC cap cause Bitcoin was the coin that introduced cryptocurrency to the world and it will be hard for any other crypto to defeat Bitcoin. Besides, the reason behind the creation of Bitcoin is different from ETH and the last I checked BTC was said to be "electronic cash without the burdens of going through a financial institution" while ETH was "created as a cryptocurrency which will also help in the creation of new crypto."

This was the ETH team statement but the research I did when I join the cryptocurrency scheme before I choose ETH one of my favorite shows that there was a misconception in the community about an additional 12 Million pre-mined coins which was actually 12 Million coins that belong to the DEV. You know? news spreads fast and only a few people will do deep research about what really happens.

This question is not relevant with the reality that happened in the market. he can visit CMC and try to see whether ethereum has a chance to get more domination from bitcoin while so many major investors started to get into the bitcoin.
it will never happen. Talking about that when the domination of ethereum is very small is totally non sense thing.

Ethereum won't be a doubt until recently for its holders. If you look at the movement of Ethereum it will be difficult to read this year. we need to be part of the growth in the Ethereum market. possibly exceeding its ATH. because although the current increase looks significant, but the ATH line has not been seen. but don't hesitate, I'm sure Ethereum won't disappoint you.

Exactly. Right now, it looks impossible for Ethereum to overtake Bitcoin's market cap. The discrepancy between both crypto assets' market cap is huge. As it's been said many times, Ethereum won't be able to overcome Bitcoin because the latter has first-mover advantage. Bitcoin is the "King of Crypto" with a solid foundation built upon it. Ethereum may be good, but it's not as good as Bitcoin is. The pioneer cryptocurrency is the most decentralized cryptocurrency in the world with unique store of value properties. Ethereum, on the other hand, is much more vulnerable than Bitcoin towards external attacks, and it's terrible as a store of value (it has an inflationary model with no hard cap in supply). Before you know it, Bitcoin will rise towards new ATHs, leaving ETH in the dust.

Nonetheless, ETH overcoming BTC is only a dream. If it does come true, expect all of the attention to go towards ETH instead of BTC. By then, Bitcoin will lose its status as the reserve cryptocurrency of the market. Ethereum will take its place becoming the new "King of Crypto". The odds of this happening are very slim. One thing that I've learned throughout all of my years in crypto is that the industry is widely unpredictable. Anything can happen in this strange and bizarre world of crypto. In the meantime, let's focus on ETH's utility rather than speculating what its price will be in the future. Just my thoughts ;D

In my opinion there will never be an Ethereum overtake the Bitcoin market cap, because Bitcoin has always dominated the market. After all,
Ethereum's movements always follow Bitcoin, so it's impossible for Ethereum to surpass the Bitcoin market cap. This is indeed a reality that
must be accepted for Ethereum supporters, because Ethereum will always be below Bitcoin, until whenever Bitcoin will always be the best.

There must be something wrong if that happens.  ;D
Looking at graphs of both Bitcoin and Ethereum, it is more likely that ETH is growing strong thanks to Bitcoin.
Now, if suddenly it goes sideways like how you imagine it then it could cause a lot of problems.
Trust in cryptocurrencies.
Faith. Then the market might fall because of that.
I think of Bitcoin as the root of everything, take out the root and you won't have any fruits.

Agree with your point of view, as we all see that here bitcoin is the basis for us to start accessing and using things in this market. And as the demand grows, its value will still increase, the remaining alt in this market, in my opinion, is created and served for the purpose of acquiring bitcoin.

It is a challenge for Ethereum but I don't say it is impossible. ETH/BTC price as percent (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311772.msg56168529#msg56168529) shows it is possible for Ethereum.

Bitcoin marketcap: $592,314,286,374
Ethereum marketcap: $140,463,256,835

Ethereum need a x4.2 rise from its price today and bitcoin stays at today price to touch bitcoin marketcap. From 3.85% to 15% is x3.9 that is close to x4.2. I don't check but I think Ethereum has bigger and faster supply issuing rate than bitcoin.

correct prediction friends, as friend have explained that it is not upside down where the price of ethereum rises and bitcoin goes up but the truth is, what happens with bitcoin, ethereum usually will follow, like kings and queens just like.
So how can the market cap go through to get close it seems like it is impossible for ethereum to do it. even though people say in crypto it can happen, if it does happen usually crypto might be finished.

I don't know why some people keep asking this question, it is the market that is going to decide if Ethereum Marketcap would flip that of Bitcoin, for me I think Ethereum is even in danger of being flip than Ethereum flipping Bitcoin, a project like Polkadot has potential of flipping Ethereum this bull market IMO

is actually a fair question and see the enthusiasm of all about that possibility, which I think is hard to realize however much ethereum wants to do. because we clearly know when bitcoin increases or decreases, we can be sure that ethereum also experiences it, so it will not be possible, because the price difference continues.

Likewise as you said about the polka dots that will likely try to overthrow ethereum. As long as ethereum's performance is still good and doesn't deviate, it will be difficult for any altcoin to replace or even shift it. the problem of high gas fees alone is that everyone still cannot avoid continuing to use ethereum, even though some have tried to find other alternatives.
polkadot is no different when XRP is also reported like that, so it's no wonder everyone can assume that in the future there will be a determination.

If anyone hopes that the Ethereum market cap will surpass the Bitcoin market cap like that you will be disappointed. Because this will never happen,
if we look at the market cap comparison the two are very much different. Bitcoin has never even been defeated by any coins, even though many coins
have better technology than Bitcoin. But until now Bitcoin has always dominated the market. Because of that Ethereum will not be able to beat Bitcoin
at any time.

Bitcoin has ever defeated by ethereum in the past and if you are not an old crypto adopter and you will not see that. This time bitcoin is much more superior consider from its domination.
It's an impossible thing for ethereum to replace bitcoin while bitcoin is still  dominating everything.

You are very confident, but in a few years Bitcoin's dominance may not be that great. At the moment, the majority of projects that appear on the market are on the Ethereum platform. If the implementation of Ethereum 2.0 will be successful and it significantly reduces the fee costs, then in a few years ETH may replace the BTC as the leader.

I wonder why some people can ask this, it is true that the currently etherem is in a positive trend where recently ETH created its new ATH, really a very extraordinary achievement, but if ETH will outperform the bitcoin marketcap it is very unlikely, I think  this am just a joke that was deliberately made to make the situation worse, I dare to speculate that BTC will always be the no.1 in the cryptocurrency,

Ethereum has little chance of overtaking bitcoin.

I dont think will be disappointed because lots of crypto investors like me very much optimised about Ethereum . Once ethereum 2.0 completely launches then there will be huge changes will come . I believe ethereum more than bitcoin because of its usecase more than 90% dApps are cereated on ethereum smart contract .

It is very evident that the majority of new projects in the cryptocurrency market are based on the Ethereum platform. This has a very negative impact on the amount of transaction fees. Ethereum will only have a chance to catch up with Bitcoin if the Ethereum 2.0 implementation is successful and fees are reduced. Only then will ETH have a chance to beat BTC.

Bitcoin means huge for this field, ETH has the function to do that.  But can it it will be out a other time after that.  bitcoin is like the father here.  That proves to be greatest if not with respect to the maturity and success of this crypto world.  ETH has been well-compatible lately.

Indeed, you are right, because today many projects are very successful and they use erc20, including DeFi, around which there was a great excitement not only in 2020, but will also have great prospects in 2021. And I wouldn't worry about commissions, because they won't be more commissions on the Bitcoin network.

Of course many people want to see ethereum overtake bitcoin in the crypto market but it won't happen any time soon because currently there are even higher interest in bitcoin so that the price of bitcoin has risen so high that it even surpasses the price in 2017 all will happen in the crypto world, I still believe Ethereum will one day become the king of all coins but it takes a long time but it all takes a long time

This is what makes the situation change. Initially, Bitcoin was supposed to be a means of payment, but due to its low practicality, it turned into only a value carrier - such as gold or diamonds. Ethereum, on the other hand, turns into a practical cryptocurrency that is used by almost everyone in the crypto-world. If Ethereum 2.0 is successful and the transaction fee decreases, the way to beat BTC will be open for ETH. But if this happens at all, it will definitely need a minimum of 2-3 years.

Currently, I am also positive about the future of Ethereum, but should we expect the time when Ethereum will take a leading position in the cryptocurrency market in order to realize their investments. It really takes a lot of time to do this, and I suppose you don't need to get stuck on achieving this goal.

I think this am just a joke, those of you who thinks that Etherem will outperform the Bitcoin market cap should be prepared to be disappointed, it is true that currently ETH's popularity is very high, but doesn, 't forget that altcoins are very dependent on BTC, if Bitcoin decreases by a high percentage, it can be sure altcoins will perish and will be destroyed in the crypto market ,,,

Bitcoin is a strong currency, it has the support of the strongest investors. It will be very difficult to get BTC off the leader's pedestal, even for such a promising project as Ethereum. Moreover, we do not know how long it will take for the Ethereum developers to bring the network into full operation.

Ethereum will never ever try to take the bitcoin's marketcap. there's a very big gap between bitcoin's marketcap compared with ethereum's marketcap. Ethereum needs to get a lot of increases and it should be more than 5x to make it able to surpass bitcoin. We should stop to talk something that will not even become a real thing.
Bitcoin can increase anytime and bitcoin has ability to be doubled when more institutional is coming to buy bitcoin.

It's still too much for Ethereum to overtake Bitcoin in any way. the comparison of price and trading volume between ethereum and bitcoin is vast. currently ethereum can only be under bitcoin and the position is worthy of ethereum because it is in rank 2 coinmarketcap

You really do not need ethereum to be bigger, if you see bitcoin going higher that should basically tell you all you need to know about why bitcoin is big and why etheruem can't overtake it that easily. Let me explain it this way, bitcoin has about 600 billion dollars marketcap, meaning if it goes up just 10% that would be 60 billion dollar increase, whereas ethereum has 150 billion dollar marketcap, so it would take about 40% increase to match the same.

If bitcoin doubles its price that would be 1.2 trillion dollars in marketcap, by comparison ethereum needs to do nearly 10x for that (let's say 9x) to pass that. As you can see it is not about small increases versus big increases, it is about one staying the same while other does 4x instead in order to just catch up. There is no world where bitcoin stays exactly same or drops while ethereum makes 4x return.

I have been a cryptocurrency user for several years now and am also an ardent Ethereum fan. Of course, I also wondered if Ethereum could be the first to move BTC, but after a more detailed study of the market situation, I realized that there was no need for this. BTC is the first cryptocurrency from which other cryptocurrencies have already gone, including Ethereum. At the same time, Ethereum has completely different goals and objectives than BTC. Based on this alone, I concluded that there is no point in Ethereum being the first or overtaking BTC. Most likely Ethereum and other cryptocurrencies are needed both for the development of the entire crypto industry, as well as to support BTC itself.

ethereum seem to not be moving https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum
even defi coins like 1inch uni sushi are moving faster and more than ETH, perhaps its a competition

It's an impossible thing to happen dude. BTW ethereum needs more than only the hype to make it happen. Bitcoin is very rare right now and the price of bitcoin can increase anytime.
The institutional investors have been making there would be less real bitcoin on the market that can be bought by the people
Ethereum will never overtake bitcoin's marketcap. it will never happen.

Of course, we are used to the classic process of movement in the cryptocurrency market, when all cryptocurrencies repeat the movement of bitcoin, but recently, individual somersaults of Ethereum have become very noticeable. Ethereum has all the prerequisites to go up without looking back, because the growing popularity of the sphere of decentralized finance and the upgrade of the altcoin network to the second version are influential factors. In addition, a very important point is the future release of Ethereum futures, which will be in great demand among institutional investors.

I don't think its impossible because possible is coming out from impossible every thing can happen but its going to be very long time for this because bitcoin supply is fixed and ethereum can increased if but as ethereum price rising on other side bitcoin price is also going high so just because of this its possible but not in near future need some very long time may be we will not able to watch this all.

What has happened recently with the Ethereum price are just the consequences of the fact that the Bitcoin price previously grew very quickly by itself without waiting for altcoins and ETH now had to catch up very quickly. What is going to happen now interests me very much. I think Ethereum still has a lot of potential.

i'm not sure if ethereum will overtake bitcoin marketcap, because without bitcoin ethereum will be nothing even maybe this altcoin will never born mate
so, its never happend

No one can tell on when it would happen but basing off on history. ETH almost reached nor surpassed Bitcoin dominance in the market and that was on June 19,2017 on where

ETH dominance do able to rise up 31% while BTC is on 37% which is really already considered as a close gap and the next one being nearest was on Jan 29,2018 which it do able

to hit 33% versus 20% in dominance which is also near as we can say but now on the current market condition where that gap is nowhere to be found.Bitcoin is dominating

the market after all the years had passed.So its really hard to tell on when ETH will overtake Bitcoin in any angle.It might able to get close or go near but it wasnt successful
on surpassing it.

When viewed from the ethereum ecosystem and demand, I do think there is an opportunity to overtakes bitcoin from number 1,
but it should be noted that Bitcoin is not just a coin, but the core of the blockchain is Bitcoin, so the mother of all coins in the crypto world is bitcoin mate, Even though Ethereum has a perfect ratio of almost 100% I believe the chance to overtakes is only 1%.

The opportunity has always been there, but it needed to fix a lot of issues. Scalability will be the one ETH 2.0 directly takes over, but the real key for me is utility beyond gambling and defi apps (which are the same to a lot of people let's be honest). Dapps need to be much more diverse than what they currently are.

I think it is obvious that scalability is the biggest problem in the crypto world, for some reason that hasn't been solved for years now. I get that if we make it very fast, there is a danger of it being not so secure and safe, for example if you make bitcoin faster by doing some changes you are looking into a problem of double spending becoming easier as well, hence that is why we should always be looking into security over pace and cheapness.

However one thing is for sure, bitcoin is not that simple to change and ethereum is not that simple to change but they have to change if they want to become better, otherwise they are going to get stuck and poor people will get away from it. Crypto was a thing people who didn't make too much money in third world countries and with fee's becoming this high it became harder for them to use it as well, I know from personal experience.

The short answer is never, the long answer is never as well but here is why, bitcoin is the first ever cryptocurrency and that gives it an advantage but the main advantage of bitcoin over ethereum is that people trust in bitcoin, institutional investors are coming to bitcoin and investing in it because they see it as a safe haven against inflation, but they do not see ethereum with the same eyes and as long as that is the case ethereum has a 0% chance of ever surpassing bitcoin.

Bitcoin holds 68% of that total cryptocurrency market cap. Whereas for ETh it's just around 13% share. I don't see ETH not can even catch BTC's cap. To happen so, BTC must be trading flat and ETH to rise such that it will cross BTC's market cap which is impossible.

It will take an eternity- lol

Honestly, I believe ETH is a great coin, a great project with a great future but I don't think it will ever surpass the success of bitcoin as this market is mostly controlled by bitcoin.

look how big the market is, and how big also the dominant rate of bitcoin. https://coinmarketcap.com/

61.2% Dominant rate now, that's bitcoin => entire altcoins market.

The question is how. How can ethereum will overcome bitcoin's marketcap if the gap is too much between them? The gap is almost 800B usd and bitcoin' price is still going up and dominating the crypto industry in terms of marketcap. I don't think that ethereum will overtake bitcoin today or even in the future. But I am not saying that eth is not good enough to compete, it is really the best among altcoins.

I admit and believe that etherem is the best altcoin right now because its growth is very significant, and is everyone's investment choice, but if etherem chases bitcoin capitalization it feels like a joke, because there is no way ETH can compete with BTC whose value is so far from etherem,

In my opinion, there is no way Ethereum will catch up with the Bitcoin market cap. So that you can understand better,  please see for yourself
the data on the coinmarketcap site. It is very clear that the difference in the market cap between Bitcoin and Ethereum is very far away,
especially since Bitcoin will always be the strongest crypto. There is no hope for Ethereum to replace Bitcoin, that is a reality that must be accepted.
Although Ethereum is currently the king of altcoins, for cryptocurrency the king is Bitcoin.

It seems tough for Ethereum to overtake Bitcoin in any case. although both coins have their own fans, bitcoin is still far ahead of ethereum. and ethereum's position will not change under bitcoin, however but i think ethereum is a good coin as well as bitcoin.

for me, i don't think ethereum (ETH) can overtake bitcoin (BTC) in the marketcap, the gap between both of them are already too far, if we discussed about this in 2017, maybe i still think that it's highly possible, but for now, i don't think that ETH can reach the top and beat BTC in the near future, but still, we will not know until it's happening, so just wait for now, maybe the only way for ETH to overtake BTC is when they keep making a great project so that the price and the volume of ETH itself keep growing minute by minute.

Even in 2017 when it seemed possible, I always knew it would never happen until ETH decouples from Bitcoin (and it won't for a lot more years). It actually becomes more and more possible as time goes by though. Bitcoin will have been close to almost all mined in a few decades while ETH will have more and more supply with no cap. It'll happen, just only because it's logical. Unless BTC keeps going for $1 million that is!

NEVER, NEVER, NEVER...

Ethereum Will fall even before taking at least half of capitalization of Bitcoin.

Look how harsh this coin from transacting ? the fee is almost the same as High in bitcoin or some chance it is even higher?

if this will not be resolved ? then ETH will die low within this year.

101% agreed with you ETH is just an altcoin and no altcoin has potential to do this even in the mankind history. Who start that kind of topic he has very little knowledge about cryptocurrencies and don't what is BTC is real and what brings value to it.

as one of the top coins, eth is very important for every user. because most users use eth in every transaction that is made.

Exactly. It's impossible for Ethereum to overcome Bitcoin, considering that the latter dominates the whole crypto market. While technically-speaking ETH is superior than BTC, it lacks first-mover advantage. The father of Blockchain tech (BTC) cannot be replaced by any other project as it's the one that started it all. Compare Ethereum and Bitcoin's market cap and you'll notice there's a huge difference between them. As long as the crypto market depends on Bitcoin as a reserve currency, ETH won't be able to stand a chance against it. You might as well forget about ETH replacing BTC, and focus on which projects make crypto/Blockchain land a better place.

Nonetheless, Ethereum holds good promise to decentralize the web as we know it. The project has been a widespread success since its inception back in 2015. In just 6 years after launch, ETH has been able to become the world's second-largest cryptocurrency by market cap. It may have its flaws, but it's still the best smart contract platform in the world. I see ETH growing alongside BTC for many generations. As long as it remains decentralized, there should be nothing to worry about. Bitcoin is and will always be the #1 cryptocurrency in market cap no matter how far its competitors reach in the mainstream world. Just my thoughts ;D

The fact that crypto users use eth does not mean that eth has overtaken Bitcoin or will. And the transaction fee that eth currently has, users have to pay a lot of fees for each transaction, which is very expensive. Those who are interested in transactions with so many fees may be too rich.

Eth will never overtake the marketcap of Bitcoin, I think. Because the price of eth up and down still depends on the price of bitcoin ৷

If there is a huge investment coming into ETH and bitcoin is sitting dry then we might see the price rallying and in the cryptocurrency market you cannot make much sense for some of the rallies that are taking place and with that said i wont be surprised if there are huge investments coming in targeting the ETH market while neglecting the bitcoin market.

I agree, it is unlikely that ETH's market cap overtakes Bitcoin in the near future.
Bitcoin is still the king of the crypto market and all eyes are on Bitcoin, although ETH is the only altcoin behind Bitcoin, but ETH is also facing many serious problems.
Transaction fees, version 2.0 are the things that ETH needs to address before attempting to surpass BTC.

And knowing such when Ethereum will take over bitcoin's market cap is like impossible or should we say not really going to happen. Not all people uses ETH in their transactions.

Especially, for small transactions. The fees will just be replace the balance you're about to send and it will go to the miners instead of sending it to the person that you're dealing with.

Bitcoin market cap is far better than that of ethereum, so there market cap is incomparable .

Well, if an investment is big enough, any coin can surpass Bitcoin.
However, at present, there are not any projects attractive enough to attract such an investment. So I think Bitcoin's leading position will hold for a very long time.

When you are a part of old crypto adopters and then you would have seen ethereum surpassed bitcoin in terms of MCAP. The problem is bitcoin being considered as the digital gold and people are seeing as the best store of value. The big companies were making FOMO even greater than before. This must be the main problem why ethereum will never ever surpassed bitcoin mcap again.
Too much gap in MCAP between both.  ;D

Fees are a very urgent issue and need to be resolved but even if it is resolved, it is not enough to put pressure on bitcoin because bitcoin has held most of the market cap, the advancement of ethereum is a good thing for the market but sooner or later, part of the capitalization of this growth will move to bitcoin, ethereum is just a temporary stopover for the bigger things. We may not have the spirit to welcome a new king, a peaceful era is essential to growth, for bitcoin to lose its position, we are the ones to suffer more. 

Its possible in the future, Ethereum have so many opportunity to grow since its a platform for another project.
But to overtake marketcap it will take so long since the value of the bitcoin in the society is really high recently.

This will be hard to achieve for ETH, now there are a lot of contenders such as Binance Smart Contract, Elrond which required a negligible fee to process transactions in comparison with ETH that required a high gas fee of up to $50 for a transaction.

Yes, Bitcoin is the king of the market and it is difficult for Ethreum to overcome. And one of the conditions for ETH to surpass Bitcoin is that ETH needs to overcome all its disadvantages.

It is obvious that ethereum can't overtake bitcoin just based on this bull run. We have seen ethereum go up a lot, maybe even bigger than bitcoin, but the difference was so little that ethereum versus bitcoin pricing didn't move much during this past whole year. That is why I think it is not going to be a big problem, it should be something close maybe one day, but the best I can see is 50% of bitcoins price, that's all it can do.

Look at it even right now, it is at 20% price right now, nothing more. That is why I think it is not going to actually end up being that high ever, if 20% is what it can do during one of the biggest ever bull runs in history of crypto, how could it be increasing over bitcoin in any other time? As long as eth can manage to keep its second rank, that should be all it hopes for, it even had a fear of going under second if BNB kept going up a bit more.

I think we have to wait for another years to see ETH overtake BTC in the marketcap,
the gpa between those 2 coins are too far in 2021,
i think it might take about 5 years+ to see ETH can really overtake or compete against BTC in the marketcap.
Let's wait until it happen, and just hope that the price of ETH keep stable and doing great.

As i do believe also, though i am stilk a huge fan if Ethereum but i can't set aside the fact that there are also some other altcoins that has a good market standing in market today like Binance, Polkadots and LTC. Still the drawback that holds Ethereum goes down was its high gas fee also.
 
I may not also sure that Ethereum will overtake the bitcoin marketcup. But ket's just see it in future, i'd still believe in the project behind ethereum that they can improve it more.

Ethereum has a long way to go before it'll be able to replace Bitcoin in terms of market cap (if it ever does). The odds for ETH replacing BTC are very slim right now. Besides, Bitcoin is the reserve cryptocurrency of the market. With a market dominance well above 60%, I don't think Ethereum will defeat Bitcoin anytime soon. There are other important things to focus instead of trying to replace the "Father" of Blockchain technology.

All in all, I think that scaling the Ethereum blockchain should be the main focus of the community right now. The ETH 2.0 upgrade will definitely improve Ethereum's performance and cost-effectiveness. While prices may surge as a result of the PoS transition, ETH's market cap will be behind Bitcoin's for the foreseeable future. We could say that Bitcoin is the "King of Crypto" while Ethereum is the "King of Smart Contracts". Both coins will grow alongside each other for many generations. They can complement one another serving different purposes in life. People will eventually learn that it's not about replacing Bitcoin, but rather making the crypto/Blockchain world a better place. Just my thoughts ;D